Overheard on CNN.com: Beyond frustrated with debt stalemate
July 26th, 2011
11:51 AM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Beyond frustrated with debt stalemate

As debt ceiling talks continue, last night both sides presented reasons for a stalled solution. President Barack Obama called the political showdown "no way to run the greatest country on Earth" while House Speaker John Boehner insisted that excessive government spending is the root cause of America's financial problems and that expenditure cuts are the only solution.

Based on their comments, CNN.com readers are frustrated by the deadlock and many blame Republicans and House Speaker Boehner for not being willing to compromise.

Comment of the morning:

“It's looking to me kinda like grandma won't get her SS check because we invaded Iraq needlessly. That's pretty hard to swallow.” - ArooMadazda

Where’s the compromise?

Here's what else our readers had to say on the issue:

MasterJ51503 said, “Other than surrendering himself for impeachment, President Obama has given the Republican party EVERYTHING they desire. This is about as much compromise from Democratic leadership I have seen in decades, and the Republicans un-willingness to strike a deal on such circumstances that favor them tremendously only shows their true agenda: they want to paint Obama as a "failure.”

aahawks said, “No matter which side you are on, the President said one important word: "Compromise." From what I see, Obama is willing to make cuts and meet in the middle. The Republicans are not willing to meet in the middle. It’s their way or no way. Compromise is how we get things done.”

TorukMakto said, “Can we get the approval ratings for Boehner? I thought Bush was bad, but I have never seen a politician so openly threaten to let the U.S. economy get destroyed as long as the wealthy and corporations continue to enjoy the Bush TAX CUT.”

adamThegr8 said, “Obama speaks to you. Bohner speaks at you.”

Samuel27 said, “Boehner's speech boiled down to ‘Do what I say, and no one gets hurt!’”

TryLogic said, “Hey, Boehner: It's not a blank check. It's a debt ceiling increase, which has happened 74 times since 1962. And it's for exactly $2.4 trillion. Stop holding our nation hostage with politics.”

TheRealist20 said, “Boehner chooses to make extra cuts to Medicare and Social Security so he can preserve tax CUTS that were supposed to expire anyway, for the wealthiest 2 percent of the population. What a total slime ball.

Switters02 said, “Boehner cannot get his 'plan' passed by the House – 39 Republican Representatives have SIGNED A PLEDGE not to vote for it. Priceless.......”

anonyname said, “Remember, Speaker Boehner, if you break, it you own it. While you try to blackmail the President to keep millionaires and billionaires from paying more taxes, you are in GRAVE danger of being the guy who places the last straw that craters our economy. Do you want to be remembered forever as the guy who did that?”

Guest responded, “It's the President who doesn't UNDERSTAND the economy. He has NO background to be in the position as the President. It's showing BIG time here.

zzbbe said, “For some strange reason Boehner is determined to reelect Obama. His performance last night must have been worth many million votes for the Democrats.”

ihantotta said, “Poor Boehner. He looked so pathetic. He had to get up in front of the whole country and tell us that his party won't lift a finger for the common man.”

Truthwins101 responded, “Any sane person listening to Boehner last night would never be able to vote for Obama again in a million years. If you pull the lever for Obama in 2012 it speaks VOLUMES about your lack of mental capacity.”

brianguy123 said, “Obama's speech rambles about the year 2000, teachers, firefighters and corporate jets, none of which have anything to do with the issues at hand. The guy is from Pluto. He is not living in the real world.”

CorruptUS said, “If I had to choose right now between the plans presented last night. Hands down would I choose the one Obama was pushing.”

apaige said, “President Obama explained the debt ceiling crisis in everyday language to many Americans who didn't understand how serious this situation has become. He asked for balance and compromise while Boehner spent his time attacking the President. More importantly, the President told the country how a small cult of extremists have taken over the government and produced this very dangerous and unnecessary stalemate.”

ChefCHEESE said, “I watched President on TV last night and I think his plan makes 100% sense. The Republicans are an arrogant bunch of people who act as if they are still in power. I hope the voters will realize that and given them a real beating in election in 2012.”

gman90210 said, “Obama is openly lying to you. 'Tax the millionaires and billionaires'. Then in the same speech the plan is to tax 250k+, which is closer to zero than a million. Democrats can't understand simple math, blindly following a clueless leader who only cares to kick the can down the street to get past the next election instead of solving real problems.”

