David A. Rice feels like Mitt Romney wrote him off.
The 61-year-old has always been a values-based voter, generally votes Republican and could be a key vote in the swing state of Florida. But he's also among the 47% of Americans that Mitt Romney said don't pay income tax and rely on government support.
"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney says in a clip from a secretly filmed private donor meeting in May, which was first posted on Monday afternoon. "There are 47% who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."
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Rice says he is working part-time and doesn't pay taxes because he can't find a good job. And the fact that Romney wrote him off in those comments is frustrating.
"I am insulted. I support you and you just wrote me off with the 47% who pay no taxes. In that group are those who cry every time they use food stamps; people who would trade them in a minute for a real job. In that group are Christians who shudder at the thought of voting for abortion and gay rights," he wrote in an iReport. "You have strengths that appeal to the demographic you just wrote off ... use it! In the middle of rich supporters you cannot afford to write off a huge group with a careless word."
The 61-year-old said that he has been forced once or twice to take food stamps - and unlike what Romney contends in his comments - he maintains it was not something he was proud of or hopes to ever have to do again.
"It really hurt me," the iReporter told CNN. "It was not something that I wanted to do, I did it because I didn't have a job."
Rice says he didn't think it was right for Romney to lump every low-income person into the same group.
"Not everyone who takes food stamps is a food stamps junkie," Rice told CNN. "There are people who think the government owes them a living and that the government ought to take care of them and be their momma and daddy all their life. That doesn't apply to everyone."
It all left Rice a bit uneasy.
Which leads to the big questions swirling around the Romney campaign: How much damage will Romney's comments do to his chances for winning the election? Were his comments a big enough gaffe, combined with previous missteps, to really dent his campaign? Were his comments just the brutal truth others don't want to hear? Will it sway the votes of Republicans, independents or the undecided?
Rice says he'll still be voting for Romney because of the candidate's social views. But he knows it may not be the same for others.
"I think it was a mistake on his part because he insulted a lot of people who he needs to vote for him," he said.
CNN asked our readers on Facebook what they thought about the remarks and more than 71% said Romney was wrong and should apologize. Twenty-four percent of readers who answered our unscientific poll said he was right, and it was something someone needed to say. Just about 4.5% felt that Romney was right but shouldn't have phrased the remarks the way he did.
Nevin Sanli, from Los Angeles, California, said he is in the 47% and Romney's recent remarks, as well as other gaffes, have sealed his decision to vote for Obama.
"I never took a penny in help or government assistance money or otherwise. I own two businesses, and all I have been doing, along with my business partners, is creating jobs. I am not a victim," Sanli said in response to the CNN poll on Facebook. "I worked hard and built it all from scratch and I pay a lot of taxes. I am not as rich as Romney, but I sure pay a much bigger percentage of my income in taxes than he does. I find his remarks to be un-American, shocking and insulting."
And definitely unbecoming a president, he added.
"Elitism, silver-spoon arrogance and outright divisive statements, with undertones of racism, cannot be attributes of an American president," Sanli wrote.
For his part, Romney has stood behind the comments from the secretly recorded video. They were an honest reflection of his campaign's message, he said.
"This is a message I'm carrying day in and day out and will carry over the coming months," Romney said on Fox News. "This is a decision about the course of America, where we're going to head. We've seen the president's policies play out over the last four years."
Kristopher Daughtrey agreed with those tough words and took them to show that Romney won't shy away from the truth and will stick to his convictions.
"I applaud Romney for his remarks. He's the only one willing to not sugarcoat it. I'm not a huge supporter of either party, but at least Romney has the guts to speak out frankly about it, instead of Obama, Congress, and other politicians trying to justify their actions constantly or running away with their tail between their legs," Daughtrey said. "If you're going to be president then you need to have the backbone to walk the walk and not just talk about it."
Jason Asselin, an iReporter from Iron Mountain, Michigan, is an independent who says that he generally votes for the best candidate, despite their affiliation, though he likes the ideas and stances of the tea party.
While Asselin is normally a critic of Obama, he said Romney's comments really angered him because he doesn't pay taxes, but it isn't because he doesn't want to.
"I try paying taxes each year and every year they say we don't make enough, it isn't that I don't want to pay my taxes - they won't take them," he says. "Our government put rules and regulations in place for the lower class of people. It isn't our fault for falling under that. I don't like being called the 47%, I'd like to be called American."
Asselin said he is frustrated that Romney makes assumptions about how he will vote. And he is not alone.
Jeff Zicker, 21, might have been a candidate for the 47% category. He's college-aged, but left college because he landed a job performing with a national Broadway tour. He worked two jobs all through college, and these days he pays all his taxes, which puts him in the 53% category.
“For (Romney) to say his plan only appeals to those who don’t victimize themselves just further proves how out of touch he is with the rest of the American public,” he said.
Zicker is a moderate Democrat who will be voting for Obama this fall.
