February 12th, 2013
11:45 PM ET

Police: Body found in cabin in hunt for Dorner

  • Person believed to be renegade ex-LAPD officer Christopher Dorner killed deputy, wounded another in shootout at California cabin Tuesday, authorities say
  • Hours later, SWAT team stormed cabin, which caught fire; sheriff's department says suspect believed dead
  • Police: Encounter came after suspect, in stolen vehicle, exchanged gunfire with warden, and then fled to cabin in San Bernardino National Forest
  • Dorner was subject of seven-day manhunt, suspected in three other deaths
  • We'll have updates below as we get them; full story here; also see KCAL/KCBS, KABC, KTLA.

[Updated at 3:43 a.m. ET Wednesday] The San Bernardino Sheriff's Office said early Wednesday morning that investigators have located charred human remains in the debris of the burned-out cabin where law-enforcement officers exchanged gunfire with a suspect believed to be Dorner.

The sheriff's office said the body has not been identified, and that identification will be attempted through forensic means.

[Updated at 12:33 a.m. ET Wednesday] New details about the suspect's encounter and shootout with game wardens before the shootout with sheriff's deputies at the cabin: Game wardens saw the suspect in two vehicles Tuesday.

California Department of Fish and Wildlife Lt. Patrick Foy says two game wardens first chased the suspect as he was driving a purple Nissan in the San Bernardino National Forest. The wardens, in a patrol truck, had been told to look out for the Nissan, and they saw it driving in the opposite direction behind two buses.

Foy says the wardens did a U-turn and tried to follow the Nissan, but they lost him. Authorities now believe the suspect passed the buses and turned onto a different road, called Glass Road.

Later, three different wardens in two vehicles were driving on Glass Road and saw a white pickup truck traveling erratically toward them. One of the wardens believed he saw Dorner driving the truck.

The truck's driver fired a gun at one of the wardens' vehicles, Foy said. A warden got out and returned fire as the suspect drove away.

Foy said no warden was injured. He said he didn't know whether the suspect was shot.

Authorities say they believe the suspect ditched the second vehicle and entered a cabin, where he eventually exchanged gunfire Tuesday afternoon with San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies, killing one and wounding another.

Hours later, according to police, a SWAT team stormed the cabin, which caught fire after police detonated smoke devices inside the structure, a law enforcement source told CNN.

The San Bernadino County Sheriff's Department says it believes a body is in the cabin, but investigators have yet to examine the cabin because it was still smoldering.

[Updated at 11:45 p.m. ET] The San Bernardino Sheriff's Department is echoing the LAPD's refutation of reports that Dorner's body was found in the burned cabin, but it acknowledges investigators believe a body is there.

"We believe (the suspect) is still inside the cabin that caught fire," SBSD spokeswoman Cindy Bachman said.

Later, she said, "(Investigators) believe a body is in there," but that investigators still haven't been inside the cabin to look for one.

"It is too hot. (It's) still smoldering" and not safe to enter, Bachman said, adding that officials believe there still is live ammunition in the smoldering cabin.

"We believe that the person that barricaded himself inside the cabin and engaged in gunfire with our deputies ... is still inside there even though the building burned," she said.

[Updated at 11:13 p.m. ET] Los Angeles police are now contradicting media reports that a body was found in the cabin.

No such thing was found in the cabin, a Los Angeles Police Department spokesman told reporters moments ago, because cabin is still burning and is too hot to search.

The spokesman said the LAPD will continue to protect the LAPD officers that Dorner accused of targeting police officers because he the LAPD fired him in 2008 allegedly identified as potential threats in a letter made public last week.

[Updated at 10:40 p.m. ET] We're awaiting a news conference from authorities regarding today's events. Could happen quite soon.

[Updated at 10:02 p.m. ET] A body believed to be that of Christopher Dorner has been pulled from the burning cabin, multiple law enforcement sources tell CNN contributor Tom Fuentes. The sources say they were told this by LAPD.

Law enforcement personnel will conduct a forensic exam to identify the body, the sources say.

[Updated at 9:53 p.m. ET] Some details on the surviving deputy who was wounded in today's shootout at the cabin: That deputy still is in surgery and is expected to live, San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller says.

That deputy was one of two deputies who were wounded in a shootout at the cabin in Califorina's San Bernardino National Forest on Tuesday afternoon. The other deputy was pronounced dead on arrival at a hospital, authorities said.

