March 20th, 2012
01:42 PM ET

911 calls paint picture of chaos after Florida teen is shot

The death of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed teen who was shot while walking in his neighborhood in Sanford, Florida, has sparked allegations of racial profiling and calls for the gunman to be charged.

Federal prosecutors and the FBI will investigate the incident.

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who has acknowledged shooting Martin, has not been charged and says it was self-defense.

Martin, 17, was killed while walking to his father's fiancee's house in Sanford from a nearby convenience store.

Zimmerman first called police at 7:09 p.m. ET with concerns about a suspicious teen in the area, according to 911 tapes released by the Seminole County Sheriff's Department.

A 16-year-old girl who was on the phone with Martin most of the day last spoke to him around the time the incident allegedly began and lasted until 7:16 p.m. ET, when the call dropped. Almost immediately, 911 calls began coming in.  Police arrived on the scene at 7:17 p.m.

Several witnesses called 911 at 7:16, 7:17, 7:18 and 7:19 p.m. ET.

Below are the transcripts of the calls as Zimmerman and witnesses describe what they saw and heard that night:

7:09 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Zimmerman: "We had some break-ins in our neighborhood ... and there is a real suspicious guy. ... This guy looks like he's up to no good, he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's walking around looking about. "

Dispatcher: "Is this guy white, black, Hispanic?"

Zimmerman: "He looks black."

Dispatcher: "Did you see what he's wearing?"

Zimmerman: "A dark hoodie, grey hoodie, jeans or sweatpants or white shoes. He's walking around staring at the houses. Now he's just staring at me."

Dispatcher: "Location?"

Zimmerman: "He's near the clubhouse right now. Now he's coming towards me. He has his hands in his waistband. He is a black male. Something's wrong with him. Yep. He's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is. Send officers over here."

Dispatcher: "Let me know if he does anything else."

Zimmerman: "These a**holes, they always get away. When you come in go straight to the left ... when you pass the clubhouse ..."

Dispatcher: "Clubhouse?"

Zimmerman: "Go straight in. Oh, s***. He's running ... down towards the other entrance of neighborhood."

Dispatcher: "He's running? Which way is he running?"

Zimmerman: "Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood."

Dispatcher: "Which entrance is that, that he is running towards?

Zimmerman: "The back entrance."

[inaudible]

Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"

Zimmerman: "Yeah."

Dispatcher: "OK. We don't need you to do that. What's your name?"

Zimmerman: "George. Zimmerman."

Dispatcher: "Do you want to meet with the officer ..."

Zimmerman: "Tell them to come past the clubhouse and make a left then past mailboxes and they will see my truck ..."

Dispatcher: "What's your apartment number?"

Zimmerman: "It's a home. ... I don't want to give that out. I don't know who this kid is."

Dispatcher: "I will let them know where to meet you."

Zimmerman: "Have them call me, and I will let you know where I'm at."

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During part of this time, Martin is on the phone with a 16-year-old girl. Below is an account of the phone call as relayed to In Session's Sunny Hostin by a lawyer for the Martin family:

Martin told the girl someone was following him, and she advised him to run. Martin said he isn't going to run but will walk quickly. Zimmerman caught up with him, and Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him. Zimmerman then asked Martin his name and why he was there. The girl on the phone says she heard Zimmerman push Martin, and then the call drops. She tried to call Martin back, but he didn't respond.

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7:16 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "Maybe both. I'm not sure. There's just someone screaming outside."

Dispatcher: "Is it a male or female?"

Caller: "It sounds like a male."

Dispatcher: "You don't know why?"

Caller: "I don't know why. I think they are yelling 'help,' but I don't know. Just end someone quick, please."

Dispatcher: "Does he look hurt to you?"

Caller: "I can't see him. I don't want to go out there. I don't know what's going on."

Dispatcher: "So you think he's yelling help?"

Caller: "Yes. There's gunshots."

Dispatcher: "How many?"

Caller: "Just one."

[inaudible]

Dispatcher: "Is he right outside?"

