Exchange of the Day: "All Obama has to do to make this all go away is produce a birth certificate. It shouldn't be that tough. Why hasn't he?"– TRoublerunt
"The Health Department of the State of Hawaii (and then Republican governor) certified that he was born there. What exactly do you want as proof? The long-form birth certificate that Hawaii and several other states don't issue?"– LivinginVA
Arizona passes bill that makes presidential hopefuls prove citizenship
Federal law requires that presidential candidates be natural-born American citizens. For Arizona legislators, however, this is not enough. They have passed a bill requiring that all presidential candidates – including President Obama – prove their citizenship before they are placed on that state's ballot. The measure has not yet been signed by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican. Many CNN.com readers said the bill was really about racism.
Suhgarim said, "The only politician I've ever seen proof of being born in the US is Barack Obama; perhaps we should kick all the others out until they can prove where they were born. I am white and I am sick, sick, sick of this racism! Because that's just what it is. I've never seen a white candidate go through this. A plague and a curse on America for our stupidity! And a double plague and curse on conservatives and Republicans!"
kathyrants said, "In my entire lifetime, I have never known of a president who had to go through so much just to prove he is eligible for the presidency. I have also not seen so much disrespect for the president. Let's get with it America. Let's worry about more important things. Let our President do what he needs to do to get us back on track. I too am white and very tired of hearing about this. He is black; he is the president, so shut up, sit down and have another beer!"
Some readers questioned the use of taxpayer money to push the bill. Ghurst said, "So why did Carl Seel introduce a bill for a law that already exists? As a public servant, shouldn't he be mindful of how he spends his time and the people's money? If my boss caught me wasting my time and his money on something that is not needed, I would get fired."
BigOtto said, "We have truly become the laughing stock of the world."
Muslim beauty contestant faces critics on all sides, she says
Model Shanna Bukhari hopes to win the British Miss Universe contest this year and represent Britain at the international contest. Her presence in the beauty contest has upset all kinds of people: among them, some Muslims who think she is not religious enough and some U.K. citizens who think she shouldn't be allowed to represent a "white" country.
The story had some CNN.com readers discussing how Islam views women. Alberto said, "As a Muslim, I say to Shanna: All the power to you, girl! Go for it. Don't let the idiots get to you. You are beautiful, created by the same God that has created this universe. There is no place for religious zealots to have a say in what you're doing, only you and your heart.”
fgf said, "Ignore these stupid people, Shanna. I'm a Muslim girl – do whatever you want. Those laws to cover up had cultural relevance in Saudi Arabia 1400+ years ago. They don’t apply today."
Husain said, "Allah did not want women to be our equals. Women are inherently inferior and subservient to men. They must be covered to keep them from entering into sin and causing a man to do so. They are put here to bring forth children and give pleasure to their husbands."
Billy Ryan replied, "Husain, You must come into the light. Women are equals in every way, Don't be left behind in another century, Join ours. It's much better."
KBaus said, "Husain, what does the Quran say about family and the mother? Does it say that family is at the feet of the mother? Does not it say to treat your mother with the highest respect? Saying that women are inherently inferior clearly states that your mother is inferior to you. That is not what Quran say. How is it that Jesus is one of the four most important prophets of Islam yet he taught peace and love, not hate and inequality? Are you a true Muslim or one who hijacks Islam for its own evil purpose?"
BiH said, "Dear Husain, as a Muslim women, I have the privilege to believe and practice the religion of Islam. I support the young lady; she is proving that women in Islam are equal to any other women in other religions. Now is the time for Muslim men to start respecting your sisters, wife, daughters. How many Muslim women are suffering because of the egoism of man? Don’t anyone dare to judge the women; we will all one day be standing in front of our creator, Inshallah."
'All My Children,' 'One Life to Live' canceled
For more than 40 years, TV viewers have been able to tune in to the much-loved life stories portrayed on "All My Children" and "One Life to Live." By January 2012 those stories will end, ABC announced, to be replaced with shows about food and lifestyle.
