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Overheard on CNN.com: Arizona 'birther bill' about racism?
April 15th, 2011
05:51 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Arizona 'birther bill' about racism?

Exchange of the Day: "All Obama has to do to make this all go away is produce a birth certificate. It shouldn't be that tough. Why hasn't he?"– TRoublerunt

"The Health Department of the State of Hawaii (and then Republican governor) certified that he was born there. What exactly do you want as proof? The long-form birth certificate that Hawaii and several other states don't issue?"– LivinginVA

Arizona passes bill that makes presidential hopefuls prove citizenship

Federal law requires that presidential candidates be natural-born American citizens. For Arizona legislators, however, this is not enough. They have passed a bill requiring that all presidential candidates including President Obama prove their citizenship before they are placed on that state's ballot. The measure has not yet been signed by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican. Many CNN.com readers said the bill was really about racism.

Suhgarim said, "The only politician I've ever seen proof of being born in the US is Barack Obama; perhaps we should kick all the others out until they can prove where they were born. I am white and I am sick, sick, sick of this racism! Because that's just what it is. I've never seen a white candidate go through this. A plague and a curse on America for our stupidity! And a double plague and curse on conservatives and Republicans!"

kathyrants said, "In my entire lifetime, I have never known of a president who had to go through so much just to prove he is eligible for the presidency. I have also not seen so much disrespect for the president. Let's get with it America. Let's worry about more important things. Let our President do what he needs to do to get us back on track. I too am white and very tired of hearing about this. He is black; he is the president, so shut up, sit down and have another beer!"

Some readers questioned the use of taxpayer money to push the bill. Ghurst said, "So why did Carl Seel introduce a bill for a law that already exists? As a public servant, shouldn't he be mindful of how he spends his time and the people's money? If my boss caught me wasting my time and his money on something that is not needed, I would get fired."

BigOtto said, "We have truly become the laughing stock of the world."

Muslim beauty contestant faces critics on all sides, she says

Model Shanna Bukhari hopes to win the British Miss Universe contest this year and represent Britain at the international contest. Her presence in the beauty contest has upset all kinds of people: among them, some Muslims who think she is not religious enough and some U.K. citizens who think she shouldn't be allowed to represent a "white" country.

The story had some CNN.com readers discussing how Islam views women.  Alberto said, "As a Muslim, I say to Shanna: All the power to you, girl! Go for it. Don't let the idiots get to you. You are beautiful, created by the same God that has created this universe. There is no place for religious zealots to have a say in what you're doing, only you and your heart.”

fgf said, "Ignore these stupid people, Shanna. I'm a Muslim girl do whatever you want. Those laws to cover up had cultural relevance in Saudi Arabia 1400+ years ago. They don’t apply today."

Husain said, "Allah did not want women to be our equals. Women are inherently inferior and subservient to men. They must be covered to keep them from entering into sin and causing a man to do so. They are put here to bring forth children and give pleasure to their husbands."

Billy Ryan replied, "Husain, You must come into the light. Women are equals in every way, Don't be left behind in another century, Join ours. It's much better."

KBaus said, "Husain, what does the Quran say about family and the mother? Does it say that family is at the feet of the mother? Does not it say to treat your mother with the highest respect? Saying that women are inherently inferior clearly states that your mother is inferior to you. That is not what Quran say. How is it that Jesus is one of the four most important prophets of Islam yet he taught peace and love, not hate and inequality? Are you a true Muslim or one who hijacks Islam for its own evil purpose?"

BiH said, "Dear Husain, as a Muslim women, I have the privilege to believe and practice the religion of Islam. I support the young lady; she is proving that women in Islam are equal to any other women in other religions. Now is the time for Muslim men to start respecting your sisters, wife, daughters. How many Muslim women are suffering because of the egoism of man? Don’t anyone dare to judge the women; we will all one day be standing in front of our creator, Inshallah."

'All My Children,' 'One Life to Live' canceled

For more than 40 years, TV viewers have been able to tune in to the much-loved life stories portrayed on "All My Children" and "One Life to Live." By January 2012 those stories will end, ABC announced, to be replaced with shows about food and lifestyle.

Many CNN.com readers shared how tuning in to those shows powerfully linked them to memories of loved ones. Kelly said, "I grew up watching 'All My Children' with my grandmother. I still watch till this day and I'm also hooked on OLTL and GH. These shows are as American as apple pie."

Tamzilla said, "One of my fondest memories is watching AMC with my mom over dinner! I bought my first VCR just to record AMC. Now that I'm disabled I DVR them both everyday. If they do away with both these I will never watch ABC again!"

Jerbear said, "This is a sad day. I am a 35-year old male (not gay) who watched OLTL/General Hospital religiously when I was young every day with my grandma. I became hooked. I still tune in if I have the chance, just for the nostalgia."

Others explained how the shows relieved the stress in their own lives and swore they would turn off ABC forever.  Sherry said, "Everyday I drive home for lunch just so I can watch 'All My Children,' and have had this same routine for the past 11 years. At least for an hour a day I was able to get lost in somebody else's world and leave my problems behind. I definitely will not be watching a food reality show. ABC has lost this viewer."

But others said the soaps had lived past their prime. When Andagain said, "Oh no! I stopped watching AMC 25 years ago when I had to go to work. Whatever happened to Erica Kane?!!" John replied, "You're wondering why they're canceling these shows? For one, even you stopped watching a quarter-century ago."

