Arizona shooting: Latest developments
A makeshift memorial outside U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' District Office.
January 10th, 2011
08:21 PM ET

Arizona shooting: Latest developments

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Six people were killed and 14 others wounded, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, when a gunman opened fire in front of a Safeway supermarket in Tucson, Arizona, authorities said. The congresswoman had been hosting a meeting with constituents Saturday morning when the attack began.

Here are the latest developments as confirmed by CNN:

[Updated at 8:19 p.m.] President Barack Obama will travel to Tucson on Wednesday, and likely will attend a memorial service and visit with the relatives of the shooting victims, many of whom he already has spoken to by phone, two senior administration officials tell CNN.

[Updated at 4:33 p.m.] Suspect Jared Lee Loughner has made a 15-minute initial appearance in a federal court in Phoenix. A judge asked Loughner whether he understood the charges - attempted assassination of a member of Congress; two counts of murder for the deaths of Judge John Roll and Gabriel Zimmerman; and two counts of attempted murder. Loughner replied that he understood.

A preliminary hearing is scheduled for January 24.

[Updated at 2:23 p.m.] Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, sent an email the night before she was shot at an event in Tucson calling for a more civil tone in politics.

Giffords offered congratulations to Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson, a Republican, after he was named Director of Harvard University's Institute of Politics on Friday.

"After you get settled, I would love to talk about what we can do to promote centrism and moderation," Giffords wrote in the email, provided to CNN by Grayson. "I am one of only 12 Dems left in a GOP district (the only woman) and think that we need to figure out how to tone our rhetoric and partisanship down."

[Updated at 12:43 p.m.] Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro weighed in on the Arizona mass shooting that killed six and injured 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in a column distributed Monday.

[Updated at 12:15 p.m.] Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords remains in critical condition but her condition has stabilized, doctors at Tucson's University Medical Center indicated Monday.

"We're not out of the woods yet" but are optimistic about her prospects of recovery, said Dr. Michael Lemole, chief of neurosurgery.

[Updated at 12:03 p.m.] Two patients from Saturday's shooting have been discharged and only two remain in intensive care, the chief of the department of surgery at Tucson's University Medical Center announced Monday.

Eight patients remain at Tucson's University Medical Center, Chief of Emergency Medicine Peter Rhee announced Monday. Five are in serious condition, two are in good condition, and one is in critical condition, Rhee said.

[Updated at 11:01 a.m.] President Barack Obama led the nation in a moment of silence Monday for victims of the weekend massacre in Tucson, Arizona.

[Updated at 9:47 a.m.] Judge John Roll,  one of the victims in the Arizona shooting, will leave behind a legacy as a man who put excellent attention into every component of his life, his former clerk spoke told CNN's T.J. Holmes.

[Updated at 9:15 a.m.] Dr. Steven Rayle, helped hold the Arizona gunman down and Patricia Maisch, grabbed the magazine cartridge after suspect Jared Lee Loughner allegedly opened fire in a Safeway in Tuscon, Arizona.

"You just react," Maisch told CNN about approaching the gunman. "You just do it."

[Updated at 9:01 a.m.] The University Medical Center in Tucson is expected to give an updated diagnosis on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords condition later Monday morning after she was shot in the head.

Chief of neurosurgery at the hospital, Dr. Michael Lemole, told CNN that Rep. Giffords is 'holding her own' and that no change in her condition is a good thing.

[Updated at 8:49 a.m.] Ben McGahee, Jared Lee Loughner's former teacher at Pima Community College told CNN he believed suspect Jared Lee Loughner was a troubled man and that he was "scared of what he could do.'

[Updated at 8:34 a.m.] While the motivation for Saturday's attack in Tucson, Arizona are still unclear, a concern in Washington and in the nation at large is whether or not the current political rhetoric has gotten out of control.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz warns that while "we cannot allow incidences like this intimidate" we still must remember that "words matter."

[Updated at 8:00 a.m.] Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, whose department is working on the case, said they have evidence showing Jared Lee Loughner "specifically targeted the congresswoman."

[Updated at 7:40 a.m.] Arizona State Representative Steve Farley talked to CNN about Gabrielle Giffords and her family who he described as remaining 'strong' and 'optimistic.'

[Updated 4:50 a.m.] Astronaut Mark Kelly, Giffords' husband, released his first public statement since the weekend shooting rampage outside an Arizona supermarket that left his wife critically injured. He thanked supporters, expressed
condolences to families of other victims and suggested that well-wishers make donations to Tucson's Community Food Bank and the American Red Cross. "Many of you have offered help. There is little that we can do but pray for those who are struggling," he said.

