New York nanny charged with murder in stabbing deaths of two children
Police and media converged on the West 75th Street apartment building after the two children were found dead.
November 3rd, 2012
09:40 PM ET

New York nanny charged with murder in stabbing deaths of two children

A New York nanny was charged with murder on Saturday, nine days after a brother and sister were found fatally stabbed in a bathtub in their family's Manhattan apartment, police said.

Yoselyn Ortega, 50, was arrested and charged with first- and second-degree murder in each of the October 25 stabbing deaths, New York police spokesman Paul Browne said.

Ortega had been recovering since then at Weill Cornell Medical Center from stab wounds authorities believe were self-inflicted. From the outset, police suggested they thought Ortega had killed Lucia Krim, 6, and her brother Leo, 1, and she has been under police guard at the hospital.

On Saturday afternoon, Ortega was interviewed at her bedside by New York police detectives about what happened last month in the Crim family's Upper West Side apartment. Afterward, the New York resident was formally arrested and charged at 6:06 p.m., though she remains hospitalized under guard, according to Browne.

After initially finding her apartment dark, the slain children's mother entered a bathroom and found Lucia and Leo dead. Ortega then began stabbing herself with a kitchen knife, police Commissioner Ray Kelly said last month. The woman's wrists were slit.

Marina Krim, the mother, had left the children with the nanny to take her 3-year-old child Nessie to a swim lesson at a nearby YMCA, Kelly said. She had expected to meet the nanny around 5:30 p.m. at a dance class, but when Ortega failed to appear she went to the apartment.

The late children's father is Kevin Krim, a senior vice president for CNBC Digital and former Yahoo executive.

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  1. PDudley

    No one knows who to trust now a days when it comes to the children. We see it in the news everyday that moms and dads, uncles and aunts, friends, neighbors and babysitters are killing and neglecting or just down right abusing kids of all ages. What makes this situation worse than other situations?

    November 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Rick

    If the Krim's are planning to hire a new nanny, I hear Casey Anthony is looking for work.

    November 4, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • ck

      Where is the compassion??? I am stunned by such insensitivity. You can't possibly have children. Shame on you....

      November 4, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
  3. michael

    Have more Money than you need? Prefer to socialize and make even more money that you don't need instead of spending time with your children. Why not just shirk your parental responsibilities and hire a nanny to take care of them because what you want is more important than your own children. Go ahead...Maybe they will make you parent of the year. Why don't you ask those two kids what was more important, Why don't you ask the parents of the kids now if they think they had their priorities straight?

    November 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • alumette

      sad reality. Your point is very valid. I have seen too many sad little kids in grocery store carts, crying their eyes out while some "housekeeper" is ignoring the pleas as she looks for stuff. These kids would break my heart. They were neglected and looked awful. It was an upper class neighborhood in Houston where most parents were professionals, both at work and the babies were left with poorly qualified help.

      November 4, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • clm

      And you actually believe that the shift of blame is to the parents? I have much I could say, but instead I think it best to remain speechless.

      November 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Greg

    This is just a terrible tragedy. There is no other way to put it.

    November 4, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Gryla2

    Since there is no doubt of the nanny's guilt, the only course left for a civilized society is to slowly lower this woman into a meat grinder and force-feed her the mush as it comes out the other end.

    November 4, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
  6. alumette

    I'll make one more entry and move on. One thing could have prevented this tragedy. Mom could have stayed home with the kids until they all went to school. Dad made plenty money to support his family. If you plan on working around the clock whether you need the money or not, you should likely post-pone having kids until you can care for them with the loving attention only parents can provide. Evidently, this was not the case. The priorities were not the kids.

    November 4, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • mixtape

      What are you on, alumette? She WAS a stay-at-home mom. She was with her third child at an extra-curricular activity, not at work. Regardless, before you go criticizing working women and their priorities, perhaps you should re-prioritize your own education as your reading and comprehension skills are clearly in need of improvement.

      November 4, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sylvia Lopez

      I would have to agree with Raghu,... too sad for you and others bitter souls! Too bad for others who just want to enjoy LIVING their life with jealous ones in our surroundings/ruins!

      November 5, 2012 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
    • p38l5

      Once again, someone is blamed for helping cause a crime because they have money. The NANNY KILLED TWO INNOCENT CHILDREN! The Parents had NOTHING to do with it! Just because they had the money to hire a nanny does NOT make them evil or bad parents! Do not blame the victims because of you feelings about people who hire child care. I guess you are against babysitters also.

