June 22nd, 2010
09:59 AM ET

Excerpts from Rolling Stone article on Gen. McChrystal

Excerpts from a Rolling Stone magazine profile on Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, set to appear Friday:

- "Even though he had voted for (President Barack) Obama, McChrystal and his new commander-in-chief failed from the outset to connect. The general first encountered Obama a week after he took office, when the president met with a dozen senior military officials in a room at the Pentagon known as the Tank. According to sources familiar with the meeting, McChrystal thought Obama looked "uncomfortable and intimidated" by the roomful of military brass. Their first one-on-one meeting took place in the Oval Office four months later, after McChrystal got the Afghanistan job, and it didn't go much better. 'It was a 10-minute photo-op,' says an adviser to McChrystal. 'Obama clearly didn't know anything about him, who he was. Here's the guy who's going to run his f-ing war, but he didn't seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty disappointed.'"

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- "Last fall, during a question-and-answer session following a speech he gave in London, McChrystal dismissed the counterterrorism strategy being advocated by Vice President Joe Biden as 'shortsighted,' saying it would lead to a state of 'Chaos-istan,' The remarks earned him a smackdown from the president himself, who summoned the general to a terse private meeting aboard Air Force One. The message to McChrystal seemed clear: Shut the f- up, and keep a lower profile. Now, flipping through printout cards of his speech in Paris, McChrystal wonders aloud what Biden question he might get today, and how he should respond. 'I never know what's going to pop out until I'm up there, that's the problem,' he says.

Then, unable to help themselves, he and his staff imagine the general dismissing the vice president with a good one-liner. 'Are you asking about Vice President Biden?' McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?' 'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say "Bite Me?"'

- "In private, Team McChrystal likes to talk s- about many of Obama's top people on the diplomatic side. One aide calls Jim Jones, a retired four-star general and veteran of the Cold War, a 'clown' who remains 'stuck in 1985.' Politicians like (John) McCain and (John) Kerry, says another aide, 'turn up, have a meeting with (Afghan president Hamid) Karzai, criticize him at the airport press conference, then get back for the Sunday talk shows. Frankly, it's not very helpful.' Only (Secretary of State) Hillary Clinton receives good reviews from McChrystal's inner circle. 'Hillary had Stan's back during the strategic review,' says an adviser. 'She said, "If Stan wants it, give him what he needs.'"

- "McChrystal reserves special skepticism for (Richard) Holbrooke, the official in charge of reintegrating the Taliban. 'The Boss says he's like a wounded animal,' says a member of the general's team. 'Holbrooke keeps hearing rumors that he's going to get fired, so that makes him dangerous. He's a brilliant guy, but he just comes in, pulls on a lever, whatever he can grasp onto. But this is COIN (counterinsurgency), and you can't just have someone yanking on s-.'"

- "By far the most crucial - and strained - relationship is between McChrystal and (Karl) Eikenberry, the U.S. ambassador. According to those close to the two men, Eikenberry - a retired three-star general who served in Afghanistan in 2002 and 2005 - can't stand that his former subordinate is now calling the shots. He's also furious that McChrystal, backed by NATO's allies, refused to put Eikenberry in the pivotal role of viceroy in Afghanistan, which would have made him the diplomatic equivalent of the general.

"... The relationship was further strained in January, when a classified cable that Eikenberry wrote was leaked to The New York Times. The cable was as scathing as it was prescient. The ambassador offered a brutal critique of McChrystal's strategy, dismissed President Hamid Karzai as 'not an adequate strategic partner,' and cast doubt on whether the counterinsurgency plan would be 'sufficient' to deal with al Qaeda. ... McChrystal and his team were blindsided by the cable. 'I like Karl, I've known him for years, but they'd never said anything like that to us before,' says McChrystal, who adds that he felt 'betrayed' by the leak. 'Here's one that covers his flank for the history books. Now if we fail, they can say, 'I told you so.'"

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  1. Soylent

    Newsflash: Generals have huge egos. Film at 11.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
    • GW

      And OBAMA doesn't? Are you kidding me? Obama's ego could fill the SuperDome!!!!!!!!

      June 22, 2010 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
    • GW

      Every US President should be required to spend at minimum 4 years in reserves

      June 22, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • flycatcher

      Every US President is required to be a Natural Born American, where is the proof, why is Obama's birth record sequestered?

