Libya live blog: U.S., Britain fired 159 Tomahawks since Saturday
A Libyan rebel ducks for cover behind a sand dune during a failed attempt to take the town of Ajdabiya from Gadhafi's forces Monday.
March 21st, 2011
01:00 AM ET

Libya live blog: U.S., Britain fired 159 Tomahawks since Saturday

The latest developments on the situation in Libya, where coalition forces launched a series of coordinated airstrikes on Saturday after they were convinced Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi was not adhering to a cease-fire mandated by the United Nations. Read our complete story and check out our full coverage on unrest in the Arab world. Also, don't miss a gripping, high-resolution gallery of images from Libya.

[11 p.m. Monday ET, 5 a.m. Tuesday in Libya] The United States fired 20 Tomahawk cruise missiles into Libya in the past 12 hours, a military spokeswoman said early Tuesday morning from the Mediterranean Sea. A total of 159 Tomahawks have been fired by the United States and the United Kingdom since an international coalition started Operation Odyssey Dawn on Saturday.

Cmdr. Monica Rousselow, a spokeswoman for the task force, also said one of the three U.S. submarines that participated at the beginning of the operation has since departed the area. She declined to say which submarine.

[8:59 p.m. Monday ET, 2:59 a.m. Tuesday in Libya] In a rare public spat, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev criticized his political mentor, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, for Putin's comments over the use of force against Libya.

Putin on Monday said the U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing a no-fly zone over Libya was "obviously incomplete and flawed." He added that it "resembles a medieval appeal for a crusade in which somebody calls upon somebody to go to a certain place and liberate it."

A few hours later Medvedev weighed in, scolding Putin's comments, without using the prime minister's name. "It is absolutely inexcusable to use expressions that, in effect, lead to a clash of civilizations - such as 'crusades,' and so on. That is unacceptable," Medvedev said.

[8:10 p.m. Monday ET, 2:10 a.m. Tuesday in Libya] CNN correspondent Nic Robertson has rejected a Fox News report that he and other journalists were used as human shields by the Libyan government to prevent a missile attack on Gadhafi's compound.

Libyan government officials brought CNN and other news crews to the compound to view a building that was damaged late Sunday in a coalition air strike. The Fox story, posted on the outlet's website Monday, says the journalists' presence forced a British aircraft to call off firing seven missiles at the area that already had been hit.

Robertson, who was part of the CNN crew cited in the Fox story, called the rival network's report "outrageous and hypocritical." Robertson said a Fox staffer was among the journalists on the trip - which was not mentioned in the Fox report - and that the journalists in the group were hurried through their trip by their minders.

"If they wanted to use us as human shields ... they would have kept us there longer," Robertson said. "That's not what happened."

[7:49 p.m. Monday ET, 1:49 a.m. Tuesday in Libya] More U.S. legislators are expressing concern about the country's involvement in the coalition military operation in Libya. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-District of Columbia, says the president is "stirring up a lot of controversy."

"We're not coordinating with the rebels. Are we going to leave them surrounded, and with the mercy of Gadhafi? I've never seen anything so confused in my life," Norton told CNN.

On the right, lawmakers are demanding the president better explain the U.S. mission in Libya to Congress and the American people, CNN's Dana Bash reports.

"The president should come home and call the Congress back into session and to make his case. He needs to define what the United States' vital mission is here, what is our vital interest, how does he see the potential cost unfolding here," said Rep. Candice Miller, R-Michigan, in an interview from her home district.

[6:32 p.m. Monday ET, 12:32 a.m. Tuesday in Libya] Frances Fragos Townsend, once President George W. Bush's chief counterterrorism adviser and now a CNN commentator, recalls her 2007 visit to the Gadhafi compound in Tripoli where coalition missiles heavily damaged a building on Sunday.

[5:25 p.m. Monday ET, 11:25 p.m. Monday in Libya] CNN's Ed Henry offers a deeper look at U.S. President Barack Obama's comments in Chile regarding Libya on Monday afternoon: Obama repeated Monday that Moammar Gadhafi "needs to go," but he acknowledged the Libyan dictator may remain in power for some time because the allied military mission in North Africa has a more narrow U.N. mandate of just protecting civilians.

Still, Obama noted: "I also have stated that it is U.S. policy that Gadhafi needs to go." Obama said he's still hopeful that other "tools" the administration has used, such as freezing billions in Libyan assets, will eventually help the Libyan people push Gadhafi out.

[5:10 p.m. Monday ET, 11:10 p.m. Monday in Libya] U.S. Sen. Mark Begich, D-Alaska, has expressed "apprehension" and "concerns" about U.S. involvement in Libya.

"Specifically, Congress needs to understand the risk involved to the lives of our service members, how long the administration anticipates U.S. involvement, the impact of our involvement on our other national security priorities like Afghanistan, and what the ultimate objective is," Begich, a member of the Senate's Armed Services Committee, said in a statement Monday.

