Overheard on CNN.com: New definition of rape reflects reality, some readers say
Attorney General Eric Holder says the new definition will lead to a more comprehensive statistical reporting of rape nationwide.
January 6th, 2012
12:36 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: New definition of rape reflects reality, some readers say

Editor's note: This post is part of the Overheard on CNN.com series, a regular feature that examines interesting comments and thought-provoking conversations posted by the community.

"The carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will" has been a legal definition of rape since 1927. But the Justice Department announced Friday that it is expanding this definition to include attacks against men. Any kind of nonconsensual penetration, no matter the gender of the attacker or victim, will constitute rape. Commenters had lots to say about this story.

Rape definition broadened to include men

Many readers said this new change has been long overdue.

Elmeaux: "It's about time. Violence of this nature against any human being must be measured by the same yardstick."

Men can be rape victims as well as women, many commenters noted. A lot of them cited the abuse of male children, as well.

janetfis: "It's about time! People need to understand that men can be victims too! Look at the kids raped by their teachers. Or young boys sexually abused by their mothers. The blame is usually placed on the male and that is not always the case. This law should have been in place eons ago!"

A few wondered whether the definition would lead to unjust accusations against those who have sex while intoxicated, while others said inebriation is irrelevant.

Insiteful: " ' It also includes instances in which a victim is incapable of giving consent because of mental or physical incapacity, such as intoxication.'

How about instances in which the 'perp' is incapable of asking or assessing consent because of mental or physical incapacity, such as intoxication?"

LivinginVA: "If you get drunk and kill someone, it's murder. If you get drunk and rob a store, it's still robbery. So, yeah, if you do something illegal when you are drunk you are held accountable. What, exactly, is the problem with that?"

Several readers wondered whether this update was related to events in the news or was at least well-timed.

Bhogamon: "Perfect timing; Just as the Pope selects new cardinals, and Penn State selects its new football coach."

siracco: "Inspired no doubt by the pervs in the sports industry and Catholic church."

Some readers thought people were focusing too much on the Catholic church.

response2cnn: "Uh, yeah, there are many cases of public school teacher pedophilia, but for some reason it's easy to say the whole Catholic Church are pedophiles, but not the whole public school system.

I know of no priest personally who was a pedophile, accused or not. I know several priests and bishops who embezzled. I know a priest who had an affair with a parishioner (straight in case you are wondering). I know of at least two cases of pedophilia in my middle school and high school. Neither were prosecuted, and one resulted in a pregnancy of the high school student. The result of that second case was the teacher was moved to the next school district, with NO warning to our school district that a pedophile was being hired, even though it was the same county superintendent in charge of the 'firing' and rehiring. Luckily, at our school, the teacher 'only' started sexually harassing girls and did not actually have relations with any of our students.

Please don't miss the forest for the trees. Institutions that focus on children attract pedophiles. The public education system in the U.S. is far worse than the Catholic Church is. But also remember that in other countries, priests often were teachers, that double-whammy of child contact and hiding pedophilia."

What do you think? Share your opinion in the comments area below and in the latest stories on CNN.com. Or sound off on video via CNN iReport.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

Post by:
Filed under: Justice • Overheard on CNN.com
soundoff (66 Responses)
  1. wow123

    What IM wondering is how in the world did the human race survive for 100,000 years without all these laws? How can it be possible? We are all victims or decedants of victims.- oh the agony of it all!!!!!!

    January 8, 2012 at 7:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
1 2 3 4

Post a comment


 

CNN welcomes a lively and courteous discussion as long as you follow the Rules of Conduct set forth in our Terms of Service. Comments are not pre-screened before they post. You agree that anything you post may be used, along with your name and profile picture, in accordance with our Privacy Policy and the license you have granted pursuant to our Terms of Service.