      June 22, 2010 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • brad

      i cant believe people give this anymore attetion then a scripted play or movie i guess when you played your hand and lost you just keep grasping straws i would suggest a good book the bible it tells the time were in these people never try peace or to love your neighbor why not

      June 22, 2010 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • CPTObvious

      Not the reserves. Every President should spend 4 years in a combat Squadron. That would give them the experience to make decisions that could possibly cost lives. Pres. Obama is not qualified to be Commander -and- chief. His resume lacks any information that would suggest so. He is a one term President, and I will put my word on that.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • CPTObvious

      Hey "Birth Record" you are the only one who brought up his birth record here. Get a hold of yourself. The things you have to go through when you smarter than a box of rocks.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Grafixer

      GW... Would they have to actually show up? Or just be signed on? Does wearing a flight jacket and standing with a "Mission Accomplished" banner count for time served? Give me a break.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Military Daughter and Wife

      Regardless of which side you are on, General McCrystal has broken trust by speaking disparagingly of the Commander-in-Chief. Do soldiers make comments like this in private? Absolutely but not to a reporter! If he is truly an honorable man he would retire and then make public his feelings about the government - as a private citizen! In addition - to all of you who would tout military service as a prerequisite to the presidency, let me give you a few examples - Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. Perhaps our two greatest war time presidents who never served in uniform!

      June 22, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Newsflash: General relieved for insubordination.
      He's STILL a soldier. He needs to STFU and NOT make disparaging comments about his commander in chief OR his vice president.
      Frankly, THAT is conduct unbecoming an officer. Perhaps the good General should re-acquaint himself with that statute!
      Got a problem with the orders of your Commander in Chief? Take it up with him. At your rank, you have an absolute requirement to do so and the right to do so.
      Can't handle the direction after that? Resign that position and let someone else juggle those 10000 flaming chain saws.
      If *I* had done even HALF of that while I was in uniform, I'd have lost my rank and been separated from service. Even in year 27 of my service! And for a good reason!

      June 22, 2010 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • pedro

      @GW – If Obama acted per vanity or ego he would spend ALL of his time responding to all of the attacks from the right instead of governing this country. He doesn't, he just does his job. Say all of the negative crap you want, he's done a masterful job of making sure BP is paying for BP's mess, and that the payouts will come on time. There are people from the Valdez spill who are still waiting to get paid. Also, you forget exactly how bad the economy was – he's guided us back from the brink on that. We have yet to see how good or bad the health care package is, but based on his track record I believe in that too. We went from the worst president and administration EVER to one of the best, and you right wing partisans still can't deal with the truth of that.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • PHAN


      June 23, 2010 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • contract63

      Every US President should be required to spend at minimum 4 years in reserves

      Why? so our politicians can be military robots as well.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • innertron

      It made my day to hear the General calling a wimpy president a wimpy president. BTW where's Hussein Obama's birth certificate?

      June 22, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • melissa

      Some of our most successful presidents didn't serve in the military. My gosh I wish people would do their homework. Dumb conversation, sorry.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norm Cooper

      To Military Daughter and Wife,

      Abraham Lincoln served as a captain in a company of the Illinois militia during the Black Hawk War, although he never saw combat.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • D Miller

      I believe the General is so fed up and obviously has gotten to the point where he had to make public his thoughts and opinions on Obama and the fact that he is not a leader and cannot lead the military let alone the nation. The General knew the consequences of his actions. Have you ever been so burned out on a leaders decisions you tell them exactly what you think no matter what? I have, and you should. Obama is no more qualified to lead a country than my dog is, let alone make decisions on military strategy. I am behind the Generals decision to speak out knowing he may be removed from his position. It just makes us all very aware of the poor leader we have here in our country. If the military were allowed to run a war without the politics, as was also done in Vietnam, they wouldn't last as long as they do, and our young men and women wouldn't die for nothing, or come home and not be cared for. Obama, Biden, and those who advise him, most of them, are just politicians and nothing else.

      June 22, 2010 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • XWngLady

      What a crock! If he had something to say to the President there are established procedures in which he could have done it (verbal/written/third party). He should have had the stones to tell the President his gripes himself or up through his chain of command. The Rolling Stones magazine is NOT the proper forum in which to redress grievances. Period. NO EXCUSE!....He tried to punk President Obama and VP Biden and instead got handed his hat (and his aide).