BobnLA said, “What is sad is that the President has to ask people to get involved in their own future. Getting a phone number or email address for any politician is simple- Google them. The real problem? Most Americans don't know who their representatives are!”

fiskenmann said, “Contact your lawmakers? Sorry, Mr. President, our lawmakers in South Dakota do not respond to voters unless you give them a check!!!”

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  1. JOSH HENRY

    AS A REPUBLICAN, I MUST SAY THIS UNYIELDING, STUPID BIG BUSINESS APPROACH BY THE REPUBLICANS DOESN'T ADD UP. TO PIN ALL THE PROBLEMS ON OBAMA IS PLAIN HYPOCRISY. BUSH RAN UP THE DEPT AND ROSE THE DEBT CEILNG MANY TIMES- WHERE WAS BOENHER AND CANTOR THEN?

    July 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • scepticalsammie

      Thank you!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Ron Frey

    These elected officials are running our country into the ground... simple enough remove them all how ever it takes get them out of office.. They are not listening to the people anyway they are all on their own agendas the President will be one term and these guys and gals arguing and keeping the country on its side should all go with him.. Vote them out and lets get a fresh group in there starting from the head on down.. This isnt working and its not all Obamas fault either but they wont work with him either so all of them need to go period.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • DB402L

      No one but a Republican is going to run against Obama in 2012. Are you suggesting that we vote for a Republican.....after what they've proven their agenda is....just to "vote them all out"? Sounds nice & makes you feel better, this "Vote them all out" mantra. Not so good once you think it through.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Richard zoesch

    Half of the Republican Congressmen are controlled by the Tea Baggers. The Tea Baggers at most account for 25% of the electorate. Which means 25% of the people are dictating what happens to this country. Republicans should remember that after this display of lack of statesmanship, that 75% of the electorate may be looking for someone interested in the welfare of the whole country.
    One question for the Tea Baggers–"Why do some poor and lower middle class people [Tea Baggers} vote rich??

