July 1st, 2011
04:31 PM ET

Michigan ban on considering race in college admissions struck down

A divided federal appeals court has struck down Michigan's ban on consideration of race and gender in college admissions.

The issue is likely to renew the national political and legal debate over affirmative action, which the Supreme Court could be poised to resolve in coming months.

The 6th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals on Friday concluded in a 2-1 ruling that the voter-approved ban on "preferential treatment" at state colleges and universities was unconstitutional, and "alters Michigan's political structure by impermissibly burdening racial minorities."

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  1. nojustice

    The greatest feat the devil ever accomplished, was to convince the world he didn't exist. Affirmative action stays.

    July 1, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Jashwua

    yea u may just be right cuz when it comes to messing people over the whites have that hands down....do you really think there would be a america if was not for the asians, africans, mexicans, native americas etc etc????and maybe white our smarter than blacks evan tho the majority of inventions for modern living came from black inventors...but do you really think whites are smarter than the asians?????

    July 1, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • LoganWon

      Put the crack pipe down. Blacks have never invented anything worth a damn. Start naming anything a black has invented.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • The_Watcher_In_The_Woods

      Maybe you should do a simple search online for "Inventions by African Americans" before you post an idiotic comment. In fact, if you type in "Inventions by", Google will auto-suggest "African Americans" for you.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • okie

      That is a tough one, how much time do we get????

      July 1, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jus

      A black man an a Jewish dude teamed up to create refrigeration units for major transport such as trucks.
      This is fairly moronic discussion board.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • jason

      Yeah cause blacks have it so great in Africa, don't they? Why, out of the dozens of countries on that continent are they all slums, and why don't they always flock to the US and Europe to live? They bring crime, illiteracy, welfare dependency and complaints with them wherever they go, all the while living off the backs of their civilized white hosts.

      Asians are slightly smarter on average in math, but not verbal ability. There they are less intelligent slightly, and they are not as creative.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Google it yourself idiot. You obviosuly will be surprised.

      July 2, 2011 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Santa Claus

      Oh... I just know from you that English is the only language in the world... Thx for the info

      July 4, 2011 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Doops

      So, what are a few of these inventions you're talking about?

      July 1, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • jason

      Yes, I do think that there would be an America if there were no minorities here. The real question is: do you think there would be an America without white people? The answer is obvious. Without white people in the US, America would be a mirror reflection of the cess pool that is Africa, no doubt about it.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jashwua

      So basically your saying that you would definetly go kiill all the "native americans" to make this land american right????

      July 1, 2011 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • swin

      What?

      July 1, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Functioning Lunatic

      Smarter than the Asians ... Russians are White, AND Asian.

      Get over yourselves already. You want race to be the pinnacle, just like if I'm from a specific tribe, I'm a slave, but if I'm from a different tribe, I'm part of Government. Tribal blood feuds are normal for some cultures.

      July 1, 2011 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Kat

    we never should have brought those people over... biggest mistake EVER!

    July 1, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
  4. jason

    You're exactly right. That is why they fail consistently on firefighter tests, police tests, sat scores, iq tests, act, vocational tests. It is consistent across the board. There is also a direct correlation between the average iq of a society and their level of advancement. Africa is living in the stone age– you would think that if they were as smart as whites, there would be at least some out of the many countries on that continent who are industrialized. Yet, there aren't any, except S Africa where whites made it thriving under apartheid. Now that that is ended, it is falling apart fast. On the same token, look at all the white countries in the world. Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Us, they are the most advanced. In fact, so much so that all the blacks and other minorites from all over the world flock to live in them, and the white population carries their weight and absorbs the costs associated with having them. They can thank whites for inventing the cell phone, radio, tv, car, plane and train as well as medical advancments that have improved life in Africa.

    July 1, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • nojustice

      Once you have stolen most all countries resources, you should be able create a hell of an economy!

      July 1, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • a sad day for us all

      yup, can't think of a single successful black entrepreneur.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Ryan

    "the majority of inventions came from black inventors"

    LOL

    July 1, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • hugo

      such as kool-aid

      July 1, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mbrady

      well if you mean welfare, slavery (your peoples sold your other peoples), and (c)rap music, then yea, you may be correct

      July 1, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • eleven inches of loving here 4 any white chick

      waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
      lmgdmfao!
      name 5 inventions by blackies that have benefited mainstream society!
      and no! pro sports is not an invention!

