Live blog: 12, plus suspect, dead after Navy Yard shooting
The FBI identified the dead suspect in Monday's shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard as Aaron Alexis, 34, a military contractor from Texas.
September 16th, 2013
10:47 PM ET

Live blog: 12, plus suspect, dead after Navy Yard shooting

Shots were fired Monday at a Washington Navy Yard building, killing at least 12 people and injuring 14 others, according to local officials and the Navy.

Also killed was a suspect, Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old military information-technology contractor and former full-time Navy reservist who lived in Texas, the FBI said. One other gunman may be on the loose, police said.

The incident began about 8:20 a.m. ET when several shots were fired inside the Naval Sea Systems Command headquarters in the southeast portion of the capital. Developments below:

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] Police released the names and ages of seven of the 12 people killed in the shooting. None of the seven was military personnel:

– Michael Arnold, 59
- Sylvia Frasier, 53
- Kathy Gaarde, 62
- John Roger Johnson, 73
- Frank Kohler, 50
- Kenneth Bernard Proctor, 46
- Vishnu Pandit, 61.

[Updated at 10:40 p.m. ET] Alexis had access to the yard because of his contracting work, and he used a valid pass to enter the yard, said Valerie Parlave, assistant director in charge of the Washington FBI field office.

[Updated at 10:39 p.m. ET] Besides the 13 people who were killed, eight people were injured in Monday morning's shooting, Washington Mayor Vincent Gray told reporters Monday night. Three of those were injured by gunfire, and the others had other types of injuries, such as contusions and chest pain.

Earlier Monday night, Navy Vice Adm. William D. French said 14 people were injured. The 13 dead include suspect Aaron Alexis.

[Updated at 10:38 p.m. ET] Washington police are confident that only one person was involved in Monday morning's shooting, and they are lifting a shelter-in-place order for residents who live nearby, Police Chief Cathy Lanier said Monday night. Authorities have said suspect Aaron Alexis, 34, was killed after an encounter with security.

[Updated at 9:37 p.m. ET] One of the weapons that Alexis is accused of using was purchased recently at a store in northern Virginia, an FBI source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Pamela Brown.

[Updated at 8:52 p.m. ET] Alexis worked with The Experts, a subcontractor working on Hewlett Packard's contracts with the military, according to The Experts' chief executive officer, Thomas Hoshko.

Alexis received secret-level security clearance through the Defense Department twice in roughly the past year: Once for an assignment with The Experts to work on an HP contract in Japan refreshing computer systems late last year and early this year, and again in July for the Navy Yard assignment, Hoshko told CNN's Drew Griffin.

[Updated at 8:43 p.m. ET] The Washington police officer who had surgery after being shot in his legs is "alert, he's talkative, and he's doing very well," said Janis Orlowski, the chief medical officer at Medstar Washington Hospital Center.

Earlier, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported that doctors will begin to determine on Tuesday whether he will be able to keep the legs.

[Updated at 8:27 p.m. ET] Besides the 13 people who were killed, 14 people were injured in Monday morning's shooting at the Washington Navy Yard, Navy Vice Adm. William D. French told reporters Monday night. The 13 dead include suspect Aaron Alexis.

[Updated at 8:26 p.m. ET] About 2,000 people have yet to be released from the Washington Navy Yard after Monday morning's shooting there, though officials hope to let them go in the next three hours, Navy Vice Admiral William D. French told reporters. The military is working with the FBI to process people on the base and release them, and officials are about halfway through the process, French said.

[Updated at 8:05 p.m. ET] Adding to what we reported earlier about Alexis' movements (see 7:11 p.m. post) - He entered the facility legally with a valid ID card, a federal law enforcement official told CNN's Susan Candiotti.

Alexis used a legally purchased AR-15 gun, according to the official.

[Updated at 8:03 p.m. ET] In Seattle, police say they arrested Alexis in 2004 for shooting out the tires of another man's vehicle in what Alexis later told detectives was an anger-fueled "blackout."

[Updated at 7:53 p.m. ET] The wounded Washington police officer who was in surgery today at Medstar Washington Hospital Center was shot multiple times in the legs, and doctors will begin to determine on Tuesday whether he will be able to keep the legs, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported.

