







President Obama's announcement that he now supports same-sex marriage has sparked a global discussion about the issue and what his statements mean for politics and the upcoming election, cultural views, the economy and public perception. There has been a running dialogue as politicians, public figures and others weigh in on the meaning of Obama's announcement.
We'll bring you all of that throughout the day with the latest strands of this story. Let us know what you think about the announcement by having your voice heard on iReport, and leave us your comments below. We'll dig through them and pull out some of the best comments from you as well.
[Updated at 11:58 a.m. ET] Over at Slate.com, an interesting piece by Linda Hirshman points out "Why Obama is able to endorse gay marriage in a way a white Democratic president couldn’t."
The article takes a look at the long history of presidents and figures who have made claims about trying to help the gay community, but never got traction or were told to shy away from it. Hirshman also issues a reminder: It was Colin Powell who actually slammed then-President Bill Clinton's attempts to repeal the exclusion of gays in the military. At the time Powell said gays couldn't use racial bias as a reason to rise up against the expulsion.
But these days, race and sexuality have been large parts of America's changing winds when it comes to equality.
So what's changed? And why Obama? And does it really help or hurt if he's black? Hirshman says yes, history and racial issues led our first black president to a place where he was able to make this statement in a profound way.
"A simple thought experiment reveals the issue: Try to imagine Don King in black churches exhorting congregations to vote against Barack Obama over gay marriage. Not going to happen," she writes. "In this way, the president was uniquely suited among Democratic politicians to advance the issue (just as Powell could have done in 1993). Until today, Obama’s mealy-mouthed and harmful public statements on gay marriage looked suspiciously Powell-esque. But as happens now and then to Barack Obama, history gave him an opportunity no one else could seize, and he did."
Another source said the recent events gave renewed life to old jokes and flippant remarks like, "Hello? Does he know this is the Obama presidency not the Biden presidency?"
None of these sources said they believed it would create a lasting rift between the West Wing and the vice president's office – because Biden has gone off script before and will do it again.
[Updated at 11:39 a.m. ET] Some columnists and voters have said everyone needs to hold off on the congratulations for Obama. After all, they say, he merely made his viewpoint heard but isn't actually doing anything to change equality for members of the LGBT community. Many are pushing for him to go even further than just saying what he personally supports.
Ben Adler, writing for Reuters, says that if Obama really wants to do something for the LGBT community he should push for passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. ENDA would essentially ban discrimination in the workplace based on your sexual orientation.
"If Obama gave a campaign speech in which he called on Congress to pass ENDA and demanded that Romney do the same, he would stick Romney between a rock and a hard place," he wrote.
[Updated at 11:19 a.m. ET] The pundits have had plenty to say following Obama's announcement. And it spurred a slew of statements from politicians and conservative and liberal groups.
But one of the biggest movements came in the social media world where everyday people around the world, politicians and celebrities let it rip in 140 characters about how they felt.
It is perhaps a quick way to check the pulse of the public's view of Obama's announcement. Here are some of the best, funniest, most poignant or interest tweets we've seen.
We stand w/Pres. Obama - love doesn't have a color, love doesn't care if you're gay or straight. Love doesn't discriminate #MarriageEquality
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Antonio Villaraigosa (@villaraigosa) May 09, 2012
It's still the economy, and we're not stupid RT @nikkibama More importantly #TeamMittens, go after Obama on economic issues!!!!!!!!!!
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Joseph (@Joseph_MSU) May 10, 2012
Those against gay marriage: in 20 yrs you'll be the villains in an Oscar-nominated movie about the gay rights struggle. Just an FYI.
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Devin Faraci (@devincf) May 10, 2012
Flip-flopping is when you change positions for clear and obvious political expediency. Like Obama on drilling or Romney on everything.
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Marc Lamont Hill (@marclamonthill) May 10, 2012
Feels to me that today, Obama became the president America elected three years ago.
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Othman Laraki (@othman) May 10, 2012
We would also be remiss if we didn't point out how quickly after Obama's announcement a new Tumblr popped up. Following on the success of several other blogs filled with gifs and photos such as TextFromHillary, right after Obama's statement that he supported same-sex marriage a new one came to fill the void left by the faux texts of Secretary Clinton: When Obama Endorsed Marriage Equality.
