December 18th, 2012
09:54 AM ET

4 dead in Colorado shooting

Four people have been found dead today in a Colorado house in an apparent murder-suicide, a Weld County sheriff's spokesman has told CNN's Christine Sever.

The dead are two men and two females and all are believed to be related, the spokesman, Tim Schwartz, said.

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  1. Flappy

    I question why there is even a national association whose sole purpose is to get together and talk about their firearms and right to bear them. Seems like a pretty odd club. Maybe a prerequisite to joining one of those Civil War re-enactment groups. Koo Kooooooo.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Prgrif

    This is irresponible journalsim if you ask me. We just had one the worst mass shootings in US history and the reporter who wrote this story deemed this murder as a "shooting" as if to imply it was on the scale of Newtown CT. Horrible simply horrible to use the massacre that was Friday to sell your story.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Mackenzie

      I agree completely. There was a news story of a "shooting" in Grand Rapids that involved three people. Yes, it's still a tragic loss to the families of the victims, people were still shot, and it still involved the irresponsible use of firearms. But I read the article's headline of both this story and the Grand Rapids one thinking that dozens of people died. Maybe headlines should be worded differently in the future to prevent this sort of confusion?

      December 18, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  3. wouldyou

    When are American's going to realize that living by open gun laws, you die by these laws, what a sad matter of fact!

    December 18, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • wouldyou

      Those poor innocent kids, their entire lives to look forward, taken away from them!!

      December 18, 2012 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • The rest of society

      115 million*

      December 18, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  4. Jim

    How many people died in the past 10 years in the U.S. from .50 caliber machine gun fire? I'm thinking none and it's because these guns are illegal. The question is where do we draw the line on what's allowed and what's not. I'm thinking that the line should be what the purpose of the gun is. If it's solely for killing people, outlaw it (target practice doesn't count). If it serves another purpose (hunting), allow it.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Rob Thomas

      Actually Jim, in 33 states where full auto is legal, there are many, many legally owned 50 cal machine guns. You might want to look into that.

      December 18, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      well over 300 MILLION guns killed no one yesterday or today or any other day.

      It is inconvenient, I know, but it is accurate. In fact if guns kill people, I have a whole bunch of defective ones. They have never killed anyone. Ready for a real shocker? I own both AR-15 platform and M-14 platform rifles. Dang. Huh?

      December 23, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
  5. dharris16

    I head this individual had mental problems.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:24 am | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Insanity

    They are praising the teachers for herding them all into the closets. What?! Wonder if the herded kids all into a small area made it easy to concentrate all the fire into one small space and kill them all in those two classrooms? You never bunch up! You spread out! Bunched up groups are easy targets esp for some nut with a semi auto rifle.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:26 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • The rest of society

      Probably not the best time or place to discuss your massacre strategies you idiot.

      December 18, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • dharris16

      You suck Insanity, shouldn't you be headed to the range?

      December 18, 2012 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
    • JustMe

      Well the kids that were hidden didn't get killed. They've been able to tell what their teacher did. So I guess it worked.

      December 18, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  7. Informed

    It's the victims fault for not arming themselves (sarcasm implied). That's the NRA's position on this shooting.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Jenna

    Actually, most of the mass shootings that have happened involved legally obtained guns, Sandy Hook included. I think Americans should be granted the right to bear arms, but do they need to be guns of this type?

    December 18, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • banasy©

      I agree.
      Assault weapons should be banned.

      December 18, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • anniesbirds

      You know a lot of people don't understand what an assault rifle is nor it's functionality. A semi-automatic rifle fires EXACTLY like a handgun. One trigger pull per bullet. The only difference between an assault rifle (S.A.) and a handgun is the magazine size. The Newtown shooter could've killed the same amount of people with the two handguns he was carrying. Assault rifles (most, not all) have a smaller caliber than handguns. The AR-15 using a 5.56mm bullet. The Glock he used carried a 9mm caliber. I think people should be more responsible if you own owns. If his mother knew he had "issues," then weapons shouldn't have been in the house OR they should've been locked up SECURELY in a gun safe. Even still, with young and immature people in the house, they should've been locked away and unattainable.

      December 18, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Common Sense

      Correct. Everyone is getting brain washed by what the media calls an assault weapon. That they are something completely different than any other weapon-which is not the case at all.

      We need more people control than gun control...