      June 23, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • GI JOE

      Everyone has to row in the same direction. It's ok to fight internally, but you can't have have someone constaintly stiring the pot with the public. If people hear that the guy incharge on the ground doesn't think the people running the war know what they are doing, it will kill troop moral and degrade effectiveness in theater. It has to look like everyone is pulling together. It is also clear that there is no way the stupid useless afgan people will ever be able to run thier own country.

      June 23, 2010 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • dc

      Your argument is so silly. The majority of votes of citizens of the United States elected the President to be Commander-in-Chief of the US Military. It is that simple.

      June 24, 2010 at 3:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Weedman

      In my day everyone that read "Rolling stones magazine" was smoking WEED... maybe that the real problem here? Either the General didn't smoke enough or maybe to much? Obviously this is just one more example to legalize pot!!!!

      Excuse me now... I been smoking so much me and my peeps gotta start scrapping the resin off my walls... we're sending it to the Troops!!!!

      June 22, 2010 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • pat

      to GW.
      Yes we see what a president who served in the reserves can do; start a war of aggression with Iraq. Me, I will take civilian leadership any day

      June 22, 2010 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • cory

      in fact, the intent of the office of President was that it would be a citizen and NOT a person with military background

      June 22, 2010 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • You serious?

      First off, this has nothing to do with anything except this: The General messed up. He made comments in public that he should have never made. My CO would have busted my butt right out of uniform if I had made a slip up like this. You don't diss your CO to the public, and you definitely don't diss the CIC in public. The General screwed up. Despite what some appear tho think, the general was behind some of these comments. Should his staff be bounced back to civilian life? Yes. Should he? This late in the game ... no. Ideally, the President does enough to assert his authority, and puts the best man for the job back out there in the field.

      For people complaining about Obama, and one who said we've been attacked four times since he's taken office. yeah, four FAILED attempts vs. the World Trade Center. I'd take those FAILED attempts any day vs the successful one.

      The man is busting his butt to do the best he can. And, well, the economy is getting stronger than it was, the 20 BILLION fund from BP has been made (as opposed to the republican version: sorry we were yelling at you for causing such a mess, we know you'll do your best), and he's not lowered himself to answering republican insults (which are on an hourly basis every day).

      Get over it. You guys lost the election.

      June 22, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • shad0

      "in fact, the intent of the office of President was that it would be a citizen and NOT a person with military background"

      if this is true, then why was our very first president also the commander in chief of our continental army?

      June 22, 2010 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • ED

      It's time for Stan to go. If he can't understand that the 'Rolling Stone' is not a place to express your opinions about your boss, then what other things does he not know? These are things that need to be taken up in private meetings, not in the public arena.

      June 22, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Get over it

      Birth record..............when will you stop thinking every comment made is based on racial discrimination???? It's getting old already.

      June 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pam Miller

      At the very bottom of this, the general is an employee and the president is his boss. One does not open one's big mouth negatively in public about one's boss – especially if both are connected with the military. McCrystal's arrogance of power – his supposition he had more power than his commander-in-chief was his smack down. No matter how big or important you think you are...you aren't. Every one in the U.S. has the right of free speech, but that right comes with consequences. Welcome to Helen Thomas' world, general.

      June 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • VF

      Put aside political ideology and spin.There are two issues here. First, a general speaking out of place. Not the proper thing to do in public, regardless who is president. Second, and a much more important issue, evidence that the military
      ( the ones actually fighting and dying in the war) are questioning the current administration ability/capacity to lead the effort.

      June 22, 2010 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • NCO

      Vicotry is not achieved by claims of success and winning... Victory is achieved when your enemy claims defeat.

      June 22, 2010 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Spendlove

      We need certain people in the right positions to get things done and General McChrystal is more than capable and willing for the task. I'm reminded of one of our greats General Patton after reading some of the remarks McChrystal made and who knows.. might be truth to some of it. Although it does seem like things are running a little slow paced with the war at the moment I do believe there's some method to the madness.

      June 22, 2010 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Navy Officer

      McChrystal needs to resign. He has broken a most basic tenet of the military chain of command. If he or his aides had made similar remarks about the Joint Chiefs or immediate commanding officer, they would have all received a disciplinary article and been demoted. The trust between a general and his Commander-in-Chief has been broken. Men and women in uniform deserve better. McChrystal should immediately resign or be demoted to the rank of Lt.