[Updated at 11:10 a.m. ET] Will Obama's support for same-sex marriage swing the election towards social issues? It's hard to say. The election cycle has been mostly dominated by a frustration among Americans with the current state of the economy. With the number of unemployed people still at a rate deemed unacceptable and with homeowners still struggling to unload homes often worth markedly less than years ago, it is no doubt it's considered the number one issue in this race to the White House by most voters and our poll of readers.
"Remember, Republicans characterized the war on women as a Democratic strategy to divert attention from the "real issue" of the economy," Granderson wrote. "Over the next couple of days we'll see if the GOP will be as dismissive with gay rights. Or will the fact that in 2004, George W. Bush successfully used discrimination against the gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender (GLBT) community to motivate his base be too juicy a strategy for Romney and the gang to pass up?"
Granderson argues that Obama's move separates him from Romney in the biggest way - his conviction - and moves him into the class of an Abraham Lincoln, FDR, John F. Kennedy or Lyndon Johnson in the realm of presidents:
"Men who risked a great deal personally to move the country forward socially," Granderson wrote. "And given the fact that he can point to the 12 consecutive months of job losses before taking office and the 26 consecutive months (and counting) of job growth since 2010, there's no reason to believe the economy will cease to be his campaign's top focus. As it should be. We'll find out if the GOP agrees."
[Updated at 10:45 a.m. ET] President Obama's election was in large part boosted by the youth vote as well as from African-Americans who went to the polls hoping to see the first black president elected. But when it comes to same-sex marriage, the African-American community is a divided one. And Time contributor Touré, author of "Who's Afraid of Post-Blackness? A Look At What It Means To Be Black Now," wonders whether this most recent announcement could damage Obama's allure in the South, in heavily religious states and with black Americans.
"With blacks lagging behind the country on marriage equality but still a crucial bloc for Obama, the White House has made a courageous bet that black voters won’t punish him and that being on the right side of history will not eventually hurt him," Touré wrote. "Obama has seemed to want to overtly support marriage equality for a while — a year ago he said gays 'are our brothers, our sisters, our children, our cousins, our friends, our coworkers, and they’ve got to be treated like every other American. … I think we’re moving in a direction of greater equality and — and I think that’s a good thing.' ”
Touré wonders whether Obama will be able to pull off the delicate balancing act of trying to be a president who follows his beliefs instead of doing things that ensure his re-election.
"Does it mean Obama would rather stand on principle and lose than be a politician and win? Or perhaps he sees this as part of a victory strategy that rebrands himself as the courageous politician who will take hard stands and will stand up for the people," he wrote.
[Updated at 10:25 a.m. ET] Many of our iReporters and commenters have had strong reactions to Obama's announcement. We posed the question to iReporters: What would you say to Obama about his remarks?
John Richardson said he was thankful for Obama "coming out of the closet" for gay Americans. But he questioned Obama's statements that same-sex marriage is ultimately a states' rights issue over a civil rights one.
He referenced North Carolina's recent vote to ban same-sex marriage and wondered what Obama's comments meant to a gay couple in North Carolina.
"They didn't decide to be gay, and they definitely didn't decide to be born in North Carolina. In my opinion, leaving it to the states to decide forces the gay community to choose between the lesser of two evils: leaving your home or leaving your principles."
Richardson said this could be the biggest move Obama makes if he does it correctly.
"You have the opportunity here to take a historically profound stance," he said. "You could be the president that brought equality to all."
Richardson brings up an interesting point about states' rights. Many have varying view points on same-sex marriage as well as civil unions. CNN's Tom Foreman breaks down what each state's laws are.
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[Updated at 9:56 a.m. ET] The reach of Obama's announcement has gone much farther than just the United States. The issue of same-sex marriage is one that reaches global proportions as well, and in some cases, Obama's words have led campaigners to push for marriage equality worldwide.
Obama's decision to openly endorse same-sex marriage won plaudits from campaigners worldwide who have been pushing for more liberal laws since the first same-sex couples walked down the aisle in the Netherlands in 2001.