[4:52 p.m. Monday ET, 10:52 p.m. Monday in Libya] U.S. Sen. Richard Lugar, who already had expressed concern about U.S. and allied air strikes in Libya, has amped up his criticism of the operation, saying "there are no guidelines for success."

In an interview set to air Monday on CNN's "John King, USA," Lugar, the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the operation has not been clearly defined.

"I do not understand the mission because as far as I can tell in the United States there is no mission and there are no guidelines for success," Lugar, R-Indiana, told CNN's John King. "That may well be true with our allies although conceivably they may have other missions in mind and simply try to get Security Council clearance to proceed."

[4:46 p.m. Monday ET, 10:46 p.m. Monday in Libya] Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's momentum has stopped and rebels have been able to hold onto areas that government forces had been poised to capture just a few days ago, a U.S. official said Monday.

However, an opposition spokesman said Gadhafi's forces have continued to fight in Mistata, the last city in western Libya under rebel control, despite the Libyan government's declaration of a cease-fire. "There is no cease-fire in Misrata," said Mohamed, who would not divulge his last name out of concern for his safety. "The destruction is unimaginable."

Late Monday, state television reported that Misrata was firmly in the hands of Libyan government forces.

[4:42 p.m. Monday ET, 10:42 p.m. Monday in Libya] The U.N. Security Council has decided to not take action Monday on Libya's request for an emergency meeting on attacks. Discussions will likely continue at a planned Thursday briefing on Libya by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon.

Libya's government is pressing for an end to what it calls an aggression against the country.

[4:08 p.m. Monday ET, 10:08 p.m. Monday in Libya] Oil prices surged in electronic trading Monday after coalition forces launched an attack on Libyan military targets over the weekend, CNNMoney reports.

The benchmark U.S. contract, West Texas Intermediate, gained as much as $2.28 to top $103 a barrel for April delivery. It later dropped back to settle $1.26 higher at $102.33 a barrel. The more active May contract jumped $1.24 to settle at $103.09 a barrel. It briefly topped $104 in earlier trading.

[3:47 p.m. Monday ET, 9:47 p.m. Monday in Libya] U.S. President Barack Obama is getting heat from a member of his own party regarding the military action in Libya.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, the seven-term liberal Democrat from Ohio who has twice run for the White House, says Obama committed an "impeachable offense" in deciding to authorize U.S. airstrikes over Libya Saturday without the consent of Congress.

"President Obama moved forward without Congress approving. He didn't have Congressional authorization, he has gone against the Constitution, and that's got to be said," Kucinich told the web site Raw Story on Monday. "It's not even disputable, this isn't even a close question."

[3:33 p.m. Monday ET, 9:33 p.m. Monday in Libya] Below is a video of CNN's Nic Robertson, reporting on explosions that he heard this afternoon in Tripoli. He says he heard at least two blasts, apparently coming from the direction of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's compound. Antu-aircraft gunfire followed the blast.

The new explosions come a day after a building in Gadhafi's compound was damaged in an apparent coalition airstrike.

[3:17 p.m. Monday ET, 9:17 p.m. Monday in Libya] Explosions were heard minutes ago in Tripoli, CNN's Nic Robertson reported.

Robertston, who is in Tripoli, said anti-aircraft gunfire has followed the explosions.

[3:08 p.m. Monday ET, 9:08 p.m. Monday in Libya] President Barack Obama, addressing the situation in Libya during a trip to Chile, told reporters that a condition for the United States to step back from leading the Libyan military mission is the disabling of Libya's air defenses. This is so that NATO allies and other coalition partners can effectively enforce a no-fly zone, he said.

"We anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days, not weeks," Obama said.

[2:58 p.m. Monday ET, 8:58 p.m. Monday in Libya] U.S. President Barack Obama, addressing the situation in Libya during a trip to Chile, said that "it is U.S. policy" that Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi "has to go."

Obama said the core principle of the military mission is that the international community "can't stand by with empty words" in the face of an imminent humanitarian catastrophe such as a leader using military force against his own people.

[1:45 p.m. Monday ET, 7:45 p.m. Monday in Libya] Four New York Times journalists who were reported captured by pro-government forces in Libya last week have been released and have arrived safely in Tunisia, the paper's Executive Editor Bill Keller said Monday in an e-mail obtained by CNN. "We're particularly indebted to the Government of Turkey, which intervened on our behalf to oversee the release of our journalists and bring them to Tunisia," Keller said in the e-mail which was sent to New York Times staff. "We were also assisted throughout the week by diplomats from the United States and United Kingdom."

[12:44 p.m. Monday ET, 6:44 p.m. Monday in Libya] There is no intent to destroy the Libyan military forces, Gen. Carter Ham, a top U.S. commander said Monday, but the coalition will strike against forces that are threatening or attacking civilians, he said.

[12:30 p.m. Monday ET, 6:30 p.m. Monday in Libya] The coalition flew 70 to 80 sorties over Libya on Monday, up from 60 on Sunday, said Gen. Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command. The United States flew fewer than half of the Monday missions and about half of the Sunday sorties, Ham said.