      June 22, 2010 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • JJWW

      Military Daughter and Wife,
      Lincoln did serve in the military briefly.

      June 22, 2010 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • ReadTheStory

      What did he actually say about President Obama? Read it and think about it. He talks crap about Biden, Jim Jones, Holbrooke, aids and others, but really only said he didn't hit it off with Obama? Don't fall for the spin. Pres. Obama is his commander in Chief, not Biden, not Jones, not Holbrooke, or any others. F- Those guys, they're not in his chain, he can talk trash about them all he wants, but he didn't about Obama, really.

      June 22, 2010 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • mike on maui

      So Hillary had his back. Wonder if she'll hold her line or fall in with the whiners in DC?

      June 22, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      This is not good news for America. When military brass are feuding publicly, we know something has gone wrong. The big shots need to stay even keel everywhere but behind closed doors. They know this but refuse to stick with tradition.

      June 22, 2010 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeffrey

      Stan is THE MAN when it comes to Afghanistan. I just got back from a year in Afghan (10 mos in Helmand Province and 2 mos in Kandahar). I'm heading back for 6 mos in Kabul. McChrystal has a plan. Obama has no plan and he is shortchanging his expert, four star General McChrystal. Duhhhh...... Obama needs to show some backbone for the professional who knows what he is doing.

      June 22, 2010 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandie O

      you have to have an ego to be a general of any degree. It takes someone hard core to make life and death decisions all day everyday. you are balancing a circus out ther in a war in another country with reports of wounded and dying kids landing on your desk every day. who cares if he has an ego thank GOD he does and has the balls to stand up to ANYONE about this crap. I sure wouldn't want a fat pansy softie asking the taliban oh will you please leave and stop destroying things, thanks for your support here's a fruit basket and thanks for your effort. these a people who hate true Americans will kill you and your descendents in front of you while eating an apple and don't you forget that. war isn't pretty that;s why not everyone can be a troop

      June 22, 2010 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • air force officer

      Chain-of-command so, so, important... King Goerge was our commander in 1770's. I'm glad some had the courage to break that chain.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Radical666

      Huge ego or not, Soldiers have to abide by the rules set forth in regulations and orders. Article 88 (Contempt Towards Officials) of the UCMJ states, and I quote "Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct." As a senior Officer, he should know this and he along with his aids should face the consequences of thier actions. I hope this will serve as a lesson to all those officers who continually violate the rules, because they think they are "above" them.

      June 23, 2010 at 2:38 am | Report abuse |
    • thomas aquinas rogers

      maybe they should just let blackwater or dynecore run the whole show.............maybe they should let china and russia foot the human and money bill to fight the islamic fundamentalists after all its thier fight too...then we could concentrate on debunking the racist nazi tea party fundamentalists in oklahoma.....bigots

      June 23, 2010 at 6:30 am | Report abuse |
    • RAY

      I find it so profoundlydisturbing that the general, who holds one of the highest and most responsible positions in all of the country gets chastized for only speakiing his mind and what he believes. He probably has the insight to the true nature of everyone involved including Obama. The main problem with this whole thing is the government did not get the chance to censor the article before it got out and that's probably more embarasing to them then the content. So much for the freedom of speech.....as long as you conform with your free speech, you can keep your job, life, dignity and on and on and on!!!!

      June 23, 2010 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Stick

      I know that Gen. McChrystal has been frustated by the rules of the war. You can`t put up a flare at night because some civilian may hit by the shell. If troops seeing taliban fighters going into a houuse they can not go into it unless they have a proper Afghanistan person to let they go in. You can not fight a war with one hand tied down. I hink that the morale of the troops is going down and that is bad.

      June 23, 2010 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
    • PC -(does not stand for politically Correct)

      McChrystal for President!!! – He is not the first person to understand that the USA is being run by two used car Dealers – all spit & polish, photo ops and no action – They have to stop blaming Bush for everything – time to grow up gentleman –
      If you look up in the dictionary the word Ego – The president's picture is there What happen to freedoom of speech – guess it does not apply here – I salute you general – We need more like you -people not afraid to tell the truth PS to the President for every photo you take 2 million gallons of oil have leaked – still not fixed –

      June 23, 2010 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Shaman13

      Let's see... Do I have more respect for a General that holds his tongue and respects the chain of command or for the General that has the nerve to question the group of idiots that Obama owed polical favors to? Sorry, but Obama is not qualified to lead this nation, nor are the puppets he has chosen to surround himself with. The man might be a very smooth talker, knowing exactly what to say in a given situation, but he hasn't got the experience the office of President demands. He'd do well to sit down, shut his mouth and listen to his General. The civilian leadership in place right now is a joke. Obama = a one term wonder..