“I honestly believe that somebody that would say that a large of a portion of Americans, that this group victimizes themselves and tries to appeal to voters in that way, I don’t think that shows that they would be fit in any way to be president," he said.
But others say that Romney is merely beginning a dialogue that many Americans refuse to have. Steven Evans said that he thinks the discussion is an important one as the country moves forward.
"It is time to start a national dialogue on whether we are creating a major dependency class," he said on Facebook. "I am glad to see him tell the truth. Let's decide whether we are going the way of Greece or the traditional USA."
But some believe that having that conversation with only half of the country is problematic.
“It’s not in touch with what America’s values are and what we should be in a country," Zicker said of Romney's comments. "At the end of the day, we’re all connected. What I do affects you economically and socially. We shouldn’t see it as an one-for-all system.”
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Of course, Obama hates Isreal & GOD & the USA – face it liberals he hates you too unless your writing him a check
I think all those that support freeloaders should be in the higher tax bracket that way the rest of us can choose where we want to donate and help out. Cause I am tired of all these bleeding hearts feeling sorry for them. They smoke weed drink and keep having babies they can't afford.....and laugh how the government owes them.... You people all need to get ur heads out of ur azzes.....the current so called President is not a leader....he is the most spineless weak president we have had in 50 years......he needs to go. Show the world we are not a bunch of ninnies like him!
i completely agree! go romney!!! thanks for posting.
And you think this one's not spineless? You're going to be eating your words.
David Rice shudders at the idea of gay rights and abortion. I shudder at the idea that he is just another voter interested in taking away people's rights. Comments from people like him lack 'value'. I don't care where he falls 47 vs 53%. You're in my 0%!
It's not a sin to sometimes, in the heat of the moment, tell a segment of your base what they want to hear; that's politics. but romney has displayed a significant pattern of making remarks that indicate either he is politically incompetent or genuinely un-caring about half of the country
Omitt Romney!
Oh my, how have we changed.
“The trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some [wealth] redistribution - because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”
Barck Obama, 1998
"I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious".
"To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it".
"I’m a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it".
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
Its laughable to compare Jefferson with Romney.
Looks more like he is comparing Jefferson to Obama.
Great display of the differences between Nobama and Jefferson. I just can't understand who so many people cannot see his true intentions. They are hidden in plain sight.
You dopes do understand that 10 percent of those are elderly, about 7 percent are those making under 20,000, and the rest pay payroll tax but do not pay income tax largely due to the BUSH TAX CUTS. You understand that right?
What the heck is this guy talking about??? I'm in the 47% but then make a statement like this?!?!
"Nevin Sanli, from Los Angeles, California, said he is in the 47% and Romney's recent remarks, as well as other gaffes, have sealed his decision to vote for Obama.
"I never took a penny in help or government assistance money or otherwise. I own two businesses, and all I have been doing, along with my business partners, is creating jobs. I am not a victim," Sanli said in response to the CNN poll on Facebook. "I worked hard and built it all from scratch and I pay a lot of taxes. I am not as rich as Romney, but I sure pay a much bigger percentage of my income in taxes than he does. I find his remarks to be un-American, shocking and insulting."
I think its about time we get three candidates to choose from, democrat, republican, and INDEPENDANT. I don't care for either of these jokers. It's a little ridiculous that these two are the best our country has to offer. Obama criticize Romney for his lack of experience in foreign policy when he has the least amount of experience in politics as a whole out of any president in history. Ashame on us as a nation for letting that happen. Romney, seems to speak first and think later on almost everything he says. I do agree with a part of his 47% speech, because there are alot of poeple out there that milk the system because its easier than actually working. I know people that have turned down jobs because they make just as much on unemployment. We have big problems in this country and time to stop voting the party line or we will never get out of this. Change our govenment and the rest will fall into place.
now you are talking, This two party system is a true joke. Like one side is totally right? Like one side is totally wrong? Insane to think in such a huge, industrious, progressive (lol, maybe not) society, that we only have two options for MILLIONS of people. 2 options for managing Trillions of dollars.
Welcome to taxes under Obamacare!
What exactly does that mean?
Truth.
True and besides, Still no news from mainstream media regarding Obama admitting the terrorist raids in Libya were not about the movie but organized and planned for 9/11. What is with mainstream media to put out repeated reports with no facts and when the truth becomes clear they cover up Obama's screw ups. Bias, yes. Unreliable, of course. Dangerous, yes indeed
Romney's own father took food stamps! Romney is such a close minded fool.
if this video doesn't expose Romney for what he is, nothing will. If he gets elected, we deserve him.
"Mistake or Plain Truth" = a false dichotomy. The plain truth can sometimes be a political mistake. I have no doubt that Romney's statements accurately reflect his beliefs, and to that extent it is the truth. It could still be a serious mistake for his campaign.
This is probably the worst blunder I've heard in a presidential race since I've been alive. I can't imagine a more ignorant or insulting comment from a candidate.