CNN photos: 'Commitment' project focuses on long-term gay couples
[Updated at 9:36 a.m. ET] Frida Ghitis, a world affairs columnist for The Miami Herald and World Politics Review, wrote in a column for CNN that Obama's endorsement does not undo the fact that he has a mixed record on gay rights. It's a problem that has led the gay community has derided him for his "cowardice" on gay issues, she says.
Ghitis, a former CNN producer and correspondent, and author of "The End of Revolution: A Changing World in the Age of Live Television," said that how Obama's move plays with the gay community may depend on whether he has the actions to back up his words. While Obama's team deserves credit for the political maneuver, she said, there's plenty of federal discrimination that has to end.
"Obama's claims that he cares about equality for gays have not seemed sincere. Now that he has emphatically stated that same-sex marriage should be legal, he ought to make passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act a priority," Ghitis writes. "He should take a stand personally, not through press releases and spokesmen, against discrimination. He should support the bill that calls for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act. Now he should follow up his landmark statement with actions that will have practical, not just symbolic impact.
"And while that will go a long way, this race is a marathon, not a sprint," she says.
"The decision to at long last finish the evolution and come out in support of gay marriage is a major step. But, Mr. President, when it comes to fighting discrimination, there are principles to defend, promises to keep and miles to go before you sleep."
[Updated at 9:26 a.m. ET] Benefits, benefits. benefits. One of the big issues at the heart of the same-sex marriage debate has often been the inequality not just to get married but to get the benefits to go along with it. Will any of that change after Obama's announcement?
CNNMoney's Blake Ellis reports that advocates are hopeful that Obama's decision will bring gay couples one step closer to equal treatment on taxes, Social Security and other important financial matters.
His decision, advocates said, could help spur support for the eventual repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, a 1996 law that reserves marriage for a man and a woman.
The law, known as DOMA, is at the root of differences in how gay couples are treated under federal law.
"Just because the president comes out and stands on the right side of history doesn't mean Congress will move faster" to repeal DOMA, said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. "But this will go far to raise the visibility of the economic inequities of same-sex couples."
[Updated at 9:16 a.m. ET] Charles Kaiser, author of "The Gay Metropolis" and "1968 in America," wrote in a column for CNN that he believes giving support to same-sex marriage is Obama's most courageous move yet.
Kaiser, a former reporter for The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, and a former press critic for Newsweek, said his stance on gay rights has an effect similar to Civil Rights Act.
"Coming after his successful strategy to get Congress to repeal don't ask, don't tell so that gays and lesbians can serve openly in the military and the decision of his Justice Department to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act in federal courts, he has now done nearly as much for gay people as Lyndon Johnson did for African-Americans with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965," he wrote. "People like me, who were among his most passionate supporters in 2008, felt a sense of gigantic relief. The man who seemed like such a courageous candidate four years ago finally sounded like a genuinely courageous president."
[Updated at 9:03 a.m. ET] Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage on Wednesday outraged conservative Christian leaders, who vowed to use it as an organizing tool in the 2012 elections, but the move is also activating the liberal base, raising big questions about who gains and loses politically.
“It cuts both ways: It activates both Democratic and Republican base voters,” said John Green, an expert on religion and politics at the University of Akron. “The most likely effect is that it makes an already close election even closer.”
While social issues may not turn the election, it certainly will influence voters.
CNN's Belief Blog takes a look at how the move might galvanize conservatives and those who are against same-sex marriage to help Republican candidate Mitt Romney, but it could also help Obama gain critical support from those who see the cultural landscape changing and agree with his views.
[Updated at 9:00 a.m. ET] Let's talk about the elephant in the room. It's an election year. Many pundits and members have questioning how much of Obama's statement was a political move to gain ground on Mitt Romney? And what does the likely GOP presidential nominee think about all of this?
After Obama's announcement, Romney reaffirmed his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. The presumptive GOP nominee said he believed states should have the ability to extend some rights to gay couples, short of marriage.