[Updated at 7:42 p.m. ET] The names of those killed won't be released until 24 hours after the last relative on the entire list is notified of the deaths, a Pentagon official told CNN's Barbara Starr. This is the same way the Defense Department treats a mass casualty incident in a warzone.

[Updated at 7:11 p.m. ET] Before the shooting, Alexis drove into the naval yard with his military contractor identification card, a U.S. law enforcement official told CNN's Evan Perez.

Alexis, armed with three guns, walked into Building 197, made his way to an overlook above an atrium, and started shooting, the official said.

[Updated at 6:54 p.m. ET] Multiple law enforcement sources say that only one weapon was recovered from the scene of the shooting, CNN's Evan Perez and Pamela Brown report. The sources say the weapon was a "long gun."

[Updated at 6:47 p.m. ET] Michael Ritrovato, a friend and former roommate of Alexis, told CNN that Alexis was frustrated with the company that contracted him to work for the Navy.

Alexis claimed he wasn't paid properly by the company after returning from a months-long assignment to Japan last year, Ritrovato said.

It was unclear whether the dispute was over salary or expenses. Alexis just felt the company owed him money and had not paid him, Ritrovato said.

[Updated at 6:44 p.m. ET] One of Alexis' friends, Nutpisit Suthamtewakul, told CNN's Ed Lavandera that he had been Alexis' roommate for three years near Fort Worth, Texas, ending a few months ago when Suthamtewakul got married.

Alexis befriended Suthamtewakul four years ago after he emigrated from Thailand, and taught Suthamtewakul about American culture, Suthamtewakul told CNN. Alexis, he said, was fluent in Thai and attended a Buddhist temple.

When Suthamtewakul opened the Happy Bowl Thai Restaurant, Alexis would occasionally help out, waiting tables, he said.

Suthamtewakul reeled at the news that Alexis was believed to be a gunman in the rampage at the Navy Yard.

"I can't believe he did this," he said. "He never showed any sign of violence."

[Updated at 6:20 p.m. ET] Alexis was discharged from the Navy following a "pattern of misconduct," a U.S. defense official told CNN's Barbara Starr. Navy records indicate he was a full-time Navy reservist between 2007 and January 2011.

[Updated at 6:15 p.m. ET] Investigators still don't know of a motive in the shooting, D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said at a news conference moments ago.

And investigators still are looking for a person who, other than Alexis, might have been involved in the shootings, Gray said. Like before, the description of this person is: a black man in military-style drab-olive clothing, about 50 years old, and about 5 feet 10 inches tall, with gray sideburns.

Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier said that one of the three wounded people being treated at MedStar Washington Hospital Center a Washington police officer is out of surgery and is in a stable condition.

"We know he's going to be OK," Lanier said. The other two patients also are expected to survive, a hospital official told reporters earlier.

[Updated at 6:02 p.m. ET] When asked whether Alexis was authorized to be at the Navy Yard, Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus said that was "part of the investigation."

"The only thing we know was that at one point, he was a Navy contractor. Whether he was today, I don’t know,” Mabus told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

[Updated at 5:56 p.m. ET] Alexis was most recently a Navy contractor working in the area of information technology, Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus said.

We previously noted that Alexis left the Navy in January 2011 as an aviation electrician's mate 3rd class, after a nearly four-year Navy career. Mabus said that Alexis worked on airplane electrical systems.

[Updated at 5:25 p.m. ET] Navy Capt. Mark Vandroff says he was in a meeting on the third floor of the yard's Building 197 on Monday morning when he heard someone shouting about gunshots being fired there.

“Lock the doors! Lock the doors,” the person shouted, according to Vandroff.

He and others took shelter in a conference room and in other rooms, and they lay on the floor for about an hour and a half, occasionally texting colleagues to get information about their situations. Over the course of about 40 minutes, gunshots could be heard intermittently, he said.

At one point, Vandroff said, two bullets were fired through the walls of the conference room where he was waiting.

Vandroff said all 60 of the people who report to him got out alive, but he was told that one of his friends in the building died.

“That’s been hard to process," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

Building 197 is one of three Naval Sea Systems Command buildings at the yard. The command acquires and maintains ships and submarines and their systems; Vandroff said his group is in charge of non-nuclear surface ships.

