Overheard on CNN.com: We would vote for Huntsman
LZ Granderson says GOP presidential candidate Jon Huntsman should consider running as an independent.
August 30th, 2011
11:11 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: We would vote for Huntsman

Comment of the day:

“Huntsman would have been a moderate Republican 40 years ago, now he's a socialist to his own party.” - pus512

An independent Huntsman has a chance

In his column this week, LZ Granderson says GOP Presidential candidate Jon Huntsman should flee his party and run as an independent. He says he’s disappointed by some of President Obama’s choices but can’t support any of the other GOP candidates. Feeling politically trapped, Granderson says an independent Huntsman could help.

And many CNN.com readers agreed:

elperroguapo said, “I would vote for Huntsman. I voted for Obama last election. And I'll vote for him again, because the GOP is going to offer some moron who believes the job of the POTUS is to Evangelicalize the nation.”

slowshow responded, “I'll probably vote for Obama again, but Huntsman and Mitt are the only Republican candidates that don't scare the hell out of me.”

bluekhakis said, “Huntsman seems to be the last of a dying breed – the Goldwater and Lincoln Republican. If only we could lessen the static coming from the Moral Majority, we could move things along in this country. We'll still disagree with each other, but at least our debates would be focused on policy and not on who is or is not a Nazi.”

gizmo420 said, “If the Republicans elect Mitt Romney, Ron Paul or Jon Huntsman they will win the White House in 2012. If they elect a batsh!t candidate like Perry or Bachman, it'll be another 4 years for Obama.”

Corvus1 responded, “Ron Paul isn't batsh!t? Really?”

whodey responded, “Ron Paul is a certifiable wingnut, a cult-leader. Romney is a chameleon who believes whatever you want him to believe. He was a liberal when running for Mass governor, now he is a right hardliner. Huntsman is the only sensible guy.”

gizmo420 said, “Huntsman believes in global warming, evolution and diplomacy over militarism. Those are three things that make him unacceptable to Republicans. The fact that he is a Mormon won't help either.”

SpaceViking said, “I would vote for Huntsman. He reminds me of the Republicans we used to get instead of today's pack of anti-science (anti-thought, really) fools.”

CrunkSwaggaG said, “Huntsman's in the wrong party. He's a Bill Clinton Democrat at heart. We need more people like him, in the center. Socially liberal but fiscally conservative.”

FeralUrchin said, “Bingo. I keep thinking that someday, maybe someday soon, an unconventional ticket will win the WH. Maybe Huntsman/Hillary or Colin Powell/Huntsman? Some day this country is going to pull it out and hammer both the Republicans and Democrats (I hope!).”

moondancer42 said, “I was planning on sleeping through this election (and never turning on the TV) but now I think I will watch this Huntsman guy. The tea partyers scare me and the Democrats disappoint me, this guy seems to be a good combination...fiscal conservative and scientifically aware...could be something.”

logicrules2 said, “I voted for Obama and couldn't be more disappointed. Would very much consider voting for Huntsman if he showed he could reign in the GOP and the Tea Party idiots! Those two groups have brought us to near collapse.”

southerngeek said, “While Huntsman's intelligence is indeed a whiff of cool oxygen in a stifling room full of hot air, the facts are that third parties are little more than oddities in our current system. Perot was a billionaire who ran on his own wallet and still made little more than a dent in the system. Teddy Roosevelt was the last time a third party candidate mounted a truly serious run at the White House.”

Cheeze68 responded, “Southerngeek while you are correct, if you don't try you can never accomplish! If we as American's stop worrying so much about being on one side or the other, and realize ANY vote is not a wasted vote, then and ONLY then will we start getting better candidates.”

Carl007 said, “It's time to put an end to this 'Door #1' or 'Door #2' shell game the Demon-crats and Republicants play every four years. They're scared of a solid third party because a third party will shine a bright light on what a huge disservice both of ‘the usual suspect parties’ have been doing to the American voter.”

Don’t blame the forecaster

Some people say Hurricane Irene was over-hyped, even by meteorologists. But Dean Obeidallah, award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show," cautioned people about blasting weather guys. Predicting the unpredictable can be tricky business, and disrespecting them could be a mistake.

Although some said the Irene coverage was too much, many CNN.com readers agreed with Obeidallah and said they admired their forecasters.

Groomten3 said, “See, anyone who saw what happened during Katrina cannot possibly believe there is such a thing as exaggeration when it comes to hurricanes. I'd rather have people preparing for the worst than watching helpless people screaming for help on live TV.”

mrichinct said, “The media did a great job on keeping people informed of what was happening. People lost lives all the way up the coast. People lost their homes and businesses. Millions were and are still out of power. How can anyone possibly criticize the news media for reporting on Irene? If not for the forewarning, the situation could have been a lot worse.”

infamous111 said, “Hey guys....anyone remember that storm called Katrina? You know, the category 3 hurricane that forecasters nailed perfectly up to 96 hours in advance, but many people ignored along the Gulf coast. Or how about the tornado outbreak that ripped through Alabama, which was forecasted perfectly and saved thousands of lives?