    July 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  4. howard strickland

    I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO BE MENTION ALL ACROSS THE MEDIA I AM NOT
    SPEAKING FOR MYSELF I AM SPEAKING FOR AMERICA AND HOW EACH AND
    EVERYONE OF US ARE FEELING THIS EXTREMELY BAD ECONOMY. FIRST OF ALL WE
    GOT NOW 3,600 POST OFFICE BEING SHUT DOWN AND THAT MEAN MORE PEOPLE
    GETTING LAID OFF THIS IS AMERICA AND AMERICA IS FALLING APART FAST AND
    FURIOUS AND IT NOT STO PPING WE GOT FOOD PRICES RISING NEVER IN MY
    LIFE SEEN A GALLON OF ICE CREAM THAT WAS 5.00 FEW WEEKS AGO AND NOW IT
    10.00 AND WOW COFFEE WAS 6-7.00 AND NOW IT 14.00 AND THE GAS PRICE
    WAS GOING DOWN AND NOW IT GOING RIGHT BACK TO 4.00 AND OIL PRICE BACK
    TO 100 A BARROW PEOPLE CANNOT EVEN DRIVE BECAUSE THEY LAID OFF AND
    CANNOT AFFORD THE GAS OUR ECONOMY IS WEAK AND WE CANNOT AFFORD THIS
    HIGH PRICES MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION IS LAID OFF AND NO
    JOBS AND NO MONEY PEOPLE ARE NOW HOMELESS AND ARE NOW DYING BECAUSE OF
    NO JOB AND NO MONEY AND THESE PRICES ARE RISING FAST THIS IS AMERICA
    PEOPLE AMERICA IS STRONG AND GOD WILLING AND NOT DEVIL WILLING AND
    RIGHT NOW THE RICH AND GREEDY PEOPLE ARE DOING DEVIL WILLING AND IS
    STEADLY KILLING AMERICA WHAT ARE WE ARE WE AT THE END OF THE WORLD OR
    WHAT US AMERICA PEOPLE GOT TO GET TOGETHER AND HELP GET AMERICA BACK
    TOGETHER AND STOP THIS FIGHTING AND STOP DEALING WITH OTHER BULL STUFF
    WHEN OUR JOB AND ECONOMY IS DEAD RIGHT NOW AMERICA IS FALLING APART
    FAST AND FURIOUS I AM 26 YRS OLD I WAS WORKING AT GUSTAFSON FARM HAD
    GOOD JOB AND GOT LAID OFF BECAUSE THEY WAS LOOSING CUSTOMERS I BEEN
    THERE FOR NEARLY 3 YRS AND GOT LAID OF 5 MONTH AGO AND CANNOT FIND NO
    OTHER JOB IT DEAD AND IF THIS DEBT PLAN DO NOT PASS THEN MORE AMERICA
    WILL HAVE NO MONEY AND I WILL GET NO UNEMPLOYMENT CHECK AND LOOSE MY
    TRUCK AND BE HOMELESS LIKE EVERY AMERICA PEOPLE ARE DOING WE HAVE TO
    STOP AND THINK AND HELP GROW AMERICA BACK TOGETHER OR ELSE AMERICA IS
    OVER PEOPLE ARE NOW DYING BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD DOCTORS ANOTHER
    THING WE HAVE TO END THE WAR THAT BUSH PUT US IN WE ARE SPENDING
    MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BLOW UP TANKS AND NOTHING BEING DOWN IN AMERICA
    NO JOBS BEING MADE AND MONEY BEING LOST AND ALSO WE NEED OUR OWN
    AMERICA JOBS AS WELL RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON AMERICA JOBS
    AND ECONOMY AND NO OTHER STUFF OUT THERE WE ARE AMERICA WE ARE STRONG
    AND WE ARE GOD WILLING AND NOT THE DEVIL WILLING WE ARE STRONGER THEN
    THIS WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND GET THIS FIX I AM ASKING ALL AMERICA
    PEOPLE TO GROUP TOGETHER AND HELP BUILD THIS BACK TO AMERICA AGAIN MY
    GRANDMA IS 90 YRS OLD SHE IN GOOD SHAPE OTHER THEN STOMACH PROBLEMS
    SHE GET OUT AND DRIVE AND WORK IN THE YARD BUT IF SHE LOOSE HER SOCIAL
    SECURITY CHECK SHE HAS NO MONEY AND SHE WILL NOT AFFORD DOCTORS AND
    SHE CAN EASILY DYE LIKE OTHER AMERICA DOING BECAUSE NO JOBS NO MONEY
    RIGHT NOW I PLAYING SECOND LIFE ONLINE TO EARN SOME MONEY AS MUCH I
    CAN LET GET TOGETHER AND LET BUILD OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHERE IT
    SUPPOSE TO AND STOP ALL THIS BULLISH STUFF MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF U AND
    AMERICA

    July 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Daniel

      Nobody reads all caps with misspellings.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • stevo9

      now that's a run on sentence!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Jouko

    I'm afraid the two party system has come to it's inevitable equilibrium, which is a deadlock stalemate. Both parties, encouraged by an electorate that's only persuaded by unrealistic promises, are stuck in extremes that they can't get out of without giving too much to the other side and losing voters in the process. Both sides got so good at the game that their tactics spun out of control and instead of breaking the tie, they broke the game.

    So here we are, stuck in a system that was designed to encourage compromise but defaults to deadlock even when just one of the sides refuses to play. The solution? I have no idea. A new system perhaps, one with more than two parties, so in order to get things done every player HAS to play and work together to move things forward. Either that, or an unlikely nationwide electoral epiphany makes voters look beyond politics of power and elect only representatives that always value moving the country forward over keeping their own party in power. I wish us good luck, we're going to need it.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Paul Smart

    Wake up 'Rip Van Winkle' Boehner, it is not a tax increase but will be a tax cut restored from the 2001 tax relief act; for the wealthy; which was one of the principal reasons for a National Budget Deficit of $10 trillion over the 8 years of George W. Bush's Presidency. Most of that time with a Republican Congress. Using Congressman, Ron Paul's online information, 10% of the people already own 70.9% of the wealth of this Country. It would be a shame to derail that 10% from being able to end up with the puny 2 tenths of one per cent of the wealth now held by 40% of our population.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Stevo