“I was very proud of my people. We were all afraid, but no one panicked,” he said.

[Updated at 4:44 p.m. ET] More about Alexis: He was last known to live in Fort Worth, Texas, but was born in Queens, New York, according to the FBI.

He enlisted in the Navy in May 2007 and left as an aviation electrician's mate 3rd class in January 2011, according to Navy records.

[Updated at 4:40 p.m. ET] The FBI has released the following pictures of Alexis. The bureau is asking people with any information about him to call it at 1-800-CALL-FBI. The FBI is looking for information about his recent movements and "his contacts and his associates," said Valerie Parlave, assistant director in charge of the Washington FBI Field Office, at a news conference in Washington.

[Updated at 4:34 p.m. ET] Authorities still are looking for a person who, beyond Alexis, might have been involved in the shootings, D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said. The description of this person remains as it was before: a black man in military-style drab-olive clothing, about 50 years old, and about 5 feet 10 inches tall.

[Updated at 4:31 p.m. ET] Alexis died while engaged in a gunfire exchange with police officers and did not kill himself, Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier and D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said at a news conference.

[Updated at 4:24 p.m. ET] Twelve people, plus the shooter, killed in the Washington Navy Yard shooting, D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said moments ago.

[Updated at 4:13 p.m. ET] Of the three wounded people who are being treated at MedStar Washington Hospital Center, two are Navy employees and one is a Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer, according to Navy Secretary Ray Mabus.

[Updated at 4:09 p.m. ET] We'll have more information about the dead suspect, Aaron Alexis, shortly. Right now, here are some details about the three wounded people who were taken to MedStar Washington Hospital Center, according to the hospital's chief medical officer, Janis Orlowski:

All three were talking when they arrived, and they are expected to have at least a good, if not full, recovery. One man is in surgery, having suffered gunshot wounds to the lower extremities, Orlowski said.

The two other wounded victims are women. One is in surgery for a shoulder wound. Just before the surgery, she in was in "very good spirits," Orlowski said.

The third patient is a "very, very lucky young lady," Orlowski said. This woman has injuries to her hand and head - and the the bullet wound to the head did not penetrate bone, according to Orlowski. "Obviously she has suffered a significant wound, but she will recover without surgery," Orlowski said.

[Updated at 3:55 p.m. ET] The dead suspect was Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old military contractor from Texas, the Washington FBI field office told CNN’s Pamela Brown.

Alexis was identified through fingerprints and an identification card that was on the suspect's body, the FBI field office said.

[Updated at 3:51 p.m. ET] We're expecting a news conference to begin soon at the MedStar Washington Hospital Center, where victims of the shooting were sent. Navy Secretary Ray Mabus is expected to be among the speakers. Minutes ago, he tweeted that he was at the center to meet with victims.

[Updated at 3:34 p.m. ET] The dead suspect has been fingerprinted and identified, a government official with detailed knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Deborah Feyerick.

[Updated at 3:17 p.m. ET] The Washington Nationals baseball team, whose parking Lot B is being used as a reunification point for Navy Yard evacuees and their loved ones, has postponed the game it was scheduled to play tonight against the visiting Atlanta Braves.

"All of us here in the Nationals organization were deeply saddened to learn of the tragic events that occurred this morning only a few blocks from Nationals Park. Our thoughts and prayers remain with our friends at the Navy Yard and those impacted by today's incident," the team said in a statement.

https://twitter.com/NationalsPR/status/379684244999503873

[Updated at 3:12 p.m. ET] A reminder from the public school system:

[Updated at 3:11 p.m. ET] The Senate side of the Capitol will go into lock-down for about two hours, a senior Democratic source tells CNN.

The source said that after Virginia Tech and Boston, it's "just not wise to start sending staff outside to wander. We want to give D.C. police a chance to do their jobs."

The House side is not planning a lock-down, senior Republican leadership aides say.

[Updated at 2:54 p.m. ET] Washington police say the white male who was sought in connection with the shooting has been cleared as a suspect:

[Updated at 2:52 p.m. ET] The Navy wants to account for all of its personnel in the area:

[Updated at 2:50 p.m. ET] Students at the eight public schools that have been on lock-down will be released on time, spokeswoman Melissa Salmanowitz said.

