July 19th, 2010
02:13 PM ET

U.S. sends carrier to South Korea

The aircraft carrier USS George Washington

The United States is sending the aircraft carrier USS George Washington to South Korea this week in a display of "the strength of our alliance and our constant readiness to defend the Republic of Korea," the ship's commander said Monday.

The visit comes after months of heightened tensions on the Korean peninsula after the sinking of a South Korean warship in a torpedo attack in March. A multinational inquiry found North Korea responsible for the attack on the corvette Cheonan, in which 46 South Korean sailors were killed. North Korea has denied any connection with the attack and said it is the victim of an international conspiracy.

Earlier this month, the United Nations formally denounced the sinking of the Cheonan, but did not specifically mention North Korea.

In anticipation of the U.S. announcement, Pyongyang at the weekend said the presence of the carrier would be a "reckless provocation," according to the state-run Korean Central News Agency. It said the U.S. and South Korea were trying to save face after suffering a "diplomatic defeat" in the United Nations.

Two U.S. destroyers will also join the George Washington for its call in the port of Busan. A third destroyer will visit Chinhae, U.S. Forces Korea said. The four-day port call begins Wednesday.

"The U.S. Navy maintains a robust forward presence in the Asia-Pacific region and the people of the Republic of Korea are our good friends and allies," George Washington commanding officer Capt. David Lausman said in a statement Monday.

The 97,000-ton George Washington, based in Yokosuka, Japan, is the only U.S. carrier whose home port is outside the United States.

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  1. Cyrus Howell

    Why not shake up the North Koreans a bit.
    What they really need to know is that the USA has 14 Trident nuclear submarines Prowling the Persian Gulf and the Tonkin Gulf.
    Zappity – Zappity – BOOM.

    July 19, 2010 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • mike


      July 19, 2010 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Howard

      As a Korean guy born and raised in the US this makes me so happy to show we can kick some teeth in against that psycho dictator. USS George do some justice that has been long needed!

      July 19, 2010 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • formersubvol

      Your ignorance on submarine matters is thorough, Obama did not install Tomahawks on Tridents, the conversion process was planned, and began execution, long before Obama entered the national stage. Grow up, speak in facts, rather than the propaganda that you spew.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Asian Man

      It is about time to wipe out N. Korean dictator Kim Ill so its people are no longer sufer under that clown face any longer.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      HUA oddy!!!

      July 19, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • bill

      in reference to the one comment about having the GW being with only two escort ships. Iam sure the GW is capable of standing on its own. Ive served on the Big E back in the day. all they would have to do is pull anchor go out turn around and launch an alpha strike on any threat end of conversation.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • kklinkz

      When were you in china?

      July 19, 2010 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      As an ex nuke and an ex submariner I am confident in my statement that you have no clue what your talking about!

      July 19, 2010 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • youralldumb

      everyone is an expert on here, but i can see all that is happening as i walk outside to the weather decks

      July 19, 2010 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • jay

      I'm sure there is a trident missile boomer off the coast of NK, but that would never be reported because stating where our subs are defeats their greatest asset, which is their stealth.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Me

      light them up... NK is a constant trouble maker...

      July 19, 2010 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • jomi0403

      To EM2(SS) – I think your argument is really strengthened by petty name calling. That's right out of debate 101. You could be the smartest person commenting on here with the most intelligent comments, but as soon as you resort to that it renders all of your points null. Epic fail!

      July 19, 2010 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Walt W

      It never has been US policy to discuss the deployment of submarines. The enemy knows our capability and it's the capability they have to fear. They would have no defense against a preemptive strike and we can hit thousands of targets at the same time and any defense posture they could put up would be useless. Let the enemy North Korea keep guessing. Another war with them won't be like 1950, we would use the blitzkreig tactics that destroyed the 4th largest army in the world in a matter of weeks no years like 1950. A carrier you can't hide but submarine is almost impossible to find. We never have had a single sub ever detected.

      July 19, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      funny that South Korea can't take care of themselves. they come crying to big brother to protect them

      July 20, 2010 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
    • right1#1

      WELL!! the truth is guna show. a fight has been a long time showing. its all about freedom! the choice! teach the rights and wrong. vote ,important! . your going down to china town. freedom freedom freedom, enjoy a beer.

      July 20, 2010 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
    • bobfrank

      Proxy wars anyone?

      July 20, 2010 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
    • MIKI

      from what we know of the north koreans, it seems unlikely they will be scared or intimidated by the appearance of an aircrqaft carrier. and in reality its hardly likely the usa will go to war with just an aircraft carrier. needs a lot more ships and troops etc.
      so this will be regarded as a play of folly on us part. north korea will do as it wishes, as it ahs been doing ofor 50 years with little rection on the us or south koreans part.

      July 20, 2010 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Ken in NC

      Cyrus what we really need to tell the North Koreans is that they don't know what they think they know.