Caller: "Yes. Pretty much out the back, yes."

Dispatcher: "Is he in front of it or behind it?"

Caller: "He's behind my house."

Dispatcher: "I don't hear him yelling anymore. Do you hear anything?"

Caller: "No, I don't because I'm hiding upstairs. The gunshot was outside our house. You sent somebody, right?"

Dispatcher: "Do you hear any vehicles leaving or anything else?

Caller: "There's people yelling down there, but I don't want to go down there."

Dispatcher: "People are yelling now?"

Caller: "Yeah."

Dispatcher: "We do have officers on the way. Call us back if you see any vehicles leaving or anything."

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7:16 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "There's someone screaming outside."

Dispatcher: "Is that at where you are at?"

Caller: "Oh, my God, there is a gunshot, hurry up."

[inaudible]

Dispatcher: "Do you see anybody? I don't need you to go outside."

Caller: "There is someone screaming. I just heard a gunshot."

Dispatcher: "Do you see anything? I don't need you to go outside. Do you hear screaming or anything?"

Caller: "Hurry up, they are right outside my house."

Dispatcher: "OK, we [have] police and emergency, OK. Are you in Sanford?"

Caller: "I see police now."

Dispatcher: "You see the officer?"

Caller: "Yeah, but like it's behind the house. There is a dead body there. It's not the front entrance. Oh, my God."

Dispatcher: "Please tell me so I can tell them."

Caller: "If you are looking at my house, it's behind by my back porch."

Dispatcher: "Coming from behind your house?"

Caller: "Yes, the back porch."

Dispatcher: "Stay on the line and update me."

Caller: "I just heard screaming and a gunshot."

Dispatcher: "We have an officer there. Did you hear any more gunshots?"

Caller: "No, I don't hear. Hurry up, hurry up."

Dispatcher: "OK, we have officers out there, OK? If anything changes, give us a call back, but we do have officers there. One officer is there."

Caller: "OK, did he see anything?"

Dispatcher: "I'm not sure, ma'am, I just know he is there, and two other officers are on their way, OK? If anything changes or anything more, call us back. As far as you know, it's coming from behind your house near your back-porch area? When you hear screaming, was it screaming of female or male?"

Caller: "Male."

Dispatcher: "So, when you heard screaming, it was a male screaming?"

Caller: "Yes. And the guy on top had a white t-shirt."

Dispatcher: "What do you mean guy on top? Did you see a fight?"

Caller: "I don't know, I just looked out my window, and there was a guy on top wearing a white t-shirt."

Dispatcher: "A white t-shirt. Did you see what kind of pants? He was on top of what?"

Caller: "I couldn't see the person he was on."

Dispatcher: "But he was on top of a person?"

Caller: "Yes."

Dispatcher: "The guy with the white t-shirt, did he get up and run?"

Caller: "I don't know. Went to the phone to call you

Dispatcher: "White, black or Hispanic?"

Caller: "I couldn't tell, it was completely dark."

Dispatcher: "We have several units en route."

Caller: "Thank you."

7:17 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "I’m looking out my deck, and someone is screaming 'help,' and I don’t know. … I heard a bang. I’m looking out my window, out my backyard, and someone is yelling and screaming 'help.' "

Dispatcher: "You are not the only person calling. We have more than one officer on the scene and another on the way."

Caller: "Oh, my God. I see the person now. I see him walking. There’s a man coming out and people coming out with flashlights. Oh, my God. I don’t know what he did to this person. I can see there is a man walking out with a flashlight right now."

Dispatcher: "Was it a male or female voice?"

Caller: "The man is up right now. Someone is coming over. I’m glad other people called."

Dispatcher: "We should be out there right now."

Caller: "I can open my window and hear it."

Dispatcher: "You can still hear it?"

Caller: "I don’t know what is happening. Someone is laying on the ground."

Dispatcher: "What’s happening? Someone is on the ground? Someone has been shot? Calm down, stay on the line with me. Like I said, we have an officer on the scene, and we have other officers on the line."

