October 22nd, 2010
12:13 PM ET

NOAA: Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

Changes such as a decrease in sea ice have consequences elsewhere, the report says.

The Arctic's warming trend is beginning to affect the climate farther south, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said this week in its annual Arctic Report Card.

"There is evidence that the effect of higher air temperatures in the lower Arctic atmosphere in fall is contributing to changes in the atmospheric circulation in both the Arctic and northern mid-latitudes," wrote the report's authors, a team of 69 international scientists.

Extreme cold and big snowfalls can be blamed on the Arctic changes, according to NOAA.

"Beyond affecting the humans and wildlife that call the area home, the Arctic's warmer temperatures and decreases in permafrost, snow cover, glaciers and sea ice also have wide-ranging consequences for the physical and biological systems in other parts of the world," NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco said.

Sea ice reaches its minimum in September every year. This year's September ice cover was the third-smallest recorded since microwave satellites started taking measurements in 1979, the authors wrote.

"The last four summers have experienced the four lowest minimums in the satellite record, and eight of the 10 lowest minimums have occurred during the last decade," the report card said.

The sea ice also appears to be much younger than two decades ago, as ice that survived from year to year has dwindled to a fraction of its former mass, the data showed.

Watch a NOAA video illustrating the changes

Greenland, the Arctic's great glacier-covered land mass, experienced record-setting high air temperatures, ice loss and glacier area loss, the report said.

"A combination of a warm and dry 2009-2010 winter and the very warm summer resulted in the highest melt rate since at least 1958 and an area and duration of ice sheet melting that was above any previous year on record since at least 1978," the authors wrote.

Furthermore, "a clear pattern of exceptional and record-setting warm air temperatures is evident at long-term meteorological stations around Greenland," they wrote.

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  1. Mano

    But gee, hasn't the earth been warming up since the last ice age? Who's to say this isn't the natural peak before the earth starts cooling to the next ice age? Or would that concept interior their paycheck and "green" stock prices? Answers? I'd like to see real facts, not Eco-religious beliefs, please.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nofoldems

      But gee... wonder if the real facts will ever change your mind

      October 22, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • GW

      You are right Mano, the world is flat.

      October 22, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • nigel

      Try studying some chemistry and you will understand the science. Please don't comment out of ignorance. It makes everyone look bad.

      October 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnrj08

      For people like you, one hundred thousand Nobel Prize winners could repeat this same information to you and you would remain unconvinced. The Arctic ice cover will probably be entirely gone in the next 20 years. What will it take for pig-headed people like you to get the message? The human species won't die in a nuclear holocaust. It will die of its own pathetic stupidity.

      October 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mag49

      Mano. You have the entire internet to study HUGE amounts of data that reveal an unprecedented rise in global temperatures, far outside what would be expected from natural climate change. Really now. Anybody that discounts this, is unknowingly waving a giant "IGNORANT" sign for everybody to see. At least everybody with the intellectual honesty to research topics for themselves outside of news websites.

      October 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • zippit

      http://poleshift.ning.com/

      October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • cecilia

      the real reason for this report is so the Democrats can sell "Save the Planet" t shirts – wanna buy one

      October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      I suppose you want to chance it a do nothing. If you are wrong the planet suffers. I f you are right then so be it, I'd rather not chance it if I can.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      Mano, who's to say? NOAA says.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • rschier

      but gee....there are already plenty of facts regarding this event.....ignorants just choose to deny them.....

      October 22, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Caspian

      okay, why don't you enlighten us. even with multiple professional degrees and making more dough than these so called climate scientists, people like me who don't believe in global warming because the evidence isn't there, must be dumb... right, go get a life.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      I'll confess, I'm no environmental expert, and I'm not saying Mano is right...but all three of you chose to insult him instead of actually providing any facts or making any kind of logical reasoning. He gave you the opportunity to make a convincing case, but instead you chose to undermine your own credibility.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Not a Moron

