November 10th, 2010
10:52 PM ET

Amazon.com book defending pedophilia sparks boycott

A listing for 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure' is no longer on Amazon.com.

[Updated at 10:52 p.m. ET] The title no longer appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers.

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] The listing for "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" is no longer available on Amazon.com. The title still appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers at number 96, with 2,066 comments.

An e-book for sale on Amazon.com that appears to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulls the title.

Nearly 1,700 users who had commented on the title as of 9:40 p.m. ET deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the self-published title from the site. At least two Facebook  pages have been set up dedicated to boycotting Amazon because of the book.

The stated content appears to violate two of Amazon's content guidelines for digital publication. The company has not returned CNN's repeated requests for comment.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" said he published the controversial tome to address what he considers unfair portrayals of pedophiles in the media.

"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday.

When asked if the self-published e-book was a "how-to manual," he said, "there are certain parts that are advisory," which set out lines that should not be crossed.

"Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem," he said.

The Pueblo, Colorado, man told CNN that he has not had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but did when he was a teenager. He also said he "was introduced to oral sex when I was 7" by an older female but did not provide specifics.

In the title's Amazon.com product description, Greaves described it as "my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian [sic] rules for these adults to follow.

"I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught," he said.

Most users who commented on the title said they deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the title.

"It is ILLEGAL to molest children, and for Amazon to promote such is insane. I'm an abuse survivor, and am OUTRAGED Amazon would choose to promote this nonsense. I will not be purchasing anything from your website until this is removed," one user wrote in a comment echoed by others.

Others lamented they could not give the book less than "one star" in submitting their reviews, saying they would shop elsewhere during the holiday season.

"Cannot believe that Amazon is selling this. I was in the middle of placing my whole Christmas shopping order when I saw something about this. After reviewing it, I have canceled my order from Amazon and am encouraging all of my friends not to order from Amazon because they are choosing to sell this book. I will not be purchasing anything from Amazon until they agree to quit selling this book," another user said.

Amazon did not return CNN's requests for comment, but one user posted what it said was Amazon's response to an e-mail the person had sent.

"Let me assure you that Amazon.com does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."

"Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable."

The company's website provides content guidelines for titles sold through its Digital Text Platform Program. The guidelines say publishers are expected to conduct proper research to ensure that titles are in compliance with all local, state, national and international laws.

"If Amazon Digital Services, Inc. determines that the content of a Title is prohibited, we may summarily remove or alter it without returning any fees. Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to make judgments about whether or not content is appropriate," the guidelines state.

Pornography, offensive material and "titles which may lead to... illegal activity" are among the prohibited content listed in the guidelines.

What Amazon deems offensive, "is probably about what you would expect" the guidelines state, without elaboration, except to say that, "Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to determine the appropriateness of Titles sold on our site."

A few Amazon.com users defended the author's right to free speech, and a discussion on the site titled "Why Amazon is Right" delved into the constitutional implications of the controversy.

"While I think 99.9 percent of us object to pedophilia (even though I think this particular book was a publicity stunt/joke), I think we can all agree that we don't want someone else censoring a subject matter that we may be interested in. Religion, atheism, homosexuality, etc. are some subjects that spring to mind ... and they have been censored in the past until we realized that it's best to let all information in (even if we don't like some of it), rather than allow some authority or individual decide what we can and can't know about based on their own opinions or motivations," one user wrote.

The author has three other titles on Amazon.com under his name. They are available on the e-reader, Kindle, and all were published within the last week.

Greaves described himself as a former nurses' aid and in-home health care provider who is retired and on disability for "manic depression." He said he first began writing as a child and hopes to continue doing so full time.

But conspiracy theories over the book abound, with commenters citing it as a publicity stunt, a hoax, or perhaps a law enforcement sting.