Caller: "Oh, my God. They better hurry up. Someone is on the ground. Oh, my God! I see out my back window, sidewalk, grass, something is really bad. There is a man out here with a flashlight."

Dispatcher: "Is this person laying down in the street?"

Caller: "No, it's from my back window."

Dispatcher: "So is the person laying down in the street or in the grass?"

Caller: "The grass. Oh, my God! I think there is another gentleman with a flashlight. ... I think police. Oh, my God! He shot, he shot the person.He says he shot the person. He said he shot the person."

Dispatcher: "Who saying they shot who?"

Caller: "The people out there, a guy is raising his hands up, he's saying he shot a person. I think it's a police officer that's with him right now. arrest - uh - oh, my God, why - why (inaudible)"

Dispatcher: "Our officer is there, he has somebody at gunpoint. They're going to handle the situation from here."

Caller: "Oh! Oh, my God, somebody would be shot!"

Dispatcher: "It's probably going to be best if you stay inside your home for the time being, OK?"

Caller:" I know. I can't believe somebody's killed. He was saying help. Why didn't someone come out and help him?"

Dispatcher: "Listen, we don't know if they been killed ..."

Caller: "Yes, the person is dead, laying on the ground."

Dispatcher: "Just because he's laying on the ground don't mean he's passed. We have an ambulance on the way, and we are probably going to pick him up and take him to the hospital."

Caller: "I didn't see cause it was too dark, and I just heard people screaming 'help me, help me.' And this person shot him! He was like wrestling with him, you know what I mean, on the ground, from what I can see it was very dark. The man didn't try to run away or anything. I don't want to be a witness or anything. I'm scared. Oh, my god, a young boy, I can't imagine, I haven't seen anyone killed. This is a nice neighborhood. Oh, my God, I'm too scared to live here."

Dispatcher: "You don't have to worry right now. We have many officers on the way. Two officers on scene right now, we are on scene, OK?"

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7:17 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "Police. I just heard a shot behind my house. They are wrestling outside the back of my porch."

Dispatcher: "You just heard one shot go off?""

Caller: "It was either that or a rock at the window or something else. The guy's yelling 'help,' and I'm not going to help."

Dispatcher: "So you can hear someone yelling for help?"

Caller: "I'm pretty sure the guy is dead out here. Holy s***"

Dispatcher: "OK, we have several people calling in. Anything else that you heard?"

Caller: "A guy yelling, 'help.' Oh, my God! There is a guy with a flashlight in the backyard now. I think there's flashlights and a guy. ... I don't know if that's a cop. "

Dispatcher: "OK, we have several calls. Are you sure when you heard voices it was one person yelling, right?"

Caller: "There were two guys in the yard with flashlights, and there is a black guy down like he's been shot, and he's dead."

Dispatcher: "I have several officers going out there."

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7:17 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "Medical. I think someone has been shot."

Dispatcher: "Why do you think someone has been shot?"

Caller: "Because they are laying in the backyard and a gunshot and they said 'call 911.' Now there are people coming with flashlights ..."

Dispatcher: "And it's in the backyard?"

Caller: "Yes."

Dispatcher: "And someone is laying in the backyard?"

Caller: "Yes, there are people around him now."

Dispatcher: "You there with kids?"

Caller: "Yes, my daughter. He is a black guy."

Dispatcher: "We have units on the way. What do you mean it's a black guy?"

Caller: "There is a black male standing over him."

Dispatcher: "Can you tell me what he's wearing?"

Caller: "I think someone else called 911."

Dispatcher: "You do see officers out there?"

Caller: "Yeah, I think that's the flashlights that we see."

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7:18 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "This is 911, correct? Police or medical. Someone is yelling two doors down from me, screaming, hollering 'help, help, help.' There is an elderly man that lives down there. I don't know. I heard a gunshot. I don't know if it would be ambulance."

Dispatcher: "How many shots did you hear?"

Caller: "One."

Dispatcher: "How long ago?"