      June 23, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • leigh

      1st off you don't get to be a general by being an idiot, he knew what he was doing. it got his opinion out there and brought attention to something he felt needed it.

      2nd if you've never served in the military you have no right to tell them what to do or how to do it. it's like getting an uneducated person to teach at a university-don't make sense.

      June 23, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • SES

      when we chose this guy to lead our country it was for all the wrong reasons, and this just goes to show it. we have a leader who doesn't even understand the history of the US. apologizes for us for doing what ! didn't honor our fallen on manorial day, how is the military suppose to have respect for this man, we could of owned the world many times over, but instead we Scarface our young men and women to help those oppressed...i have to stop now ./. GOD BLESS AMERICA

      June 23, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      What is up with all this left and right, your side and my side talk. I thought we were all Americans? If MCChrystal had a problem he should have talked to Obama. Maybe they should of had a boxing match in the Oval Office to settle it. But America is splitting apart. How long do we think it will be before our next civil war. At the rate its going I think soon. I hope God just sends his son to get me before this country destroys itself or gets so weak another country does it for us.

      June 23, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wilson

      God help the man that said Obama has brought us back from the brink! You are very blind and or just plain stupid! I will not even call Obama my president – to me he is just some guy that is killing America.

      June 23, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Debbie

      So the General is not a diplomat; problem is too many are.

      Yes the Commander in Chief is his boss, but since when are we not allowed to criticise how our boss is stepping on our feet and running our show? And yeah there's a chance you can lose your job when you speak up, but that has never once stopped me from speaking my mind when the subject is important to me.

      He said what he meant, meant what he said, and THEN said, "yeah that's right I said that" GOOD FOR HIM.

      I'm personally sick of playing MY boss' politics, all of which impede my productivity, ...and if Rolling Stone gave a damn about that I'd tell them all about it.

      June 23, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  2. musesofamom

    This is not an oil spill this can be stopped, and his words and the words of his aides should be enough to get this guy canned. When you talk about your boss in print like this you should expect to be looking for another job, and if they let him keep this one than they are what his aides called them "wimps in the White House."

    June 22, 2010 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
    • flycatcher

      Yeah that's right fire his a** and put bobble head yes man Eikenberry, the U.S. ambassador in charge, let's really screw up in Afghanistan. Grow up and tae a lesson from history it takes tough men to do a tough job. Tough hard men who have been given command to do a job say whatever they want and most of the time get 'er done, unless that is they are micro managed by clueless pinheads and girly sensitivities and outright told how to do the job they were given to get done. How Washington typical – Do the job but don't hurt anyone's feelings. It is no wonder America is becoming a third world country.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • brad

      just remember he who denies the bible denies the boss he that is not willing to work for god will be hungry and he that is esteemed in the eyes of men is an abomination in the eyes of god so one is master jesus christ those who try to rule over you will be your servants now that makes sense

      June 22, 2010 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • pedro

      McC is gone, but Eikenberry's not the one that's going to take over.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • You serious?

      Way to post something relevant to the topic at hand, Brad.

      June 22, 2010 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • ex military

      if the aide(s) runs thier mouth then they should be held accountable but if the general did not say it to the press then he should not be tormented over it.. By the way there was a person talking about how tough BO is being on BP for the mess in the gulf that will affect a fFEW HUNDRED THOUSAND people now he needs to get tough on the banks that harmed MILLIONS of people witht the financial mess they caused why does he just let them off the hokk with a TARP money and moeny on loan at histoorically low intrest rates so they can build themselves back up now time to help the
      that were affected by it.I forgot WIMPS IN THE WHITE HOUSE

      June 22, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandie O

      this is not your typical cubical watercooler office pansy job where the big office person has an insecure personality. this is war you are dealing with war. people in war can read weakness like the new york times and they have the right to be honest about it . you are right though there is something wrong obama got his pride hurt cause he has no idea what to do in a military sense, and he got called on it. maybe there is more that the obama administration is tryng to cover up or just dont kno what the heck they are doing.