The names of the deputies have not been released.

[Updated at 9:40 p.m. ET] The Los Angeles Police Department has scheduled a media briefing at midnight ET.

We're still waiting for details about the fire at the cabin, which began more than two hours ago.

[Updated at 9:14 p.m. ET] Earlier, we reported that U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told us a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin at some point today and was pushed back inside. But there are now conflicting reports about whether the suspect ever emerged.

Ellingson says authorities are not sure whether the suspect came out.

[Updated at 8:52 p.m. ET] Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa tells reporters that "on behalf of the people of Los Angeles, our hearts and prayers are with the San Bernardino deputy who was shot and killed today."

"Our prayers are with the family, with the people of San Bernardino, with the police and the sheriff’s department of that county. I want to thank them for their bravery.”

The suspect, Dorner, was a Los Angeles police officer from 2005 to 2008.

[Updated at 8:44 p.m. ET] Personnel are clearing a road so that firefighters can extinguish the flames at the cabin, authorities familiar with the operation.

[Updated at 8:34 p.m. ET] At some point today, a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin, but he was pushed back inside, U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told CNN's Brian Todd.

We're still waiting for details about the fire at the cabin, which began about an hour ago.

[Updated at 8:19 p.m. ET] Kyle Martin, son of the cabin's owner, says six cabins are on the 10-acre property. Martin says he believes the suspect barricaded himself in the main cabin, behind which the five smaller cabins exist.

[Updated at 8:09 p.m. ET] Kyle Martin, son of the cabin's owner, told CNN that he believes no one was staying at the cabin Tuesday before the suspect entered it.

[Updated at 8:07 p.m. ET] More details on the authorities' recent assault on the cabin, which is on fire: It's not clear whether the suspect is still in the cabin, but the area is surrounded by law enforcement personnel, San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Cindy Bachman said.

No one is allowed to go near the fire, including fire department personnel, she said.

"There was active gunfire before the fire" between the suspect and law enforcement, she said. Bachman said she was not aware of any communications with the suspect.

[Updated at 7:57 p.m. ET] The cabin is indeed on fire, but authorities aren't sure whether Dorner is inside, a San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman said.

Authorities also aren't certain that Dorner was the person they chased to the cabin and fatally shot a sheriff's deputy, but that the suspect has been described as looking like Dorner and "we have reason to believe that it is him," she said.

She added that she's not aware of any hostages at the cabin.

[Updated at 7:46 p.m. ET] Back to the casualties in this afternoon's shootout: After confirming that one of two wounded deputies had died, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said the second deputy was in surgery, "but he should be fine."

That shootout was a few hours ago; we're still awaiting details of what law enforcement sources say was a separate police assault on the cabin that began about 30 minutes ago. The cabin still is on fire.

[Updated at 7:43 p.m. ET] While we're awaiting information about what law enforcement sources say was a police assault on the cabin, here's some details about the vehicle that the suspect allegedly stole:

A friend of the vehicle's owner tells CNN that a man, who police believe was Dorner, emerged from the woods in the Big Bear Lake area Tuesday and pointed a gun at the owner, who was in the vehicle with his dog.

The gunman ordered the owner and the dog out of the vehicle, and then drove off with it, the friend said, citing the owner.

The carjacking was then reported to police, leading to this afternoon's events. A recap: Police say they found the suspect driving the stolen vehicle about 5 miles to the southeast (actually a 27-mile drive around Sugarloaf Mountain), and the suspect ran into the woods and entered a cabin, where a shootout involving the suspect killed one officer and wounded another.

[Updated at 7:33 p.m. ET] More details on authorities' current assault on the cabin: Fire, as well as smoke from devices that the officers detonated, have engulfed the structure, according to authorities familiar with the operation. Ammunition is exploding inside, the sources said.

[Updated at 7:30 p.m. ET] One of two sheriff's deputies shot Tuesday by a man suspected to be Dorner has died, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon told reporters at California's Loma Linda University Medical Center.

[Updated at 7:26 p.m. ET] The cabin appears to be on fire. Authorities began an assault on the structure minutes ago.

Authorities have penetrated the structure and were bringing equipment to tear openings into the cabin, a source familiar with the operation said.

[Updated at 7:22 p.m. ET] Black smoke is rising high in the air from the cabin area, video from CNN affiliate KABC shows. The video appeared to be taken from a distance; authorities had asked news helicopters to keep well away.

