September 12th, 2012
03:29 AM ET

Chicago school strike hits third day

Talks were set to start again Wednesday morning with Chicago's school board and striking public school teachers seemingly miles apart from reaching a deal to get 350,000 children back in school.

And as rhetoric and accusations came from both sides, mothers like Terrilyn Alexander scrambled to turn her family dining room into a classroom. Alexander and her husband are giving their three children four hours of schoolwork daily and say they can't help but resent it.

"What bothers me is the selfishness," Alexander told CNN affiliate WBBM. "The fact is, there should never be a reason to keep children out of school."

Talks ended Tuesday night with neither side expressing optimism that an agreement was near.

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  1. "Educated"

    "You may be sorry about the conditions in which the questions arise. The thing to do iis to try to help them get out of their intellectual confinement, which is not just accidental.
    There are HUGE efforts that go into making people [educated]." (cont)

    September 12, 2012 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
  2. "Educated"

    "To borrow Adam Smith's phrase, "as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be." A lot of the educational system is designed for that...it's designed for obedience and passivity." (cont)

    September 12, 2012 at 8:24 am | Report abuse |
  3. "Educated"

    "From childhood on, a lot of it (our systems of education) is designed to PREVENT people from being independat and creative. If you're independant minded in school, you're probably going to get in trouble early on. That's not the trait that's being preferred or cultivated." (cont)

    September 12, 2012 at 8:36 am | Report abuse |
  4. "Educated"

    "When people live through all of this stuff, plus corporate propaganda, plus television, plus the press and the whole mess, the deluge of ideological distortion that goes on, they (people in general) ask questions that from another point of view are completely reasonable."-Noam Chomsky (explaining where stupid questions come from, and hinting at how repulsive it is to observe the avg. American mind being forced to aquire knowledge that will never become wisdom)

    September 12, 2012 at 8:42 am | Report abuse |
  5. Reasons to keep kids out of school

    1.) School districts nationwide refuse to offer our children safe passage to and from school as mandated by Congress. (still no seatelts and airbags on school busses after all these years of having these technologies protecting US adults)
    2.) A climate of fear is allowed to exist at school where serious students are subjected to not-serious students who go to school to play rather than learn, daily. School becomes a little society rather than a place of learning. Independant dress is permitted and even encouraged, but independant speech is shunned and will get you expelled anyway.
    3.) Children who were homeschooled are much brighter than children who were publicly schooled. (a statistic)
    4.) School as a babysitter and a feeder. School is to feed your mind, not your belly. Children who eat breakfast at home are smart, at school, dumb. (generally speaking)
    5.) Might I suggest not allowing your bright child to attend public school more than two years in a row between years of homeschooling. ty

    September 12, 2012 at 8:59 am | Report abuse |
  6. Pete

    A lot with this strike is more about the students,their health and wellbeing more than the increase in salaries.These teachers care,they're mentors,babysitters,the shoulder to cry on,the atm machine if a student doesn't have money for a meal and a person put there to monitor the students while in their care..Teachers are complaining of delapidated class rooms,no air conditioning in 95 degree heat,that's an unhealthy enviroment for any student seated in a closed classroom.Teachers need help making it more healthy,more comforting ,more teacher,student friendly if learning wants to go on..These educational board members are the ones to blame,not the teachers,not students but these two ultimitly pay the price with less learning from students and teachers uncomfortable as well.A happy student is a learning student and a happy teacher won't have to strike to be heard.The choice board members is up to you,either make the required changes or take a hike,new members who care are always around!!!

    September 12, 2012 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  7. NEA

    Less work, more money, no accountability, job security. Don't bother me that we make $75,000 per year while the average Chicagoan makes $45,000. If you want your brats to have a fifty five percent graduation rate with third grade reading proficiency, you will meet my demands.

    September 12, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      @NRA,why don't you try taking care for over 40 kids in some class,I did as a volunteer..Don't talk about anything without facts.You're delushional as well as reactionary ,acting without thinking,isn't that of what Romneys always quilty of often sticking his foot in his mouth or backstepping his statements...Most teachers are under payed as well as under appreciated,try that job for a week,you'll be a stronger advocate for teachers afterward!!