      Here are some facts for you, Mano: CO2 molecules are heat sponges. This is why in areas where the air is thinner (mountain tops) there is snow, while where the air is 'thickest' (below sea level, e.g. Death Valley) the higher CO2 concentrates cause the highest land temperatures. Another fact: we now have more nations using fossil fuels than ever before (India, China) in addition to traditional users such as the US, etc. The burning of more fossil fuels means more CO2 is released into the air. More CO2 = higher temperatures, aka that pesky 'global warming' that morons like you deny is happening. It's scary, dude. And if you have kids or grand kids, you should be worried for their well-being.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      Wow, I love how ya attack him when he brings up a valid point, and one I have wondered about, there is after all, a lot of mis-information on both sides of the debate. I heard one global warming alarmist say the Sun had nothing to do with it, and so on. The FACT is, we have been coming out of an iceage, you know, the thing that put the ice there in the first place. So, will ice completely dissapear before the next ice age starts? Is man truly effecting the climat, and because of that, will their ever be another iceage? We need so much more funding for science, we need to learn the answers to these questions.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • V

      @Mano:Yeah...if you were so sure these are beliefs, why dont you get off your couch and write a scientific paper and prove the 69 international scientist who made this report wrong.
      Also, to counter your argument that these are not natural cycles of warming, please see the graph(temp vs time) of the rate of change of temperature in the last couple of decades. I can suggest some links for graphs from NOAA but since you seem to know it better than NOAA please educate us with authentic graphs and with authentic scientific information for a change. (I hope you could follow what I am saying)

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • oneStarman - Walla Walla, WA

      This is just a Natural Part of the End of Days.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Awed in Austin

      Doesn't common sense tell you that man has had a profound affect on the earth? Earth now has a species that drives cars (millions driving every day) and factories spewing out filth every day. Does that not compute anything to you?
      Also, even IF you don't really believe man has an adverse affect, wouldn't it be better to error on the side of caution... JUST IN CASE!!?!?!

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andy

      If you think man made climate change isn't a problem, go read "Storms of My Grandchildren" by James Hansen and "With Speed and Violence – Why Scientists Fear Tipping Points in Climate Change" by Fred Pearce. Both books are downright scary.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stephen

      and the Earth is only 6k years, right? Wow man get at least a fraction of an education before you tard yourself with your poorly generated comment.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • but gee

      but gee, they said microwave tests took readings....enough facts for ya!!?? anyone see day after tomorrow? hahaha 2012????

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Hey Mano,

      To answer your question no we have not been warming up since the last glacial maximum. Orbital cycles affect the amount of incoming solar radiation received and the maximum incoming solar radiation resulted in maximum temperatures being reached between 8000 and 5000 years ago. The cycles then descend towards a minimum likely indicating that to some degree we should be gradually (although very slowly) cooling for the next 15,000 years (depending on which orbital theory you consider). We should not be heading for warmer temperatures. Climatic oscillations while orbital cooling do occur but it should be that the magnitude of warm oscillations gets lower and lower with time. Think of a tilted hockey stick as an okay analog for orbital cooling and how we relate to that.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      You are like the cancer patient who keeps looking for doctors to tell him he only has a cold. He does not like the cancer diagnosis so he keeps looking until if finds a quack that tells him he only has a cold. Then he goes home happy and drops dead in a few months

      October 22, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      Mano you dufus, there is this thing called science ... It has shown lots of great things like Evolution, The Benefits of Stem Cell Transplantation on catastrophic cell loss, and the fact that CO2 traps heat better then O2 and Nitrogen. Don't pick and choose when you want to utilize science (like those armor piercing bullets in rifle you use to hunt deer).

      October 22, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex K

      Wow, all you people that seem to be the guardians on the facts on global warming really haven't been keeping up on the news have you???? It seems all that conclusive data was all based on the same flawed data source. Genius! It's your perception, make it whatever you like.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.133

      They never seem to report when there is MORE ice. You people believe whatever the news tells you to believe! Of course, if you do not then you must be crazy, and a horrible person to doubt all this!! LOL LOSERS! Al Gore needs more $ for his houses...

      October 22, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • seeingitself

      The blind will not see....they only see what they WANT to see

      October 22, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Austinite

      But its Global WARMING? HOW CAN THIS MAKE IT COLD? FOX NEWS SAYS THIS IS RIDICULOUS. CNN MUST BE BIASED!