“All schools will dismiss as usual today. We will have additional security at schools to help facilitate, and we continue to work with (local police) to ensure our schools are safe. Athletics scheduled at Eastern High School and Eliot-Hine Middle School have been cancelled. All other afterschool programming is on as scheduled," she said.

[Updated at 2:42 p.m. ET] At this stage of the investigation, authorities have no reason to believe the Navy Yard shootings were a terrorist attack, said Mayor Vincent Gray. Police have yet to determine a motive, said Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier.

[Updated at 2:39 p.m. ET] Click here for a rundown of several U.S. rampage killings since 1949.

[Updated at 2:35 p.m. ET] Pentagon press secretary George Little has issued another statement:

[Updated at 2:29 p.m. ET] Flights and buses in Washington are experiencing delays, and traffic is congested by several street closures, according to CNN affiliate WUSA.

[Updated at 2:26 p.m. ET] Here's the news conference at which the Washington police chief announced the death toll:

[Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET] The U.S. Senate has recessed because of the shootings.

[Updated at 2:14 p.m. ET] Washington police are asking that anyone with information on the suspect or suspects call the FBI:

[Updated at 2:10 p.m. ET] Navy Secretary Ray Mabus has shared a link with information on the shootings:

[Updated at 2:07 p.m. ET] At least 12 people have been killed in the Navy Yard shootings, Mayor Vincent Gray says.

[Updated at 2:05 p.m. ET] At Washington Nationals' baseball stadium Lot B, where people have gathered to reunite with their loved ones, the evacuees from the Navy Yard have not yet arrived. There is no timeline for when the buses carrying them are expected to arrive.

Jacqueline Alston said she hasn't heard from her husband of 18 years, Ernest , who has worked as a custodial worker in Building 197 since 2008.

"Right now, only God is there with me. Right now, I'm asking God to let me hear that voice, to let me see that man again," she said. "All I know is I'm supposed to be patient, which I am trying to hold on, being patient and understanding, and ask God what created this problem? What started this?"

[Updated at 1:55 p.m. ET] An elite FBI unit, the National Capital Response Team, which includes a SWAT unit from the Washington field office, is working to clear all Navy Yard buildings, according to authorities.

[Updated at 1:51 p.m. ET] A naval commander says he witnessed a man being shot in the head.

[Updated at 1:49 p.m. ET] Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier is expected to hold another news conference within the hour.

[Updated at 1:37 p.m. ET] There are still people inside the Navy Yard's Building 197, where the shooting incident began, according to CNN affiliate WJLA, which cites the Naval Sea Systems Command as its source.

[Updated at 1:33 p.m. ET] Some background on the Navy Yard:

The 3,000-employee facility has a an annual budget of almost $30 billion.

It is the Navy's oldest land establishment, created by act of Congress in 1799, according to the Naval History and Heritage Command. Located along the Anacostia River, it was initially intended as a shipbuilding facility and once serviced the Navy's most famous vessels, including the USS Constitution.

But after it was burned during the War of 1812, the Navy Yard was transformed into a center for ordnance and technological development. The facility was the world's largest ordnance plant during World War II, but its military role diminished during the Cold War. Today, it includes the headquarters for Naval District Washington and a naval museum.

[Updated at 1:24 p.m.] A U.S. senator from Wisconsin thanked authorities on the scene:

[Updated at 1:21 p.m.] In announcing that three shooting victims transported to MedStar Washington Hospital Center are expected to survive, Janis Orlowski, the chief medical officer, said there were other "individuals at the scene who will not be transported because they are deceased."

The other three victims - one of whom was shot in the shoulder and another who was shot in the head - were transported via helicopter and were alert and responsive.

"They do have severe injuries, but we've been able to speak with all of them," Orlowski said. "They've not been able to give us any information about what happened to them."

The police officer who was among the wounded is in surgery for an injury involving "bones and blood vessels of the lower legs," Orlowski said.

[Updated at 1:07 p.m. ET] "We have no information to believe that either of those folks are military personnel, but we do have information that those individuals are wearing military-style clothing," Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier says.