Additionally, I'm a bit confused at the outrage over Irene's forecast. By and large, the storm did exactly what they said it would do. Forecasters from the National Hurricane Center warned of hurricane force winds up the Atlantic Seaboard, with tropical storm force winds once the storm made landfall in New England. This is exactly what happened. The media whipped up all the stories of impending death and destruction, not forecasters.

Besides, I think we should stop treating 10B in damage and 36 lost lives as no big deal, or nothing serious. Shame on us.”

tosspot said, “I think the problem is not accuracy, as it definitely is impossible to predict storm movement with 100 percent accuracy. The bigger problem is the relentless hyperbole and the sensationalistic way the forecasts are presented. Not every storm that comes along can be the biggest, most threatening cataclysm ever seen by man. I realize it gets ratings, but it really needs to be toned down before people start ignoring it completely.”

RKW29 responded, “And would if it had turned out to be the worse? There was certainly the possibility it could have strengthened rather than weakened. And for many people in Vermont and upstate New York with the flooding, this WAS the worse in memory.

Apple fighting theft in China

Apple products are enormously popular in China; so is counterfeiting them. According to a WikiLeaks cables, Apple was slow to act but eventually organized a team in March 2008 to curtail knockoff iPods and iPhones. Still, counterfeiting is a mounting problem for the tech company.

Most CNN.com readers said they aren’t very sympathetic:

SeriouslyRU said, “Paying excruciatingly low wages to generate obscene profits which do not even filter down to Apples core workforce but benefit the very select few at the top and the oligarchic shareholds. Somehow we should shed a tear? The only people who lose here are the plutocratic elite, who fly private jets and have mansions on the ocean. Boo hooo.”

mdanby said, “1. What these pirates do is immoral and wrong. 2. This theft of IP and damage to Apple's image caused by association of shoddy products with the Apple brand definitely does affect the ‘core’ worker's of Apple as stock option holders. Futhremore this theft also affects Apple shareholders. This is far from a victimless crime.”

JimmyOlson said, “Apple has an opportunity now to tell China if they don't take this piracy much more serious Apple will relocate their manufacturing operations out of China. Who knows maybe Apple will bring the jobs back to the USA. Maybe that might lead to other companies doing the same thing. We can still dream of this happening at the very least.”

Spawned said, “Apple (and other American companies) are going into China for cheap labor and virtually no pollution oversight. The Chinese people are stealing Apple's technology and selling counterfeit Apple products. Who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, they deserve each other don't they! Lotsa Love.”

60minuteman said, “Live by the sword, die by the sword. I have no sympathy for any company manufacturing in China.”

PROFESSIONAL said, “Here's an idea. Why not make less profit by paying the American people to manufacturer the product instead of being greedy and paying the Chinese pennies to make it and and then steal it from you? Apple makes like 40-50 percent margin on this stuff. They can afford to make it in the US so I don't feel sorry for them.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (49 Responses)
  1. yada

    Amen to THAT!

    August 31, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  2. yada

    I was refering to SUSIEQ's post with my, Amen! But Darwin has some interesting points too. Enjoyed both posts.

    August 31, 2011 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  3. V

    Clever got me this far
    Then tricky got me in
    Eye on what I'm after
    I don't need another friend
    Smile and drop the cliché
    'Till you think I'm listening
    I take just what I came for
    Then I'm out the door again

    Peripheral on the package
    Don't care to settle in
    Time to feed the monster
    I don't need another friend
    Comfort is a mystery
    Crawling out of my own skin
    Just give me what I came for Then I'm out the door again

    Eye on what I’m after
    I don't need another friend
    Nod and watch your lips move
    If you need me to pretend
    Because clever got me this far
    Then tricky got me in
    I'll take just what I came for
    Then I'm out the door again

    Lie to get what I came for
    Lie to get what I need now
    Lie to get what I'm craving
    Lie and smile to get what's mine

    August 31, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  4. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Not JIF above, except the first post.
    Almost all trolls.

    September 1, 2011 at 3:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. FireAllPols

    a lifetime democratic, i'm thoroughly disgusted by all politicians. But this Huntsman guy gives me hope. He's educated, intelligent, willing to confront the vitriol and banality of the teabaggers. And he speaks Mandarin. Who knows if in the next 10 years having a leader who can understand the Chinese may not be a life and death need for the USA. I'm voting for him, even if I have to write him in.

    September 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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