Canadian and Belgian air force planes flew for the first time Monday. "We are hopeful that other nations will continue to join us," Ham said. "Some have made very firm offers."

[12:26 p.m. Monday ET, 6:26 p.m. Monday in Libya] Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi may remain the leader of Libya after the coalition mission has ended, the commander of U.S. forces said Monday.

"I could see accomplishing the military mission which has been assigned to me and the current leader would remain the current leader," Gen. Carter F. Ham, commander, U.S. Africa Command, said. "Is that ideal? I don't think anyone would say that that is ideal, but I could envision that as a possible situation - at least for the current mission that I have."

[12:19 p.m. Monday ET, 6:19 p.m. Monday in Libya] Coalition strikes not designed to kill Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Gen. Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command, says.

[12:10 p.m. Monday ET, 6:10 p.m. Monday in Libya] There are no U.S. or coalition forces on the ground in Libya, Gen. Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command, says.

[12:05 p.m. Monday ET, 6:05 p.m. Monday in Libya] Coalition mission doesn't include protecting forces opposed to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Gen. Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command, said Monday.

[11:32 a.m. Monday ET, 5:32 p.m. Monday in Libya] Coalition members were still working out Monday how the ongoing of maintaining the no-fly zone over Libya would be commanded, U.S. officials said.

NATO could command the coalition's no-fly mission in Libya, but some Arab nations are hesitant to fly under a NATO banner, which has held up the move, said one official, who asked not to be identified due to the sensitivity of negotiations.

The coalition has 10 announced partners: Belgium, Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar, Spain and the United States.

[9:05 a.m. Monday ET, 3:05 p.m. Monday in Libya] The involvement of U.S. military aircraft in strikes on Libya has "plateaued," a spokesman for United States Africa Command says. The U.S. conducted missile strikes overnight, spokesman Vince Crowley said.

[8:23 a.m. Monday ET, 2:18 p.m. Monday in Libya] Four New York Times journalists who were reported captured by pro-government forces in Libya last week have been released and are in the Turkish Embassy in Tripoli, Turkey's ambassador to Libya, Levent Sahin Kaya, told CNN Monday. Read full story.

[7:18 a.m. Monday ET, 1:18 p.m. Monday in Libya] Oil prices surged more than $2 a barrel in electronic trading Monday after coalition forces launched an attack on Libyan military targets on Saturday. The benchmark U.S. contract, West Texas Intermediate, gained $2.11 to $103.18 a barrel for April delivery. The more active May contract jumped $2.21  to $104.06 a barrel.

[6:32 a.m. Monday ET, 12:32 p.m. Monday in Libya] The British Ministry of Defense said it halted a mission to attack a target in Libya because of information about civilians in the area.

"As the RAF GR4 Tornados moved into the area, further information came to light that identified a number of civilians within the intended target area," the ministry said in a statement Monday. "As a result the decision was taken not to launch weapons. This decision underlines the UK's commitment to the protection of civilians."

[6:02 a.m. Monday ET, 12:02 p.m. Monday in Libya] A witness in the Libyan city of Misrata reported "absolute destruction and carnage" by forces supporting leader Moammar Gadhafi on Monday - despite the regime's recent call for a cease-fire.

"Misrata is being flattened and razed to the ground as we speak," said the man, who was not identified safety reasons. "He (Gadhafi) is using tanks and snipers to terrorize the city."

He added, "They are shooting people in the main street and on the back street."

CNN could not independently confirm reports from Misrata early Monday.

[5:57 a.m. Monday ET, 11:57 a.m. Monday in Libya] A group of supporters of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi chanted "Down with the USA" and confronted UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon as he was leaving the Arab League buidling in Cairo on Monday, a UN spokesman said.

Spokesman Khawla Mattar said Ban was "fine" and "it was not a serious incident." "They were not chanting anti-UN slogans. They were probably just trying to send a message through the UN," he said.

[4:21 a.m. Monday ET, 10:21 a.m. Monday in Libya] The French government disputed claims of civilian deaths in Libya from recent airstrikes.

"There is no information of killed civilians recorded by the French command," French government spokesman Francois Baroin said on the French TV channel Canal+ Monday.

Libyan ruler Moammar Gadhafi's regime claimed that dozens of people - mostly women, children and clerics - have been killed in the international airstrikes that started Saturday.

"We must be cautious of communication campaigns and propaganda. ... This is a military operation and a communications campaign battle," Baroin said. "We have to trust what the international community is communicating."

[2:14 a.m. Monday ET, 8:14 a.m. Monday in Libya] U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said it would be "unwise" to set specific goals about targeting Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi directly during attacks.

"I think that it's important that we operate within the mandate of the U.N. Security Council resolution," Gates told reporters Sunday while on a plane to Russia. "If we start adding additional objectives, then I think we create a problem in that respect.  I also think that it is unwise to set as specific goals, things that you may or may not be able to achieve."