[Updated at 1:04 p.m. ET] Police are still looking for a white man and a black man in military-style clothing, according to Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier.

[Updated at 12:57 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama says to remember the victims as the investigation unfolds:

[Updated at 12:54 p.m. ET] A police officer and his canine inspect vehicles at a parking lot outside the Washington Navy Yard.

[Updated at 12:50 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama says the country will stand with the victim's families:

[Updated at 12:48 p.m. ET] Police have released another description of a suspect in the shooting:

[Updated at 12:46 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama lamented that the U.S. is "confronting another mass shooting" and called for a seamless investigation involving federal agencies and the military.

[Updated at 12:41 p.m. ET] The Washington police have tweeted a reminder to family members concerned about their loved ones:

[Updated at 12:40 p.m. ET] Obama vows the people responsible for the shooting will be held accountable, as the White House tweets this:

[Updated at 12:39 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama describes the Navy Yard shooting as a "cowardly" act "that targeted military and civilian personnel." He also notes that several people have been shot, some of them fatally.

[Updated at 12:36 p.m. ET] Public schools will remain on lock-down for now:

[Updated at 12:34 p.m. ET] The Washington police chief discusses the possibility of additional shooters:

[Updated at 12:30 p.m ET] A man in his 60s who arrived at George Washington University Hospital with a gunshot wound to his left temple was pronounced dead upon arrival, said hospital spokeswoman Jen Rizzo.

More patients are arriving, she said, and the hospital can handle four or five more critically injured patients and 20 with non-critical injuries. It's not clear how many more are coming, she said.

[Updated at 12:22 p.m. ET] Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier also confirms an earlier report of "multiple" fatalities.

[Updated 12:21 p.m. ET] There are "potentially" two other shooters being sought in connection with the Navy Yard shootings, Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier says, confirming one suspect is dead inside Building 197.

[Updated at 12:19 p.m. ET] An update from Pentagon press secretary George Little:

[Updated at 12:16 p.m. ET] The Pentagon Force Protection Agency has "increased its security posture, not out of a specific threat, but as a proactive, precautionary measure related to the ongoing incident at the Navy Yard."

This means more officers at Pentagon entrances armed with automatic weapons, according to Lt. Col. Tom Crosson, a Pentagon spokesman. The Department of Defense has also halted its shuttle services between the Pentagon, the Navy Yard and nearby Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling.

[Updated at 12:10 p.m. ET] If you missed it, here's the hospital news conference from from a few minutes ago.

[Updated at 12:06 p.m. ET] Another witness describes what she saw at the Navy Yard.

[Updated at 12:04 p.m. ET] If you need your bearings, here's a map of the area:

[Updated at 11:58 a.m. ET] Paul Williams, who works at a nearby nonprofit, was headed to his office when he witnessed panic coming from the Navy Yard.

"I had my headphones in, so I didn't know what was going on," Williams, 29, told CNN. "I was listening to music, but I heard four rapid bangs - bang, bang, bang, bang."

At first, he thought it was construction noise - something common in the area - but less than a minute later, he saw what he estimated to be hundreds of people coming toward him.

"I didn't know what was happening. I just ran with them," Williams said, adding, "Everyone seemed scared. People were crying. People were being consoled and calling loved ones and family."

[Updated at 11:53 a.m. ET] One suspected shooter is dead, a senior Navy official tells CNN

[Updated at 11:51 a.m. ET] The Navy has issued two phone numbers for family members looking for loved ones.

[Updated at 11:48 a.m. ET] Navy Secretary Ray Mabus has issued two remarks via Twitter:

[Updated at 11:46 a.m. ET] A man and two women were admitted to MedStar Washington Hospital Center with "severe injuries" from multiple gunshot wounds, said chief medical officer Janis Orlowski, adding that the injuries do not appear life-threatening.

[Updated at 11:42 a.m. ET] As authorities work to clear Building 197, where the shootings happened, to ensure there are no additional shooters, Naval District Washington spokesman Ed Zeigler says that the two injured police officer are not among the fatalities reported earlier.

[Updated at 11:37 a.m. ET] The top Navy officer, Adm. Jonathan Greenart, tells CNN he was evacuated from his residence at the Navy Yard when the shooting began.