      The wealthy already pay 35% in federal tax.....35%!!!! How much is enough? Nobody ever mentions that the top 5% of earners in this country pay 60% of the taxes. Someone making $300,000 a year pays 35% in federal taxes. If you make $30,000 per year you pay around 15 – 17% in fedral tax. I'm not rich, but nobody will ever convince me the government needs to have more than 35% of your money. This is just FEDERAL TAX, the 35% does not include state tax, local tax, property tax, capital gians tax, etc, etc, etc. Why does the current administration seem to demonise the wealthy?

      July 26, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • stevo9

      I 100% agree, it's not a revenue issue it's a spending issue. But the republicans are being stubborn as oxes on the issue and their immature bickering will cost us dearly

      July 26, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • DB402L

      It IS a revenue issue: Bring back the jobs. Period. Millions of Americans working millions of American jobs again. Paying trillions in taxes from those American paychecks.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Observations from a teen...

    Despite whatever side you take, as a Democrat or Republican, you've gotta admit, these debates are getting absolutely ridiculous. This country's economy has become a playing chip in Washington's petty politics, and we can't afford to have that right now. Extremists on both sides, and all of these stubborn Republicans, need to stop the games, and take care of the problem.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  8. fppoulet

    The Republicans want every thing their own way, and that just won't work. Reasonable people know that both tax increases and spending cuts are required. Ending tax loopholes and raising taxes on millionares and billionares will not hurt this economy.

    Grownups know how to compromise and do what is right. Seems like the democrats are willing to compromise but Republicans aren't. Deals are the art of everyone giving and taking a bit. Grow up Congress!

    July 26, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  9. sam_

    I'm one of those people who would get hit with the tax. I don't really have a problem with it. I may have to pay more, but I think I can find ways to avoid paying some of it. But even if I can't, the money I will lose in the market (and possibly extra interest from other investments) by the time the market actually recovers from the default will be orders of magnitude more than just the extra tax.

    What is going on here is ideological BS that has the potential to derail the recovery that we've made. It's not worth it.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  10. nascargirl

    Here is a solution!

    This is a condensed version, but you will get the idea!

    For 100 Billion dollars ( 100 days of foreign oil, or 1/7 of the TARP program) every home in the US could be retrofitted for solar power. At an average cost of $25,000/home, that would cover the cost of installing batteries to collect the solar power, as well as some roof panels.
    This is not just given to the homeowner... it is paid back to the government, by selling back any excess energy created, or more properly, crediting your account. When it is paid back, you then continue for 5 years to give back your excess electricity, and the refund you would normally receive, would go back into the program, to help finance the next person, and so on.
    The program is stretched over 10-20 years so as not to be a strain on the budget, and allow for some changes, and keep a whole generation employed!

    So What are the benefits???

    If this plan was to be announced by the government, the immediate and long-term benefits to everyone are tremendous!

    FINANCIALLY – Within hours of announcing this plan, the US dollar would gain back some of it's previous strength and stability, as the world acknowledged the US does have a "plan". This means everything...including oil becomes cheaper for the US, and allows easier payment of the deficit as the dollar is now worth more. Stocks would stabilize and continue to gain strength.
    Companies of all types-construction, real estate,plastics manufacturing, cafes, retail stores, steel companies, all of them would begin a hiring frenzy. Within a year, I would bet that the unemployment rate would be about 6-7%. This also saves government money on social assistance and unemployment programs.
    The housing market would begin to move again, as people are now employed, and can afford a house.

    HEALTHCARE – Healthcare costs go down drastically over a period of 5-20 years, as the pollution disappears, so do the health issues decrease, such as, asthma, lung disease, headaches, migraines, allergies, etc.. This also allows for manufacturing nuclear energy for mostly medical needs. (By the Way, the average final cost of a Nuclear plant is 15 Billion dollars. There are 6 more trying to get the go-ahead to build!. That almost pays for the whole thing itself, and will only employ a few thousand people for a couple of years).