Caller: "As soon as I heard that I picked up the phone and called."

Dispatcher: "Before calling 911?"

Caller: "Yes. There is somebody out by my back porch. ... There is someone walking around with a flashlight. The police may already be here. I don't know. Someone is out there with a flashlight, but I did hear something."

Dispatcher: "We do have units there."

Caller: "Oh, my God."

Dispatcher: "And the screaming, was it a male or female you heard?"

Caller: "It sounded to me like a male, and from what I know and I've been here four years, there is an elderly man that lives like four doors down, um, north of me, and I'm inside."

Dispatcher: "Do you think it's coming from your area?"

Caller: "I don't know, ma'am, I'm standing at my back sliding glass door. I don't see anything but a flashlight shining around, but I did hear someone yelling 'help, help, help' or 'oh, my gosh' and something, then moaning and a boom, and I picked up the phone and called."

Dispatcher: "Did you see or hear anything else like a vehicle pulling away?"

Caller: "No, ma'am, because I'm in the back, and in the back there is just a walkway. It could have been someone in the front with a car, I don't know, but I was in the back. It was scary. There is someone still back there with flashlights walking around."

Dispatcher: "There should be someone on the scene ..."

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7:19 p.m. ET

Dispatcher: "Do you need police, fire or medical?"

Caller: "My brother said someone got shot behind our house."

Dispatcher: "Is your brother out there right now?"

Caller: "No, he ran in the house."

Dispatcher: "Do you know who was shot?"

Caller: "No idea. ... I'm inside. It's behind our house. ... Yeah."

Dispatcher: "You didn't see or hear anything else? Did you hear the shot?"

Caller: "I heard something, and my brother ran in the house."

Dispatcher: "My brother saw it."

Dispatcher: "What did you see?"

Caller: "I saw a man laying on the ground screaming who needed help. I was going to go over there to try and help him, but my dog got off the leash, and I ran and got him, and I hurried around and down, and the screaming stopped."

Dispatcher: "Did you see the person get shot?"

Caller: "No."

Dispatcher: Did you know the person who got shot, or did you see the person with the gun?"

Caller: "No, I just heard a shot, and the screaming stopped."

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Officers arrived on the scene at 7:17 p.m. ET, according to a police report.

Officers Timothy Smith and Ricardo Alayo said they noted a black male in a gray hooded sweatshirt lying face-down in the grass, as well as a white male in the area.

"Zimmerman stated that he had shot the subject and was still armed," Smith wrote in a police report.

Smith said he asked Zimmerman to hand over the weapon, a Kel Tec 9 mm, and handcuffed him.

"While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and he was covered in grass, as if he was laying on his back on the ground," Smith wrote in the police report. "Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of the head."

The officers also made several attempts to revive Martin.

When police put Zimmerman in the back of the cruiser, he said, "I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me," according to the police report.

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  1. stacy

    I am completely and utterly outraged !!!! r u people kidding me this was a kid for god sake !!!!! walking home from the store !!!! zimmerman was stalking this boy like prey !!!! He was probably wondering why this wacko guy was following him around !!! think as a teeneger !!! zimmerman approached him the boy was scared and defended him self !!!!! remember people we train our children to defend themselves from strangers RIGHT!!!! MY heart is broken in 2 ,, i have a 16 year old son 5"11 who wheres a hoodie i also wear one too !!! doesnt mean u r a threat !!! there kids !!!! I STRONGLY believe he should get the max sentence !!!!

    March 29, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Anonymous voter

      I don't know. I mean... were you there? Maybe you should reassess your perspective. Imagine you are a puny ridiculous neighborhood watch guy (think paul blart mall cop) and a very aggressive teenager is beating you to a pulp and you keep screaming for help and no one is coming. You happen to have a gun in your pocket – do you use it or not? Stacy... I think you would use it. Really. Now do you still want the maximum sentence?