[Updated at 11:36 a.m. ET] "Multiple" people have been killed in the shooting, Naval District Washington spokesman Ed Zeigler says.

[Updated at 11:34 a.m. ET] Two suspected shooters "are down" at the Washington Navy Yard, according to Naval District Washington spokesman Ed Zeigler.

[Updated at 11:31 a.m. ET] Helicopters are hovering over the scene, and it appears one chopper contains a police sniper.

[Updated at 11:21 a.m. ET] Witnesses describe what they saw and heard.

[Updated at 11:18 a.m. ET] The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is dispatching the same special response team used to take the Boston Marathon bomber into custody, said a law enforcement official.

About 20 specially trained agents, accompanied by an armored vehicle, will work with local authorities when they arrive on the scene. ATF agents are already on the perimeter, engaged in the investigation, the ATF says.

[Updated at 11:12 a.m. ET] Pentagon spokesman George Little says he believes "there has been loss of life," but he would not say how many people are believed dead.

[Updated at 11:07 a.m. ET] Local police have issued a statement for those concerned about their loved ones.

[Updated at 11:05 a.m. ET] Heavily armed SWAT officers were seen escorting people from the building where shots were fired.

[Updated at 10:58 a.m. ET] Two witnesses tell CNN affiliate WJLA they heard their building's fire alarm go off and saw a man with a rifle as they exited the building.

"He aimed the gun and fired our way," Todd Brundidge told the station. "I couldn't believe it."

People frantically tried to escape the building, he said. "They were pushing. They were shoving. People were falling down."

[Updated at 10:51 a.m. ET] At least six Washington-area schools are on lock-down following the shooting, the public school system tweeted.

[Updated at 10:50 a.m. ET] In addition to the injured Washington, D.C., officer, a base security guard was also injured, said Metropolitan Police Department spokeswoman Saray Leon.

[Updated at 10:48 a.m. ET] About 3,000 people work at the Naval Sea Systems Command's headquarters, the Navy says.

[Updated at 10:46 a.m. ET] At least 10 people have been injured in the shooting, according to police, and the U.S. Navy has issued a statement saying there are "several injuries with reports of fatalities."

[Updated at 10:43 a.m. ET] The suspect in the shooting is a 6-foot tall, bald black male of medium complexion, wearing a black shirt and jeans, said D.C. Metropolitan Police spokesman Chris Kelly.

[Updated at 10:40 a.m. ET] Counterterrorism officials have briefed President Barack Obama "several times" about the shooting, a White House official says.

soundoff (241 Responses)
  1. Rod

    They should switch off all power to the area, in case they are sending data or scanning computers for secrets.If they can block mobile phones and landline phones that would be a good move as well.

    September 16, 2013 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Yeah, maybe we should shut down power all around the world. The suspects are clearly interested in playing Donkey Kong on the Navy computers.

      I think the killers are simply low grade computer hackers who shoot their way into highly secured environments where there are computers and televisions, then they hack in from the keyboard. Happens all the time.

      September 16, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • rick

      why havnt they talked about what there video caught it should be loaded

      September 16, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Will

    I mean...I'm just wondering...if it happend in a Navy yard, shouldn't they fight back since they are the military?

    September 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dean Borchert

      Where was base security? This place was easy pickings apparently.

      The police showed up in "minutes". Congrats to the police, but too bad for all if those innocents.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • navy wife

      This is a facility filled mostly with Navy engineers and civilian personnel who would not only be unarmed but many of whom would also lack combat training. That also makes this all the more cowardly and evil if it turns out to have been an anti-military attack.

      (There would be armed military police around, of course, but you'd see far fewer than you'd see at other, more "typical" military bases.)

