April 28th, 2010
02:47 PM ET

Tea Partiers to illegal immigrants: 'Sign guestbook'

Lee Earle, left, and Ronald Ludders of Phoenix support Arizona's new immigration law.

Lee Earle, a self-identified “Tea Party facilitator” in Arizona, ground zero of the immigration debate, wants you to know that he supports immigration. He considers it the lifeblood of American society and the backbone of our economy – if it’s done legally.

“We want immigration. We need immigration! All we want is for people to sign the guestbook at the door,” said Earle, a Phoenix resident. “Being an illegal immigrant in Arizona is like trespassing. If you’re in my house and you’re not invited, then I have every right to send you out.”

Earle says he supports Arizona’s controversial new law targeting illegal immigration because it lets local law enforcement do what the federal government should be doing to stop people from entering the country unlawfully.

“When people come here without permission, when they come here illegally, they automatically become victims of the coyotes who bring them over and the employers who take advantage of their cheap labor,” Earle said. “Let them come legally so they can take advantage of all the wonderful services and opportunities this great nation has to offer and they can contribute in a meaningful way.”

Earle, a loquacious retiree who gesticulates frequently as he fires off in a stream-of-consciousness manner, shared his thoughts Tuesday night before a legislative district meeting at the Jumbo Buffet in a strip mall in southwest Phoenix.

Dressed in a Hawaiian shirt and jeans, his long gray hair pulled back, Earle said he blames health care, education and incarceration for illegal immigrants for contributing to the state’s $2 billion budget deficit.

“It’s a monetary thing for the state, because I’m a taxpayer but also a human concerned because they can’t take advantage of our legal system because they’re afraid of being deported,” he said.

Earle’s friend and fellow Tea Partier Ronald Ludders dismissed with a wave of the hand the suggestion that the bill encourages racial profiling.

“Illegal is not a race," said Ludders, who, like Earle, is a Republican precinct committeeman for his legislative district. “Law enforcement will be looking for people who they have reasonable suspicion to believe are breaking the law. They cannot stop them based on the color of their skin.”

Both men say this is not about hating Hispanics: Ludders has a home in Mexico, and Earle lives in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood.

“This is about fixing a problem that has been plaguing our communities for a long time. If the federal government isn’t going to do anything, I’m proud of Arizona for stepping up to the plate,” Earle said.

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  1. SonnyRey

    There is a lot of confusion with the term "American," includes all people of both North and Souh America. This is true especially among politcians who try to fool the public in the interest of getting votes.

    We need a better term to differentiate "legals" from "illegals." A better term might be "U.S. Person." According to the National Security Agency web site (per Wikipedia), Federal law and executive order define a United States person as any of the following:

    a citizen of the United States
    an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence
    an unincorporated association with a substantial number of members who are citizens of the U.S. or are aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence
    a corporation that is incorporated in the U.S.

    April 29, 2010 at 7:50 am | Report abuse |
  2. KugzKav

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs, (food stamps), WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

    3. $2.5 Billion a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    4. $12 Billion / yr. spent on primary and secondary education for children of Illegals.

    5. $17 Billion / yr. spent for education for the American-born anchor babies of illegals.

    6. $3 Million / DAY is spent to incarcerate illegals

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal..

    8. $90 Billion / year spent on illegals for Welfare & social services.

    9. $200 Billion / year in suppressed American wages are caused by illegal.

    10. Illegals have a crime rate two & a half times that of non-illegals. And children of Illegals dd to the crime problem.

    11. During the year of 2005 alone over 4 MILLION illegals crossed our Southern Border, as did nearly 20,00 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Additionally Millions of pounds of drugs including, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, entered the U.S.

    12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion. An average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a 5 year period.

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in to their home countries.

    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One MILLION sex crimes committed by Illegals.

    CITATION IS MISSING BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL FABRICATED.

    April 29, 2010 at 8:30 am | Report abuse |
  3. arvadh

    Three reasons SB1070 will never be enacted (at least not in its present form): 1) Legal precedent. Oklahoma, the previous national champion for tough immigration laws, just saw the 10th Circuit emasculate its Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007 (in Chamber of Commerce v. Edmondson) because it preempted federal immigration law; 2) Vagueness. The Arizona law fails to define or even suggest what constitutes the basis for establishing that a person is in the United States illegally, so that in practice it will almost certainly affect U.S. citizens and legal residents who look foreign while leaving other citizens and legal residents untainted by suspicion, which is anathema under a long list of civil rights laws and the federal Constitution (membership in an ethnic or racial group can never be the basis for probable cause); 3) Big business opposition. As the Oklahoma case reveals, big business (especially big agribusiness) won’t stand for this law, no matter what Gov. Brewer chooses to believe. Free labor markets are the last obstacle standing in the way of the globalization steamroller. Like all other populist reactions to globalization (including the tea party movement), this too shall be quashed.

