For the Georgia prosecutor who put Troy Davis on trial in 1991 for killing a cop and won a conviction, there were two cases being fought.
"There is the legal case, the case in court, and the public relations case," Spencer Lawton, the former Chatham County prosecutor, said. "We have consistently won the case as it has been presented in court. We have consistently lost the case as it has been presented in the public realm, on TV and elsewhere."
Lawton spoke to CNN about the Davis case, his first interview on the case since Davis' initial trial, after the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles denied clemency for the death-row inmate on Tuesday.
Davis was convicted of the 1989 killing of Savannah, Georgia, police officer Mark MacPhail. He is scheduled to be executed by lethal injection at 7 p.m. Wednesday at a state prison in Jackson, Georgia.
After he was sentenced to death, Davis' lawyers filed a federal court appeal insisting there was "no physical evidence linking" Davis to MacPhail’s murder. They called the testimony of a ballistics expert that shell casings from another shooting by Davis matched casings found at the murder scene an "unremarkable conclusion" since the murder weapon was not found.
"We believe that we've established substantial doubt in this case," Stephen Marsh, Davis' attorney, said at the time. "And given the level of doubt that exists in this case, we believe that an execution is simply not appropriate."
Thousands of influential dignitaries, including the pope, South Africa's Desmond Tutu and former President Jimmy Carter, as well as more than 600,000 people have signed a petition seeking to stop Davis' execution.
Lawton says he believes the outrage over the sentence resulted from a public relations campaign by Davis' supporters, while prosecutors remained silent outside the courtroom.
"It's just been my policy, that I not comment on a pending case - and this case has been pending for two decades," he said. "For two decades, I've maintained my silence. That meant I could never respond.
"So we have been at an extreme disadvantage in the public relations campaign for that reason, because we felt that we were ethically bound to maintain our silence and express our opinions and judgments on the facts in court, which is where we have. And every place we have, we have won."
Now that he can speak, since he considers the case officially closed with the parole board's ruling, he wants to clear the air about a few things.
He told CNN he has no doubt about Davis' guilt. He said he believes supporters have been misinformed about the facts of the case.
He said he believed that documents from early on in the trial were being "exploited" when supporters tried to cast doubt on physical evidence or said there was none.
Davis was convicted of the first, non-fatal, shooting in Savannah's Cloverdale neighborhood that night. Lawton said there was confusion over evidence in the murder case because the shell casings from both shootings wound up in the same evidence bag.
"That confusion was subsequently resolved; it was resolved adequately at trial," he said. "Our problem, from the state's point of view, is the documents, which initially reflect the initial confusion, are still out there and are being exploited to that end."
Davis' supporters also have attacked the witness testimony in the murder trial as shoddy and pointed out that several witnesses, including some who had claimed that Davis told them he killed the officer, later recanted their testimony, in some case blaming pressure from police.
But Lawton said recanted statements don't deserve the validity they have been given in media accounts. He said a judge ruled they were at the very least "suspect" because they were not given under oath and prosecutors never got the opportunity to cross-examine the recanting witnesses in court.
He also said the question of duress cuts both ways.
"I think that what you would find is there was as much duress applied to get the affidavits as the affidavits are said to contain allegations of duress on the part of police," he said.
And Lawton question why it took Davis' lawyers 15 or 20 years to get these witnesses to recant and why they then waited until eight days before Davis' first scheduled execution to make these explosive statements public.
Lawton told CNN he believes "that the affidavits of recantation were of more value to the attorneys as a device for delay than they were valuable as a device for substantive argument."
Lawton said the lengthy nature of the case has helped rampant speculation override the facts.
"It has been a game of delay throughout. The longer the delay, the more time they have to create not doubt, not honest doubt, not real doubt, but the appearance of doubt," he said. "And there are people who have not troubled themselves to acquaint themselves with the record, who don't know the facts, who do oppose the death penalty and who have been willing on the strength of that emotion alone to assume the truth of the allegations of the weakness of evidence in the case."
Lawton said some people who are fully aware of the facts believe the death penalty doesn't fit the crime, and he understands how they've reached that conclusion.
Lawton questioned Pope Benedict XVI's interpretation of the intricacies of Georgia law.
"His holiness has expressed his objection to the death penalty in the case, although it's noteworthy he didn't constrain himself to the issue of morality of the death penalty - he went on to comment on the sufficiency of evidence in the case," Lawton said regarding the pope's recent comments. "This is not something I had previously thought the Holy See had expertise in, that is to say Georgia's evidentiary rules."
He also challenged the views of former FBI director and federal district judge William S. Sessions, and Bob Barr, a former federal prosecutor and Georgia congressman, who have said there is no credible physical evidence in the case.
"Their credibility is hanging on a falsehood," Lawton said. "They would know differently if they looked at the record."
As for President Carter's position that Davis should get life without parole because he was unfairly convicted based on the evidence, Lawton said:
"This is fuzzy thinking. This is what happens when you try a criminal case in the streets, when it becomes a public relations campaign," the former D.A. said. "When it's in a court, you get disciplined thinking. We've won every time the thinking has been disciplined."
Lawton said he doesn't feel Tuesday's ruling resulted in a "happy day for anyone."
"I have no brief for the death penalty. If it were to evaporate tomorrow, it would suit me fine," he said. "On the other hand, it is a part of, a component of, Georgia's law and that's what I was sworn to uphold."
Lawton said he's against mob justice of any kind.
"Would it be different if all these people were agitating to have someone executed? The criminal justice system should cow in the face of that kind of mob action? No, we would all say no," he said. "That's not the way the system is supposed to operate."