The Security Council resolution, which passed Thursday, allows member states "to take all necessary measures to protect civilians under threat of attack in the country ... while excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory," according to the United Nations.

[12:34 a.m. Monday ET, 6:34 a.m. Monday in Libya] A coalition military official has confirmed that Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's compound was targeted by airstrikes Sunday night. The compound was targeted, the official said, because it contains capabilities to exercise command and control over Libyan forces and the coalition goal is to degrade his military capabilities. Earlier, Western journalists, including CNN's Nic Robertson, were brought inside the compound to survey the destruction.

[10:51 p.m. Sunday ET, 4:51 a.m. Monday in Libya] An announced list of the countries participating in the military coalition: The United States, Belgium, Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar and Spain.

U.S. officials have said they plan to hand over operational control of the military mission in coming days.

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  1. Nabil Bugaighis

    I am a Libyan living abroad but I am merely passing on the will of the brave men and women fighting for their freedom in Libya . There is a reason they were jubilant when the UNSC Resolution 1973 was passed – and that must not be taken away by Amr Mussa, head of the Arab League and any other ignorant dogmatic person that would oppose the no fly zone.
    For all those who are standing up against the US , the UK , France ...you need to realize that the coalition forces have prevented a massacre – and for this we are grateful. It has been confirmed by those who saw the tanks and military equipment approaching Benghazi before French Rafales destroyed them, that there were enough resources to wipe out the whole of Eastern Libya, not just Benghazi . If any one has a doubt, look at Zawiya, Misrata, and Ajdabiya.
    Thank you to all who are participating in NFZ, the Libyan people will be forever grateful.
    Furthermore, the argument that foreign intervention will affect civilians is completely unfounded – the fact that it is used by Gaddafi on Libyan State TV should be enough of an indicator. They are the only ones to have reported civilian deaths as a result of foreign intervention – talk about a "hidden" agenda. The victims they are showing on TV are dragged to Tripoli from Misurata and other towns, where they have been assaulted by loyalist forces. The funerals on State TV show children holding their noses – a bit odd for a corpse which is supposed to have died hours before, no? Do not spread his propaganda!
    Witnesses have confirmed that the missiles fired by the coalition planes were so precise that they hit the tanks precisely in the middle, causing no civilian causalities.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Billy Bob Obama

    This is another example why Smartmeters should be banned

    March 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  3. American Citizen

    All US Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan – put your arms down and walk away. This president doesn't care at all about your lives and putting you deliberately at higher risk so that you can never leave those areas alive.

    The fraud story about the NY Times journalists being released – we still have a soldier held captive in Afghanistan that has been ignored for years – and that could happen to you. I'm not seeing any unbiased news reporting on this matter any more than Congress bringing jobs to your families so you have something to fight for when you return home.

    Put your guns down, get on that plane and come home. We'll find jobs for you – I guarantee it. Since my son is going soon – trust that I mean what I say – you put those guns down and come on home – no more war for you.

    I'm not going to watch another generation of young males in this nation be sent to their deaths for no reason – the US is NOT supportive of this – it is a panic attempt by Congress to keep their jobs in a hard economic time.

    Come on home.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  4. William J Earley

    Certainly the air war being waged against Moammar Gadhafi is in the hope that we kill him. Letting him ' live to fight another day' only to down another commercial airliner or continue killing people in the world community is certainly just for the press right?

    March 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lynda Mizze

      Does anyone know where the Arab support is? I have yet to hear about 1 Arab plan or 1 Arab soldier on the ground in Lybia. Sounds to me like US is not going to to have this (supposed) support area to count on anytime soon. ..

      March 21, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gabriel

      Everybody please help us in finding any information related to the 3 journalists from AFP and Getty images that have been missing since Friday night.

      "Two Agence France-Presse journalists are missing in Libya, where they were covering the conflict around the eastern city of Tobruk.
      Dave Clark, 38, and Roberto Schmidt, 45, said in an email to senior editors on Friday evening that they planned to travel early Saturday to a region around 30 kilometres from Tobruk in an attempt to meet opponents of the regime of Moamer Kadhafi and speak to refugees fleeing the fighting.

      Clark and Schmidt were accompanied by a photographer from the Getty Images agency, Joe Raedle. The three journalists have not been heard of since sending the email Friday night."

      March 21, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Butterfly

      Where are you, when you say we will kill him? Are you a soldier there? or you are in the comfort of your little home! Shame on you and people like you! You have no idea what Libyan people are going through because of this! Shame on US, France, UK and Obama with his darn Nobel Peace prize! It is all about oil control in the region!

      March 21, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Graeme Rodgers

      I guess the words "Never Again" are mealiness to most of the apathetic and ignorant. Obama uses forces to protect unarmed people from slaughter and you complain. Let us hope that you all receive more compassion in your time of need. I am proud of NATO, go get em!

      P.S.