      October 22, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • JimCC

      Plenty of facts – start here: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/crowley.html

      But, I suspect you are one of those Teapots who just think they know better, oh well.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Professional Degrees

      Caspian – For someone with multiple professional degrees, your grammar is just terrible. You seem more like a high school student than a working professional. I seriously doubt you have the academic credentials and intelligence the senior scientists of the NOAA have and even If you do, why do you waste your time sounding like a tool at CNN.com? PS: I have multiple degrees too but I don’t use them to puff myself up when talking about subjects I know little about.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • JDT

      I took a physical geography class in college a few years ago and this is actually a natural occurance. Based on ice records, we are overdue for an ice age (by about a few hundred years). I say it is natural because, prior to an ice age, the earth has to warm, melt the ice, raise the sea levels, and then get cold and refreeze. We get gold by the melting ice cooling the water and cooling temperatures around the earth. Once our temperatures cool, the ice will refreeze and glacial movement will ensue. Another important characteristic of an impending ice age is warmer temps in the winter and cooler temps in the summer. We have seen both of these in recent years (for the most part). For example, the last 2 out of 3 christmas days, I have been able to run outside in 70 degree weather. I live in the upper north east, USA.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Reality Strikes

      Try reading the story, and the report it is based on. Or is it just that the facts oppose your pre-conceived conclusions make them "Eco-religious beliefs"?

      Duh.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd

      @ 'Not a moron' – CO2 is what plants 'breath' and then emit Oxygen, which is what we breath, then exhale CO2. It's symbiotic. If there is extra CO2, it's good for plants, then it's good for us. There is no correlation between temperature and CO2. Sorry to disappoint you. If you really believe there is, you might want to stop exhaling. After all you want to save the planet – right:-)?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      NASA. Ha! What do they know, right?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tevii

      No wonder things never get resolved. Mano never once said its wrong or isnt happening. He offered a POSSIBLE theory. Once disproven move on. Attacking him resolved nothing. He is asking for facts and the science. meaning he knows hes not an expert he just wants facts. So help him learn, dont attack. Their are fanatics on both sides so he is asking for a rational explanation. If once he recieves that and doesnt like what hes hearing and is just in denial then thats one thing. But to attack like that, its no wonder their are so many ignorant people: their AFRAID to ask

      October 22, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Al Gore

      THANK GOD!!! I hate cold weather.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elena A

      All of your past teachers did a terrible job.. If you actually went to school..

      October 22, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • someone

      HEY EVERYONE, WE'D BETTER INVADE IRAQ, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE!! after all, they might have nukes, and we can't take that chance, right?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Disco

      You go mano!

      To all those Glo-bull waming sheep:

      "Blah, blah, blah, blah, Al Gore, blah, blah, blah, carbon footprint, blah, blah, blah, huge profit, blah, blah, blah, 9,000 sq ft house, blah, blah, blah.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Unconscious

      Oh wow, all you idiots saying AMG READ JOURNALS GLOBAL WARMING IZ REAL, he isn't denying that. What he is saying is that there is no proof that it's man made contribution that's causing the global warming. Read some science about the man made contribution to CO2 levels, it's nothing compared to the CO2 that's produced naturally.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Good God, you guys, lay off of Mano, he has a very good point. On a recent trip to a museum,in the natural history section, I saw a display outlining the average world temperatures in the last thousand years, whcih scientist are able to determine by examining the rings of thousand year old trees (and other things).There have been several ups and downs, but it turns out that our time is actually much cooler than the average since 1000. The coldest period was around the early 1700's, and we are not much warmer than that now. Furthermore, the fuctuations in temperature occured over time periods of dozens of years, not 10. So to say what the climate is doing based on observations over the last few years, and stating it is abnormal, is, frankly, BS. These guys cant even predict the weather the day after tomorrow.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      johnrj08, Nigel and everyone else who thinks they have scientific evidence of global warming...please go find the actually scientific numbers! I guarantee you the amount of error will be 5X times any temperature rise you think you can find.

      Want to know a real fact: .28% of all carbon dioxide produced in the world is produced by humans. Here is another one: the water in the atmosphere contributes to 95% of the greenhouse gas effect. WATER!