      March 18, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      I live in Chicago and I am utterly outraged by the fact this is national story with national coverage while on average there are 40 shooting murders in Chicago PER MONTH. Where are all of you outraged about the murder statistics coming out of Chicago??!! And why are those not covered nationally??!! Over the 4th of July weekend, Chicago reported ONLY 70 shootings and 16 deaths, they were happy about this as it was down by 20 shootings from last year! The rest of the nation can react to what its been fed, we in Chicago are dumbfounded as we are trying to react to what happens EVERY DAY.

      July 16, 2013 at 10:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • EdD

      A 6'2" 175 pound 'kid'. Or do you actually believe he looks as young and small as most of the pics show him?

      July 18, 2013 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  2. JJuan Cherry

    JJuan Cherry i had a post just didnt see the requirements in tiny writting i was anxious to push post i sent it dont know where it went but it covered it all

    March 30, 2012 at 3:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
  3. Dirk

    People should focus on the fact that he was a 17teen year old kid shot by a neighbor hood watch captain!!! There's lots of race on race violence from all cultures, colors, religions etc.... Reverse Racism shouldn't even be a term, racism is racism. Its a tragedy that anyone should die because of assumptions, stereotypes, so forth. Justice will be served and hopefully this will bring about some positive change. I think Zimmerman took it to far, and I think he probably shot Trayvon out of self defense because he was paranoid and afraid. The media benefits from the negative stories more then the positive ones and they instill fear and contempt in all of us. So do we act out in anger and violence, or do we start to educate and free ourselves of our stereotypes in each others eyes. Why let the establishment separate and conquer us as a community. Martin Luther King, new how to effect change through non violence, I bet his patience was tested at every level but he stayed the course turned the other cheek until the civil rights movement was recognized. Do you think the media wouldn't have exploited race violence had it broken out and taken the spotlight from the movement? I'm sure we could memorialize Trayvon in a much more positive manner by tearing down racial barriers paranoia, and maybe we could hear more stories on positive integrated communities people helping people. In the end ignorance is the creator of paranoia and racism. Some of us might be a lost cause, but our children will be the ones to effect change. I say less money on bombs and more money on books. In know way do I mean to offend either side, this was a tragedy that should have been avoided. My condolences to Trayvons family.

    March 31, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Anonymous voter

      I agree Dirk. However, what do you think justice is? Because if George did indeed fire in self defense neither Trayvon or George is going to get justice. Sending George to prison because he didn't want to get beaten to a pulp isn't just. Also getting shot because you attacked some guy that was following you isn't just either.

      March 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Jen

    I keep thinking of what was going through Trayvon Martin's mind. That should be the big emphasis in this case. We hear on the news all the time how kids of all ages are abducted and murdered. We try to teach our kids to watch out for the "bad guys" who take advantage of young people-both girls and boys, and then here is Trayvon Martin just minding his own business and some stranger is following him.(I wonder if Trayvon ever heard about serial killers Wayne Williams or Jeffery Dalmner who targeted young black youths) He must have been really freaked out. If he did attack George Zimmerman it was in self defense too. My daughters went to a self defense class that taught them first try to run-(which Trayvon tried to do) and if that doesn't work do what ever you have to do to fight and to go home alive( which Trayvon tried to do but was not successful). Even police have to identify themselves in a chase-George Zimmerman should have listened to the 911 operator and not try to play a policeman.

    April 1, 2012 at 12:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. JamesMc

    The Zimmerman call transcript is inaccurate.
    Here's what is posted.
    Dispatcher: "Do you want to meet with the officer ..."

    Zimmerman: "Tell them to come past the clubhouse and make a left then past mailboxes and they will see my truck ..."

    Here's what was said.

    Dispatcher: "Do you want to meet with the officer?"

    Zimmerman: "Yeah."
    Dispatcher: "Where are you going to meet with them at?"
    Zimmerman: 'Umm, if they come in through the gate.

    Zimmerman: "Tell them to come past the clubhouse and make a left then past mailboxes and they will see my truck ..."

    Why ellipse out where Zimmerman said he was going to meet with the officers?