    April 29, 2010 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
  4. Ken

    The only way to stop this problem is NO one hire them, no free medical treatment and welfare payments, see how fast their ass go's back home. The company that takes care of my yard raised their rate when I asked why was told they only hire DOCUMENTED workers now. Good for them

    April 29, 2010 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
  5. Chris

    feel this law is no different than the 287- G program , some parts of North Carolina has. The program works hand in hand with ICE. I don't beleive Police and Sheriffs are stopping people because of what they look like but because they have reasonable suspicion they broke a law. ( out of 10 times someone is going to pull the race card cause they don't beleive that they should have been stopped when in fact they should have. I support the law because illegal immigrants are undermining the system in place. Its not fair for those who have gone through the system to be here legally and worked hard and those that are not here legally get away with not having to go through the system . They should be deportaed.

    April 29, 2010 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
  6. Hank Highway

    Your either here legally or your not the rest is all political "smoke and mirrors"
    Wake Up America !

    April 29, 2010 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  7. Rob

    What is wrong with these politicians? Unemployment is at 10% and they want to add 20 million more people to the work force. These people don't have any rights, they are criminals. If I went out and robbed Wal-Mart these same moron politicians would put me in jail. Here is the truth. The Republicans want all the Illegals because they want America to be like China where slavery abounds. This slavery I speak of also includes American Citizens. Look at our economy now, there are so many people out of work most of us have become slaves because we have no choice we have to feed their families (Thanks to you George W. Bush – a criminal who should be jailed for his negligence). The Democrats want to hand out amnesty because they see a whole new voting base of roughly 10 to 20 million people who can keep them in power. There is concern over everybody's civil rights except those of us who are citizens. Vote these idiots out of office!!

    April 29, 2010 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
  8. JAOtto

    Illegal immigration is bad but is not the real threat to America and the economy. If the number 1 & 2 current issues on the minds of the vast majority of Americans is truly jobs and immigration then the focus needs to shift to “legal” immigration in stead of the illegal type. The real questions to the public should be “Whether the U.S. should allow the replacement of U.S. workers with foreigners imported under the several visa programs and should Government hire foreigners in stead of U.S workers?”

    Based on Government figures, every year over 200,000 U.S. workers are fired and replaced by foreigners imported for the specific purpose of replacing the competent U.S. worker. In summary, Visas (H-1b, L-1, O-1 and TN) are used to replace competent U.S. workers thus harming both the American and the economy. Currently, there are 850,000 U.S. jobs being occupied by foreigners imported under the visa programs. There is no shortage of Americans to fill those jobs. The majority of imported foreigners were brought to the U.S to replace competent U.S. workers. Thus, there are at least 850,000 competnert, formerly employed, U.S. workers on welfare straining the U.S. budget and not inputting into the U.S. economy.

    The U.S. Dept. of Labor statistics and studies from several Universities, establish that there has never been a year with a “shortage” of U.S. workers to fill all the jobs, especially in the computer field. Yet, Congress takes money every year from employers to allow the replacement of qualified U.S. workers with low pay foreign workers. Wall Street claims that there is a shortage of worker to fill their needs. Yet, with ever growing frequency, U.S. workers are forced to train their foreign replacements, who are unqualified to do the job. Thus far, big business has yet to explain how there could be a “shortage” when business must fire competent U.S. workers to make room for foreigners.

    There is no harm to the U.S. economy to send the foreigners home especially since most do not pay taxes. Because the foreign worker is considered a “guest-worker” the employer does not take out any employment taxes. The foreigners do not pay Social Security Taxes but do use the government health net, schools, roads, and other infrastructure. Further, the foreigners do not pay for the social cost of supporting the out of work American and their families. Also, the foreigners send their savings home to their foreign country thus depriving the U.S. economy of any extra earnings from the savings.

    The true scale of the harm is visible by understanding that in the past 20 years approximately 6,000,000 U.S. workers have been forced out of their careers and put on public welfare so that employers could replace them with foreigners. The U.S. taxpayer has and continues to picked up the tab to support the unemployed masses.