[Updated Monday at 2:12 a.m.] Suspect Jared Lee Loughner is scheduled to make an initial appearance before a federal magistrate in Phoenix, Arizona, Monday at 2 p.m. (4 p.m. ET),  prosecutors said.

[Updated 9:45 p.m.] Suspect Jared Lee Loughner tried to buy ammunition at a Wal-Mart a few weeks back but was turned down because of his behavior, a law enforcement source said. He then successfully bought it at a different Wal-Mart, according to the source.

[Updated 9:16 p.m.] A woman credited with wrestling an ammunition magazine from the suspect says she didn't have time to think about what she was doing. "(The suspect) pulled the magazine out of his pants pocket and it dropped onto the sidewalk. And before he could reach it, I got it," Patricia Maisch said.

[Updated 7:49 p.m.] Suspect Jared Lee Loughner was rejected by the Army for military service after failing a drug test in 2008, according to an administration official.

[Updated 7:43 p.m.] The U.S. Supreme Court says it will observe the moment of silence that President Barack Obama called for at 11 a.m. ET Monday. To accommodate this, the court will convene 10 minutes early, at 9:50 a.m. ET, so that the day's first argument before the court will be completed by 11 a.m.

[Updated 7:36 p.m.] House Democrats and Republicans participated in a rare bipartisan conference call Sunday to discuss the condition of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords as well as security concerns for members of Congress.

[Updated 6:33 p.m.] According to a federal agent's affidavit, U.S. District Judge John Roll, who was killed in the shooting, came to the Tucson from Phoenix to discuss the volume of federal cases in Arizona with Giffords.

[Updated 6:28 p.m.] The FBI has confirmed that investigators have found, questioned and cleared a man they had sought as a "person of interest" after the killings. The man was cab driver who dropped suspect Jared Lee Loughner off at the Safeway where Giffords' "Congress on Your Corner" event was being held, a law enforcement official previously said.

[Updated 6:24 p.m.] Veteran federal public defender Judy Clarke, who has experience in several high-profile cases including those of "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski and convicted terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, was appointed to defend suspect Jared Lee Loughner, a federal judicial source said.

[Updated 6:01 p.m.] Calls to 911 following Saturday's shooting - released Sunday by the Pima County Sheriff's Office - paint a patchy picture of the scene.

[Updated 4:56 p.m.] Investigators found papers bearing the words "my assassination" and "Giffords" in a safe in the home of shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner, according to a complaint filed against him in federal court.

[Updated 3:56 p.m.] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is the only person wounded in Saturday's shooting who is still in critical condition, doctors at University Medical Center in Tucson said. Three are in serious condition, six are in fair condition, and one has been released, they said.

– Officers of the Arizona Anti-Defamation League issued a statement condemning the attack: "During her years in the statehouse, Rep. Giffords served on the ADL Arizona Regional Board. Her affiliation with ADL, which monitors and exposes hate and extremist groups, contributed to her awareness of the nexus between hate ideology and violence. It is a testament to her dedication to her constituents that despite past threats against her, Rep. Giffords has always been so accessible to the people she represents.  Our thoughts and prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords and the other victims and their families."

[Updated 3:33 p.m.] Investigators have identified and ruled out the "person of interest" they were seeking in connection with the shooting, a law enforcement official said Sunday.

[Updated 3:30 p.m.] Federal authorities have charged Jared Lee Loughner, the 22-year-old suspect in Saturday's Arizona massacre, with first-degree murder, attempted murder and attempting to kill a member of Congress, according to court documents. Read the charges here.

[Updated at 3:25 p.m.] President Barack Obama called for a moment of silence to be held at 11 a.m. ET Monday and ordered flags to be flown at half-staff.

"I call on Americans to observe a moment of silence to honor the innocent victims of the senseless tragedy in Tucson, Arizona, including those still fighting for their lives," the president said in a news release. "It will be a time for us to come together as a nation in prayer or reflection, keeping the victims and their families closely at heart."

[Updated at 2:21 p.m. ET] Law enforcement investigators were speaking with a second person in the Arizona  Safeway shootings case, a law enforcement official told CNN. It is not clear whether this individual is the same person police had sought via the release of a surveillance image from overnight. It is also unknown at this time what connection this individual may have to the investigation.

[Updated at 1:38 p.m. ET] A dark-haired man seen in a picture distributed by authorities apparently "may not have been involved at all, but we still need to verify that," Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Sunday.