      September 12, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
  8. bobcat (in a hat)©

    @ Pete

    I fully agree with you. Everyone always so quick to blame the teacher for the students lack of education. In reality, the teachers are dealing with a generation that is not only unwilling to learn, but also are a disruption to those who want to learn. The education system in the US has been put on the back burner by our politicians and then complain that we are falling behind the rest of the world in acheivement. Well, I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways.
    In a lot of areas, teachers are afraid to even go into the schools.
    Education needs to start in the home, ie, teaching your children some matters and how to interact politely with others in public.
    I have a great respect for the teachers for their attempts to teach those that don't want to learn.

    September 12, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      I love the people who have never set foot in a CHICAGO classroom, (note I said Chicago) who feel they are leading authorities on this particular school system.
      They aren't.
      Neither am I, but being *very* familiar with the system says I do know a bit more than some guy in say, Va or OH or TX...
      Although I DO think that the Chicago teachers are over stepping their bounds and asking for more than is feasible, the people who have absolutely no clue as to what teachers face everyday, yet insist that they, of course, have the answers, "Fire them all!", et al, crack me up .
      They have no idea of the reality that is Chicago, and the ones who are the most vocal on this issue, (and I'm NOT talking about this thread, but the one the other day) are people who have never stepped into Chicago *at all*, let alone one of their classrooms.
      The people who have the most to gripe about, but whose voice I have seen the least here, are Chicagoans.

      September 12, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Notice, bobcat, that I did say one thing that I will repeat:
      I am not talking about anyone on this thread, but the one the other day.

      September 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat (in a hat)©

      @ banasy

      Though I have been in Chicago, I have never been in one of their schools. I would assume the inner city schools are much the way are/were in Detroit. When i first returned to Detroit from the army, I was totally shocked to see they were literally locking those children in all day, with armed gaurds roaming the halls and grounds.
      I can imagigine what must go through a teachers mind while having to work in these kind of conditions. In these circ umstances, I can not see any amount of pay that would make it worth it. But, I truly have to respect these teachers for facing up to those kinds of adversities and still trying to give these children an education.
      And I agree too. If you've never seen this type of environment, you have nothing you can add to this conversation.

      Your repeat is duly noted.

      September 12, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Unfortunately, it seems that the State of Michigan has given up on Detroit...a pity, because the Motor City used to really rock...

      September 12, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat (in a hat)©

      That is correct banasy. It "used" to rock. I honestly don't know what happened to the school system in that short 8 year period i was gone from Detroit. It used to have one of the best systems in the country. We had grade A teachers, and students that gave a damn. When I returned, it was almost like third wordly. Needless to sy, that is one of the things that drove my decision to move south. We still have a good system down here. How long it will last though, is anyones guess.
      And this evaluation they are talking about, is it to certify that the teachers actually know what their doing ?

      September 12, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Mayhaps

    Perhaps if our schools were ran by prescription writers we would spend more on education and less on drugs.
    But then our hospitals would be ran by teachers. (shrug)

    September 12, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Post 9/11 Era of Education

    Congress voted-in the largest increase in federal prison funding EVER right after 9/11, to "house the thousands of terrorists sure to be arrested". By now, we all know who those extra prisons are really for. (obviously not international terrorists)
    That same Congress voted-in decreased education funding. (the increase didn't even cover inflation, and so a net decrease)
    You can thank whomever financed 9/11 for our lack of education.

    September 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Post 9/11 Era of Education

    Where do many uneducated individuals end-up? That's right. In prison. In the Army or in the street gang, but eventually, in prison oftentimes.
    Prison vs. Education. (now you know the score) It is the top of the 9th inning, btw. Prisons are way ahead. Who will win?

    September 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      That's a false choice, proposing that going to school will prevent criminal behavior so it's one or the other. Half the public school I went to has since been incarcerated. And the school was little more than a warehouse for them while they were there. Not all people are educable, and the uneducated still see things they want, so they procure these things illegally. That's life in the melting pot.

      September 12, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Welfare Mom of 8

    If I had internet access, I would log on and gripe with the rest of you.

    September 12, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Well, since you don't work, why don't you home-school your kids?

      September 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  13. banasy©

    Lol.

    September 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  14. sholom eichler

    its very difficult

    September 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |