Overheard on CNN.com: I don't want to pay for your birth control
August 1st, 2011
06:09 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: I don't want to pay for your birth control

Exchange of the day:

"Why should I have to pay for women's birth control? If you don't want to get pregnant, use a condom or don't have sex. I shouldn't have to subsidize your sex life."–achristopher

"Because women are paying for your Viagra?"–jguest321

HHS announces birth control with no co-pay

As of August 2012, women with health insurance will no longer face hefty co-payments for birth control and other preventive services. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is requiring insurance companies to cover these services free. While most CNN.com readers welcomed the news, a few expressed fear and resentment that their own premiums would rise.

amphipathic said, "If this results in fewer children being supported by welfare and Medicaid, I'm all for it." SciFiChickie said, "YES! Now I don't have to pay a $45.00 a month co-pay for birth control anymore. YEAH!" Danielle78 said, "Maybe now I can afford to get insurance since I will have freed up the $1,500 dollars for birth control. But they need to make this in effect sooner than a year, so pharmaceutical companies can't jack the price up, making them unaffordable to almost everyone."

Alyssa0411 said, "Nothing is ever free. Other people will be footing this bill."

hades65 asked, "What is the price for birth control pills?" blakdayz said, "Four dollars at Walmart for any generic." kauppily said, "$15-$150 a month, depending on your insurance and the brand you prefer. A lot of brands don't come in generic for BC."

CEW said, "This will save money. Birth control is far cheaper than paying for a baby. For years, my insurance would not pay for birth control, but WOULD pay for as many babies as I could squeeze out. They will also save money because fewer children and babies will be added to the plan."

RichieP said, "You're delusional. The insurance companies have been in this business for longer than you can imagine. They do everything they can to lower their costs and increase their profits. If it saved money to pay for birth control they would have been paying for it ages ago."

CEW said, "So, wait a minute. It's not OK to pass the cost of BC into the premiums, because that's costing other people money, but it IS OK to have an unwanted child, pass the cost of the birth, and then the health care of that child on to the premiums? Get a grip. Preventing babies is FAR cheaper than paying for them."

skarrlette said, "These women are paying their own insurance. And we have to subsidize plenty of things we don't want to. Like fat people and their diabetes."

Bachmann cancels campaign stops to vote against debt deal

Rep. Michele Bachman, R-Minnesota, returned to Washington to vote against a debt ceiling deal. "The 'deal' ... spends too much and doesn't cut enough," Bachmann said in a statement released Sunday. "Someone has to say 'no.' I will." Most CNN.com readers disagreed.

iminim "She might as well have screamed, 'I am part of the problem!' from the rooftops." Guest said, "As usual you're wrong, Mrs. Bachmann. The debt ceiling increase ensures funds are available to pay the existing bills for programs and policies that the Congress has already voted on and passed. It has nothing to do with future programs, Obamacare or anything else."

some420guy said, "That woman doesn't speak for me. She should stick to speaking for herself and her supporters." dmarq said, "I want to hear her. I want people to remember that she isn't someone who compromises, which is imperative in a two-party system!" june2006 said, "I am a Minnesotan, and I am ashamed. ..."

JimiAtlas said, "A comment to Bachmann: Frankly most of us don't really care about your opinion. Just move out of the way so the rest of us can move forward." geoffreyf said, "Michelle Bachman voted for the last 10 years for the budgets and tax loopholes that created the debt."

RY62747 said, "She will say 'No' to the elderly, the poor and most of the middle class. She will say 'Yes' to unregulated big business and the rich. She will say 'No' to the environment but 'Yes' to the oil companies. She is saying 'No' to freedom of religion but 'Yes' to the government's right to mandate Christian beliefs in school. The great irony of the whole tea party movement is that they are ultimately destroying the founding principles of our country in the name of our Constitution." bob033048 said, "And someone has to say "no" to you, Bachmann. And more than one of us will."

pbernasc said, "Dear America, no country has ever gone much of anywhere by gutting its own middle class. ..."

Which countries have the most vacation days?

Each week, CNN examines world rankings to show how various countries compare with one another. A recent comparison of vacation days found the United States not only close to the bottom but also singled out because - unlike the other countries – -it does not legally mandate vacation time. Most CNN.com readers were dismayed by the contrast to European benefits.

danny379 said, "Such a shame that America can't be the same. I also hate Americans who criticize Europe's 'socialism.' Geez, is it really that bad? At least they get more vacation and have a better/more affordable health care system!"

Hasbaya said, "I don't know anyone who can take off 25 days a year and keep her or his job. Twenty-five days off may be the theoretical average in the U.S., but, in my experience, most workers are not allowed to actually use them."

erm035 said, "You are so right. The people who get more than two weeks' vacation are typically salaried workers. Management loads them up with so much work (I typically work 50 hours a week as an engineer but am paid for 40) that either you don't take all your vacation or you work 60+ hours a week for the month before and month after your vacation. Not finishing what management told you to finish means losing your job to the Chinese or Indians."

studdmuffins said, "I met a lot of Europeans on vacation in Jamaica. One guy said he'd been there six weeks over Christmas and was spending two more. Wow."