      I am also a chemical engineer, and 80% of my professors do not believe there is ANY scientific evidence of global warming. You can make statistics say whatever you want if you are smart, and that is just what Al Gore did.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      Ok Mano I'm not going to insult you like the others. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant. If you choose to ignore information then that counts as stupidity, not ignorance..I would then sling the insults. That said here is some information for you to absorb, investigate, or stupidly dismiss: The "cycles" that you and others speak of do indeed exist and they have names. This isn't some newsflash for scientists. They are worried about global warming because we have deviated from the cycles. The most important of these "cycles" is the Milankovich cycle which was found long before the global warming debate..during WW 1 actually. There are many many others. Solar output cycles, sunspot cycles (hale cycles) etc. These have all been accounted for but again we have deviated. If you add in man-made greenhouse gasses it causes the model to realign with observation. That is why scientists are scared. There is no great conspiracy. We all live in a big fishtank and the filter that mother nature provides can only handle so much crap.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • skip

      ALL the planets and satellites are heating up right now. – source NASA.

      Mabye those martians and venusian cars burn too much fuel also.

      Two things are happening to increase the temperature on the heavenly bodies. Gamma emissions are higher and sun is cycling. Things will be like this for a couple more years. Then it will cool off and reset. It's going to start getting a lot colder as we reach the reset point. Pack wool.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • dwl

      Right or wrong I would rather error on the conservative side instead of dying because I was greedy and afraid I might upset my life style.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • scubydoo

      In what year did your brain die Mano?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyler

      Wow, they have done it again. They have now blamed cold weather on global warming. It is amazing what people will buy into these days. I think everybody can agree that the Earth and its average temperature fluctuates constantly, and while us humans may be affecting some of this change, it is negligible.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin J

      Ronald Reagan once said that "facts are stupid things", which is sad, but even sadder is that millions of people since have taken these words literally without question. Ignorance is high fashion these days, you just have to ignore the facts and just believe, just believe that climate change is a farce when the majority of climatologists prove otherwise. Just believe that budget cuts now, when there is massive unemployment and threats of deflation, will magically stimulate demand and create jobs, when the majority if economists say otherwise. Just believe that gov't is always bad, deregulation is always good, taxes are always bad, you just have to believe that this mantra will put more money into the hands of the middle class, when the facts show that the money flow has been upward, not downward. When you're stupid, facts are stupid things, that you can believe.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • JamBar

      It hasn't been warming since the last ice age. There have been fluctuations.

      The current science is sound, and there's a high likelihood that anthropogenic global climate change is a big deal. Don't take my word for it, and don't be lazy. Do a search for climate change in Google Scholar, restrict to recent, and read some excerpts of recent peer-reviewed scientific journals.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Erik

      Here again CNN using sensationalism to scare everyone. "The last 4 years have been the biggest melts", yet they make no mention of the slight recovery we have seen in the past 2. Using 4 years of data to skew popular belief to the uneducated/informed, while green agendas are being forced down our throats. It is an ebb and flow of evolution and while we take some part in this, many scientist discredit the radical-off the cliff stuff and realize that it is thousands of years of evolution that need to be considered. Putting this stuff on the web is way more harmful than good as they post to a bias or half truth. That is dangerous and it further discredits the work of many scientists that try to use unbiased methodologies to apply to there practice. Read for yourself and learn from both sides....not just one. http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?/forum/36-climate-change/

      October 22, 2010 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • sumday

      For those who ask for proof that man is a prime cause of global warming- you must first come to grasp with the 2nd law of physics- in layman’s terms energy is neither created nor destroyed only transformed. Now heat is a form of energy- it doesn't magically disappear. Do this experiment take a gallon of gas and put it a room and see if the temp of the room changes.....the room rep the earth before man burned fossil fuels....now light the gas on fire and see it the temp in the room changed??? this rep the earth after we started using fossil fuels. I know this is a big world but when you consider how many people burn at least 1 gal/day driving this heat has to go somewhere, also with the burning of gas comes co2 which acts as an insulation to trap heat, so in the mentioned example you really would need to burn a gallon of gas put more insulation on the walls burn another gallon then insulate some more over and over. Now if you can understand this example on a small scale with a gallon of gas and a room then just apply that to a much larger place called earth and now you can at least understand the simple logic behind global warming. Those who deny mans effect on global warming simply do not understand simple physics- and to those people I would ask where do you think all the heat from fossil fuels go? and i would say I can prove that burning fossil fuels add heat now will you please prove this heat magically disappears or at a min tell us where all this heat from burned fossil fuels go??? I think instead of asking us to prove that global warming is real it is easier to just show them their naiveness by asking them to prove that burning things don't add heat to a system or simply have them explain where they think the heat goes.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith in SoJax