[Updated at 1:18 p.m. ET] Precautions are in place to ensure the security of public officials after the shooting of an Arizona congresswoman, although authorities are aware of no specific threat against them, FBI Director Robert Mueller told reporters Sunday.

[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] The suspect in the Saturday shootings of 20 people at a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store is in federal custody, FBI Director Robert Mueller told reporters. Formal charges are expected against Jared Lee Loughner Sunday afternoon, he said.

[Updated at 12:13 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona is "able to communicate" with people, and the gunshot wound she sustained Saturday did not cross from one hemisphere of the brain to the other, doctors at Tucson's University Medical Center said Sunday.

[Updated at 12:00 p.m. ET] President Obama spoke by phone late Saturday to Mark Kelly, the husband of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was critically injured in a mass shooting, a senior White House official said. The official told CNN that Obama "expressed his deep concern and full support" for the family in the wake of the tragedy.

[Updated at 8:49 a.m. ET] House Speaker John Boehner has asked that flags on the House side of the Capitol be flown at half-staff in the wake of the shooting in Arizona, marking the death of Gabe Zimmerman, who was Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' director of community outreach.  "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve," Boehner said Sunday.  "Such acts of violence have no place in our society. These tragic events remind us that all of us, in our roles in service to our fellow citizens, comes with a risk. This inhuman act should not and will not deter us from our calling to represent our constituents and to fulfill our oaths of office. No act, no matter how heinous, must be allowed to stop us from our duty," Boehner said.

Authorities executed search warrants late Saturday night on a car and a residence where suspect Jared Lee Loughner  lived with his parents, a law enforcement source said.

The law enforcement source said that Loughner's parents appeared to be cooperating with authorities, but the source did not know to what extent.

Loughner, however, was still not cooperating. He had earlier invoked his right against self-incrimination.

The sheriff's office said early Sunday that the correct name of one of the victims who died in the shooting is Dorothy Morris.

The Pima County Sheriff's Department is expected to hold another news conference at 11 a.m. Sunday (1 p.m. ET).

The University Medical Center in Tucson will offer a patient condition update at 10 a.m. Sunday (12 p.m. ET).

As of 3:45 a.m. Sunday, Giffords remained in critical condition, said Darci Slaten, spokeswoman for the medical center. Of the nine other shooting victims taken to that hospital, four others were in critical condition and five were in serious condition.

Early Sunday morning, the sheriff's office released a surveillance camera photo of a male between 40 and 50 years old who is "possibly associated with the suspect." The dark-haired man was last seen wearing blue jeans and a dark blue jacket, and was seen at the location where the shooting occurred.

– At 2 p.m. Sunday, a caucus conference call has been scheduled for House Democrats and their spouses to get an update on the shooting, two congressional sources said.

– At 8:30 a.m., Speaker of the House John Boehner will address the media in West Chester, Ohio, about the shooting.

THE INCIDENT

Congresswoman Giffords was taking part in a meet-and-greet with constituents called "Congress on Your Corner" outside a Safeway grocery store in Tucson.

Before the event, she tweeted: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."

The attack happened about 10 minutes into the event.

Giffords did not have any security with her, said staffer Mark Kimble. "She wants to be as accessible to the people who elected her as possible," he said.

Dr. Steven Rayle was about 10 feet away from Giffords when the gunman shot the congresswoman. "He continued to fire, sort of rapidly, really at point-blank range," he said, adding that the man was shooting indiscriminately.

The suspect was tackled to the ground by two men while he was trying to reload, another witness said.

The gun, which another bystander had wrestled from the gunman, was empty and cocked open. Federal and state law enforcement sources described it as a 9mm Glock outfitted with an extended magazine.

The shooter had another magazine at the ready, according to Joe Zamudio, who said he was one of the bystanders who pinned the gunman to the ground until police showed up.

Hearing the shooting, Daniel Hernandez, a trained nurse and a Giffords intern, rushed to see what happened and used his medical training to "apply pressure to the wound and keep her active and alert," said Arizona state Rep. Steve Farley. Hernandez was Farley's former campaign manager.

THE INVESTIGATION

Officials have not stated a motive for the shooting. The suspect was not talking and had invoked his right against self-incrimination, said Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.

At the direction of President Barack Obama, FBI Director Robert Mueller was headed to Arizona to help coordinate the investigation. The FBI is working jointly with local law enforcement. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona said it has about a dozen people working on the investigation.

The suspect was in federal custody early Sunday morning, said Jason Ogan, spokesman for the Pima County Sheriff's Department. As such, the suspect will not face a first appearance in court Sunday, Ogan said.

