February 6th, 2013
10:34 AM ET

Boy Scouts delay vote on gay membership ban

We're going to have to wait a bit longer to see whether the Boy Scouts will drop their across-the-board ban on openly gay members.

The Boy Scouts of America on Wednesday delayed its vote on a proposal to let local troops decide whether to allow openly gay members and leaders.

The organization, which had been expected to vote Wednesday, said it needs more time to get input from its members. The vote will now be held in May.

"After careful consideration and extensive dialogue within the Scouting family, along with comments from those outside the organization, the volunteer officers of the Boy Scouts of America’s National Executive Board concluded that due to the complexity of this issue, the organization needs time for a more deliberate review of its membership policy," the group said Wednesday morning.

"To that end, the executive board directed its committees to further engage representatives of Scouting’s membership and listen to their perspectives and concerns."

Read more about the delay here.

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  1. Bubba

    Breaking news? Really CNN?

    February 6, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  2. 8ratatoskr8

    As an Eagle scout, I say ask us. Let us vote. As long as the scout next to me could carry his pack as well as the rest of us, I don't really care who he had a crush on in school.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Hiram57

      Great comment ! You've proven yourself worthy of your Badge !

      February 6, 2013 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Michael

    As a former Boy Scout who earned Eagle, I believe that it should be left to the individual troops, not to the national HQ. While the National BSA leadership can and should set policy, this is not one of the policies they should make. They can, however, mandate that all troops require a vetting process for all scout leaders to ensure that they are upstanding citizens in their local communities. If an individual in a troop does not like the policies of one, they can always move to another troop.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • lifescout

      Gee, that would make perfect sense. Sorry – for that reason it will never fly.

      February 6, 2013 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Ivan

    The Boy Scouts say a ban on gay members will continue at least until May, when a vote will be held on possible changes. So instead of bravery they choose cowardice, what thing to teach youngsters. Can't take a stand either way huh?

    February 6, 2013 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Thibodeaux

      They should have voted, but the pressure was too much. I hope they will do the right thing and not compromise on the issue.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Matthew

      Can't take a stand either way? They have been taking a very clear stand since their very founding. This issue is about some people wanting them to change their stance, not about taking a stand to begin with.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      "They should have voted, but the pressure was too much. I hope they will do the right thing and not compromise on the issue." – Thibodeaux

      Because the "right thing" clearly should be dictated by the side of bigotry and hate. Good call.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  5. Clayton Colwell

    Yeah, dammit! Let's get back to the days of the PROUD WHITE MAN and the BLACK SLAVES in their rightful place! And womenfolk BAREFOOT, PREGNANT, AND SUBMISSIVE just like the Bible wants 'em to be!

    February 6, 2013 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • claytonisdumb

      And this coming from someone that has probably never read the bible. If you don't understand that context in which those texts were written, then please don't comment on the issue.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Thibodeaux

      No Clayton. Let's go back to the days of right and wrong, moral and immoral, Adam and Eve, and not Adam and Steve.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      When did this moral utopia you envision exist, Thibodeaux? When we could own other people?

      February 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matthew

      You must have clicked on the wrong article, as nothing in this article has the slightest thing to do with race relations, women's roles, or the Bible.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Clayton Colwell

      test...test...will any of my replies post now?

      February 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Clayton Colwell

      @claytonisdumb (since the Reply link doesn't seem to currently work):

      1 Timothy 2:12-15

      New International Version (NIV)

      12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[a] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[b] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

      In any event, my comment didn't come out of nowhere. It was a sarcastic rejoinder, originally issued as a reply, to some guy bemoaning the loss of the Good Old Days to LIBERALS, GAYS, ATHEISTS [his caps], and any other bugbears he had hiding under his bed this morning.

      February 6, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Really?

      you must be reading one strange bible..

      February 7, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Clayton Colwell

      1 Timothy 2:12-15 says it all.

      February 7, 2013 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
  6. AkronBB

    I hope the scouts keep the gays out. I think including them will kill the whole organization. Next thing we know our strait boys and girls will come home and thinks it ok to be gay.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • cedar rapids

      they may think its ok to be gay but thats a not a bad thing to thing.
      what are you worried about? that it will make them gay?

      February 6, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Philip

      That's an argument fallacy called the slippery slope argument. Learn logic, then argue.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Bobby

      That boat already sailed.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      You can't convert someone into being gay.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Spell Check

      *straight, poor person can't even spell the straight correctly...no wonder they are worried.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      "I hope the scouts keep the gays out. I think including them will kill the whole organization. Next thing we know our strait boys and girls will come home and thinks it ok to be gay." – AkronBB

      Yeah, and once it is ok to be gay, then people will start having carnal relations with box turtles. Source: Rick Santorum

      February 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Inis Magrath

      Your straight boys and girls will most definitely think it is ok to be gay - whether the scouts change their policy or not. Your kids will be the product of the 21st century, whether you like it or not.