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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  1. Kevin

    It is all about racism. Look at the people in the republician party WHITE and mostly white men. They cannot stand that a black man is higher than them

    April 16, 2011 at 8:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. calvin

    All presidents have bad comments or not all will like. No matter what President Obama does-good or bad-he gets hammered. It basically boils down tho the fact that He is a Black President. Racism played a part in getting the birther bill. Arizona has been a thorn in the country's side since He became President. The Governor of Arizona is a racist and promotes hate. Proof with the illegal immigrants as well. The united states could really be a Better country if it wasn't so focused on Hate, Bigotry and Making the rich richer! Take God out of the Picture and this is why America is becoming less and less a Blessed Country!!! When one who hates another because of color, race & religion can grasps that God made us all and loves us all. That no one person(s) is better than anyone else. Hating period is the attribute of the devil. GOD HELP US ALL

    April 16, 2011 at 8:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
  3. Big Game James

    Don't show anybody. Don't respond to insults. Let the ignorant stay in the dark. That old addage is true: A black man with an education is a white man's worst nightmare. This is why we were not allowed to read or write!! Fu(k all of you dumb, toothless, retatarded, ass backward, internet klan mother fu(kers!! Racism will stop when some more old white racists take that old dirt nap. The intelligent rational whites are outnumbered by their inbred brethren. The president is definitely smarter than all of the idiot posters on this blog asking HIM to prove someting to THEM. I enjoy waking up in America because I know I was blessed with another day of life and that somewhere some neanderthal lummox of a white guy is mad because Barack is still the commander-in-chief! The funny thing the options to replace him are two reality show stars. Looks like I'll have the oppurtunity for good mornings until 2016!

    April 16, 2011 at 9:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
  4. pelon

    We need to continue the boycott of Arizona. Racism in this state has gone Wild. God forgive Arizonians.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • billybobguntotinidiot

      i conclude racism as well....it couldn't be anything else...I always conclude racism first before analyzing any problem. I find it is the easiest position to defend because if anyone disagrees then I can just call them a racist for disagreeing.

      April 16, 2011 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Ronald Hussein Reagan

      Rather than being a bunch of ignorant racist hillbillies – the way the Liberal Media portrays them – the birther movement is actually motivated by more epistemological concerns – daring – much like Rene Descartes – to ask the difficult questions about the nature of human existence and the limits of what is ultimately verifiable in this cold, lonely universe we all find ourselves in.

      April 16, 2011 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  5. Shamgar50

    TeaBigots/Republicans, doing what comes naturally, to them.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:16 am | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Reel

    I never saw a birther that was not white. I think that pretty much proves the racisim angle.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Willa

    Politicians are always trying to prey on the rest of us. I myself, have requested a birth certificate on two occasions and received a copy (never the original). Were it not for my own experience, I too would expect someone to produce an original birth certificate. Politicians know this and use it to their advantage. By demanding that President Obama produce the 'original' (something that is impossible) they can dupe many people (who aren't aware of the facts) into believing that President Obama is hiding something.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. John

    If the President was white and his was something like Tom Smith , the birther thing wouldn't be going on and Arizona wouldn't have pass this law. It all about RACIST and the Republican are doing everything they can because they know they have nobody that can beat him. And we all know the GOV. of Arizona Is RACIST , Just look at the other bills she has sign.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. 21st Century Amerika

    Interesting how all of you sycophants of the present occupant of the white house will raise the issue of race whenever his policies or motives are brought into question. It's a tired and rather transparent technique. And frankly one which diminishes YOUR credibilty. You're the same group of kool aid drinking sheep that somehow feel this particular (third) war in a Muslim country is a just war, while our equally idiotic and failed engagements both in Iraq and Afghanistan were unjust. You're ideologically driven blindness is staggering. Wake up, you idiots. Your country is sinking into oblivion. While you're at it learn some Mandarin. You'll find in a few years it will be even more useful to know than Spanish. Fools.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • billybobguntotinidiot

      i believe they should be learning cantonese...

      April 16, 2011 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
    • 21st Century Amerika

      Either one will suit them better than English....

      April 16, 2011 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  10. Glenn

    Don't make this about race. It's about the law! I think it's a joke that people keep pushing this birther thing, but it's even a bigger joke (and a far more dangerous one) to call this racism!

    April 16, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. Big Game James

    @Glenn why are all the Birthers white?

    April 16, 2011 at 9:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • billybobguntotinidiot

      that seems to be a very broad generalization. leftys shouldn't generalize. it doesn't jive with the 'intellectual' position they are trying to take. you need to get an adequate and accurate sample first. then you can generalize all you want!

      April 16, 2011 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
  12. Sean

    kathyrants said, "I have also not seen so much disrespect for the president."

    Thats got the be the funniest thing I have read in a long time.. Apparently kathyrants has never heard of George Bush.. Deserved or not, no president has ever been disrespected as much as he has.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
  13. Cati

    It is, always has been, and always will be about racism. Period! What about the statement "The State of Hawaii issues Certificates of Live Birth not Birth Certificates". Semantics, but maybe those "birther" folks can't/won't get it. Birth Certificate/ Certificate of Live Birth. Same/same. Stillbirths need not apply for either. Birthers you are as dumb as a box of rocks – not smart like a fox.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • billybobguntotinidiot

      when cati has the time she makes a rhyme...a true sign of intelligence.

      April 16, 2011 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  14. Big Game James

    @Sean I don't remember him being called a liar in open congress. I don't remember his birth being questioned.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
  15. shankar

    So what if you lost a birth cert? What will you get instead? There should be some proof before you get a copy. Just move along He was not born on Mars. If you have problems just ask the native American ( REAL ) what they had to endure putting up with the palefaces.

    April 16, 2011 at 9:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
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