      July 20, 2010 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Li

      I'm sure the USS MICHIGAN (SSBN-727) is hanging around somewhere nearby


      July 20, 2010 at 2:09 am | Report abuse |
    • right1#1

      iran you suck. n korea you suck. russia well you suck. we will be free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      July 20, 2010 at 2:59 am | Report abuse |
    • a

      i like the sound of that!

      July 20, 2010 at 3:01 am | Report abuse |
    • right1#1

      HA THATS FUNNY WE will we can we did dont lie, we wanna be free, they do to, freedom wins, hands down.

      July 20, 2010 at 3:04 am | Report abuse |
    • greekster

      Sweeeeeet! Another war!!!!

      July 20, 2010 at 3:46 am | Report abuse |
    • austinwpt

      wow they didn't call anyone a puppet......

      July 20, 2010 at 5:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Natch

      You know what Naval Aviators call Air Force pilots? SECOND to show up for the fight!!

      July 20, 2010 at 6:00 am | Report abuse |
    • kamal jeet singh

      those who want tok change this world must support the World Song

      July 20, 2010 at 6:35 am | Report abuse |
    • giz

      Oddy, as an honorably discharged NCO from the USAF, I find your comment disgraceful, or as my T.I. would have said, YAFUM(I know it's a Navy term, but he was ex-Navy).

      July 20, 2010 at 6:52 am | Report abuse |
    • dmz8

      U.S. has won all wars, cold ones and hot ones against commies. U.S. will win all wars against commies. God was with U.S. 50 years ago in Vietnam, except Vietnam is till commies in name only. God was with U.S. 60 years ago in Korea, except God decided to keep North Korea commies.

      July 20, 2010 at 7:23 am | Report abuse |
    • rob miller


      July 20, 2010 at 7:39 am | Report abuse |
    • MR.

      Just happen to have been out there when it sank and here now and don't worry. it's just to say that there would take far more of a sinking of a skorean ship. remember north korea actually still has one of THE USA's ships from back in the day. the capt and crew were held for 11months and the ship is still in north korea. so....... we missed out of going to the filipines cause of that sinking sh...

      July 20, 2010 at 7:42 am | Report abuse |
    • MR.

      there arE NO sailors in the surface force, atlantic, pacfleet etc... They are ALL SHIPMATES. there are no sails on those ships and they aren't BOATS.....!!!!

      July 20, 2010 at 7:45 am | Report abuse |

      Listen to me and the others that are actually out here. nope i am not going to tell you what we are "actually" doing, but hey, if you are american then you all have the right to dream of what you think you know.

      July 20, 2010 at 7:49 am | Report abuse |
    • repsycler

      Oh, great!!!! Another WAR the US can not afford!!!!!! You really think that violence is the only answer? That's what Genghis Khan and the Romans thought too. Both empires died. The civilians were starving to pay the soldiers and then finally the soldiers starved!!!!! This is REALLY too much WAR!!!!!!!!! We need to go home and shut our mouths.

      July 20, 2010 at 8:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Sprintcat

      thanks for telling them about the subs!! altough your numbers are wrong. SBU info. actually.

      July 20, 2010 at 8:36 am | Report abuse |
    • repsycler

      I have a GREAT idea!!! Let's send President Obama to North Korea to fight Kim Ill. That would stop a war quickly!!!!

      July 20, 2010 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
    • ladeda

      First, I'm sure there are at least two subs sitting off the coast if there is carrier there... Secondly, a straight out attack on North Korea could upset their big step brother from another mother China... But this would be a good distraction from the gulf... gotta hate politics..

      ET2 (SW/AW)

      August 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • CHN ARM

      This time USS George Washington will be under Vietman Sea, China will use D22N as first shoot but that's LOOK, we will see some NEW THING and don't be supprised. After that we will know China more.

      August 14, 2010 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • CHN ARM

      You don't belive China? I trust that USS George Washington will be under Vietnam Sea this time.

      August 14, 2010 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Steve

    This is how "IT" starts...

    July 19, 2010 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • CUE

      Really... I thought "IT" started when a sub sank a ship!!!! I just thought this was a follow up!

      July 19, 2010 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Smith in Oregon

      I thought IT started as a bunch of childhood friends realized they had to return to their hometown to battle a clown?
      I dont remember a boat or Asian person in the whole movie?

      Color me confused!

      July 19, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      IT Started in the 1950s...

      July 19, 2010 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • CantonJohn

      NO, there was a boat in IT. Remember Georgie was chasing it down the street when he met IT. That ended about as well as this is going to.

      July 19, 2010 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • jaynsc

      lol – SS GEORGIE LOOKOUT – man that was a creepy clown.

      July 20, 2010 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Elitesack

      It already started when that sub was sank. Its a slow, robust, surefire operation underway and the end result will be a retaliation of great preportions against north korea, it does however require the utmost in careful and quiet planning because unless we use nuclear weapons, no matter how much we throw at north korea they still have time to launch tens of thousands of artillery and rocket at the capital of south korea.