Authorities released a photo of a male between 40 and 50 years old who is "possibly associated with the suspect." The dark-haired man was last seen wearing blue jeans and a dark blue jacket, and was seen at the location where the shooting occurred.

Authorities did not know whether the person they sought actually had any connection with Jared Lee Loughner, a law enforcement source told CNN. Authorities have a piece of evidence that indicates this second individual was in close proximity to the store, the source said, but declined to elaborate.

That source also said authorities were seeking search warrants for a residence and for a vehicle in connection with the suspect in custody.

A law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said the Glock used in the shootings was purchased legally, but did not have the details when or where it was bought. The extended magazine used in the shooting was likely purchased separately and at a different time, the source said. The official said such a magazine does not automatically come with a weapons purchase and it would be extremely rare for them to be sold together in one purchase.

THE CONGRESSWOMAN

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, 40, was shot in the head and underwent surgery Saturday. Doctors were optimistic of her chances of surviving. "I'm about as optimistic as it can get in this situation," Dr. Peter Rhee of the University Medical Center said Saturday afternoon. He said the next 24 hours will be key for determining the extent of her recovery.

First elected in 2006, Giffords is serving her third term in Congress.

She narrowly beat Tea Party-backed Republican Jesse Kelly in the November midterm elections, garnering 49% to the latter's 47% of the votes.

Known as a "Blue Dog," or moderate, Democrat, Giffords was a key swing vote in last year's health care reform debate. She didn't make up her mind to vote for the legislation until the final days before the ultimate passing vote.

She is married to NASA astronaut Mark Kelly, a Navy captain who is scheduled to fly the April space shuttle mission to the international space station. She is the only U.S. representative with an active duty military spouse, according to her website.

She has no children but is stepmother to Kelly's two children, said Sylvia Lee, president of Pima County Community College in Tucson.

She had received threats in the past, Lee said. A glass panel at her Tucson office was shattered the day after the health care reform vote last year. Staffers suspected someone shot a pellet gun at the glass. At a town hall meeting, a gun fell out of a constituent's pocket. But Giffords' press secretary, C.J. Karamargin, said he was unaware of any recent threats against Giffords.

She generally voted with her party, but voted against the auto bailout bill and was one of 19 Democrats to vote against former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's bid to become the Democrats' minority leader after the midterm elections returned Republicans to power in the House.

She holds a master's degree in regional planning from Cornell University and a B.A. from Scripps College, where she was awarded a William Fulbright Scholarship to study for a year in Chihuahua, Mexico.

Before embarking on a political career, she worked for Price Waterhouse Coopers and served as chief executive officer and president of El Campo Tire, her family's business.

She then served in the Arizona Legislature from 2000 to 2005, where she was the youngest woman elected to the Arizona state Senate.

THE SUSPECTED GUNMAN

The suspect in the shooting is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old former community college student, according to an Arizona law enforcement source and a U.S. law enforcement source.

He railed against government "mind control" and illiteracy in online missives and had "kind of a troubled past," said Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.

He also had brushes with the law, the sheriff said without elaborating. "We understand that there have been law enforcement contacts with the individual where he made threats." Court records indicate he had been arrested for possession of drug paraphernalia in 2007, but the charge was dismissed.

Loughner dropped out of high school in 2006, after his junior year, said Tamara Crawley, a spokeswoman for the Marana United School District in suburban Tucson.

In 2008, he tried to enlist in the U.S. Army. The Army rejected him, and privacy laws keep the military from disclosing the reason, the service said in a statement to CNN.

He enrolled at Aztec Middle College, a partnership between Tucson schools and Pima Community College that helps high school dropouts transition to community colleges, the community college President Sylvia Lee told CNN.

He took classes at the college from 2005 until October 2010, but withdrew after five contacts with police "for classroom and library disruptions" at two campuses between February and September, the school said.

Loughner was suspended after authorities found a YouTube video in which he called the school "illegal according to the U.S. Constitution, and makes other claims," a college statement said. He quit during an October 4 meeting with his parents and school administrators, and a follow-up letter warned that to return, he had to present a doctor's note stating that "his presence at the College does not present a danger to himself or others."

– On his YouTube page, a list of his favorite books included both Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels' "The Communist Manifesto," along with works by George Orwell, Ray Bradbury, Ken Kesey, Herman Hesse, Ernest Hemingway, Plato and Aesop's fables.

"Good-bye friends," read a Saturday morning posting on Loughner's MySpace page, just hours before the shooting. "Dear friends ... Please don't be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven't talked to one person who is literate."

A December 30 posting read, "Dear Reader ... I'm searching. Today! With every concern, my shot is now ready for aim. The hunt, a mighty thought of mine."