      July 1, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • eleven inches of loving here 4 any white chick

      blackie deserve to be doing menial jobs
      they are dumber than whites
      sad but true fact
      look at their faces-look like monkeys

      July 1, 2011 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Brown People Are Dumb

    Silly brown people. Thinking they can take advantage forever.
    Hah!

    July 1, 2011 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  7. LoganWon

    I teach at the University level also: and I totally agree with some previous posts. Most minorities are not capable of being educated nearly as fast as their Asian / White counterparts. This not a racial statement; it is however the truth.

    July 1, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Is it because of they are black/hispanic or because they come from a disadvantaged background?

      July 1, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • China Man

      We need to send you back to Asia MR.China Man you are full of it. Asians are nothing more than a plague that steal people's ideas and technology because they are incapable of inventing anything themselves. Asians lack the ability to invent this has been proven over and over again.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Edward

      I completely agree with you. Statistics show that white and Asian students achieve much higher test scores in reading, math, and the sciences than other races. It makes no sense for a white or Asian student who has achieved so much to be discriminated against in favor of someone from another race who has achieved less.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • arduck

      Is your's an absolute statement? If so, you need more education or perhaps a lot more cultural exposure..

      July 1, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • hez123

      This isn't a matter of race but IMO a matter of family. Strong families promote/encourage education. It is deemed valuable. My Chinese friends/associates seem to have a definite inclination toward pushing their kids' education

      July 1, 2011 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • maggy519

      YES, that most definitely IS a racist comment. In fact, I would say it is the perfect illustration of racism. congratulations. How could you possible be educated and have such bigoted views?

      July 1, 2011 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • j0nx

      Whites and Asians are smarter than Blacks and Hispanics as a general rule but they are more athletic than Whites and Asians. It all equals out. Not racist. Fact.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • MCA

      "It makes no sense for a white or Asian student who has achieved so much to be discriminated against"

      So lets just discriminate against black or hispanic students because they won't perform quite as well, even though college degrees hardly even give you an advantage in the job market anymore. GOT IT. And to this original poster, yes, it's racist to claim that race is the only reason white and asians perform better. I'd really love to have more info on the supposed 'test subjects' you base your findings on.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • LoganWon

      There are a lot of studies suggesting that people with darker skin are dumber. The darker your skin the dumber you are it's just a fact.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Mark

    Oh yeah, racism against whites in college wont cause a society problem, nope....
    Are blacks and liberals TRYING to get a new KKK made? All this racism is doing is fueling more racism which will lead to more violence.
    "You aren't allowed to attend this college because you are white and we want a black"
    Yeah, that isn't going to start problems... Are you kidding me?

    July 1, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • pedestrian

      Please don't blame white racism and the KKK on black people. Nobody is forced to be racist or to commit acts of terrorism like the KKK did.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • maggy519

      That makes no sense. People are responsible for theirr own speech and actions.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Functioning Lunatic

      Maggy,

      You are responsible for your speech if you are racially appropriate for the speech being stated, otherwise it is a hate crime. You are responsible for your actions as long as your actions are consistent with the politically correct allowable racial prejudice compensations allowed for the race.

      Freedom of speech, just watch what you say or I'll have you charged with a hate crime, even if you heard me saying it!!!

      July 1, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
  9. nojustice

    Racism is nothing without power. Discrimination is prejudice couple with power. Discrimination was the reason for affirmative action. It was implemented to right hundreds of years of discrimination. So after forty or so years I guess to you that's enough huh?

    July 1, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
  10. lgny

    OK, here's the reality.... Son of rich white alumnus with a generous donation history and graduation from an elite prep school gives the student an easy slide into the freshman class even if the grades are mediocre and the other credentials are uninspiring. That's OK, because that's what has been going on for years - the "old buddy system."

    Hard working black or Hispanic student from a public school in a run down neighborhood with very good grades and enthusiasm squeaks in past the Admissions board. That's evil "affirmative action"!

    Good schools have learned to cast their net more broadly, looking for strong students from undistinguished schools in poorer neighborhoods. With financial aid and some coaching, they often become successful students.