[Updated at 7:20 p.m. ET] Authorities have launched tear gas at the cabin, and a tactical operation is under way, Former FBI Assistant Director Tom Fuentes tells CNN.

[Updated at 7:18 p.m. ET] A California Department of Fish and Wildlife spokesman says he believes one of his agency's game wardens was the first law enforcement official to confront the suspect in the stolen vehicle, and exchanged gunfire with him.

The game warden was on patrol and saw the vehicle approaching in the Big Bear area, the spokesman said. The warden got out of his vehicle and fired at the suspect, the spokesman said. It's not clear from the spokesman's interview that the suspect left his vehicle at that point.

The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department says the suspect left the stolen vehicle Tuesday afternoon as authorities confronted him, ran into a forest and eventually entered a cabin, where a shootout happened.

[Updated at 7:08 p.m. ET] A little more on the geography: The area where the suspect got out of the vehicle and fled into the San Bernardino National Forest (and then into a cabin) is about 5 miles southwest, as the bird flies, of the spot where the vehicle was reported stolen near Big Bear Lake. But the most direct series of roads between the two locations is about 27-mile drive around Sugarloaf Mountain.

[Updated at 6:46 p.m. ET] One of the two law enforcement officers hurt in today's shootout has died, CNN affiliates and the Los Angeles Times have reported. The Times cited law enforcement sources.

We're awaiting a news conference at the medical center.

[Updated at 6:42 p.m. ET] We're about to get an update on the two injured sheriff's deputies. A news conference is expected to begin shortly at California's Loma Linda University Medical Center.

[Updated at 6:19 p.m. ET] A reporter with CNN affiliate KCBS captured audio of gunfire during an encounter between police and the suspect. It's unclear which party was shooting during the audio recording, which runs for more than a minute. Here it is:

[Updated at 6:19 p.m. ET] Aerial footage from KCAL and KCBS shows officers stopping and checking the interiors of vehicles on a road in the Big Bear area.

[Updated at 6:15 p.m. ET] LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith tells reporters that authorities aren't 100% sure that the suspect in the cabin is Dorner, but they believe it's him.

"The likelihood is that it is him, but we can't say for sure," Smith said.

Smith called on Dorner to surrender. "Everyone is very hopeful that this thing ends without further bloodshed," he said.

"If he's watching this, the message for (him) is enough is enough," Smith said. "It's time to turn yourself in. It's time to end the bloodshed."

Smith said authorities believe the suspect has access to TV. Smith asked television stations to not show live signals of the cabin area "because it puts our officers at a tactical disadvantage."

Earlier today, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon has asked that news helicopters pull back or leave the area of the barricaded suspect. (See 5:36 p.m. entry.)

[Updated at 6:03 p.m. ET] The two deputies who were injured in this incident have been airlifted to Loma Linda Medical Center, a San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller says. No information on their conditions has been released.

Moments ago, LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith told reporters that the deputies were injured during the gunfire exchange between officers and the suspect at the cabin where the suspect barricaded himself. This squares with what a law enforcement source told CNN earlier.

Smith told reporters that LAPD officers are waiting for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department to give them authorization to assist in today's incident.

[Updated at 6 p.m. ET] We're expecting to hear from the Los Angeles Police Department soon. A news conference is expected to start in a few minutes.

[Updated at 5:36 p.m. ET] San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon has asked that news helicopters pull back or leave the area of the barricaded suspect.

"Gunfire is being exchanged between law enforcement and the suspect; your personnel are in danger and could contribute to officer safety on the ground," the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department said in a statement.

[Updated at 5:22 p.m. ET] Authorities are now saying that a man believed to be Dorner exchanged gunfire with law enforcement officers after he barricaded himself inside a cabin Tuesday afternoon, the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department says.

Here's the sequence of events from the sheriff's department: Officers got a report of a stolen vehicle in the Big Bear area, and deputies responded to the area at 12:22 p.m. PT and began looking for the vehicle on the ground and from the air.

"The vehicle was located at Hwy. 38 and Glass Rd. The suspect fled into the forest and barricaded himself inside a cabin," the sheriff's department said in a statement. "A short time later there was an exchange of gunfire between law enforcement and the suspect. Sheriff's SWAT is on scene."

Two law enforcement officers are being airlifted to a local hospital with "unknown injuries," the sheriff's department said. Earlier, a high-ranking law enforcement source told CNN that two sheriff's deputies were wounded in a shootout.