Online, Loughner complained about the "second Constitution," a term legal scholars sometimes use to describe the post-Civil War amendments that ended slavery, extended the right to vote and required equal protection under the law. Its meaning to Loughner could not be clearly discerned.

In an apparent reference to Giffords' congressional district, he wrote in a December 15 video message on YouTube: "The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate - hilarious."

In the same message he wrote: "If I define terrorist then a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon. I define terrorist."

THE OTHER VICTIMS

In addition to the 12 people wounded in the shooting, the following six were killed:

John Roll, 63. A native of Pennsylvania, Roll was a federal judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona who had served the legal system for nearly 40 years. He began his career as a bailiff in Pima County Superior Court and rose to be chief judge for the District of Arizona, a position he held since 2006.

He received death threats two years ago after he ruled that a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against a rancher in the state could proceed. He had been assigned to hear the ethnic studies ban case out of Tucson that involves a new law banning certain ethnic studies programs in public schools, according to the lead attorney on the case, Richard Martinez. Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts called Roll's death a tragic loss.

Christina Taylor Greene, 9. She was born on September 11, 2001, according to CNN affiliate KVOA. Family members described her as "excited" about the political process, and said the desire to learn more about it had motivated her to go to the Gifford event, the affiliate said. Christina had just been elected to the student council at her school, the Arizona Republic reported. She died at a hospital, and not at the scene like the other five.

Gabe Zimmerman, 30. A Tucson native who was engaged to be married, Zimmerman was the director of community outreach for the congresswoman.

Dorwin Stoddard, 76. Dory, as his family calls him, was a retired construction worker, said Pastor Mike Nowak at Mount Avenue Church of Christ in Tucson. Witnesses told CNN that Stoddard tried to shield his wife, Mavy, was shot in the head and fell on her. The wife was shot three times in her legs; the bullets were removed and she is expected to make a full recovery.

Dorothy Morris, 76

Phyllis Scheck, 79

THE REACTION

Following the shootings, all legislation on the House schedule for the coming week was postponed, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said. The decision was made by leaders of both parties and means the House will not vote next week on the repeal of health care reform.

Although U.S. Capitol Police said there was no evidence of a broader threat involving federal officials, it has advised other members of Congress to take "reasonable and prudent precautions regarding their personal safety and security." The House sergeant at arms also said "it is essential" that lawmakers contact local police to register their home and office addresses.

Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villasenor said his department had secured the homes and offices of some unnamed federal officials as a "precautionary measure."

Rep. Chellie Pingree, D-Maine, said an incident like this could have a chilling effect on the frequent weekend listening sessions that many members of Congress have with their constituents.

– In Tucson, supporters gathered outside the University Medical Center, keeping vigil as family members waited with wounded loved ones inside. On the other side of the country, dozens of marchers braved subfreezing temperatures and gusty winds to gather on Capitol Hill for a candlelight vigil Saturday night.

QUOTES

President Barack Obama: "We do not yet have all the answers. What we do know is that such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society."

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer: "I am just heartbroken. Gabby is more than just a colleague, she is my friend. She has always been a noble public servant."

John Roberts, chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, on the death of one of the victims, Judge U.S. District Judge John Roll: "Chief Judge Roll's death is a somber reminder of the importance of the rule of law and the sacrifices of those who work to secure it."

U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi: "Congresswoman Giffords is a brilliant and courageous member of Congress, bringing to Washington the views of a new generation of national leaders. It is especially tragic that she was attacked as she was meeting with her constituents whom she serves with such dedication and distinction."

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio: "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society."

U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona: "I am horrified by the violent attack on Representative Gabrielle Giffords and many other innocent people by a wicked person who has no sense of justice or compassion.  ... Whoever did this, whatever their reason, they are a disgrace to Arizona, this country and the human race, and they deserve and will receive the contempt of all decent people and the strongest punishment of the law."

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin: "There is no place in our society or discourse for such senseless and unconscionable acts of violence."

THE RHETORIC

Officials have not stated a motive for the shooting.

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik used a nationally televised press conference to condemn the tone of political discourse in his state. He charged that public debate is now "vitriolic rhetoric," which has rendered Arizona "the mecca for prejudice and bigotry." Dupnik suggested that such rhetoric can have deadly consequences.

Last March, Giffords raised concerns about inflammatory rhetoric after her office was vandalized, and she cited how her name appeared on a website titled "Take back the 20" as part of a list originally issued by former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in March 2010 against vulnerable House Democrats.