Many CNN.com readers shared how tuning in to those shows powerfully linked them to memories of loved ones. Kelly said, "I grew up watching 'All My Children' with my grandmother. I still watch till this day and I'm also hooked on OLTL and GH. These shows are as American as apple pie."
Tamzilla said, "One of my fondest memories is watching AMC with my mom over dinner! I bought my first VCR just to record AMC. Now that I'm disabled I DVR them both everyday. If they do away with both these I will never watch ABC again!"
Jerbear said, "This is a sad day. I am a 35-year old male (not gay) who watched OLTL/General Hospital religiously when I was young every day with my grandma. I became hooked. I still tune in if I have the chance, just for the nostalgia."
Others explained how the shows relieved the stress in their own lives and swore they would turn off ABC forever. Sherry said, "Everyday I drive home for lunch just so I can watch 'All My Children,' and have had this same routine for the past 11 years. At least for an hour a day I was able to get lost in somebody else's world and leave my problems behind. I definitely will not be watching a food reality show. ABC has lost this viewer."
But others said the soaps had lived past their prime. When Andagain said, "Oh no! I stopped watching AMC 25 years ago when I had to go to work. Whatever happened to Erica Kane?!!" John replied, "You're wondering why they're canceling these shows? For one, even you stopped watching a quarter-century ago."
Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.
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Not an issue... OBAMA IS ONE AND DONE.
Most of the birthers also rant about "state's rights". So... here's an easy fix.
Does Hawaii recognize the Certificate of Live Birth as the equivalent of a birth certificate for legal purposes? If so, then case closed!
The State of Hawaii establishes what is considered an acceptable proof for babies born in that state.
No they don't. I lived there and they do not accept a COLB in place of a birth certificate.
It looks like Jim Crow (or Jaime Cuervo) is alive and well in Arizona. This is just like the obstacles that were placed in the way of black voters in the south like proper ID, I.Q. tests, etc., anything to discourage minorities from taking part in the democratic process. They say it's not about racism, but Donald Trump stated that "There's something on his birth certificate he (Obama) doesn't want us to see.." hinting it may state his religion as Muslim. His birth in Hawaii, Muslim or no, still makes him eligible to be president. Anything else is to label him as a foreigner in the eyes of white America. This is definitely about racism, but not against the people you think.
Requiring persons to present "proper I.D." to cast a ballot is "racist"? really? how so?
Mr. Brown – I think you are being obtuse. But here goes... requiring an ID has been used in the past as an obstacle (one of many) to deny blacks a vote. And then you can make it hard to get an ID in order to double down on the obstruction. Now for me a better question might be to ask whether requiring an ID is really a burden in this day and age. However I believe the sticking issue is that the courts have ruled that IDs could be a mandatory requirement only if you made them free to obtain.
Unless an ID is free, it is unconsti-tutional to require a citizen to get one to vote. When someone has to make the decision "Do I buy an ID so I can vote, or do I feed my family for a week?" then it is unconsti-tutional (qualifies as a poll tax). It is a disenfranchisement of the poor and has been used to disenfranchise minorities in the past – the reason the Poll Tax amendment exists in the first place.
Guess they will have to kick out all the laws that the pigrams made and so forth none of those people were born here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only the navie americans should have the rights to make laws LOL. I mean for real how can you make a declaration of independence when you dont belong in the USA anyhow. LOL
CNN,is the one bringing race to the whole issue,if McCain was president i think the same thing would have happened from the left about his birth certificate.CNN keep saying they are in the middle,but they are the new mouthpiece for the Democrats.I don't think John King would have call it race it a black man asked for McCain's bc,use to like CNN when they were in the middle,now they so desperate for ratings and they are now promoting the DNC.
McCain did produce a birth certificate. He was born in Panama on a US military base. What a sec...he is white. He doesn't need to show his birth certificate.