[Updated at 8:57 a.m. ET] Much of the early focus has been on Obama's changing views on same-sex marriage. Have his views changed or "evolved"? Is he flip-flopping on the issue? When did he make the decision to make his viewpoint heard? How has he felt about the issue in the past? And why did he decide to say something now?
To help put things in perspective, there's no better way than looking at the very words Obama has used over the past few years.
[Updated at 8:52 a.m. ET] President Barack Obama's announcement that he now supports same-sex marriage came sooner than planned as a result of comments made by Vice President Joe Biden, he said in an interview broadcast Thursday.
"I had already made a decision that we were going to probably take this position before the election and before the convention," Obama told ABC's "Good Morning America," referring to the Democratic National Convention in September.
Biden "probably got out a little bit over his skis, but out of generosity of spirit," the president said.
He added that he would have "preferred to have done this in my own way, on my own terms," but "all's well that ends well."
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@yeahright it says children of Israel not actually kids..
And another point to add what i posted was from God directly the verse you speak on about the stoning of "Israel's Children" was spoken by Moeses.. And it is a metaphor or parable type verse meaning though shall not give seeds to the enemy..
Keep your religion and your gods out of my home.........
"@yeahright it says children of Israel not actually kids.."
It's actually in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 to kill their disobedient children with stones.
If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death.
Don't you just love the bad morality in the bible.
Amendment XV gave black people the right to vote in 1870. How many people would have voted for that? In 1920, women received the right to vote in the United States with the passage of the 19th Amendment. How many people at that time would have voted to pass that bill? The 1964 Civil Rights Act made racial discrimination in public places, such as theaters, restaurants and hotels, illegal. How many people in North Carolina would have voted for that? Now... how can a reasonable person of the 21st century believe it's right and proper to vote on gay civil rights? Yeah sure... this is the home of the free and the brave.
What a JOKE.
its the economy stupid
What a waste of time. This president has to go.
I think that gay people should not formally marry as that is a religious thing but, the should come up with something thats like marriage but, not the same thing. That way they can have their contract but it doesn't effect anyone religoius beliefs. Its a compromise so that no ones rights are violated.
If marriage is a religious thing, do atheists have the right to marry?
I actually think that thats a good idea. Fair enough.
All those that say marriage is a religious thing, does that mean if a couple is married by the Justice of the Peace at a courthouse that their marriage isn't valid? I don't understand this view at all – marriage may be defined in the Bible as a man & woman but it is a legal binding above all. Those married in a church aren't MORE married than those not. A gay couple should have the same legal rights. If a church chooses not to marry them that is the church's perogative.
Just a political strategy to get votes.... There should be no role in government on this subject. Leave it to the church and individuals to define marriage. Married couples should not be rewarded wether they are gay or not. We single people get no rewards for being single. Leave marriage out of the conversation of politics and we would not be talking about this ignorant crap today. If your church allows gay marriage then so be it but the states and Federal government should stay out of the personal lives of individuals. Plan and simple gay marriage and marriage should not be a political strategy to get votes. I dont care if your for it or against it. Ron Paul 2012!!!
economy economy economy this is to take away our attention and media goes along with it
"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." Abraham Lincoln
He had my vote when he was closer to the center, but now that he's taken this sharp left turn, I likely won't vote at all. Its sad that all we have to choose from is whackos on the extreme right or whackos on the extreme left.
don't forget the economy
If Obama is a "fraud", as you so delicately put is, then what would Mitt Romney be classified?
This is how I describe Mittens Romney.
The biggest issue I hear in regards to same-se x marriage is the impact it will have on us or our children. I still don't understand that concept. Are you saying if this allowed it will somehow encourage our children to seek an alternative lifestyle ? Will this cause my wife and I to get divorced ? If you feel so, answer me how and why ?
Many people say this against gods law. If that's the case, wouldn't that between the individuals and god ?
What is it you like to say ? Oh yeah, "Judge not lest ye be judged."
It's time for people to mind their own business.