      February 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      Really, Akron? You think it's a choice?

      February 6, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bet

      Actually, it IS okay to be gay.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
  7. cedar rapids

    1958? you mean when blacks were made to sit at the back of the bus? jim crow? etc etc.
    yeah the country was just fine and dandy then

    February 6, 2013 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  8. Tyler

    Is this delay, requested by the Arizona Mormons, simply a delay to give them more time to buy the decision? They love spending money to discriminate.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  9. EF

    Please understand that the scouts is a Christian organization and by letting gay members & leaders join they are not following their Biblical foundation. We do not hate gays we just think that their lifestyle is a sin.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Negative EF. The BSA is NOT a Christian organization. It is a values based organization that requires its member to profess a religious faith. Be that Christianity, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, or any other religion.

      Scott

      February 6, 2013 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Melvin

      The Scriptures at no point deal with homosexuality as an authentic sexual orientation, a given condition of being. The remarkably few Scriptural references to "homosexuality" deal rather with homosexual acts, not with homosexual orientation. Those acts are labeled as wrong out of the context of the times in which the writers wrote and perceived those acts to be either nonmasculine, idolatrous, exploitative, or pagan. The kind of relationships between two consenting adults of the same sex demonstrably abounding among us - relationships that are responsible and mutual, affirming and fulfilling - are not dealt with in the Scriptures.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • o1matt

      So is not loving thow neighbor... The whole Christian religion is two sided. Why shouldn't we practice both sides?

      February 6, 2013 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Hiram57

      False, EF. The Scouts are NOT Christian any way, shape or form. Wake up, and smell the Coffee.

      February 6, 2013 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      EF: Lifestyle?

      February 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Marc L from NY

    Seems people only support freedom of choice if they agree with the choice. Kind of hypocritical.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  11. Jocelyn

    Good! They need to stay out!

    February 6, 2013 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      You realize that is what they use to say about African Americans. Your prejudice is disgusting.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Thibodeaux

      I agree. Pete, get a life?

      February 6, 2013 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
  12. Scott

    I took a look at the "Fact Sheet" on the BSA's web site and in 2011 there were about 800,000 boys in units chartered by conservative organizations, e.g. LDS Church, Baptist Churches. If BSA goes fаggаdосіоuѕ, then they will probably loose darn near every one of those units.

    Scott

    February 6, 2013 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Clayton Colwell

      Still working on those "courteous" and "kind" qualities, I see. *Good* Scout!

      February 6, 2013 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Yup, never said I was perfect.

      Scott

      February 6, 2013 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Clayton Colwell

      Given that courtesy and kindness are part of the Scout Law, and generally considered to be good qualities, methinks you should be demonstrating them, instead of ignoring them in the effort to maintain undue discrimination (which also wouldn't pass muster as a Scoutly virtue).

      February 6, 2013 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • lifescout

      No loss if they quit sponsoring – except to their boys. There are plenty of other religious organizations who will sponsor a troop if the policy changes: United Churches of Christ, United Methodist churches (reconciling congregations), etc. If you want to drop your troop – fine. Hit the road.

      February 6, 2013 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  13. UncleM

    @firewalker25b – your bigotry, willful religious ignorance and paranoia is what is damaging this country.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  14. YeahRight

    This is about civil rights. Marriage was defined by the US Supreme Court as a civil right. Recognized federal civil rights law in the United States is grounded in the U.S. Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court. By this standard, marriage has long been established as a civil right.

    The operative constitutional text is section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified in 1868. The relevant passages read as follows:

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Jo

      This is about the rights of BSA to make rules for what they consider to be principles. It's not about civil rights, and if so, why do you place gays' rights above the boys and their parents' rights? Marriage is not a civil right and your interpretation of court decisions is just your interpretation. Don't state it as a fact.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • crzybb2002

      They already have the EXACT SAME civil right to get married as EVERY other person in this country. No one has or is trying to take away that right from them. The problem is, they're trying to redefine what a marriage is to suit THEIR wants...they want to get married on THEIR terms...that's the root of the debate.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Rafaele

      Absolutely!!

      Oh, wait, I forget - are you talking about gays or blacks??

      February 6, 2013 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Name*

      I hope you like guns.

      February 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Marc

    Gay scout leaders, yes. Priests – definitely not!

    February 6, 2013 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
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