      I am sitting, my chair is not very comfortable, but I am watching the sky, and will pick up a gun if so requested.

      March 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      Why is this hard to understand? Wait even another day and thousands die. It is like reacting to a crime you see on the street. Lugar would watch someone get beaten to death because he would not be clear on every step to help. Others would jump in to help and do the best they can step by step. Gadhavfi made us react before complete planning could be done, he was counting with being done with the killing before folks like Lugar could think thru a complete plan. I pray I am never in need with only someone like Lugar available to save me from certain death. You need to be greatful there are people that will drop what they are doing and take a risk to save lives...

      March 21, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      Why is this hard to understand? Wait even another day and thousands die. It is like reacting to a crime you see on the street. Lugar would watch someone get beaten to death because he would not be clear on every step to help. Others would jump in to help and do the best they can step by step. Gadhafi made us react before complete planning could be done, he was counting with being done with the killing before folks like Lugar could think thru a complete plan. I pray I am never in need with only someone like Lugar available to save me from certain death. You need to be greatful there are people that will drop what they are doing and take a risk to save lives...

      March 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      People who scream "shame on you" are just hilarious. Are you the same people who scream "rabble rabble rabble rabble" at large functions? Here's a tip, if you are going to "shame" someone it should be followed or preceded with an explanation of why you believe a "shame" is in order. Shame on you for not explaining your shame on you.

      March 21, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • branreed

      i concurred. Leaders of arab nations are all just talked..unless foreigned interventions sets in.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • branreed

      EXACTLY BILL.. BUT DEFINITELY WE DONT WANT ANOTHER IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN IN THE MAKING AND RISKED THOUSANDS OF LIVES ON BOTH SIDES.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Linda Williams

      I agree. The President had to do something. We could not stand by and see a crazed dictator kill his own people. I listened to the pleas coming out of Libya for help. These people were and are being murdered. I also am sorely disappointed in our Congress. These Senators should keep their personal feelings to theirselves and discuss any form of "Impeachment" between theirselves not broadcast it over the airwaves while our President is not here to present his facts. This is NOT a war. It is and always will be a "coalition" which was made by the U.N.. Those Senators who were "unable to clearly hear the meeting over the phone" I believe should have spoken up then. Isn't that what THEY are being paid for? He or she should have stopped the President THEN and said, "I'm sorry but I can not hear what is being said." Not try to C.Y.A. after the fact. Could it be that he or she was so involved in some other matter that they were not really listening? Then when they do find out what they had ALREADY been told, they want to start pointing a finger at someone else for their shortcomings. The damage these Senators are doing to our President and to our country by displaying disloyalty to our leader is disgraceful. I'd like to hear this read over CNN, maybe someone will THINK before they speak.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carla

      I am from Indiana and Senator Lugar is an embarrassment. Doesn't understand what we are trying to achieve? Help our NATO allies establish a no fly zone...stop Ghadaffi from air-striking his own citizens...let the Libyans have a chance to establish their own government instead of the 42 year rule of Ghadaffi...

      There. Does THAT help you understand Mr. Lugar?

      March 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • waterman

      Senator Lugar, You don't understand the mission because you are an old musty gray haired filthy rich republican who, because your party could not run in head long, guns blazing without Nato approval like your ignorant president would have done and you might have to get off your fat cat wallet and pay a couple bucks in taxes to pay for it. Get down of your cross, build a bridge, and get over it.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Tweetthis

    Jack nicholson's line(revised): This world needs an Enima !!

    March 21, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Skip Jefferson

    I am totally opposed to US involvement in what has to be considered a civil war in Libya. While I understand the dislike of the leader by many, if he were to fall there is no way that we would know what would take his place. It could be a better leader but it could also be much worse. It wasn't too far back that the Shah of Iran was allowed to fall in Iran and look what took his place; perhaps our biggest enemy in the Mideast.

    The United States nor any other country should be involved in this civil war because if the people choose to take up arms against the governement, they must face the consequences. Just think of our own civil war. What if England and France decided that the south was justified in waging battle against the north and joined in the battle against the north. Surely the course of history probably would have changed dramatically. If our own people took up arms against our own goverment, does anybody actually believe that our military would not be used to suppress the uprising. Civil war is a sovern act within a countries own borders and there is no way that foreign powers should act unless it threatens other friendly countries.

    It was our goal in Iraq to remove a dictator and look where we are today, we are still waging war after how many years. Are the people of Iraq any better off then when we stuck our nose in their business. We helped the rebels kick the Russians out of Afganistan and look what took their place. I don't need to go in to detail but now it is us involved in a long battle on foriegn soil. When will this country learn that there is no way that we are going to win any battle in a foreign land and to try to wage war is just ridiculous. Starting with Viet Nam, when is there a case where we have actually won a foreign war??