      June 22, 2010 at 10:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • College Student

      First of all, musesofamom, how do you get off saying that "this is not an oil spill this can be stopped"? Well oil spilled, it's been 65 days, and it hasn't stopped.. In fact 2 more people have lost their lives over the incident that took Obama at least 30 days to address, all the while oil is continuously gushing. You obviously don't live in the South because you don't see what has happened to the beaches, our homes, and the jobs of many residents.
      However, I do agree that the general deserved to get canned. If you talk about your boss in front of a reporter and your press guy is too dumb to make sure it is stricken from the record, it WILL get printed. He let what may have been just talking with his buddies about his opinions get printed in the freakin Rolling Stones! He shouldn't have even opened his mouth about it in the first place, but especially not in front of a reporter..
      I just think we need a change of command in both positions. I can't wait to vote in 2012!!

      June 23, 2010 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Ben

    The future:

    He retires, the repubs latch onto him and try to get him to run in 2012 against Obama.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Nautius

      Great idea! At least the guy has stood by and fought for this country rather than tearing it apart from the inside. We can forgive him of his past voting record... nobody's perfect.

      June 22, 2010 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • GW

      Whoever runs against this President will win in landslide. Obama is a one termer! He WILL NOT get my vote this time!!! I was fooled once! Fooled twice then you're just plain stupid!!!!!!!!

      June 22, 2010 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • KP

      Works for me! I'm sure you aren't the first to think that, but this is the first I've heard the idea. At least he'll have a clue of what is going on with the war. We need someone who isn't so quick to judgement and has the backbone to do what is right, not worry about their feelings getting hurt. Not sure this is the right guy (or gal) either, but can't get much worse than what we have now.

      June 22, 2010 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
    • nostradamus

      So what advise you get for Palin, pack it up and comeback to cold Alaska to take care of her especial baby? Sound great for me.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • coloradovet

      Great, and then Generals can speak out against McChrystal!!

      June 22, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Nautius

    Patton had a big mouth, but damned if he didn't get the job done. This is the media and a thin-skinned president making too much of nothing.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Jimsto

      I completely agree, almost all generals in WWII and even WWI were so egotistical they routinely ignored the chain of command when it came to public news policies. I say there is almost zero correlation between not calling your boss a wuss in the military and being a good soldier.

      June 22, 2010 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
    • TO

      Stanley is not very adept at winning wars...

      From the source...

      June 22, 2010 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • btsidi

      Patton, while having a large ?:) ego, never criticized Roosevelt or Churchill, but did make comments about other heads of state, some congressmen, government officials and other military officers. Even in the midst of WWII we were a country with civilian oversight of the military and functions. In reading the biographies even Eisenhower became frustrated with politicians, but kept his mouth shut (until he was president).

      June 22, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • CTYank

      Nonsense. The general and his staff have apparently created their own ghetto, to defend against people they should be working for/with. As a general officer, he should know very well how to avoid that and control his mouth.
      "Thin-skinned" how? The general serves at his pleasure. Check out McArthur vs Truman.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • PopeJohnII

      Patton was also enough of a leader to know where the line was–and he knew how to learn from his mistakes! If you have read any of the Patton biographies you will know there is no way these words would have come from him–even after the slapping incident. And he would not have tolerated this insubordination from his staff. Patton understood the need for civilian control in a democracy.

      This is a big deal, a very big deal. What's more, if there is no one capable of replacing McCrystal, if he really is "too big to fail", what does that say about the state of our military readiness?

      June 22, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • MattM

      This situation is different. Conflict between the military and the executive is normal and even healthy in a system that has seperation of authority. Truman and McCarthy were at each others throats in private when Truman wouldn't agree to use the atomic bomb as a first strike option. Both men had very nasty things to say about each other but they at least kept it private until after their memoirs were published.

      Here we have an acting general in a war which has been detiriorating despite a significant deployment of higher numbers of troops (maybe not as many as he wants but Bushes legacy of two wars along with countries with long standing grevances like Iran and N Korea have spread things a little thin).

      He's just another rat jumping off of a sinking ship. Afganistan is likely unwinnable as the country has never truly known a just peace and all they have known since the late 1960's is civil war. The price for peace in Afganistan is far higher then what the American, English, Canadian and other NATO member nations are willing to pay.