    ELECTRICITY – The Hoover Dam, will not be able to produce electricity in less than 10 years, nor provide much water...it is dropping at a rate of 2 feet per month, and can only drop about another 100 feet, before it becomes a real problem!. Check it out!How much will that cost to fix? By the way the Hoover Dam supplies Nevada, Arizona,and California with much of it;s power!

    If the entire population is not dependent on electricity from the grid, then a major terrorist threat is removed, as are the cost of blackouts, which each can cost millions of dollars and even death if in extreme weather conditions.

    SECURITY – If the US is not paying Billions of dollars a day for oil, therefore not needing to protect so many "foreign interests" they will not only remove some of the power of terrorists, but take away the reason they dislike Americans in the first place. It will also greatly decrease money that goes to the terrorist's groups.

    ENVIRONMENTAL – Need I say what this would do for Global Warming and restoring some of our planets natural balance????

    DOWNSIDE – Most peoples pensions are tied to oil in one way or another, they may suffer in the short-term, however I believe that most would switch over to renewable resources such as solar, wind, geo-thermal, as they leveled each other on the stock market. These would not fluccuate as much, or be at the whim of a few dozen people overseas (OPEC).

    The oil industries, and their associates in Washington would fight to the death for something like this to NOT happen, so it would be up to the people to collectively insist upon it...VERY LOUDLY!.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • The Rev

      Good luck finding the resources to create that many solar panels. The environmental impact of all the mining necessary to pull that off would be worse than a nuclear war.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
  11. steve

    Does anyone care about the people who will be responsible for repaying the debt? They are otherwise known as "children".

    Tell some children to their innocent little faces that you want to destroy their futures out of greed, by charging a bunch of goodies on the national credit card.

    Go ahead and complain about wasteful things, I encourage you. But why have such hatred for children that you want to saddle them with debt?

    July 26, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Jimm

    You can't create fear unless you threaten peoples security. Every goverment does it, even local. Money gets tight, Police and teachers have to g for washington, its miltary, medicare and social security checks...Politicians never have to worry, they look out for each other and try to scare the public into giving in to their whims.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  13. Aaron webb

    JUST PART OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER!! THE DEFAULT WILL HAPPEN, they are just draggin it on in the media. Youtube LINDSAY WILLIAMS AND ALEX JONES radio show. THEY WILL BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU!1

    THE DEFAULT WILL HAPPEN! KNOW JESUS FOR YOURSELF AND get SAVED, ask Him to be the LORD OF YOUR LIFE!

    July 26, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Lois

      Just think if George Bush hadn't allowed that tax cut years ago, where would we be? I am a working senior citizen and wonder every day how anyone could vote Republican. I grew up in the fifties and was a young parent in the late sixties, money was never an issue, we had enough. Now every day, people around me are so scared we'll outlive our funds. I think President Obama is doing a great job and that there are so many people determined to bring him down and the country along with him.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stevo

      Lois – One of the things that makes this country great is the ability to voice your opinion. I will never understand how anyone would ever vote Democratic. We certainly won't together in a chat room. Both sides are to blame for this mess. What continually amazes me is the "Bush Era tax cut" that keeps getting thrown around. Wasn't that a federal tax cut from 38% to 35%? That is a huge percentage. Personally, I think everyone shoudl pay the same % (which of course will never happen). Better yet, no income tax and onlyl a sales tax. The rich would continue to pay more tax because they buy more things. (We would even get tax money from illegals). So many people think it's fair for the so-called rich to pay 38% in federal tax while others pay 15-20%. What is a fair percentage????

      July 26, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  14. tds

    It is Amazing how Boehner has voted to raise the debt ceiling every year he has been in Washington til now. This debt is the money we have already spent! You cant drive a new car off the lot for 8 monthes then decide " well I'm just not going to pay the note anymore". This is why they call it the Full Faith and Credit of our country! And the Republican platform is phiscal resposibility.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  15. T Brannan

    If I hear the word Democrat, Republican, Bi-Partisan, or "What the American People want", one more time, I am going to get sick to my stomach. This whole fiasco is politics at its best and worse. Washington is making a mockery of our system of government and the American people.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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