      "Or would that concept interior their paycheck and "green" stock prices?" This isn't a coherent sentence. Did you mean interfere?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • amazed by simple math

      Oh boy, did you take a look at that 'source' Rob bases his "knowledge" on?
      There's like 3 obvious things copied from incorrect analysis by people with little to no math skills on the front page, and then a give us money frame on the side. Not to mention the site name is clearly a big flag that the site is trying to find any way to convince you of an opinion by a novice.

      October 22, 2010 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Anna

    These are not Eco-religious beliefs. These are facts.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Meh

      Who really cares.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.133

      read up on THOSE facts, will you?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • politicalmotivation.com

      Globalwarminghoax.com is not an unbiased science news source. It is a political website and anyone who can't understand that difference doesn't have a dog in this fight.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • amazed by simple math

      yeah Rob your out of your league here. If your really interested in making a current argument you have to do much better than that novice site.

      October 22, 2010 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Michael

    I find it funny that man made global warming was not mentioned once in the article, but right off the bat someone went on the defensive.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Aaron

      lol, any corporate news outlet that talks about climate is projecting their anthropogenic global warming alarmism to the boobuses that read it.

      October 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anna

      Your right Daniel about that. And man didn't invent global warming, it just happens more slowly when man is not a part of it. I read somewhere that we are headed more toward an ice age than heating up. So I have to wonder how hot are we going to get until we start cooling down. I try to do whatever little bit I can to help all around, and just hope everyone else gets on board also. I thought the other day about how people love their children so much you cannot touch them without washing your hands if touching an infant. Yet, we are leaving a terrible dirty, air polluted earth for them when they are our ages. I will just keep doing my part.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fred Evil

      According to your thinking Aaron, even if it WERE real, it would still be 'eco-religious' hooey, huh? Glad you aren't a scientist man.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      Yeah, that is because to many people have balmed this on man, and the facts just aren't here to support that, or dispute that, it's an unknown. However, global warming, which is seperate from man made global warming, appears to be happening, and the effects of it, appear to be real. I say appear, because we don't know whether this is just a short term spike, or if we are truly heading towards global warming. I don't know why people get so defensive either way. Instead of shooting others down, maybe we should be asking why, and posting the resources we read for our conclusions. Then maybe we can all come up with an informed opinion.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  4. brad

    so they've been measuring this for 31 years? wow you sure can base long term climate trends on that!

    October 22, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnrj08

      An ignorant comment. They've been measuring it with microwave satellites for 31 years which, by the way, is extremely accurate. There are obviously numerous ways to evaluate climate change going back thousands of years.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • 4sanity

      No, ice core samples from Greenland date back thousands of years. Sea ice turns over much faster, so measurements rely on direct observations which date back 30-50 years.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Meh

      You are so right Brad.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Aaron

    The Earth's climate is changing, as it always has.

    There is no evidence to suggest that man is suddenly responsible for the milankovich cycle.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      Earth's climate does change. Scientific understanding of these changes lead to the conclusion that the current changes are due to our activities.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • rschier

      Likewise there is absolutely no evidence to support that man has not caused this. Try again, do you have any
      kind of REAL point ?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • 4sanity

      The Milankovich cycle is insufficient to explain the effects seen over the current time frame from the beginning of the industrial revolution.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fred Evil

      "There is no evidence to suggest that man is suddenly responsible "
      Absolutely, patently false. There may not be definitive PROOF, but there is a SH1TLOAD of evidence that suggests exactly that!