      June 22, 2010 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  5. mike

    This guy is the run away general and rolling stone mag is the run away magazine. No longer dabbles in music

    June 22, 2010 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
  6. RATL

    Whats wrong with speaking the truth. If Obama can't cut it he can't cut it. Reality is reality.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Veteran officer

      All these comments about the president and what the General said show that few have actually read the interview, but project their anger through the assumed strong criticism and "truth to power" from the insubordinate officer. He did not criticize the President. He did not say anything of value, he just mocked, and showed contempt for the civilian leadership of the country. In times of war, this is reason for court martial.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • UCMJ

      UCMJ, Article 88.


      June 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • rhonda

      the reality of it RATL is the general got out of his lane............... he was insubordiate to his Commander, the President of the United States........................ he had a brain fart and forgot who butters his bread............... he was reminded today and he's out the door. It's not about President Obama, nor would it have been about previous Presidents..... it was about the General disrespecting his Commander............ it rolls down hill, not upward

      June 23, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  7. GW

    It is now VERY apparent that Obama is out of his league. Resing, Mr. Obama, and let's get the real leaders making important decisions......and I DON'T mean Biden, Pelosi or Reed!!!!!!!!!!

    June 22, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
    • irishman2010

      Just for the sake of discussion – who would be a real leader? McCain? Palin? The sad truth is there doesn't seem to be a better alternative.

      June 22, 2010 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
    • flycatcher

      Oh there are many good leaders but they don't want to deal with all the butt wads now in office like Reid and Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein well I could type names all day the point is get rid of the 535 all of them and start over with real leadership, never mind voting for people who are interested in filling their own pockets do the research and vote for people who have outstanding records of SERVICE to country, once installed keep tabs on them and keep them focused on their primary job, building America for AMERICAN CITIZENS. Once this is done the beacon of America will shine once again and prosperity, freedom, jobs, will return and real leaders will emerge from the garbage pile of Washington and come forth willing to work for our country once again.

      June 22, 2010 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Dr. N. Jersey

      Please, GW, explain how it is 'now very apparent'? I bet this article could have said "General plays patty-cake on Air Force One!" and you would say it was proof that President Obama was doing a bad job. I just love that you are all the same people that, 7 years ago, were saying that we should all be shot and/or arrested for criticizing the President in a time of war!!!

      June 22, 2010 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Darrell

      President Obama is the Commander in Chief calling one of his Generals on the carpet.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • billclinton3

      irishman, McCain would have done a great job, but he's so old..

      It would have been an epic fail if he died and sarah palin was the president

      June 22, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • nostradamus

      Oh yes, Rush Dumbo!!!!

      June 22, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • PopeJohnII

      And one of those "real leaders" would be . . . GW?

      June 22, 2010 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sonia

      GW you are a moron. Obama will be in office and you will be bowing down to him as your president for another 4 years. Start practicing.

      June 23, 2010 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
    • whatever

      flycatcher, you are an a$$. Your dreamy whining about how great America will be once we get a macho dictator to protect the interests of the few is pathetic–we're still digging out from the Bush fiasco & you can't wait for another helping. I'll take Boxer & Feinstein any day–at least they have a PROVEN track record of looking out for ALL Americans, not just your white male team.

      June 23, 2010 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • OpenMind

      Do you people who criticize Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, etc. actually follow what's going on or do you just believe everything that Fox News tells you? The GOP is the SICKENING party. They will do anything and everything they can do to get their people elected...including blocking every piece of legislation they Democrats put forth. That's not government...it's 24/7 politics! All Obama is doing is trying to clean up the MESS that GW got us into!!

      June 30, 2010 at 8:38 am | Report abuse |
  8. StanFan

    Sure glad to know Stan doesn't view quisling as a virtue.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
    • KG

      To GW.. are you a Republican? Sound like it. Sound like Fox channel talking point. Study your history, under the Bush Adm (father & son)...the stuff they did were appalling and criminal. Stop blaming everything on Obama. McCrystal should be reprehended but not fired – chain of command should be preserved. And no, I'm a Independent.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  9. lizevem

    Obama can't take criticism, of course he was intimidated by the general cause he is a wimp!.. I like this general!

    June 22, 2010 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Ana

      I'd love to see who is intimated at the meeting on Wednesday. He messed with someone who has way more power than he has – period. I'm sure he'll walk in there with his tail between his legs.