3% of the US population is gay. Why is so much attention paid to this in elections and news coverage? I'm not saying it isn't an issue – just saying that making it a political lightning rod and lead story is a bit much. Sometimes with media coverage and political pandering, it is easy to forget that 3% of the population is gay, 1% is jewish, 1% is atheist, 1% is muslim. (And I'm part of one of these groups)
If gays are so ill and need to be fixed and discriminated against then we need to include people that have cleft lips, left handed, heart valve malformations, one leg longer than the other, people who need glasses, women who have severe PMS, those with allergies, ect. Everyone has something that is not considered normal. Take off the bible goggles and start treating people with love and compassion. You will probably live longer.
Obama will win the war of "character" and garner support for those who respect the man even when they disagree on issues.
With the announcement of supprt for gay marriage, Obama has captured the high ground not so much on the issue but on character. He has distinguished himself as one who will stand up for what he believes whether or not it is politically expedient.
He stands in stark contrast to Romney who bends to the political wind and shifts left, then right, then left to speak what he thinks that voters want to hear.
I vote Republican I support: gay marriage, the Dream Act, and I'm Pro-Choice. I vote republican because I believe in PERSONAL responsibility and accountability, which I feel are not emphasized by Democrats.
I am 34 year old, married, white male from Michigan and I work as a nurse (Greg RN). Every day I interact with people of every demographic known and thoroughly enjoy learning about other cultures and traditions. Our medical team consists of: Indian, African, Mexican, and Czech, gay, straight Americans who every day are able to work cohesively and produce positive results; we have a goal and together we achieve it.
I feel the majority of us all want the same thing, the ability to succeed personally and professionally, yet we seem to focus and amplify our trivial differences which hinder progress for everyone. The incessant vitriol spewed back and forth across party lines is disgraceful and hurtful to everyone involved. For example, I always felt I had a "live and let live" mentality, but as it turns out I apparently hate everybody not straight and white because politicians and those that oppose my view told me I do. I come to the comment section of CNN because it makes me see things from different perspective that I had not previously experienced, and although I have an opinion, I understand it too is evolving.
Congratulations to President Obama for making a brave decision and congratulations to everyone else that will be affected positively from this.
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greg:
Grest post. We live across the lake near Milwaukee and my wife is an ICU RN at a major hospital here and l'm a Pt. time EMT-P as well as IT guy full time. As you stated we see all types of folks in our day to day activites. We generally vote the other side of the isle from you (ie Democratic) but other than that I think our views are propbably pretty similar if you start to look at them one at a time.
Now if we could get the 535 men & women in DC to do the same thing maybe they'd actually get somethng done for a change. Have a great day hope work isn't too crazy.
Those of us, who believe God's Word to be true, will stand firmly on the infallible Word of God. We must not be conformed to this world but, be ye transformed by the renewing of your minds. President Obama’s worldly actions are representative of a sin sick generation and the thoughts of “one” man. Complete obedience is a requirement of a spirit filled believer, As one transforms their hearts and minds must be changed to come under submission to the fallible Word of God (which never changes or fails) This means a separation between the body of Christ and those who do not know (or choose to not know). I love and pray for not only President Obama and all man whether straight or gay “Jew or Gentile”. Nevertheless, our nation(s) as a whole must stop rejecting the infallible Word God. God says “My sheep will hear My voice therefore, for me and my house we serve God.
“Where there is a lack of wisdom the children will perish”
In Jesus Holy Name Amen.
The word of God is quite different from the words in the Bible. Though the bible make a good guideline to morals and life, the bible was written by HUMANS... prone to mistakes and opinions. That does NOT make it the word of God.
I respect your beliefs, but our government has nothing to do with your religion.
Ms. Phelps. that "Word of God" you refer to has been changed many times by man over the centuries. The book was written by men. Nowhere did "God" put pen to paper.
Any email I get that ends with In Jesus' Holy Name, Amen, I regard as spam.
Its kind of like any other hot button issue in society. It occupies our time for a while and peaks our interest. It is driven by the polorizing nature of the media and what they decide we should be talking about. Oh heck at the end of the day it is like anything else in society....we will look back 20 yrs from now once we get the baby boomers out of congress and overturn these stupid laws. My kids will be taught equality.....and that is the most important thing. People speak of change from the inside....I think instead we need to focus on change from the outside...teach the kids the right way to think and eventually we will overcome this negative way of thinking. I support gay marriage and so does my family.