[Updated at 5:16 p.m. ET] Authorities have ignited a smoke grenade in the Big Bear area of California to mark a location for police helicopters, a high ranking law official with knowledge of the investigation said Tuesday.

[Updated at 5:15 p.m. ET] Former FBI Assistant Director Tom Fuentes explains to CNN what law enforcement personnel usually mean when they say someone is "pinned down":

"The term commonly means he's not running any more, that they've got him trapped in a home or some other physical location ... . That means he's contained; that doesn’t mean he’s in custody ... but it means he’s not running loose."

Earlier, a high-ranking law enforcement source told CNN that authorities believe they have Dorner "pinned down" in California's Big Bear Lake area after a shootout in which two sheriff's deputies were wounded Tuesday.

[Updated at 5:09 p.m. ET] As a precaution, schools in the Big Bear Lake area are on lockdown, Big Bear Lake Mayor Jay Obernolte says.

[Updated at 5:06 p.m. ET] Authorities believe Dorner is "pinned down" in a rural area about 8 miles south of Big Bear Lake, California, the city's mayor told CNN.

Mayor Jay Obernolte says his thoughts and prayers are with the two deputies who police say were wounded in a shootout Tuesday with Dorner.

"If they were injured in the defense of our community, we owe them a huge debt of gratitude," Obernolte said.

[Updated at 12:10 p.m. ET, Wednesday February 13] We are reinstating these two posts from 5:06 p.m. ET and 5:09 p.m. ET that were previously removed because of internal miscommunication. The information and quotes were always accurate and from the mayor. We regret the error.

[Updated at 4:49 p.m. ET] Two sheriff's deputies have been wounded in a shootout with a suspect believed to be renegade ex-Los Angeles police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, a high-ranking law official with knowledge of the investigation said Tuesday.

The source says the suspect, believed to be Dorner, shot the deputies as police responded to a report of a home invasion and a carjacking in the Big Bear area of southern California.

After police got a description of the vehicle, police set up a road block, and Dorner approached the officers, the source says. Dorner then opened fire, wounding the two sheriff's deputies, according to the source.

The official said Dorner was pinned down.

[Updated at 4:35 p.m. ET] The San Bernardino Sheriff's Department confirms that authorities were chasing a pickup truck, according to CNN's Casey Wian.

The department hasn't confirmed whether Dorner is connected to the chase. It did say that Dorner wasn't in custody, CNN's Chris Welch reported.

[Posted at 4:31 p.m. ET] Law enforcement officers are responding to reports that ex-LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner has been sighted and may have been involved in a robbery in the Big Bear area of southern California, said law enforcement sources involved in the investigation.

Dorner who indicated he was on a campaign of vigilante justice for what he believes was his unfair termination from the LAPD in 2008 has been the subject of a seven-day manhunt as a suspect in three killings.

Dorner is accused of killing one police officer and wounding two others, as well as killing the daughter of his police union representative and her fiancé.

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  1. DownWithDorner

    Its not difficult to figure out why they want the helicopters far away.
    Good God, you people. Next time you need police help, don't bother calling them if you have such issues.

    Good luck with all that...

    February 12, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  2. mason

    "NEWS FAIL!!!!!!!!!" ........The police have no clue where he is and I'm sorry to say, but I hope he gets away. Time out for the crooked cops!!!!!!!!!!!!

    February 12, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      I agree I hope he gets away.....

      February 12, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Junior

    Dangerous as RAMBO FIRST BLOOD.

    February 12, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan StoHelit

      Except that he's a coldblooded murderer who killed and advocates killing innocent family members. Sounds more like the type that Rambo is usually fighting against, if you need a movie hero to tell you who to be for.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Justthinkingoutloud

    I know you are still upset about the Presidential election and the fact that President Obama is back in office. But you are really showing your ignorance when you imply that this incident has happened because President Obama is back in office. I was always told that you don't know how stupid a person is until they open their mouth.. And boy.. you showed us.

    February 12, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Burn black guy

      It's easy to win the presidency when you have every welfare recipient out there voting ten times a piece! He even lost the popular vote. But hey, if you can keep voting and have em count, why not call all your welfare friends to do the same.

      February 12, 2013 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
  5. TakeResponsibility

    She would be at work

    February 12, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Hank

    They probably killed him yesterday and are gonna make this look like defense killing up in the woods for nobody to see. They want him dead because he knows something...?