    For the past 15 years, it is undisputed that the H-1B program has been used by most, if not all, companies to replace U.S. workers with foreign workers. Because of Congress, a company uses their competent American worker to train H-1B foreigners, then fires the American worker and reduces the pay to the H-1B foreigner. Congress has always known of this practice to replace U.S. workers and in response passed laws to make it easier to do so.

    In fact, Indian Commerce Minister Kamal Nath referred to the H-1B as “the outsourcing visa” because of the ease of exporting cheap Indian labor to the U.S.

    Presently, anyone with a college degree can be replaced by a foreigner. "Replacement" has happened to IT professionals but also to lawyers, accountants, risk managers, business managers, chefs, human resource managers and the list goes on. Big Business is lobbing Congress to lift the cap on H1B Visa. At the same time, certain immigration groups want expansion of H1B to everyone and President Obama is quoted as favorable to their demands. Thus, Joe the plumber or Mary the electrician or Bob the factory worker will have to compete with foreigners for their jobs. Can you imagine a world were the super rich Wall Street bosses are protected from foreign wage competition but every other U.S. worker has to compete with the low wage scale foreigners. It is happening right now for anyone with a college degree.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
  9. fishfry001

    @Hawaiikaos, April 28th, 2010, 5:26 pm ET: You are SO wrong. The correct term for those who have broken our immigration laws and illegaly crossed our berder is "Illegal Alien". That stupid, Politically Correct "Undocumented Immigrant" crap is just that – crap. It's just another "softening" phrase to try to get away from the fact that these people are law breakers and need to be found and escorted out of the country. Laws like AZ SB 1070 will cause a lot of them to self-deport. If we can have laws like it passed country-wide it will do a tremendous job of getting these people to leave on their own and save the government tons on deportation costs. Stop sugar coating the problem and supporting lawlwss entry. And when will they change the anchor baby law?!?

    April 29, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  10. fishfry001

    AZ nurse, it is not "us" ( the citizens) who have tolerated illegal aliens all these years "because it wasn't a problem", rather it has been a back-door effort by our Federal Government in not enforcing our immigration laws because they are and have been sleeping with businesses (which contribute mightily to their election campaigns) and putting the interests of business above the interests of the people. Look at the recent failed effort to prosecute Pfizer for breaking the law regarding drugs they were pushing. Our government decided not to punish them "because they were too big and innocent people (read employees) would get hurt", so Pfizer engineers a sweet deal with the goevrnment where they suffer virtually no consequences whatsoever and dance merrily on. This country is run bu business, not the people and until we collectively recognize that and boot these "politicians" out on their butts and start electing regular patriotic people to Congress, it will never change.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Derek

    What's fantastic is a guy complains that his store which is fueled by illegals is empty and that story makes front page. But this link is hidden and not out in the open. Why can't we get some fair journalism and equal expression from both sides?

    April 29, 2010 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Bob

    Wrong! Non-citizens do not have the right to be here illegally. The Consitution only says that everyone gets a due legal process. That means it is Constitutional to find out who is legal and who is not and deport those who are not here legally as long as it is done by a proper legal process.

    "Anyone here actually READ the U.S. Constitution? It applies to EVERYONE, not just Americans. Sounds to me like everyone's been getting their info from either Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly or that total moron, Sarah Palin. Our Bill of Rights state that everyone has INALIENABLE RIGHTS, not just American citizens or residents of Phoenix, Arizona. When the "Teabaggers" get their way, they'll start complaining that they now have to pay $5.99 fr a head of lettuce. And again, they'll find someone else to assign the blame to."

    April 29, 2010 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Flabbergasted

    Neither having a home in Mexico nor living in a hispanic community makes someone accepting of Hispanics. They, like the rest of the Teabaggers, are probably bigots. Teddy Roosevelt enjoyed a long trip to Africa; he still spoke of African-Americans as inferior to whites. Many racists come from the south, an area with a high level of African-Americans. Proximity to a minority group does not equal tolerance.

    April 29, 2010 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jae'

    I recently have been affected by this reality. I enrolled in a Cornerstone class this semester and our topic was on Immigration. I have never been against anyone coming to a better place to have better opportunities. Is America really better, is the real question? We did a lot of service work about immigration that helped us expand our knowledge and possibly make the students on our campus more aware. In short my main topic to my presentation was "this land is your land, this land is my land. From sea to shinning sea." I didn't see anything in those words written words so long ago, that designated this land for only Americans. Everyone who is opposed to Immigration, need to do a little growing 9 times out of 10 you aren't all American yourself. I am sure that most of us have a little this and that, due to all the exotic, foreign friends that have been coming across these waters for decades now.
    With Love To All, Jae'

    April 29, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
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