      November 5, 2012 at 1:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Buck

      Indeed. These careerist, bourgeois opportunists are disgusting. They can't be bothered to take care of their own children!

      November 5, 2012 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Taylor

      You sound like a complete moron. You're honestly blaming the parents for what happened because they left their children with a nanny they trusted? Obviously they planned on the nanny having some sort of breakdown and murdering the children. Its idiots like you that I hope never reproduce.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Gigi

      I don't fault the parents for what the nanny did, as we all take this risk when we entrust our kids to other peoples care, wither it be church (perverted priests) school ( sandusky) or extracurricular activities (Jeff Doucet).
      I do agree that if the nonworking parent has the luxury to stay home and care for the kids he/she should. I did, but that was my choice.

      November 5, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Breezy

      alumette.......
      You are a JERK.......First off there is nothing wrong with being a working mom. Secondly, in todays economy it is more beneficial to have two working parents when trying to raise 3 children, as too one. Hell, it is hard raising one child, with two working parents. With the cost of dipers, formula, clothes, and other items needed for a child is constently increasing, let alone the cost of living, schools, and the fact that they live in one of the most expensive cities in the country. Show some remouse for the family. Furthermore, you might want to re-read the artical becasue it clearly states that the mom was at a swim lesson with the other child, NOT AT WORK, Dont blaim the parent for seeking help with her children, blaim the seriously disturbed nanny.
      My prayers are with the family in their time of need.

      November 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Just another face

      You should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself for saying that it's their fault the kids were killed. God forbid something tragic ever happen to you and yours. They trusted her and had no reason to think she was capable of something so heinous. Seriously, how dare you.

      November 5, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Monica

      I'm assuming that you are NOT a parent. If you are - are you implying that you have never left your children with a babysitter (relative, friend, etc.) for even an hour? Please! What a disgraceful comment you left.

      November 5, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • justsayin

      Wow are you seriously that ignorant? You either don't have children or are a liar. I can't think of a single parent I know who has NEVER left their children in the care of a relative, babysitter, nanny, friend, or whatever at some point. This mother wasn't working, she was taking one of the other children to an activity and left the other two with someone she trusted and considered part of their family. Even if she had been working, so what? That doesn't make it her fault....it is the fault of the person who committed the crime! I am a working parent.....I'm certainly not going to go on welfare and live in my car because I might be criticized by some ignorant dumba*@ for leaving my children with a sitter so I can earn a living to support them.

      November 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      Oh please. You must not live in the real world....3 under 10 is a bit of work....and if you want to get them involved in extracurricular activities then you need as much help as you can pay for. No where in this article did it say that mom was off doing pilates, at a hair salon or just lunching with friends. She was doing her motherly duties. Other Upper West Siders take it easy and let the baby sitter trudge out in the cold and snow while they stay at home. I am sorry for your lost, may your little ones rest in eternal peace.

      November 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • anna

      I couldnt agree with you more.

      The lesson here is, dont hire nannies. If you can afford to pay a nanny you should be looking after your kids yourself.

      November 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diane

      You must not have kids. Even when you can afford to stay home with your kids you need a break sometimes. And most women HAVE to work. So you are saying that everyone should wait till they can afford for the woman to stay home all day with the kids to have them? Wishful thinking you jerk!

      November 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jennifer Behar

      How can you dare make such an irresponsible comment!! Whether she worked or not none of this is her fault. I personally have three kids and do not work but I still need a nanny! We should all pray for that family and hope that justice prevails here!

      November 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • PirateKitten

      Post-pone kids? Because you think that it will make everything better and none of this will ever happen again? Maybe you should run for president ... (LMAO) Alumette... your comment is the stupidiest comment I've read so far. Before you go on giving your "opinion" (since you are obviously are SO experienced in everything *rolls eyes*), make sure that you read the trail of articles regarding this horrible and sad story.

      November 5, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bryan

      Why are you people arguing with this moron? She/He is just hijacking the thread to get a rise out of people. Either that or she/he a Right-wing nut that tries to equate as much to do about everything to "The Family" or "The Market". Not trying to politicize this but it's unfortunate that people try to speak like this in public.

      November 13, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Sandy

    I don't know about most people but any crime be it this one or even a petty one , you ' ll find that there all a little
    Crazy . I can see a plea bargain coming .
    Sorry to all but the death penalty should apply . !