      October 22, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      Yes the climate temperature rises and falls along trends, plot those trends and you can determine when there is variation that is beyond the norm, and the rate of rise over the past 100 years is what you would expect to see over 1000's of years. But hold onto your beliefs if you are wrong you will be long gone and no one will gloat as your grandchildren canoe to school in NYC. Are realy heading to the dark ages of reason in this country? Watch the movie Idiocracy and you will get one explanation why.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      All you people saying we have proof one way or the other, are just picking a side and then ignoring what the other says. There is evidence that supports both sides, why is that? Maybe it is because of greed, govenment backing, buisness backing, or maybe we just don't have enough information. There is so much we don't understand about our world. For example, just last year or so they learned that less solar activity allows more deepspace radiation into our atmosphere. Deepspace radiation causes clouds to form. That is just ONE thing, there are so many other things we don't understand. How about this, try not picking a side, just listen to the facts, and try to live as clean as you can. In other words, use common scence.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      Your statement indicates you might not understand the Milankivich cycle. Man has nothing to do with that. What is worrysome is that we are beginning to deviate from the Milankivich cycle (as well as many others that make more subtle contributions to the climate) indicating there is another variable at work. If you tweak the models this way and that what you find is adding manmade greenhouse gasses to the model cause it to suddenly align with measured observation.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Evidence

      The evidence is pretty clear that man is changing the atmospheric composition of this planet (which likely means changes in climate). We have billions of years of geological evidence that demonstrates that the CO2 rate in the atmosphere is not capable of changing by hundreds of percentage points within a century or two absent a major geological catastrophe. That is VERY strong evidence my friend.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • sumday

      you claim there is no evidence of man contributing to global warming....tell you what take a gallon of gas let is sit in the can does it add heat? now pour the gas out and lite it on fire does that add heat? Where do you think the heat from the burned gas goes? Do you think it magically disappears?? I'd say if we can undeniably prove that burning gas raise the temp of the surronding area and we can prove that we burn millions of gallons of gas a day in cars alone then I'd say there is at least some evidence of man having a hand in this. Just figure out how much gas has been burned in the past 100yr and please explain/prove to me where the heat from that burned gas went???? I'm waiting???

      October 22, 2010 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Richard

    Yes, because most of their predictions (like vast and multiple hurricanes in the Atlantic) have not come to pass, the enviros are saying global warming is causing... severe cold and snow!...Global warming theory is as nutty as the World socialist cause it replaced.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • cedarrapids

      Ah so you are one of the people that believes 'global warming' simply means everywhere gets warmer right? Thats why they started using the phrase 'climate change' in the 90's, to try to avoid thinking like that. Guess they still have some work to do.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Meh

      Well said Richard

      October 22, 2010 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Weatherbug

      The predictions about hurricanes in the Atlantic were correct. Not many have made landfall, so most people didn't pay attention. But, they still happened.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Frank

    The earth's atmosphere repeatedly warms and cools without interference from humans – that's a fact! Going green is just big business.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Richard

      HUGE business. Al Gore is now worth over $100M because of it. GE (one of the largest companies on Earth) is heavily investing in it. Meanwhile, we mere humans, paying $0.07KWh for electricity will be expected to subsidize solar and wind power at $0.50 to $0.80KWh. It is truly insane.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Meh

      Frank you are so right. It is big money. Gotta go and start up the Hummer and go belch out a few carbon molecules.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      Oh nosssss, not the big bad scary buisness, heaven forbid we have companies that sale us stuff, and give us jobs, and pay most of the taxes that provide our country things you enjoy. Yeah, green is big buisness, because it is a new way of living, and the smart ones are taking advantage of it first. Don't be jealouse just because you are to stupid to know how to cash in on it. So what, do you think it should alll just be free? Are these power companies just going to pull cash out of their azz to pay for everything? You truly are stupid, so your going to let things happen to you, that could make your life worse, just to show the man? Yeah, good luck with that, I prefer a world that is as clean as possible, your would will eventually be covered in trash, you should fit right in with it.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Brandon

    Mano – did you happen to read the very last paragraph of the article? Warming cycles are indeed natural; the concept of global warming as it regards humans is that we are speeding the process up.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kyle