"People... Relax... This book is obviously promoted by Amazon per request of FBI in order to track down and catch pedophiles. This book is obviously a bait for the sickos that are lurking around out there trying to prey on our children."

soundoff (568 Responses)
  1. tomcat

    Lets start banning medical or anotomical books. They show far more graphic pictures than playboy. What of the paintings of cherubs? Has anyone said that these are considered obscene? How many parents take pictures of their kids in the tub or getting bathed in the sink? Well guess we are all on the short road to hell.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
  2. mttrailboss

    Don't worry folks.., the Catholic Church has this one all locked up. Wonder if they wrote the book.., interesting point. Instead of buying and reading the book, just ask a priest.., they seem to know the territory. Mike in Montana

    November 10, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • NoOneInParticular

      A mom said to her kid: "You just had to say it don't you? You just had to open your mouth! If you'd just kept quiet, no one wouldda known you are ignorant!" Yup! That's you my friend... just had to open you mouth!!

      November 10, 2010 at 11:07 pm | Report abuse |
  3. cecelia m. carmelo

    Why don't we want Amazon to read/review what they selll.............I am in CA., 7:04 or so.......and this conversation is growing more & more outrageous & disgusting! Some of us work all day, and this has been on for days? Why isn't local national news stations informing the public??????

    November 10, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
  4. ADISGUSTEDMOTHER

    Amazon.com is probably a bunch of pedophiles themselves!!! I will never buy anything from them again!!!

    November 10, 2010 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Laurie

    I cannot even rap my mind around the event of this book...but as Americans we can put a different light on this...Why can't everyone who even goes there and buy's the book be profiled??? Can there not be a tracking devise??? It may make the job easier for FBI investigators and everyone else involved to catch these sick people...This sick and twisted author may just have cut his own nose off to despite his face...

    November 10, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Sister Carol

    @ Steve-O. No victims from being Gay????Perhaps you are forgetting about AIDS !? No Victims..... MILLION AND MILLIONS ARE DIEING FROM AIDS AND SPREADING IT TO WOMEN AND MORE MEN AND MORE WOME AND CHILDREN !!!! That's THE Single stupidest remark I ever heard in my Life !!

    November 10, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  7. mistaskanless

    Why woulld anyone take pics of thier (or anyone's) child naked/washing/whatever?? And who is the sick person that wants to see it? I dont want to see My Kids or Yours naked.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Michael

    Freedom speech only goes so far. I am totally against censorship, but there exceptions. This is one. It is illegal to even look at pictures of nude children. It should be illegal to write about it in a how to book.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Lolac

    I canceled my Amazon account. They will never see another dime of my money.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
  10. shelley

    Bad move Amazon...Freedom without responsibilty is chaos

    November 10, 2010 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Bimston

    You can publish whatever you want, no matter how repugnant or disgusting. Just because you don't like something, you cannot ban speech about it. If that speech leads to a law being broken, then you can certainly pursue that. If I made a book on how to make poison that tastes like Coca-Cola, I shouldn't be surprised when somebody dies from my recipe and I shouldn't be surprise when I get sued into poverty. That's the double-edged sword of the right and responsibility of free speech. If you don't like it, go live somewhere else.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • mom_of_3

      This is a nasty book on HOW TO MOLEST CHILDREN! I don't care what the heck you want to say in a book....MOLESTING CHILDREN(IS ILLEGAL) or BUYING A BOOK ON HOW TO MOLEST CHILDREN SHOULD BE ILLEGAL! Freedom of speech,HA! That freedom of speech to teach child-molestation! If you think thats ok...then YOU have issues yourself! I know that if I EVER hear men/women practicing their FREEDOM of SPEECH towards child-molestation(how to's),I would pop them in the mouth. I am a SURVIVOR of this nasty kind of crap! I hope to God that the FBI is tracing who the buyers are. UGH! I swear!

      November 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • opin

      We have painted ourselves into a corner with 'free speech', this is definitely one time when morality must prevail. I dont care what amazon is trying to do, this totally disgusts me, anything for a buck with no care as to the consequences that follow or claiming of responsiblity either. This is the moral decay of America or the whole world for that matter, acceptance of all these alternate lifestyles eventually lead to something like this.