    November 4, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Report abuse |
  8. appapo

    test

    November 4, 2012 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      I forgot to study

      November 5, 2012 at 2:29 am | Report abuse |
  9. anonymous

    Crazy child killers like this whackjob is the reason the death penalty should still exist. Child Killers and Serial Murderers don't deserve a chance at parole after their conviction is overturned on some crazy technicality 30 years down the road they deserve the needle or the chair. I cant believe states can actually abolish it because its excessively painful to the defendant when they should know the pain they caused their victims was more than likely far worse.

    November 5, 2012 at 12:09 am | Report abuse |
  10. lida

    please God help this family in there darkest hour,pleaseeeeeeee

    November 5, 2012 at 4:03 am | Report abuse |
  11. Nurse

    How can so many of you blame the parents for this terrible crime? I am a nurse and know that these psychotic breaks do happen all the time, with or without any warning at all. We have no idea what triggered her killing spree, but it does not make it right in any way. For those of you saying that the Krim's are bad parent because they hired a nanny, are all insane. Mrs. Krim was with the other child at a swim lesson, and the other children were at home with the nanny. This was not the family that left their children with nannies 24/7, they were there for there children. With a nanny or babysitter (same thing) it makes running errands easier that carting around two other young children. I have been babysitting since I was young, and picking up around the house was always an expected thing to do. It is not going beyond the call of duty, and they were paying her extra for this. Many of you need to take a good look in the mirror and figure out your own lives when making these ridiculous comments. From some of these comments, I am sure that many of you would require an inpatient psych stay. Have some compassion people.

    November 5, 2012 at 5:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Technician

      Thank you! Please have compassion for the bereaved..they are hurting. No parent wants to bury their children. We all hope it will go the other way around. I will pray for the parents. Take care......

      November 5, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
    • jennygirl

      thankfully, most people on this blog are NOT blaming the parents.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
    • alumette

      you are not qualified to make your assumptions and that's why you are a nurse. You do as you are told.

      November 5, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • bluesbaby911

      I agree with you to a point. However, after reading several articles on this story, i am taking into regard the education of the parents, especially the mother, being a doctor, particularly a pediatrician. I read several times that this nanny was manifesting some odd behaviours prior to this tragedy, and this was noted by others. I believe the couple tried to help out financially, even getting her other baby sitting jobs. I am surprised that the mother, who's business is to be observant, especially with children who cannot speak for themselves, sometimes, gestures, body movements, eye movements, pressured speech, etc. can be telltale. I don't blame anyone here because obviously the nanny was derranged, and the parents trusted her. Nanny cams should be plastered everywhere. They are cheap. There could have been some insight if there was a nanny cam installed in different rooms. It really doesnt matter if it was this couple or another couple, viewing of the cams at the end of the day may give you some clue as to what is going on during the day when you are not at home. Why wouldnt they trust her. This situation had nothing to do with trust, but by the sound of it a severe mental break. At any rate the parents should not blame themselves, however, maybe others can learn from it by installing measures that may help determine if this is good for you and your children. People in all walks of life from the very rich to the very poor have used babysitters, and nannies, household help since the beginning of time, and there isnt anything wrong with it. Just try and be preventative.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anders Behring Breivik (King of the Island)

      Swimming lessons for the little one...how cute., Mother should have staid at home watching the three kids and have a nice home cooked meal on the table for her husband.

      November 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • PirateKitten

      My God.... Alumette, the things that come out of your mouth are so effin unbelievable! How do you survive your day on a daily basis? How can you say that because she is a nurse her opinion doesn't matter? Who the hell are you?!?! The Queen of the World? Get off your high horse, it makes your ass look FAT!!

      November 5, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Chris

    What I find really disturbing is that this woman had known the children for quite a while. Not that it wouldnt be shocking if she murdered strangers, but the idea she killed these kids whom she'd spent so much time caring for – aparantly because the parents didnt want to pay her more or asked her to do some housework. So. Sick. Why couldn't she just threaten to stop being the Nanny? Find another family who won't ask her to do housework?`No, easier just to murder the innocent children for revenge. What a nut,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:36 am | Report abuse |
    • jennygirl

      previous reports said the nanny had money problems, and the krims offered her a chance to earn extra money by doing some cleaning. the krims sound like they were very good employers. i'm so sorry for them.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  13. GatorALLin

    Some people believe that if I own the big fancy house on the top of the hill that my success takes something away from you and your chances to have the big house and all the signs of success. Like a diamond they feel there is a limited supply and the more I have, the less you have. The more I get the less there will be left for you to have and is about envy and thinking from the eyes of jealously. There is another way of seeing the world and it uses less of the lizard brain built into us all and that is that if "that guy" can make it and be successful, then it proves others can do it also. There is always another hill and a bigger house, they are always digging up new diamonds (yes, even bigger ones). This is the opposite of the jealousy theory that with hard work and persistence you can have that big house on an even bigger hill if you really want to work for it and make it happen. The more you see with others that have the more proof there is that it can be done. Higher level thinking does not come from instinct or jealousy or envy of the lizard brain we were all born with. What more could you accomplish if you used higher level thinking?