But docwatson75 said, "Given about 10 holidays, I never had trouble using at least two weeks of vacation as well: so 20 days. But I am one of the lucky ones here in the U.S."

true777 said, "I have spent half my life in U.S. and half in Europe. In addition to better health care, social services, education and much better work/life balance, Europeans enjoy ample disposable incomes and large living spaces on average. And look at the U.S. economy and compare it to the economies of, for example, Germany. The U.S. can tell you whatever it wants, but Europeans enjoy much better quality of life."

SimonCohen said, "On the other hand, we have very low tax rate, medical insurance with profit-driven companies, biggest military budget and largest deficit. I am proud."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.


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  1. disband the Fed

    @Leo...ya don't say. I was offering forced abortions as an alternative to free birth control pills proposal.. Are people really this dense? And no matter what you like calling it, it's at the very least a potential human being you just killed. But it's legal now so we might as well use it to thin-out the welfare lines. Abortion is less expensive than welfare. Anything to save a buck.

    August 3, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Richard Alexander

    As if medical insurance weren't already too expensive for the majority of Americans to afford, now Obama is forcing another rate increase. No problem; just mandate full coverage. If you don't buy health insurance, you will be fined. This is how tyrants behave.

    August 3, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • watchMoreThanFox

      You need to step away from Faux news and do some reading. Health care is taking this country into a death spiral. The GOPs plan is to do nothing but cut taxes for the rich. This leaves all other issues as they are. The health care plan is not perfect but has some great improvements. It does things like get rid of preexisting condition restrictions that kill people. It also gets rid of Insurance company death panels that kill people when they refuse coverage for people that have insurance. I have insurance and had insurance before the bill but see no reason for the US to have the most expensive health insurance in the world with third world outcomes. Our current health care also requires my taxes to pay for anyone to go to the Emergency room which is just idiotic.

      October 19, 2011 at 7:48 am | Report abuse |
  3. Mitch

    That's fine, then I don't want to pay for someone else's cancer due to smoking or obesity-related diseases because they don't know how to eat sensibly. Do we have a deal?

    August 3, 2011 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  4. John

    I don't think this is a good idea. Maybe I don't have all the information but I don't see how expanded coverage helps this problem. If generic versions cost "only 9 dollars a month" (not my word, the word of several articles on the issue) and birth control use is, according to a major study, near universal then it does not seem that access and affordability are the problem. Also, according to everything I have read, most of the unplanned pregnancies happened to women who had access to birth control but simply forgot to use it. Again, how does this help resolve the issue of unplanned pregnancies causing mental problems? This seems to be nothing more then the first step toward requring all schools to provide contraceptives. Teaching how they work is one thing but providing them is giving a seal of approval to the behavior and that is wrong.

    August 3, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • JaneDoe

      You are wrong. It costs more than 9/month. Nuva ring can cost up to 50. Not everyone can take a pill orally. Most unplanned pregnancies arent from people who "forgot" to use it. Keep making things up please, its really helpful.

      August 6, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Gerry

    Paying for birth control is less expensive than paying for children no one wants. And children are the last thing anti abortionists want, when they are born.

    August 4, 2011 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
  6. Ryan

    Thank you President Obama for thinking ahead. It's truly a blessing to have a President that can think past the next election cycle and do what's best for the county.

    The same folks on here that don't want to pay for birth control, are the same folks complaining about not paying for welfare, unemployment benefits and healthcare. Without affordable birth control, there will be more unwanted pregnancies and more mouths to feed, clothe, employ, teach and provide healthcare to as a society. The same complainers are the folks who are the first people to complain about having to pay their taxes and then wonder why there are so many potholes. They're also known as Republicans, Tea Baggers or selfish.

    August 5, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
  7. Ockamrazor

    I should not have to pay for your birth control or your kids, or your education, or your books, or your day care, or your food. It is THEFT plane and simple. Nothing is FREE, someone pays, and unfortunately it is always the tax payer or the cost is shared by increased premiums for all. There are many ways to avoid pregnancy including abstinence and many clinics offer low cost or minimal cost birth control. And it is not just birth control, it's ligation, and breast feeding supplies. I nursed my children and the only thing I needed was what God gave me. Free advice and help is available from the LaLeche League. Now women want breast feeding counseling, breast pumps, special bras, ad infinitum. They WANT, WANT, WANT. It is never ending. They are greedy, self-serving, selfish and out of control.

    August 8, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Ockamrazor

    Nanny state advocates you must realize you are opting out of freedom. The answer to the human condition is freedom, not government. You make your choices and you live with them, I do not bail you out, you learn your lesson or you die from the results of your own stupidity.

    August 8, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
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