    April 1, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • shana

      and how would you know this??

      October 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
  6. MOJO

    WITCH HUNT! This happened when? The media has puffed and puffed and blew this thing up! and Now it's a ready for a big trial with emotions and racial tensions and when all the factual evidence is presented at court instead of the pickin and choosen of edited pieces the media feels like showing.... IF it turns out Zim is innocent (if), it will cause a racial protest between people that had nothing to do with it. Thanks obama and media for "setting us up" for what I promise is about to happen.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  7. taf

    white america went for the line about being out numbered in the US and evicted half the mexicans and their legaly killing blacks! Whos next?

    April 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Anonymous voter

      Sure. I believe zimmerman is part white, black, and latino – but whatever.

      March 18, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Harsh

    For all those people who are constantly talking about more crimes of black on white, other crimes not being reported by media etc, they are clearly missing the point that in none of those crimes where the police themselves involved in a massive cover-up and let the criminals go scott-free. Thats the whole point. So no, those instances of crimes are not the same as this case and this case rightly recieved the attention because of the complete break down of the police system

    April 11, 2012 at 7:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. Harsh

    For all those people who are constantly talking about more crimes of black on white, other crimes not being reported by media etc, they are clearly missing the point that in none of those crimes where the police themselves involved in a massive cover-up and let the criminals go scott-free. Thats the whole point. So no, those instances of crimes are not the same as this case and this case rightly recieved the attention because of the complete break down of the police system....

    April 11, 2012 at 8:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
  10. Jesusteama

    GOD is watching over us on a daily basis & HE sees erityvheng that onfolds All I can say is dat HIS word will forever maintain its sharpness as an arrow..HE has promised 2 recompense tribulation on those that trouble thee 1 Thes. 1:6 This shall be the reward of Zimmerman and whosoever that supports HIS action. U won't believe that blacks get pull over by police just because he/she is riding a fancy/flashy car? This madness has to stop! & with unity in CHRIST JESUS, we shall definitely overcome d prevailing situations, & above all, we shall stand up stall. I'm soooooo hurt cuz I'm a young lad, & know how important boys are to their mothers. I'm jus imagining what that woman is going through.

    April 22, 2012 at 6:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. get educated people

    Get educated people...don't be puppets for the media.

    Trayvon – a drug addict and dealer – that drink and skittles he had? used to make a cough syrup mixture to get high on – the pictures they use? 5 years old – go search his facebook and twitter posts and you'll see the type of person Trayvon was...

    not a innocent scared kid, but a thug who chose to keep it real.... when keeping it real goes wrong...

    June 22, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Nina

    SHOW .reminds me of the good old days (Keiser musings pre 2008) .TaM is your best work .if only peolpe had the attention span to absorb your valid and valuable theories of the extractive economy that exists today. Most don't have 5 minutes to spare which is a shame. You are helping to restore the time or era when the family would gather around the big cabinet radio for information and entertainment.Keep up the GREAT work and PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING!!!Cheers,Joe

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  14. Amortemore

    If Trayvon was white no one would be having these stupid conversations

    July 9, 2013 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jahiem Peace

      I dont think this is a white or black issue unless one is already prejudiced. In this day and age there are sadly a few lingering in those dark days! Look at the case in South Africa where black and whites are rallying outside the courtroom hearing the olympic medlist Pretorius' case. Its heartwarming for humanity to rally for justice!

      July 9, 2013 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Jahiem Peace

    PLEASE HELP ME...I wondering why the prosecution is not calling on the store clerkin the video to testify as to the demeanor of Trevon Martn when he served him. The time ths the female witness (Spanish speakin), confronted Zimmerman has not been synced to the 911 calls to help and asertain with Zimmerman was crying fro help!

    Lastly but not list, WHY DID ZIMMERMAN TAKE MATTERS INTO HIS OWN HANDS? He was told not to follow the teenager! He followed the teenager because he did not want him to get away! his ascertionthe THEY always get away is a motive for his actions.

    July 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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