      June 22, 2010 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandy 4rm Texas

      wow, i think u and the rest of these nazi's are wimps. have u ever ran for president and became one...didnt think. u and the rest of these fools are just a typical prejudice people, get a life, get over it, and get GOD! ur a waste of human life

      June 22, 2010 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Bman

    If one reads between the lines, it is clear that this general does not believe his mission is achievable. That the counter insurgency will win, and we will end up pulling out of there beaten.

    We could save ourselves a lot of effort.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
    • let's worry about the real problem

      Yes, that's of greater concern than whether or not McChrystal dissed Obama. Our troops are dying for predictable failure, just like in Viet Nam. It's criminal. Fight to win or don't fight at all. We should be much more concerned about the fact that the military is frustrated with the leadership of their Commander than bruised egos or protocol. Ominous, indeed.

      June 23, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  11. ItsOver

    What a d!#k. How on earth does he think THIS will help the war?

    June 22, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
  12. GW

    Obama needs to just GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    June 22, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Mr Independent

      But he's not going to just go so get used to it. He's the US President and if you don't like it you can just GOOOOOOOOO

      June 22, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandy 4rm Texas

      i think u should go to.......to HELL! you all are just mad, cuz an african american is ur daddy. who's ur daddi now.....lmao. dont get mad, jus do us all a favor and leave the country like the rest who always wanna be ran by white power....wa, wa, wa! cry me a river already!

      June 22, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
  13. here's to crime

    Stupid stupid stupid. Rolling Stone? totally unprofessional. But look at his opinion of these people. It speaks volumes about the administration.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Kathryn Morgan

      Whatever these people's opinion of administration is, they do not represent the whole United States. O'Bama will serve more than one term if he wants to do so. I don't care how many people get on this site or others and criticize the president and his administration, face it, you don't speak for the whole country. Now from the excerpts I read, the general didn't actually criticize the president but one of his staff members commented that the president didn't "seem" to know much about the general and it bothered the general. Well, so what. How was the president supposed to greet the general in this first meeting, with a hug and a kiss? More importantly, it just seems like a lot of office talk that was made available to a magazine and the general has to take the heat for it. I think the real culprit is the idiot that provided this information to Rolling Stone, why is he hiding behind telephone interviews?

      June 23, 2010 at 8:00 am | Report abuse |
  14. trace morgan

    Maybe Obama might listen to the person he has charged with winning this war. Obama has no military experience – not even national guard. He has no military planning knowledge. How refreshing to have a general who tells it like it is instead of touting the party line and kowtowing to political appointees.

    On the Gulf Coast, Obama told a local politician to stop talking to the press. Seems that is the strategy – hide the truth and follow the party agenda. If he replaces McCrystal, he's a fool. He should learn to work with him instead.

    The comments about some of the political appointees in Afghanistan and the region sound spot on to me.

    How frustrating it must be to try to win a war and have to fend off political agendas right and left as you go. Being second guessed at every step by politicians who have not been to war at all – or who fought wars that were quite different years ago could be frustrating for anyone.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
    • kay king

      I remember when Bill Clinton was said to be unfit as Commander in Chief because he lacked military experience. Obama lacks more than that in the problem of Afghanistan.

      "support your boss?" No. The General's task is to support his troops and get the job done – IF if can be done. You don't support inspid politicians when you have people's lives in your hands. Building up Obama is not the job of McCrystal – telling the truth is a refreshing change these days.

      Obama had great press from all sides when he was elected – but he continues to insist on great press as this country circles the drain economically and in the war and in the Gulf. We've seen here that his image is what is protected above all.

      June 22, 2010 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Mr Independent

      What the general did was idiotic and even he agrees with that (that's why he apologized). If you think that General Jim Jones has no military experience you are also a fool.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • PopeJohnII

      Actually, this is to Kay King.
      Remind me again: who was the president who stopped the Serbian terrorist in a war that lost 0 American lives and ended in total victory? And that is a victory that stands to this day. Are there still some problems–of course. But rampant terrorism and genocide was STOPPED. There is no other place in the world where we have gone against terrorist and won so desively. Like all good leaders, Clinton learned from his mistakes (in Somolia).

      June 22, 2010 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
  15. RRD

    It comes down to whether or not McChrystal is getting the job done. If he is making progress then he deserves to stay in the position, if he isn't making progress he must be replaced. The down side is we really don't know what is happening – I don't have any faith in the accuracy of published reports.

    June 22, 2010 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
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