      November 10, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan Shive

      Freedom of speech means you have freedom to criticize the government. Not to publish a how to on molesting. However. The fault lies with the publisher

      November 10, 2010 at 11:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wzrd1

      First, I've not read the book, hence I'd not judge it over media hype.
      That said, Bimston, you are incorrect in one thing. You can ATTEMPT to have a book published. If a publisher refuses, it's called managerial prerogative. A business may accept or NOT accept business from whomever they so choose.
      And a seller can refuse to sell or not refuse to sell a product under the same discretion.
      For Amazon to sell what is claimed, especially as the holiday season approaches is irreconcilable with good business practices.
      And to refuse an interview with an internationally known news media outlet when a rather large controversy begins is even more unfathomable.

      November 11, 2010 at 12:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      Wzrd: you are, of course, right about that. Amazon is under no obligation to publish this material (nor are they under any obligation to *not* publish it), regardless of how obscene or disgusting the average Joe may find it. And customers are perfectly within their rights to boycott Amazon over this. I only have an issue when people start spitting mad and claiming that some law has been broken, when none has. If something illegal happens, then we can do something about that. Until then, I wish everybody would just simmer down.

      November 11, 2010 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • rahul db

      The problem with freedom of speech is that you sometimes hear things you dont want to or that which mortifies you but the road down the path of "limits' is one that will surely lead to oppression. There are many things that one can do to fight this especially investigate if his 'only as a teenager' story is true.

      November 11, 2010 at 4:48 am | Report abuse |
    • bigwhitebird29

      "That's the double-edged sword of the right and responsibility of free speech." AMEN BROTHER!! Its the double edge sword of the RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY of ALL FREEDOM! Without consequence, there can be no freedom.

      November 11, 2010 at 7:35 am | Report abuse |
    • so.tired.of.it

      Where does it say that a retailer MUST offer everything for sale? At any rate, assuming Amazon MUST offer this trash for sale, I certainly have the right to sever all ties with Amazon and make my purchases elsewhere.

      November 11, 2010 at 7:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      I do not believe this is an issue of free speech. When you publish something whose intent is teach or promote how to harm an innocent child physically and/or mentally, it is wrong. The authors and others justifications are a load of malarkey, to put it politely. There's just no way anyone can justify this.

      November 11, 2010 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
    • why not

      where was all this defense of freedom of speech when the pastor in Florida wanted to burn the Qu'ran? I didn't agree with it, but there sure were a lot of people calling him an idiot and psychopath, etc. but amazon is just allowing this nut job to exercise freedom of speech? we have sure become a backwards society.

      November 11, 2010 at 8:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Thembi Huff

      II am so sadden and angry that a book like this can be published and that an adult could even think that it is ok to touch a child in such a way. I feel that US to have tougher laws against pedophilias. My prayer is that no child goes through such a horrific and sick act.

      November 11, 2010 at 8:38 am | Report abuse |
    • Kerwyn

      Bimston,

      You are completely accurate. As disgusting as I perceive this book to be, he is within his rights to write and publish it. I abhor the idea of banning books, so I shall make my displeasure known where it hurts the most, in Amazon's checkbook.

      I and many others will not be buying from either Amazon or Amazon's marketplace. Perhaps if all the vendors who place their goods to sell on Amazon also feel the pinch, then the message will get through.

      November 11, 2010 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
    • DMB

      NO YOU CAN'T publish a book about anything you want. This is a crime. And this quote: True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday." NEVER HURT. no they just slowly murder our children by invading their bodies. As a victim of this crime I say all you DISGUSTING pedo need to be dead. Should I write a book about how to kill a Pedophile?

      Why Amazon decided to even carry this book is beyond me.

      Most important thing everyone. Guard our children with your life. There are TOO MANY people out there who hurt children and it's even more sad when it's their own parents doing it to them.

      November 11, 2010 at 9:05 am | Report abuse |
    • askmehow

      I dare this author to publish the name of the child victim he admits molesting. He only says he was a teenager could be 18 or 19. I wish the victim would press charges. There is enough evidence to start an investigation. The author says he doesn't think it's that much of a problem. We'll see.