The list, which named 20 House members who voted for health care reform, showed crosshairs over the contested Democratic districts.

At the time, Giffords responded to the map by saying on MSNBC that her long-serving colleagues had "never seen anything like it." "The thing is, the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district," Giffords said in March. "When people do that, they've got to realize there's consequences to that action."

A day after Giffords voted in favor of health care reform, a glass panel at her Tucson office was shattered.

At a town hall meeting, a gun fell out of a constituent's pocket.

Giffords' press secretary, C.J. Karamargin, said he was unaware of any recent threats against Giffords.



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  1. Roger

    the best thing to do with Jaredis hang him. Bring back public hangings. Let him walk up the 13 steps.and hang.

    January 10, 2011 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • DigitalLoneX

      @ Tony I'm not making excuses i was using video games/shows movies etc as examples of age old excuses used on people like this.

      I'm a canadian thats sick of people deflecting the issue on others and placingn the blame elsewhere then on the shooter himself, here we dont have capital punishment (i wish we did) and it's sad we dont because we have a nutcase here who plead insanity after slashing a kids throat to the point he beheaded the kid on a greyhound bus here, then displayed it in the windows after everyone evacuated the bus and he continued his stand off with the police.

      I'm sick of these murders being labelled on physiological conditions, bottom line is people are dead, what your parties argue about is like a bunch of kids on a playground in a sandbox.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  2. Dan Santos

    Can anyone get a list of all the companies that place ads on Fox? I think it is a great idea to contact each one and tell them that we will not ever buy their product. Fox does not deal well with the truth, but they will with lost revenue.

    January 10, 2011 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      It's a great idea. I think we should get the ball rolling on this.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • GPS

      Your idea sounds as deranged as Jared Loughner's thought patterns! I assume you are a friend of his then!

      January 10, 2011 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      yes, according to you, the shooter was trying to get the advertisers to drop their endorsements, right? Who are you kidding, right wing apologist?

      January 10, 2011 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  3. EMol

    I just cant believe that in your country Walmart sells ammnition, this is insane. What is going on, shame shame shame.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • DigitalLoneX

      they sell it over the counter at walmart here too (in canada) but we have gun registration laws and licences before anyone is allowed to handle guns or ammunition.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  4. GPS

    I said this Saturday, Sunday, and I'll repeat it today, all you freaks who are blaming Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and or Conservative TV and Radio, are as deranged in your thought processes and dangerous sounding as Jared Loughner! Forget the facts that are beginning to come out that this kid's parents are just as strange as their kid, and the environment that he was raised in most likely influenced him to take the actions he did!

    There has been no proof showing this kid listened to "Right Winged" hate radio or TV, or that he even was a Sarah Palin supporter! In fact in one of his videos on youtube, he burns an American flag! That kind of thing is more along the lines of what a Left Wing nut would do! Maybe some of you people here knew him or socialized with him! He seems to fit in more with you Lefties!

    January 10, 2011 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      _
      "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,' and the people - we the people - are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country."
      ~Michele Bachmann

      "I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."
      ~Sharon Angle

      "Our nation was founded on violence. The option is on the table. I don't think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms."
      ~Tea Party-backed Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden

      "I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out."
      ~Glenn Beck, May 17, 2005

      "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
      ~Ann Coulter

      "Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook ... Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate."
      ~Rush Limbaugh, Aug. 6, 2009

      "The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."
      ~Pat Robertson

      "We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals."
      ~Ann Coulter

      "I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."
      ~Rep. Virginia Foxx

      "He has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity."
      ~Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), on President Obama

      January 10, 2011 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  5. Allen Mason

    Law enforcement is looking for one or more accomplices to the terrorist. I have a few leads: Sarah Palin, Sharon Angle, FOX, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the Koch brothers.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • David C

      Apparently, you're a complete boob and can't see past your ideology to consider the FACTS! I know...facts are an inconvenient element for liberals:

      Here are some tweets collected from Twitter regarding WHO the shooter is and his background. This girl has been interviewed by Good Morning America and other media outlets. Her story is legit. So here are some direct quotes from Caitie Parker on Twitter who went to high school, college and was in a rock band with Jared Loughner:

      – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

      "I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific."

      "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

      "He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent'"

      "he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class"

      "we listened to political punk in high school & agreed with their leftist opinions for the most part Anti-Flag was our band."

      "well for the Bush/Kerry election we all wore "1 term president" buttons. That election was HUGE to us."

      "I'm merely stating how I remembered an old friend as he was when I saw him last, 3 years ago. I've make that clear."

      "The guy I knew 3 years ago isn't the evil he became today."