    November 5, 2012 at 7:52 am | Report abuse |
    • OKay

      You may have missed the point with your higher brain functions. Many people are fine with others who choose to work hard and make mucho money. You may not notice that many many people work very hard and don't make a lot of money. It doesn't mean you work harder necessarily if you have a lot of money. It may mean you have devised a plan to rip off the middle class and it's working. It may mean you don't spend any time with your loved ones because you relate better to money and what it can buy. It may mean you are paying less of a percentage in taxes than someone making much less etc. etc. Show me a person who has made a lot of money who didn't make it off the backs of the middle class. Just sayin....

      November 5, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
    • df66

      @ OKay- You're "just sayin", but you probably shouldn't, since YOU missed the point. If I'm more successful than you, it's because not only did I work harder, I worked smarter. If you're working your butt off and not getting anywhere then shame on you for not having the brains to first research your field to see if money CAN be made. Obviously you're jealous of those with money, so you justify your anger by falsely claiming that they must've cheated somehow and are cold and calculating. The reality is, they're just better than you at being successful. Truth hurts, eh?

      November 5, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  14. karen

    I just have one thing to say...had those been MY kids that she killed, that nanny would have bled to death on the floor before I called someone.

    November 5, 2012 at 8:26 am | Report abuse |
    • df66

      I see your point, but most people would want to at least try to get the burning question of "why" answered, and with the nanny dead that would never be a possibility.

      November 5, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Goto

      It's interesting that she slit her wrists and cut her own throat and then turned out the lights.

      November 5, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • karen

      Not so surprising really. Unless she severed the carotid artery (in which case she would have bled out before a paramedic could arrive) her wounds, while life-threatening if left untreated over time, would allow her ample time to extinguish the lights. As for wanting to know why...not an issue for me. I've always said: Hurt me, I'll heal...hurt my kid, you'll die.

      November 5, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  15. dont matter

    If u r a parent, then its our job to take care of ur kids. If u do not work then why in the world do u NEED a nanny. As a mother of 3, if my son has a basketball game u better believe that his 2 sisters are there to watch not at home with a babysitter or nanny. Its part of having kids, they r your kids no one elses. And yes having no kids to go shopping or pay bills or do whatever is a lot easier however if u don't have time for them y have them to begin with. My kids r with me 24/7 I pay my bills with them, I do my shopping with them I do EVERYTHING with them by my side no matter how much of a pain it may be. I might ask a family or close friend to keep them a couple hrs so I can have fun once a month or two. It is rediculas to have someone else raise our kids. And then wonder how they snaped and killed them. They don't have the patience for the children like the mother does. I blame them all 3 for what has happened. I mean honestly it would have put so much of a burdin to bring the other 2 alone??? And no look at what has happen.

    November 5, 2012 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
    • dont matter

      Please let me know when the ceremony is when you are receiving the mother of the year award. I would like to be there for to applaud you.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
    • jennygirl

      good for you. and when you hired a sitter for that one night off a month, and the sitter killed your children, then everyone can blog about how you should have been there for your child and not let someone else have them.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • karen

      Presumably, your night of fun will include lessons in English and grammar–both of which seem to be sadly lacking in your post. That said, who are you to condemn a mother for leaving her other children in the care of a nanny after admitting that you leave ALL of your children in the care of a sitter so that you can have a night of fun? Are you somehow better because you choose family members to babysit instead of using a nanny? Do you consider that the safer choice in spite of daily news reports to the contrary? How nice it must be for you up there on your pedestal. Hopefully, you can find your way down and secure a safe sitter when it is time for you to accept your Mother of the Year award.

      November 5, 2012 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
    • PirateKitten

      Awww... aren't you a little Suzie Homemaker Mother of the freaking year!! If people have the money to hire a nanny, let them, it's not coming out of your tax dollars and you're opinion doesn't matter. Her situation is no different than when someone leaves their kids with a "family" friend you trust and they hurt your kids.

      November 5, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
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