    Now that we have crippled the standing Army in Libya, lets just pray that if the evil dictator falls that whatever takes over the government will be friendly to the west. I would say the odds are stacked heavily against that.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      Skip, France DID intervene on our behalf in our fight to free ourselves from England.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • princesamuel

      Maybe you should actually read your history books about the Civil War before you start using it as an example. Other countries were involved, they just chose the north instead of the south.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan in Michigan

      I would like to answer one question you brought up – You asked if we've even won any wars since the Vietnam War, and the answer is yes and no. We won the Gulf War in the early 1990s, and we won the Balkan War in the late 1990s, but we didn't do so hot in the Somalian War in the mid 1990s. The mistake there was underestimating the enemy and not sending enough people or equipment to accomplish the job. Also, despite what anyone says, we did win the Iraqi War in the mid-late 2000s. We accomplished what we set out to do, which was dispose of a dictator who might have had the means and willingness to attack the United States. We simply didn't realize the efford needed for a rebuild of the country after all the stuff Saddam Hussein had done to it in the years since the Gulf War, and thus won the war but lost the rebuild (it's still more than most countries, which would leave the defeated in utter ruin). Currently, Afghanistan can neither be declared victory, nor defeat. Initially, it was victory, as the Taliban and Al Qaeda were run out of the government, but we failed to get Osama bin Ladin himself, and the Taliban were able to rebuild in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan and launch a counterattack while the Americans were distracted by the Iraqi War. With President Obama's new surge in troops, we've been able to beat the Taliban back again, but we're still fighting, so there's no clear answer as to whether or not we've "won."

      March 21, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • adam

      I'm not sure it gets much worse than a man that orders international terrorist attacks on civilians and bombs to be dropped on his own people. I realy don't think dictators get worse than this guy, they may be more powerful and therefore they can do more damage, but they do not get much worse. Why shouldn't the UN be able to say tyrants like this don't get to use their airforce, tanks and advanced war machinary against their population?

      March 21, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Corwin7

      You can't seriously compare tanks and gunship helecopters slaughtering peaceful protesters with a "civil war" can you? Well you must be a republican then. That's about the stance they take in the current "civil war" *the wealthy decmating the middle class and poor* isnt' it?

      March 21, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  7. EMERSE

    This crap makes no sense to me. We are going to go in and bomb this place ans leave the man in power? That would be stupid! I think there is much more behind all of it.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • adam

      we're taking away his big war toys. Do you think he should get to keep them?

      March 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Vermonter

    Ghaddafi s in a box. He retains his dictatorship or he is killed. Thus he will fight to the end. If the coalition did not intervene it's clear he would have killed his citizens who have learned from current technology what freedom is in most of the world and what they have been deprived of while their leader steals all oil profits for himself. Now, unfortunately, Ghaddafi and his family must be captured or killed very soon or we can be sure of terrorist strikes on Europe and the US funded by Ghaddafi. I'm sure the coalition knows this.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • cheryl

      Don't you think that a cornered animal (Gaddafi) would go to take the country's and the Libyan people's source of sustenance with him? I believe he has likely given direction for the country's oil fields to be destroyed such as Saddam Hussein did; and also causing another world catastrophe! I can just imagine that he is crazy enough to do such a thing–if he can't have it, neither will Libya or the Libyan people. He has already alluded to such a thing–is there no way t o stop this???
      Should not the Libiyan people be protecting their own resourses at this time?

      March 21, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Margaret Wells

      I realy HATE the circus that the media puts on....you haves to go to great lenghts to just get the real story these days. So much political posturing and distortion comes from punditry these days that it is no wonder that Americans are apathetic.
      I listened to all of the statements made by the Presdeint and the other leaders involved. I read real NEWS report for the last several weeks on this issue. This is just stupid when the stakes are so serious. Gadaffi was killing his own citizens, and threatened to kill a lot more. The Presdeint got the proper reolution from congress. The resolution called for just what was called for by the UN. The Presdeeint got support from the international community, including the Arab States. ENOUGH!
      I have NO dobt that our ground forces will NOT be involved, just like Obama said. Stop questioning the man. He has proved that he will do what he says, as long as the stupid congress doesn't go beserk (with help from our pathtic media).

      March 21, 2011 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
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  9. pensimmon

    I highly recommned reading the news website english.aljazeera (note no www.) for a middle east perspective on US activities. It's enlightening.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • John Roberson

      I Agree.. It had a bad reputation before I stated reading it.. They give it to you raw without spin..
      I guess all the negative crap coming from the previous administration.. And you then realize that they are not anti-anything.. they just report.. As a news organization should do..