      September 16, 2013 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • govskeptic

      My condolences to our servicemen if this is a true event.. What concerns me about this sadly is comparing this to CONFIRMED FALSE FLAG sandy hook and other quote"mass shootings"most also proven to have been FALSE FLAGS.. SADLY OUR EMOTIONS ARE BEING MANIPULATED TO THE POINT OF SKEPTICISM TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT SHOULD BE 100% SYMPATHY FOR FALLEN AMERICANS AND THIER FAMILIES!!! ALL AMERICANS SHOULD OPEN CARRY!!! PERIOD

      September 16, 2013 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • S

      @govskeptic: Do you honestly think everyone being armed at all times would cut down on casualties? How many times have you see an argument escalate in public settings? Do you really want those people having guns on them? There are people here saying that this is a conspiracy and the government planted this. Do you want those people having guns on them? A lot of people are crazy, have mental issues, or just simply have short fuses and absolutely should not be carrying weapons at all times.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Yes, govskeptic is really sad because all these mass killings are fake, conspiracies, brought to you by the same folks that made all those dinosauer bones (we all know Earth is only 2013 years old).

      Yeah – 9/11 nevered happened, nor Sandy Hook or Columbine or WWII. Fake.

      Fact is: In America, NO ONE has ever been killed by a gun. All those stories are made up by the liberal media.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jess

      "IF" this happened?
      And Sandy Hook didn't happen? Want to adjust your foil cap, govskeptic? You're a wee bit paranoid.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jess

      The government did this, S? Adjust you cap a little more firmly, also. What a load of garbage.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Ed Travers

    Will this be the incident that raises the government to inforce a gun law. We know children and teachers being shot doesn't matter to pass such a law...I'm so tired of things like this and then the NRA gets their way. When did they get a louder voice then Americans.

    September 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • logic

      they truly don't for every anti gun letter written to congress 4 pro gun are written that's why

      September 16, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • govskeptic

      My condolences to our servicemen if this is a true event.. What concerns me about this sadly is comparing this to CONFIRMED FALSE FLAG sandy hook and other quote"mass shootings"most also proven to have been FALSE FLAGS.. SADLY OUR EMOTIONS ARE BEING MANIPULATED TO THE POINT OF SKEPTICISM TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT SHOULD BE 100% SYMPATHY FOR FALLEN AMERICANS AND THIER FAMILIES!!!

      September 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • S

      @govskeptic: What are you talking about, "if this is a true event"? You think this is made up? How stupid are you? As for the rest of your post, I have no clue what you are even trying to say. The fact that you think this might not be true is enough for everyone else to ignore what you say.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • BG

      I dont know what you are thinking but this makes me want to buy a gun for safety. If someone there had a gun many lives could have been saved. These freaks

      September 16, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • BG

      I dont know what you are thinking but this makes me want to buy a gun for safety. If someone there had a gun many lives could have been saved. These freaks hit soft targets where they know there are no guns. Do you want to be a victim or would you prefer to live?

      September 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • doug.attig@gmail.com

      Think about it – DC has some of the tightest gun control laws in the country!

      September 16, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shawn

      Ed, I like the way you phrased your statement, "enforce" gun laws, not try and write more. The US has more than 2500 gun laws, many that satisfy what people are asking for yet they are not enforced because they are not funded. Additionally, more gun laws would not have had any affect on this event as DC has very strict gun laws and it happened on a military base where firearms are forbidden (except those in use by security personnel).

      September 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • RobSpooner

      Yes, Shawn, Ed should have spelled it "enforce," as you should have spelled it "effect." Spelling isn't the point, though. We will go on having these incidents because it's the down side of the Bill of Rights. We need the First Amendment and the Second Amendment is the price we pay.

      September 16, 2013 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Dean Borchert

    Selling advertisement time on these important national security type videos is reprehensible.

    I urge everyone to write your feelings on this subject also.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • rick

      It,s the American way if it bleeds it leads money time

      September 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Paul

    So, you want to ban guns? I get it, people commit murder, alot of them are with guns. Banning guns may cause numbers to drop intially...for those who actually have registered firearms. But what about all the guns out on the black market? What about the unregistered fire arms...which are more likely to be used ina crime? How do you control them?

    I have been around firearms my whole life. I am a military veteran and I own firearms....all of which I have gone through the proper channels and are registered. I go to the shooting range...I hunt...I teach firearm safety....and I am a responsible human being. Maybe I'm the exception and not the norm.

    People wanting to do this sort of things will always find the means to do so. Like I said there is a black market for firearms. If the government wants to do somethign about gun control, they should look to that sector. I have never been in trouble with the law and and I excercised my rights to own firearms. I have done so legally and I have been responsible. I have held up my end of the bargain as far as I'm concerned. Can our government say the same?