      December 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • tj

      AMEN!!! jail all the stupid/insane people. O wait a minute, that would have changed the latest election.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • southpaw1953

      Thank you for the common sense

      December 28, 2012 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
    • john gomez

      A BASEBALL BAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON

      January 2, 2013 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Stan Dodson

      Actually an assault rifle by definition is the ability ti fire a 3 round automatic burst or full automatic.

      December 18, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • kilovolt

      Don't play propaganda. Assault rifles are far more accurate than pistols and are intended for use with high-capacity cartridges. Pistols can be fitted for them, but are not designed for maximum killing accuracy, and are therefore unwieldy and not nearly as efficient. There is no possible argument for assault rifles unless you are trying to protect yourself against the government.

      December 18, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • FoolKiller

      "high-capacity cartridges" ?
      "Pistols can be fitted for them"?
      Perhaps more people would listen to you if there was some glimmer that you knew what you were talking about...

      December 26, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dennis

      exactly read the second amendment

      December 27, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ben B.

      Anniesbirds – You are absolutely right. It seems to be the mis-informed that are touting the assault weapons ban. Any semi-automatic pistol can be just as lethal as a small caliber AW like the Bushmasters that have be used in the latest shootings. The world is saturated with guns-no one will every be able to get rid of guns, so forget that route. The common denominator lately has been mental illness. Keeping the mentally ill disarmed, legally or illegally, is where the focus needs to be. Truthfully, I don't have any AW and don't want any AW, so I have no bias towards them. I just want something to be done so that I don't have to hear about people being massacred and addressing mental illness is the key.

      December 28, 2012 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
    • HalifaxM

      Are you delirious? Sandy Hook was not done with legally obtained guns? His mother was the legal owner. He murdered her to obtain them. I'm pretty sure murdering someone for guns is illegal. Maybe you'd better check that for me.

      December 24, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • CausinAScene

      I believe what is being related here is that the guns were obtained legally, by the mother, then stolen and used in an illegal manner, by the shooter.

      December 25, 2012 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
  9. citizenUSA

    And this guy was probably a well-respected, gun license carrying memeber of his community.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
  10. Fed Up

    How do we change people's hearts? Make them respect each other instead of kill each other? Guns are an easy weapon. Take them away and you still have knives, swords, box cutters, automobiles, airplanes, poison and homemade bombs for starters. People kill. They're the ones who need to be changed. Guns can be obtained illegally. Gun control won't stop murders. Put God and Jesus back in people's lives and our schools and you'll see the murder rate drop.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. julie

    we as a nation need 2 pray

    December 18, 2012 at 10:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Evergreen

    The arguement that if the person did not have a gun he would have used something else does not make sense. You would at least have a chance of fighting off an attacker that was not armed with a gun.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
  13. A PERSON

    MAN HAS BEEN KILLING MAN SINCE MAN CAME TO BE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL CONTINUE REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE.
    ROME TOOK EUROPE WITHOUT A GUN THEN GENGHIS KHUN TOOK OVER EUROPE WITH OUT A GUN. SO GUNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY OTHER MEANS THEN GUNS. GUNS THAT FIRE MANY ROUNDS IN A SHORT TIME, NOW THAT IS A PROBLEM. PEOPLE THAT ARE MENTALLY ILL, NOW THAT IS A PROBLEM. I WISH THESE PEOPLE COULD GET HELP , BUT WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE. SO WHAT DO WE DO?

    December 18, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  14. confused

    I cannot get my head around why Americans think it is ok to legally by guns. Guns are made for killing. Who the hell knows what is going on in someones head. Their background check could be absolutely clean yet you're enabling this person to have a killing machine. The argument "the gun isn't the killer, to person is the killer" isn't valid. Don't let it be that easy to kill someone. If you want to have personal protection, get a knife. Its all too easy to point a gun, shoot and kill someone in America and its getting out of hand, seriously.

    December 18, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse | Reply
  15. James Bond

    Taking guns away from responsible citizens is horseshat, with all the politicains in the pockets of big money, cops included, you better hold on to what you got, george w. passed a law during hurricane katrina that allows the government to disarm you legally, once fema takes over, no wonder they did not respond promptly, too busy screwing you out of your rights, just look at michigan last week, unbelievable. law after law passed during all night sessions, all gop advocated issues, privitized prisons, oh thats a good idea

    December 18, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
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