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Unless Pres Jimmy Carter personally handled the bullet casing from the pool party and conducted the ballistics on them and had custody of both sets of casing and took them to court and revealed the results I wouldn't trust it. Cops can make anything seem plausible. Add the emotions of a slain comrad in the mix and they can turn cow crap into a gourmet dish.
I so agree. Jesus! someone can think on the Internet.
Jimmy Carter is a boob who still thinks that Velezuelan leader Hugo Chauvez is still a democratically elected leader and president, not the communist dictator that he is. I wouldn't trust that man with a bowl of excrement, let alone evidence of a crime.
Lonnie – expect two calls: one from the Secret Service for making an indirect threat against the President; one from your 8th grade (and last) English teacher.
He is a racist fool as his post suggest.
Admitting I am relying on the media but of the 9 witnesses two remain steadfast. One witness is enough, at least in California. I am opposed to the DP btw. I have to hope that greater legal minds did what they could in reviewing the case. It is time for a change in the law.
Lonnie tha remark as nothing to do with what the topic is. Take your comments elsewhere they are not needed here. Do you see that is bigger than a man being put to death. So much more. If I'm not mistaken the President is partly white!
There should have been hard core evidence!!!! How can you take a life based on he said she said?
The holy see should shut his pie hole. That clown should stick with covering up child molesters in his church.
Sounds like a personal problem that your old man used to tell you his ding a ling was a strawberry ice cream cone. Don't bring the Pope down because you were forced down on your dad.
One less to pay for. Next.
This person is completely ignorant..... Fool.... Dig a hole
"This is fuzzy thinking. This is what happens when you try a criminal case in the streets, when it becomes a public relations campaign," the former D.A. said. "When it's in a court, you get disciplined thinking. We've won every time the thinking has been disciplined."
Oh right, so this case was one by 'disciplined' thinking and not by facts? This country stands on for the people, by the people and if it wasnt because of 'public relations' this man wouldn't even have his job. As a public servant, you'd think he'd show more respect. But this kind of arrogance can only be displayed by someone who has never lived on the street. If anything he shouldn't talk, and just go back to his retirement home and let us decided. If the people dont want the death penalty, then the government has to adhere. As long as the people are for the death penalty, even he knows thats the only reason his job is so exciting. Its obvious he has no regrets, or remorse about someone being put to the death. That makes him just as bad as the murderers who actually die by the 'sword' in this case, the government
If you havent noticed cnn is always turning everything into a racial or gay stance like there trying to act like racism is real. You can always tell too cause youll see big fat rowlin martin running his mouth looking like an idiot. I dont know nothing about this guy. I think people shouldnt be put to death but have that option I rather be dead then rot in a hellhole
time will determine guilt or innocent.
He's dead already. Let him and his family be. The debate over a dead man should die and move on to the next guy that everyone seems to think is innocent.
From your statement, you assume he was guilty. Just because that is your assumption does not make it the truth. I want you to remember this when things are assumed about you, when you stand accused of something that you are truly not guilty of; then, maybe you will understand the situation at it's core and not from an outsiders point of view. Judge not, lest you be judged. The same measure that you measure with, shall be measured unto you!
It was a terrible miscarriage of justice. Troy Davis forgave all who had any hand in his conviction and exection. That says a lot. He should not have had to prove himself innocent, in this country we are suppose to be innocent until proven guilty with no reasonable doubt. The Mac Phail family will not find peace or closure in an innocent man's death, they are lying to themselves if they pretend to. Their peace and closure will come through forgiveness and the letting go of seeking revenge with a heart bent on blood for blood; that is not the spirit of God.Who was pistol whipping the homeless man in the first place? How come the gun that Sylvester Coles admitted having but conveniently gave to someone else earlier that day, was never confiscated and examined? Troy Davis said to dig deeper for the truth, The Bible says there is nothing hidden that shall not be uncovered! Sylvester "Redd" Coles, how do you feel about the man you see in the mirror? I realize an Officer lost his life and that is wrong also, however, the justice does not come in the killing of just any man, it must be the actual guilty man, the one who did this crime. Until that happens the state of Georgia is nothing but a big blob of racism and corruption. It has shown it's true colors. Some say the south has changed, that is not true. They have only found another way to camouflage and sugarcoat the racism that has existed for centuries. This is truly, truly sad. that mankind can be so cruel and heartless and resort to such tactics as these and call it justice.
I just left for a party with my .38. Some guy at the party got shot in the face with a .38 so I left and went to burger king. A guy I know says I hit a homeless fellow in the head with my .38 . To top it all off , another guy gets shot in the face with a .38 . crazy stuff. I'll probably go to jail just because I'm black , 9 people saw me do it and I'll get a predominantly black jury.Gee whiz,America is racist.
He confessed to the first shooting.
Davis was not going to get the death penalty for shooting the first man...killing a law enforcement officer is what resulted in the death penalty. I think there is always doubt about any conviction; it is not a perfect system that is why I do not support the death penalty. Do I think Troy Davis was guilty; yes, based on the evidence I have read about from both sides. Do I think he deserved to be put to death; no, there are too many flaws and always doubt. I have problems with a service that is "celebrating" the life of a criminal.
I just left for a party with my .38. Some guy at the party got shot in the face with a .38 so I left and went to burger king. A guy I know says I hit a homeless fellow in the head with my .38 . To top it all off , another guy gets shot in the face with a .38 . crazy stuff. I'll probably go to jail just because I'm black , 9 people saw me do it and I'll get a predominantly black jury.Gee whiz,America is racist.
To say the least, I think this trial has to make us question our government and american system. In the past, the government has covered up various things, and likewise the media exaggerates certain things in topics. Kind of tough to tell who to believe now. I think we as a nation need to fix that.