      "I haven't seen him in 3 years, but the guy I knew was a polar opposite of the evil he became today."

      "I never said anything about him being a Tea Partier, check your facts."

      – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

      I would find it hard to believe that such a committed and radical Leftist would swing 180 degrees to become a Tea Partier and/or a Sarah Palin follower in only 3 years. As an aside, Jared Loughner is an admitted atheist and lists The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf among his favorite books. Not exactly Tea Party material.

      January 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Tired

    Thanks for proving my point Tony and Gary. You are incapable of hearing anything but your own ideas....I'm VERY sure I've never been militant and that I have nothing to apologize for. I don't blame anyone for my actions and I don't think anyone has the right to blame others for their actions. Also, shouldn't we be concerned about who owns every news organization? Thanks, too, for the sheeple comment. Way to promote civility.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Your calls for civility is "day late and a dollar short"....and may I add, 8 lost lives late?

      January 10, 2011 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Gary

      Tired,
      And your point is? Or are you waiting to learn your slant? This is a spontaneous thread but you need to have the ability to think on your own & be concise

      January 10, 2011 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired

      Tony, are you saying it's too late for civility? It sounds like you are declaring war. Maybe you should add your name to this list of people who incite violence.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Gary

      More tired than you,
      Don't the police have the right to blame people for their actions you moron. Do us all a favor-educate yourself

      January 10, 2011 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired

      What I don't understand is the blame issue. Of course we have right to lay blame. But the blame for this shooting lands squarely in the lap of the shooter. It's irresponsible to start blaming outsiders to suit our personal agendas. Thanks, again.. If I disagree with you, I must be uneducated. Think again.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Tired, I am merely pointing out that YOUR CALLS FOR CIVILITY are late. Where were you during the November elections cycle when right wing hate stew was in style?

      January 10, 2011 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired

      And, what I was trying to say about blame is that just as I take responsibility for the things I do, others must not try to defer blame from themselves. By using right-wing rhetorical as an excuse for this shooting, you take blame away from the shooter.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired

      *rhetoric

      January 10, 2011 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired

      Are you again saying that it's too late to have a civil discussion in this country? Are you saying that it's time for action? Are you so angry that you want someone (other than the shooter) to pay for this tragedy? Bring out the pitchforks!

      January 10, 2011 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Not Tired of Spinning, huh? I am saying, try right wing politicians for sedition.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired

      Can you find me one news organization, outside of opinion pieces, that clearly states Jared Loughner had right-wing ideologies? It seems to me that you are the one who has found a political "spin" to this issue.

      January 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • David C

      From my perspective, TONY needs to be reported to the authorities for addition to a watch list. This guy is so off-base it's FRIGHTENING. Try digging up some FACTS, Tony. Oh, wait...that would only prove you WRONG!

      January 10, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Dan Santos

    I had to eliminate my cable for financial reasons last month so I don't have access to see who places ads on Fox. I can check their website and go from there. If anyone can name at least a few I will do what I can to contact these companies.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • GPS

      "I had to eliminate my cable for financial reasons" In other words, like a typical lazy liberal, who won't work for themselves, you want others to do your work for you!!! Are you Dan, one of Ed Shultz's 99ers!!!

      January 10, 2011 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Just read some of the comments on Faux News, you can tell there are some deeply disturbed people of their forum boards, sho can spring to action at any time.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      GPS, and you simply slander people and project your own insecurities on everyone here, in each of your posts. You maybe on a wrong website?

      January 10, 2011 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Punkass

      Tony, you're a hypocrite. All i've seen you do is slander Fox news a republicans. Seriously, if you werent so biased maybe you would know that Fox news employs more liberals/conservatives than CNN or any other news network and a good portion of the anchors are actually independants. lol you are so damn blind, brainwashed and ignorant its pathetic. Why dont you just stick to the subject and stop trying to make everyone about the "evil republicans".

      January 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Tell it here

      foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/10/arizona-massacre-prompts-political-cheap-shots/#content

      January 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • David C

      Tony, CNN is supposed to be a middle ground for RATIONAL people to get their news. I believe it is YOU who is on the wrong website. I think the web address you're looking for contains the letters MSNBC.