    I truly do feel horrible for the families of all the victims in this tragedy. I'm a husband and a father of two...my thoughts and prayers are with them.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
  6. melthtemdownnow

    Nothing good will come from this unless this "incident" turns out to be the final nail in the coffin of the 2nd Amendment & the NRA as we know them. We all have the right to live without the fear of being shot by an irresponsible or out-of-control gun owner. I say ID & register every firearm in this country & make it a felony to own or possess a gun that isn't registered . . . and worse if you use it. Sorry you "self-appointed cops", "wannabe militia members", and "theoretical big-game hunters" you're all outlaws & no better than a stupid gang banger!

    September 16, 2013 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • todlich

      DC's gun laws are among the tightest in the nation. That's why bystanders couldn't defend themselves.

      September 16, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • PaddyHenry

      I think we should register all traitors like you. My guns were registered when I purchased them. I don't care if the government knows because I am not a criminal, but a law abiding citizen. When the laws are wrong or the elected officials fail to represent the electorate, we will recall them. I am from Colorado, where the gun grabbers recently got a rude reminder of just how many of us there are. Molon Labe

      September 16, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Super Cowboy USA Hot Dog Rocket Ship American

      You know this shooting took place at a military base in one of the strictest gun control places in America (Washington, DC) right?

      Gun control didn't help anyone in this situation.

      90% of people who are for gun control haven't been around guns and are scared of them. Media coverage of this type makes people even more scared of guns. Go to a range with a friend, fire off a few shots. Guns aren't the problem, crazy people are. You can bet your ass a CHL holder would have dropped the shooters if he was present.

      September 16, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  7. chrissy

    What a tragic thing to happen! And its awful how some posters here want to sling blame without any facts! I only heard about this a short time ago and havent heard many details except there were 12 deaths. Bless those families and my prayers to them.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      I agree our good friend. This is sad.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
  8. rick

    where,s all there video place must be loaded

    September 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Gee rick, now that's a brilliant question. Where is all the video?

      Hmmmm ... maybe in the video cameras? Just a wild guess. Yep, I'm sure no one involved in security at the base thought about that there could be eyewitnesses, or even, gasp, video. Thanks rick, I'll bet their searching for those missing video's right now after they read your question on this blog.

      rick ... where do you think all the video is?

      September 16, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Now that's a great question rick ... where is all the video?

      Hmmmm ... I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest, maybe it's in the video camera equipment.

      Whew ... glad we sorted through that one.

      September 16, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Buckeye Jim

    From several. maps of the Navy Yard available on the Internet, building 197 is the cafeteria.
    How much building security would there be on the cafeteria?

    September 16, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • humberto

      Probably the only place that has U.S .Currency on the lot.

      September 16, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Greg

    One sounds like a person with a grudge. Two or more sounds like a coordinated attack. Whether foreign or homegrown remains to be seen. As far as I have seen there has been no report of the weapons used, so I wish everyone would just hold their anti-gun comments until we do know.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Wow ... this happened here in America, where the average citizen owns 9 guns?

      That's strange, how come there are never mass murders in places like England or Australia where they have strict gun control?

      Must be NASCAR. I mean, what else could be the difference, except those 700 MILLION guns in Americans hands?

      September 16, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Morgan

    So, the Senate would rather dismiss itself than, I don't know...pass some reasonable gun control legislation???? Thanks for nothing you worthless piles of lobby fodder.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Patrick

    This isn't good news at all. I hope no one was injured.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Patrick

    I am deeply shocked and saddened by these events. Many of us are hoping no one was injured.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Absolutely shocking – someone was killed in America. Wow.

      I agree Patrick hopefully no one got hurt. I'm also hoping no one got hurt during 9/11 or WWII.

      September 16, 2013 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  14. PissedinMaryland

    So, I guess the PBS Concert Series at the White House will go on as planned? The President will be "shaking his groove thang" (quoted from the First Lady this morning). I am sure some celebrity will dedicate a song. Such poor taste in a somber time.

    September 16, 2013 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  15. patrick

    OMG! They cancelled the baseball game too??? This shooting is turning into a big deal!!

    September 16, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
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