      March 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • MarkB

      Agreed. AJ and BBC are my main news sources. CNN I guess is only watched my senior advertising executives.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • A Robinson

      Thank you for that tip. I was getting very frustrated with the stupid and insistant 'we dont understand US role' message on CNN. This has now spread from CNN to the politicians. Its nice to see some news reporters still doing their jobs, reporting the news without trying to create the news.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Derek

    After all is said and done. The Brits will slip a couple of forward observers (Special units) to train and equip them with weapons being brought in as humanity goods to take on Gadhafi troops. With air support by who every and cuise messiles flying about them will be beat back until the rebals get to Gadhafi. That's when the real war will start

    March 21, 2011 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  11. mitch

    Hey Wolf,,,get a grip eh!
    heres your sit-rep
    The tribe in Bengazi and the Tribe in Triploi don't like each other, never have and the Bengazi group watched what was happening in egypt and decided this was a good time for tribe leadership change and has conned you guys into believing them.. Think about the coutries involved with the Kadafy must go line..Canada,U.S France.Italy.Britian all have weak leaders who are seeking a stronger mandate from their people and have now in effect backed a tribal war and are
    sponsering state terrorism by going after Kadafy,,something they all deny,just like the british genberal who with a smile on his face sayes they are not allowed to do that and won't comment further
    O-bama is going after Kadafy and is sposering something Jimmy outlawed so many years ago
    So start reporting it
    that' your sit-rep wolf and it's true

    March 21, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Margaret Wells

      Where is your proof? Sounds like spin to me.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Ted A. Morell

    To Libya or Not to Libya?
    By
    Ted A. Morell
    tedamorell@hotmail.com
    (417) 741-7799 Home/Fax

    Introduction
    This is a personal reaction to the Libya crisis and it is not politically motivated in any way.

    To Libya or Not to Libya?
    Just as a reminder. This is a personal view on Mr. Obama’s choice to confront Libya. No one is holding a gun to my head to write these words, nor is my family under threat of being killed if I write these words. I guess that means I live in a free country where freedom of speech is supposed to be available to all. Please tell me if that is not how we do it here in the United States. Rioters in the streets asking for change in a country where oppression is rampant and the leadership of the country is threatened and asked to step down. The first thing the leader does is to send in troops, police, and hired guns to disperse the crowd. Someone throws a rock, guns fired, and the rioters are killed and the survivors are forced to run. (Rutgers, 1967).
    In Libya the riots started peaceful enough and the leadership expressed the opinion that he was not going to step down. He called in the troops, police, and other enforcement. Rocks thrown, guns fired, and civilians wanting the change killed. The only difference between 1967 and today is that Libya did not stop killing the protestors. They bombed entire villages, cities and shot anyone that was opposing the leader. Libya had a great role model as the United States went through the same thing in the past. In the 1930’s Hitler modeled his efforts after the United States. (Review, 2004).
    Mr. Obama made the decision to keep civilians and protestors safer from persecution, mainly death by Libya. Kaddafi wants them all dead no other solution is available. Even if the rioters were to completely give in they would disappear one-by-one and never be seen again. That is the Kaddafi way. If the United States stands by and lets that happen we may as well give the United States back to the Indians, Native Americans, that we stole it from and go home. (Ted A. Morell, 2011).
    The news is claiming that this is the same as Iraq and Bush. There are some differences between Iraq and Libya.
    1. Iraq
    a. Was not involved in 911
    b. People were trading in the streets and actually smiling.
    c. Insurgents only went into Iraq after Bush bombed and opened the borders. This let in the insurgents and caused many American casualties.
    d. Should have waited until Binladen was captured or dead then the world would have been behind him on Iraq.
    2. Libya
    a. Killing the rioters once, it found they were not going to go away.
    b. Killed civilians that were watching and not participating.
    c. Air strikes against the rioters who had started to fight back.
    d. Was going to surround the remaining protestors and kill all of them if the United States had not started the no-fly zone.
    In conclusion, I believe that Mr. Obama has done the right thing and if I could, I would go help out right now. Everyone that opposes needs to look at our history as well as the history of Libya. If you do not like the United States, go to Libya, Afghanistan, or Iraq and protest the Muslims. Do not cause problems over here where we cannot control their religion. We are a free country and have ethics and morals to follow. Think before you act! (Ted A. Morell, 2011).

    References
    Rutgers, 1967, Detroit Riots, retrieved from http://www.67riots.rutgers.edu/d_index.htm
    German Studies Review, 2004, Adolf Hitler vs. Henry Ford, retrieved from http://www.jstor.org/pss/1433081

    March 21, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • TeaPartyHawk

      Seriously Ted, I was wondering how the anti-war,Bush hating,peaceful Liberals were going to spin Obama's involvement in the Libyan civil war.Let me start by reminding you that Obama was given the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, and since he openly stated that military use of force was in no way effective at ending civil unrest in a foreign contry, the pressures of not appearing to be a hypocrite must be spinning in his supporters stomaches. Having said THAT, let me say THIS...Here is what I would like to see now.'

      1 Dailey reports on all the Liberal news outlets showing civilian deaths and current bodycounts.

      2 Open and blunt calls for the flow of transparent information on what Obama knew and when did he knew it.

      3 A "cost of war" tickertape brodcasted on any and all media.

      4 Protesters (Code Pink)outside the Obama whitehouse asking why we attacked a nation that never attacked us,and asking why we are attacking innocent civilian goat hearders.