    February 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • SixDegrees

      If he knew something, he's had years to tell it to any of several newspapers or even the Justice Department, both of which have serious axes to grind against the LAPD, and who would have rolled out a red carpet for Dorner or anyone else with even a smidgen of information regarding force corruption.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kurt Steiner

      Exactly. Let's stop acting like he's Watergate's Deep Throat or something. Give me a break. He's a dude with serious mental issues.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Vic Aguirre

    LOL...Think your right, he will make it out of this one...He will not give up! So SBSO do him the favor.

    February 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
  8. WP

    Too bad a whistle blower had to end up like this. If it was not for a civilian video tape, Rodney King would have spent years behind bars instead of suing the LAPD and walking away a millionaire. Like a lot of cops out there.............corruption is rampant and lets hope they do not find this guy innocent after they capture and kill him.

    February 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Whistle blower? Does any of us know what really happened? NO! I dont care what happened with him.. he killed three people. Three people that had nothing to do with him or what happened with whatever caused his job termination. For those of you who cheering for this guy? Shame on you. Life is unfair. Bad things happen to people every day of every year. Its 100 insane to think what hes doing is ok. I want my life back. My name.. what ever. Pop Pop Pop.. Dead people. Really!?!?! Whats wrong with this world? How easy we have made it for people to go over the edge and freakin justify it. Then hearing about the face book fan clubs and what not.. People trying to get domain names with his name. You are all sick. Go look the families of those MURDERED people and tell them its ok. Dorner was mad that he was fired, but its ok. Sad day for the human race to see this kind of crap.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cop fan

      don't forget drowning in a pool cause he never used the money to take a swimming lesson.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • J

      Daniel, I couldn't have said it any better myself. I will just express my support for your comments. I've read several and they are terrific.

      February 12, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
  9. bankrupt1

    swat and bunker busters. so is this someone else's house?

    February 12, 2013 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Double D's

    LAPD Commisioner," Innocent Law Enforcement Officials", ha yeah right! Mr. Dorners gonna make an example out of ya'll...
    If the LAPD is so innocent why the restrictions on media and flight in the area? Obviously there is something the LAPD has something bigger to hide!

    February 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • james bond

      that's what i'm saying

      February 12, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Miss Me

      why do you assume the people whose home he invaded are LAPD. Big Bear is pretty far from L.A.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
  11. us_1776

    Bye Dorner.

    This was not the way to handle your grievance.

    .

    February 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • RF Burns

      No doubt the LAPD needs an enema, but murdering 3 people, shooting 4 more, kidnapping an elderly couple & stealing their car is not the way to lend credibility to the cause.

      February 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
  12. john

    Sometimes this is what it takes to get real change. Its sad but its true. People don’t change until they have something to fear, losing their jobs, being arrested, etc... But when the people doing wrong are the people that make the rules then it normally takes bloodshed to show them that they are still touchable. This needs to change and we need to have some sort of a system that polices the police and other government officials so people don’t feel like this and other extreme reactions like rioting, etc…, is their only way to affect true change.

    February 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Your father

    Besides Rambo and hero talk Don't we(american)really need to know the truth and give him a trial ? even Saddam was given that opportunity who has killed more innocent people then Dorner ...

    February 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan StoHelit

      If they can – but what trial did Dorner give to those he murdered?

      I wouldn't waste another person's life on getting him out alive, if it can be done safely, sure.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  14. WillH85

    And of course now the cops want the news helicopters to pull back so they can do what ever they want and won't be on film.

    February 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Al

      Re you really that shallow to realize, for the copers safety pull back he kills anyone, what would stop him from shooting them down to cause a diversion?

      February 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • MD

      Agreed.....They know something that we don't and are scared the truth will come out about corruption

      February 12, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Wow... Yes now the cops want to hide what happens? None of these guys dealing with this wacko know anything about whatever the ^@(# happend with his termination. You people amaze me with your fantasy logic of this event. Guess when someone wants to do bad things,,, well just mail a 20 page letter to CNN and then start wacking people. But its ok because he was mad. He was done wrong. Grow up people. My goodness.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
  15. susans

    Jesus is love

    February 12, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      Jesus is fiction.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gordon

      Jesus works as a dishwasher in the restaurant I go to sometimes.

      February 12, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
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