Of course this is about race. Let's be clear here – there are still people in this country who cannot stand the idea of a black man being president, and they will do everything they can to discredit him. That would even be true for me, I suppose – someone who was born in a state that was one of the original 13 Colonies AND for whom both birth and marriage are an easily accessible matter of public record. Never mind that there are plenty of people who know me, some racist redneck would try to discredit my citizenship. It's sad.
I'm not a birther but it is starting to seem a bit strange that they don't just show the original birth certificate. The computer generated form above didn't exist in '61 and isn't even acceptable to renew one's driver's license. There is always a birth certificate with full details of both parents and the doctor's signature, others born around that time in Hawaii have them. I wish they would just produce it and shut these guys up once and for all.
There is also issues with his social security number. It was issued in Connecticut. There is more to this story but most people here wouldn't believe it.
Lie and more lies from both of you. Not only that really lazy lies that anyone with google can disprove.
Why is no questioning our VP if he was born in the united States. I want all politician, congress, senate any and all that work in the White House or on the hill to produce a birth certifiate. Include the Lobbyist, all staff. In oder to get a pass port we need one. Don't forget State and Local politicians as well. Lets settle it.
actually, only the pres is required...naturalized citizens can serve as members of congress or senate...now lets go eat some rodekill....i think illegals can too but they have to steal someones ss# first.
OK, HI is a state, HI has said it is a legal B/C. Therefore this is a non-issue.
But, why is it anytime anyone challenges Obama on anything, it automatically becomes a racial issue?
John Mccain, was not born in the U.S., he was born in Panama. His citizenship has never been questioned. WHY! Because he is one of the GOOD OLE BOYS! He is accepted because he is white. The senator from AZ, is never questioned about his citizenship while the Black President is questioned daily. RACISM IS ALIVE, WELL AND THRIVING HERE
Pure racism.
PURE IGNORANCE
Insisting on the enforcement of existing laws = racism. Hmmmm, great logic.
You reduce anything done to make it sound stupid. Unfortunately when you do that you also look stupid.
No law has been broken here. That's the point you birthers don't seem to get.
LIVINGINVA posts that the Governor of Hawaii is a Republican, that just shows how the
liberals lie to further their beliefs. I'm not sure that Hawaii has had anyone but Democraps as Governor, I actually believe that Massachusetts is more conservative then Hawaii. I just loved the way Governor Abercrombie made the statement that HE WOULD GET AND SHOW obama's birth certificate and then issued a second statement that he couldn't because of Hawaii's laws. More lies on top of lies! I guess all this makes me a racist, man am I glad!
They are talking about Linda Lingle who was a Republican and Governor of Hawaii from 2002-2010.
The last 2-term governor was Republican (Linda Lingle) and so:
(a) your insulting text makes you look like an id10t
(b) this Republican governor (born in St Louis, MO) has confirmed his birth
(c) even with the Internet at your fingertips you can't be bothered to get the facts right or let the facts get in the way of your prejudices
If you asked me to show you my birth certificate and I showed you my certificate of live birth instead, you would not be satisfied. You would think I'm trying to hide something.
No I wouldn't.
No I wouldn't
I would consider it fine. The only one I have says "Certificate of Live Birth" on it. That's all my state issues.
The answer is, you people prove he was not born in the United States and if he wasn't, his mother was. so what then. Just like many others like Mccain,
Seems the racists are up earlier, maybe lack of sleep makes them that way
. As I scrolled down it became more like a public opinion not a roast.
I really don't know why everyone gets sooooo fired up about this. ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS!!!!! If you think there is a magic politician fairy that is going to save us from all of our problems then you are very naive. Both parties say what the base wants to hear and then they do whatever they want. Have you ever noticed that the problems never get solved? Obama aint gonna save us. Romney aint gonna save us. McCain, Pelosi.....they are all in it for NUMERO UNO! Until you realize that then you are going to keep having heartburn...now wheres them grits.