    July 1, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Edward

      Yeah, because all white students are the children of millionaires. Forget the child of a poor farmer who earned a 4.0 GPA, did extra-curriculars, worked a night job, and the whole smash, but ended up being rejected by some university with affirmative action that chose to accept a black or Hispanic student with a 3.2 GPA who did not much else in the meantime.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • earpstorch

      "Hard working black or Hispanic student from a public school in a run down neighborhood with very good grades and enthusiasm squeaks in past the Admissions board. That's evil 'affirmative action!'"

      No, you misunderstand.

      What we're talking about here is letting in people in spite of their low test scores to boost the number of the "under represented."

      Instead of helping to combat racism, it encourages it. A group targeted for affirmative action will have to contend with the now TRUE assertion that, on average, their scores and achievements weren't good enough to make it in on their own.

      Requirements should be the same regardless of race. It shouldn't even be a box you have to fill out on an application.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • pedestrian

      Edward, do you have a particular student in mind? Because your hallucinations don't match reality very well. Mediocre black students aren't chosen over stellar white students who have overcome adversity. It simply doesn't work that way. Some black and hispanic students with middling grades might be chosen over white students who ALSO have middling grades. But your hard-working white farmer may be given a special exception even WITH mediocre grades if he can show that he added something to the student body.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  11. BlackGuy

    Thank you Pete, I guess you know all black people, just so u know you just helped disprove your claims...keep up the blind fold

    July 1, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
  12. OnOffUpInHur

    Sorry white people, but we are taking over. If you don't like it, move back to Europe.

    July 1, 2011 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Edward

      This sounds really familiar. You are just a troll who uses a variety of names on this website. Fail.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Yeah that's why most of your race is on welfare and lives in the ghetto. Sure signs of a race "taking over"

      LOL

      July 1, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • maggy519

      YOU..are really a bigoted white person. No minority would say that kind of thing.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Functioning Lunatic

      I would if there was a place in Europe that I was from.

      After five generations here, there are several countries that I am descended from ... all European, and all white, but I can't say if one is more appropriate than another one. Do you have a formula that 5 generations of white people from different white countries in and around Europe to determine which one to go back to?

      July 1, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Newo

    Genuine question:
    are there any studies/research/data that describes the results of affirmative action at the University level? Do the kids usually do well once they get into the school, or do the majority end up dropping out. How does their success once they get there compare to their White/Asian counterparts? Just curious -any one know?

    July 1, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Functioning Lunatic

      It is politically incorrect to compile those results. It is illegal to present those results. It is a HATE CRIME to publish those results. You would be hunted down, ostracized, jailed, and all your work would be considered heretic for even stating that question.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Edward

    If this really goes through, the University of Michigan system can count on many potential students leaving the state to study elsewhere to protest the reverse discrimination, as has already been done in the past. In time, the U of M system will really come to regret the decision once they figure out nobody besides some minorities want to study in their universities. Once those students go to study elsewhere, there is a good chance they will also end up working in those other states, which will benefit those states, and harm Michigan's economy. Overall, it is a socially and economically stupid decision that lacks in common sense.

    July 1, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Functioning Lunatic

      Money.cnn.com has articles on the mass exodus from the state of Michigan. This does not have any relation to policy, it has to do with lost tax revenue, and the collapse of the Education.

      Follow the money, just don't speak of it or the AACP will hunt you down.

      July 1, 2011 at 7:04 pm | Report abuse |
  15. thank you

    i graduated from columbia university a few years ago, and i was in several classes filled with primarily black people. i was astounded by the low caliber of the class relative to the other classes i was in, and was simply dismayed with the way the professor completely overlooked the laziness of all of the black students who spent their time during class chatting with friends on gchat and facebook, while the rest of us white students worked incredibly hard. i wanted my money's worth given the exorbitatnt tuition i was paying, and sadly, i didn't always get that thanks to the blacks and affirmative action destroying the integrity of the once-sacred classroom.

    July 1, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • nojustice

      Who paid for that?

      July 1, 2011 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • pedestrian

      I am dismayed that such a poor writer was admitted to Columbia, white or black. You should have worked harder.

      July 1, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
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