      January 10, 2011 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  8. jms

    A bit of reality here on what someone should have or could have done. I am a retired professor from a major university in Texas. Pima Communiy College actually violated the Privacy Act by conferring with Loughner's parents unless they had his express permission to do so. Students 17 or over are considered adults and have the civil riights as such. A professor, college or university can cause themselves considerable grief, including legal action, by intervening unless the subject has agreed to the intervention. Loughner's parents would have had to have gone to court to have him declared incompetent to commit him or force him into treatment. The interview you did with a psychiartrist who was so eager to tell everyone what they should have done about Loughner's deteriorating condition needs to be balanced with the reality of the fact that, in truth, there is very little one can do about a mentallly ill adult who refuses treatment. Jo Snider

    January 10, 2011 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • DigitalLoneX

      what about in situations where parents possibly paid the tuition?

      January 10, 2011 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      JMs, it's because the Consolidated Media is in a hurry to spin this as a "loner nutcase" story, as to protect their sister Faux News network and the like. Media companies have a stake in this as well, their "official" political affiliation is just a moniker. All media, inluding CNN, has blood on their hands now. They all failed to stop the right wing hate speech, and now are defending the right wingers by extension. They want us to think the shooter was nuts. Yeah, as nuts as the rest of the teabaggers who bring guns to political rallies or carry posters "I am unarmed, this time".

      January 10, 2011 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  9. publius enigma

    Id like to remind people that this person had the presence of mind to invoke his 5th amendment right to remain silent. It would be wrong to accept a limited investigation and a quick conclusion that he was just a nut job that acted alone.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  10. john page

    both sides need to realize there are unbalanced people who will take what they say literally

    January 10, 2011 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      but only one side calls to violence....
      "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,' and the people - we the people - are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country."
      ~Michele Bachmann

      "I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."
      ~Sharon Angle

      "Our nation was founded on violence. The option is on the table. I don't think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms."
      ~Tea Party-backed Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden

      "I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out."
      ~Glenn Beck, May 17, 2005

      "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
      ~Ann Coulter

      "Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook ... Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate."
      ~Rush Limbaugh, Aug. 6, 2009

      "The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."
      ~Pat Robertson

      "We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals."
      ~Ann Coulter

      "I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."
      ~Rep. Virginia Foxx

      "He has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity."
      ~Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), on President Obama

      January 10, 2011 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
  11. Mona

    This has Sarah Palin written all over it. Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, you have blood on your hands. You and the Tea Party/Republicians has out done yourselves. Stop the hate.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • David C

      Here are some tweets collected from Twitter regarding WHO the shooter is and his background. This girl has been interviewed by Good Morning America and other media outlets. Her story is legit. So here are some direct quotes from Caitie Parker on Twitter who went to high school, college and was in a band with Jared Loughner:

      – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

      "I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific."

      "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

      "He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent'"

      "he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class"

      "we listened to political punk in high school & agreed with their leftist opinions for the most part Anti-Flag was our band."

      "well for the Bush/Kerry election we all wore "1 term president" buttons. That election was HUGE to us."

      "I'm merely stating how I remembered an old friend as he was when I saw him last, 3 years ago. I've make that clear."

      "The guy I knew 3 years ago isn't the evil he became today."

      "I haven't seen him in 3 years, but the guy I knew was a polar opposite of the evil he became today."

      "I never said anything about him being a Tea Partier, check your facts."

      – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

      I would find it hard to believe that such a committed and radical Leftist would swing 180 degrees to become a Tea Partier and/or a Sarah Palin follower in only 3 years. As an aside, Jared Loughner is an admitted atheist and lists The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf among his favorite books. Not exactly Tea Party material.

      January 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
  12. PREDICTA

    Where was the outrage when far left lunatic Amy Bishop shot and killed faculty members at her school because she was denied tenure? Psychos exist on both sides of the political spectrum. Limiting free speech won't change that.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      That was not politically motivated. Quit apologizing for right wing hate. A day late and a dollar short.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  13. uisignorant

    I think it is funny the CNN censors will not allow a rebuttal of Tony.... Laughable.....

    January 10, 2011 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Rebuttal of me? Or the right wing hate? Or are you not sure? Lol...

      January 10, 2011 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
    • David C

      If you wish to rebut Tony, reply to the original post he replied to. You can only reply to an original post.

      January 10, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  14. uisignorant

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010

    January 10, 2011 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      go to this link if you like scatology. lol

      January 10, 2011 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • uisignorant

      You are RIGHT Tony. But the scat came out of the lefts' head.

      January 10, 2011 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      ...8 years ago....and did not kill anyone.....unlike the right wing hate and calls to violence....who motivate unhinged individuals....to carry out right wing agenda. Happy now?

      January 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  15. JTK

    I can't Believe that we have so many Idiots that They think Sarah had something to do with this. They must live in a different world then I. What should be said is that we pray for all of the Victims for them to recover.

    January 10, 2011 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
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