      November 11, 2010 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Neeneko

      I find it interesting that people are up in arms about this, yet books on how to slowly kill your child via faith healing or exotic diets do not register a blip. That is the funny thing about moral panics... hyperfocus on one narrow part of a problem that is as far away from people's own behavior as possible... regardless of how many children are actually harmed. People tend to forget how many types of horrific physical and psychological abuse are not only legal, but you can go down to your local bookstore and pick up guides... or down to your local church and chat with other parents about how best to torture your child.

      November 11, 2010 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
    • lcf

      mom of 3 I hear you. WTH is wrong with these people. Whoever purchases this book better never come near my kids!!!

      November 11, 2010 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      This isn't about free speech, this is about publishing a "how to" manual on molesting our children. In case your "in the dark" molestation is ILLEGAL! If you don't mind this informative guide on ruining a kids life before it ever gets started, how about a book about bomb making, or poisoning,, it would be faster and much less painful. Or better yet, how about a book on CASTRATION,,, now I'd buy that one!

      November 11, 2010 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Kristy

      Amazon has every right to sell this book. Just like I have EVERY right to NEVER buy anything from them again. I say cripple them by not purchasing from them. You let them have their “freedom of speech” all the way to bankruptcy! I hope every company associated with Amazon drops them like a hot potato!

      November 11, 2010 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • UTLonghorn

      Making Poision is NOT illegle act , where child molestaion is. no one said he had no right to write the book. they just said we will use our right not to buy from amazon.

      November 11, 2010 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Anna

    Up next, Amazon defends lack of sales and lack of blogger advertising due to defending it's right to sell this ONE BOOK. Smart move right before Christmas. Brilliant Amazon! I'll pay more for a free conscience. Thanks!

    November 10, 2010 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      Just take a pill and go to bed. You'll feel better in the morning, Anna.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Aimee

      Anna, I agree 100%. I'll spend more to shop elsewhere. In no way will I knowingly be connected to such filth.
      Amazon.com YOU SUCK!

      November 11, 2010 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
  13. Kiwi

    For those who are arguing about whether this falls under protection with the First Amendment:

    Let's go back to US Government class. The First Amendment does indeed protect the freedom of speech and press, HOWEVER there is one form of speech/press that is not guaranteed protection – Obscene Material.

    The legal definition of Obscene Speech/Press as decided in the Roth V. United States and Regina v. Hicklin court cases is as follows: "whether the tendency of the matter charged as obscenity is to deprave and corrupt those whose minds are open to such immoral influences, and into whose hands a publication of this sort may fall."

    I would think this type of book falls under the Obscene category.

    Amazon is gonna be feeling the hurt this Christmas without their regular shoppers. I've already found other sources for my gifts.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      If it's obscene material, then the courts should rule on it. We should not.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heather

      not to mention, the first amendment refers to government censorship and not private censorship.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • mom_of_3

      I sure hope so! I am sooo dead serious...this truly sickens me! I am truly hoping that FBI is watching the buyers. There are far too many molesters out there & they need to be caught. Keep them locked up,because they don't change!

      November 10, 2010 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Only a lawyer could misunderstand "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech."

      The Court was and is utterly wrong in its interpretation of the First Amendment.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
  14. cecelia m. carmelo

    You know, some people are missing "pieces"; that's in the brain? I live here so I can tell you that!

    November 10, 2010 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      And, pray tell, what pieces might these be?

      November 11, 2010 at 12:22 am | Report abuse |
  15. MGD

    there's limitations to freedom of speech. promoting something illegal shouldn't classify as free speech. similarly, if there's a book that advocates the mass murder of Jews, should it be banned from Amazon or be published under freedom of speech ?

    people have this ridiculous notion that FoS means talking crap all you want as long as you don't physically do it. that's the same reasoning that 50Cent advocates gays to kill themselves. sure it's LEGAL, but it's poor taste and no class (not that i was setting a bar high for him either)

    November 10, 2010 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech" can't be any clearer. It must protect ALL minority viewpoints or it is utterly meaningless.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
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