      5 A clearly stated short term and long term war and exit strategy.

      6 Proof of Congressional approval. (Bush had it)

      6 Proof that the UN had given even ONE prior resolution in writting (Bush had 14 of them) calling for an end to the slaughter of civilians and military action against the people of Libya.

      7 An investigation into who has given the U.S. miitary support with NO BID CONTRACTS

      Im sure the Bush critics will get on these and if not......you could always say its about promoting Gay Rights since the repeal of DADT. I can see it now....Gay soliders dropping (kinder) bombs on Muslums side by side with straight soliders. See..they work well together. I could go on and on but I think you get my point.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Graeme Rodgers

      Until Obama suffers a major terrorist attack on the home land, loses a major American city, raises gas prices above $4for 7 years, starts 2 wars with out and end game and destroys the world economy, all republicans should shut up about his leadership record. Seriously, Bush was a Republican made catastrophe.

      March 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • wonderwall

      HawK: As a member of the UN Security Counsel, you should already understand that the United States is obligated to follow those rulings. Which is the reason why we participate in the no-fly zone in Libya.

      Under the Charter, all Members of the United Nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council. While other organs of the United Nations make recommendations to Governments, the Council alone has the power to take decisions which Member States are obligated under the Charter to carry out.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  13. parkmore

    Again sham on you Obama. I am very disappointed that you were not able to come up with alternative strategy. I am also disappointed that the little stupid sarkozy convinced you to go kill innocent people. I am also very disappointed that NIH and education budget was cut. Who will pay for it? I hope you and only you.

    March 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sue

      I agree. Also would like to know why our president is off on another photo opt trip .this presidency seems to be just a series of photo opsand no leadership.very disappointed.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • norm

      DISAGREE COMPLETELY TO YOU AND SUE.

      IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL EFFORT WITH OVER 12 COUNTRIES PARTICIPATING, TO PROTECT
      LIBYAN CIVILIANS AND STOP NUTCASE GADAFI FROM COMMITTING A GENOCIDE.

      YOU HAVE THE WRONG PERSPECTIVE .... WE ARE THERE TO SAVE INNOCENT LIVES...

      THESE OPPRESSIVE REGIMES SUCH AS LIBYA AND IRAN NEEDED TO BE SHOWN HOW
      CIVILIZED NATION BEHAVE.... GADAFI AND ALSO AHMEDINIJAD DO NOT KNOW HOW TO
      BEHAVE AND WANT TO KILL EVERYONE WHO OPPOSE THEM... WELL THAT IS OVER

      THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY SAYS ...ENOUGH!!!!! READ AND GET SMART!!!!

      March 21, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • adam

      Ya, how dare he take away all those destructive war toys. I suppose you want him to give them back now.

      March 21, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott from NH

      Oh come on! You can't be for W's clearly illegal war (the UN voted it down twice) which killed 1 million people over WMD that didn't exist at a cost of over $30,000 per American family and the destruction of our economy and then sit there with a straight face and tell me, that you are upset that we are killing people when we are clearly saving more lives than killing (very much the opposite of Iraq) or that you are now suddenly concerned about a small and very limited military operation when you never cared about the $2T+ that Iraq will cost.

      March 21, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • TeaFarters

      All people should realize that a country is in chaos and people have been dying.

      I just hope that this miserable situation should not be used as way to push political motive and agendas.

      March 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Sercy

    I don't get one thing:
    It's OK to strike the Libyan military but when these fundamentalist rebels attack one town or the other, the coalition stands down? How come? Shouldn't the UN and this shameful coalition try to stop any attacks coming from either side?

    March 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • norm

      YOU JUSTDONT GET IT , DO YOU?

      THE REBELS WANT DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM,

      NUTCASE ...GADAFI IS A THUG AND HAS ENSLAVED THE LIBYAN NATION...

      READ YOUR HISTORY AND BOOKS AND GET SMART!!!!

      March 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Graeme Rodgers

      I am feeling your frustration Norm, they just don't care about these people I think. Let us hope they receive more help in their time of need. Maybe this will clarify it for them: Gadhafi = Lunatic Bad Man, Rebels = poor, tired, huddled masses longing to be free...

      March 21, 2011 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • adam

      the rebels are not using airforces and tanks to flatten the cities...that's a BIG difference.

      March 21, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Josh Nienhuis

    It's great to see all these allies chipping in. Canada (my country) has 6 CF-18s that escorted bombers today. Glad we can take some of the weight too, not really fair US gets the blame for everything in the Arab world. We love you Americans and we've got your backs for life. Glad there are no ground forces there, Canada might lose our tank (non-plural) LOL! Keep up the awesome work USA, in the West we all know this is the right move, it would be a bloodbath if we didn't intervene. God Bless and hope everyone keeps safe.

    March 21, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark kavanaugh

      Canada's one tank... Now that's funny.. Hey, if you ever want the thaw out, come to sunny California; just bring some of those hot Canadian girls with you.....

      March 22, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
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