      I concur Brandon. These non-believers just don't understand that the rise of the Industrial Age 200 years ago has drastically sped up the earth's cycles. I do not understand why this is such a hard concept to believe and how can you dismiss the facts if you have no evidence of your own?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • KDW31

      I may be remembering incorrectly but I think we have actually slowed down the cycle as far as ice ages go. I believe we are well over due for an ice age at this point in time. There is no doubt that man is making an impact on the climate. The question is more How disastrous are the consequences of that change and how well do the current models predict what will happen in the future? I would say the data is currently inconclusive. That said we know we are making an impact of some sort. We know that these things we place into the atmosphere not only change the climate but are harmful to us as well. We know that we have reached peak oil production and that there will only be less and less available as more and more countries are increasing there standard of living and desire for oil. These are all good reason to make environmental changes no matter what one thinks of climate change.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Brian

    Mano... read up on your geology. You may even want to take an English class, too (i.e., "interior" isn't a verb).

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Jim

    It's nature's way of helping take care of the overcrowding of the planet by third world countries.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • kris

      So nature only wants rich industrialized nations? Get a grip!

      October 22, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  11. MoreSnow

    It's amazing how people will try to politicize the deterioration of our planet. Anyone that denies manmade global climate change is really warped.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Aaron

      Or capable of thinking for themselves. Correlation does not prove causation.

      Big government and big business pwn you.

      October 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Leon

      Ah, but correlation does exist if there is causation.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • gman

      @Aaron – Good point, well spoken. Would you admit that it is POSSIBLE that human activities could have an affect on the earth's climate?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Lol it's funny how "thinking for yourself" translates into "ignore all scientific evidence and invent something preposterous" Don't like evolution? Think for yourself and invent Intelligent Design! Don't like exercising? Think for yourself and eat your way through that 2lb Doritos bag! It's all a conspiracy between big business, liberals and the military-industrial complex anyway, right?

      October 22, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Eric

    The mistake a lot of environmentalists make is implying that the planet will be wrecked. In the long run, it won't be. The earth is very good at maintaining balance in the long run. For example, the massive cooling system that kicks in due to the warming we cause will set things right (more moisture in the atmosphere will actually cause cooling after initial warming jumps). Its just going to kill a few billion people due to crop shortages, extreme temperature etc.

    The earth and life in general will be ok. It will suck for us. The funny thing is, a lot of anti-warming folk will think this is OK if they accept this conclusion, mocking environmentalists with this...because they assume they'll survive because, hey, they pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  13. joy

    It's okay Mano. People used to think the earth was flat, and then they woke up. You'll wake up to this reality soon enough too.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Meh

      Another member of the sheep herd. And, notably female.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      So females can't reason and think Meh? Wow, I knew there were stupid people in the world, but you, you are pure stupidity, I am so glad you hold no power over peoples lives, women would still be in the house, there would still be slavery, earth would still be flat, and the jews would all be dead. I tell you what, do the world a favor, and dont' use the one brain cell in your head.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jeremiah

    Was global warming to blame when there was a high ice melt in 1958?

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Randolph Carter

      No, climarte and weather are two different, but interrelated phenomena. But you're too stupid to understand that. Have a nice day!

      October 22, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Randolph Carter

      I meant climate. Now who's stupid? Have a nice day!

      October 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • kaisersouse

      Randolph: "whose"

      October 22, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeremiah

      I get it. When it happened in the past its "weather". When it happens today its "climate". Have a beautiful day!

      October 22, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Ted

    NOAA stops short of blaming manmade greenhouse gases, in addition to earthmade greenhouse gases, from being at fault for the arctic ice melting. The arctic ice has performed the role of thermostat for earth. But due to the industrial age and the smoke and fumes from that and deforestation in Brazil and other equatorial countries, we are speeding up the death of earth as we know it.

    October 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      Wow, did you just type that right from a book? I don't think I heard any real thought of your own in that. When the world was completly covered in Ice, why did it still warm up enough to begin melting it? I mean, all that ice reflected most of the light back into space, it should have caused a run away cooling effect, but something changed that. I know for a fact humans do have a massive impact on this planet, I just don't know how much, but both sides have FACTS. In my opinion, both sides sound like they have a long way to go before they understand our climate.

      October 22, 2010 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
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