      July 20, 2010 at 6:10 am | Report abuse |
  3. russ

    Nothing like a big target. I sure hope it has more of an escort then what they're detailing. A couple destroyers in nearby ports doesn't sound very safe to me. Aircraft carriers make really tempting targets in an opening strike. I hope those destroyers are fully equipted with new mini-sub hunting technology. Mabe it's supported by a bunch of p3s, but i'd be a little nervous out there.
    Stay safe sailors

    July 19, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brede

      An Aircraft carrier doesn't go out buy itself, or just a couple of destroyers, there are almost always escorted by an entire carrier group which includes cruisers, destroyers, subs, and Aiges antiaircraft ships... Trust me, the flight tower of a carrier this day and age is one of the safest places you could be in a war theater! Much safer than the ground pounders in Afghanistan or Iraq bless there souls.!

      July 19, 2010 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carla

      The USS GEORGE WASHINGTON is a Nuclear powered carrier and the pride of the U.S. fleet, it is heavily equipped, my nephew is on this ship, the leader of N.Korea is waiting to be provoked, he is a maniac! I am very worried about my nephew and the rest of these soldiers who are truly in harms way!! God be with them!!

      July 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim in NC

      Just a reminder about a story CNN ran a week or so ago.

      Three US cruise-missile carrying subs simultaneously showed up in three different ports in around Southeast Asia. The report focused on China's raction, but did anyone really doubt who those subs were sent for...

      The George Washington may look alone, but never, EVER doubt that there will always be at least 1 sub traveling with it. Read up on what the Navy's hardware can do sometime http://www.Navy.mil .

      July 19, 2010 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cathom

      I have worked on thease ships for years and I can tell you there anything but sitting ducks in a fight, Big George can take care of her self any any one else that wants to mess with her

      July 19, 2010 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      Target??? They would never even get close to it.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      Yeah, the north Koreans will paddle their rowboats out to the USS GW and shoot it up with their rifles...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      July 19, 2010 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • DarthWoo

      Don't be so overconfident about the invincibility of carriers. Chinese subs have shadowed them undetected until they were well within torpedo range, and US carriers have on several occasions been "sunk" in war games against allied submarines. This is WITH their battlegroups. I don't think the Swedish are particularly known for their tremendous armed forces, but they have a submarine that has scored such a simulated victory. The trouble today is that most of our detection systems are geared toward enemy nuclear attack submarines, and it turns out that we have unexpected difficulty in detecting diesel submarines. Even if the submarine can't outright sink the carrier, one or two torpedoes can likely cause enough damage to disable its aircraft launch and recovery capabilities for some time.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Carriers and Destroyers are escorted by fast attack subs, cruisers, and various other supply and war ships. Tenders and weapons replenishment ships generally stay out of harms way though. Also do not forget carriers are also escorted by some of the best aircraft in the world.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • wow

      Okay, unless your in the navy, none of you really know what you're talking about. (I currently serve on a destroyer) Destroyers are Made to defend carriers against submarines, air, and surface targets. 2 destroyers would annihilate any sort of attack North Korea tried to muster up on the surface or air. As for their diesel submarines, destroyers could take those out as well, but its pretty much a guarantee that their is at least one of our subs with the strike group. Our highly advanced Nuclear Submarine would absolutely destroy anything they brought at us.

      July 19, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • coolnezz

      it's called an aircraft carrier, they have 80-90 jet fighters on board... what good are they if can't protect the ship from the air.

      July 20, 2010 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Elitesack

      Carla, i highly doubt its the carrier and your nephew you need to worry about, what will happen is a swift hyper war ahnialation of north korean military, but in their dying breath they will launch everything they have at the capital city of south korea, this is the blackmail we have been held at for many years.

      July 20, 2010 at 6:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Me

      I hope you know there are family members of Active Duty Members reading these posts

      July 20, 2010 at 7:01 am | Report abuse |
  4. Nik

    Why exactly do we care about the Korean peninsula? We forced our war there into stalemate, do we still want to win it that bad? Kim Jong Il is pretty much harmless, he just talks like he's not.

    July 19, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • CUE

      We forced our war there? Why don't you open a history book and get an education!

      July 19, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Johnq

      It was only a stalemate because 300,000 Chinese joined in, and we technically were not at war with them so we could not retaliate.

      July 19, 2010 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • meat eater

      Because we are still at war and bound by an international treaty to support the South. Aside form the numerous trade

      From a strategic point of view. The land is important for our sphere of influence. In the case we ever go to war with China or Russia, it's a means to have our troops on the ground faster.

      Dubious reasons... but still valid and important.

      July 19, 2010 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • meat eater

      Correction on my part JohnQ is correct!

      The Korean war was a UN Police Action and not technically a war. We were not at war with China but due to the complication an armestance was set in place.

      In due fairness the South Korean Armed Forces supported US operations in Vietnam, and Iraq.

      July 19, 2010 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Xcaret

      meat eater: in case you go to war with Russia and China? believe, you don´t have a chance even with troups on the ground..

      July 19, 2010 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      @meat eater
      Thanks for acknowledging SK's contributions in Vietnam. People here in the states don't realize that the ROK had sent the highest number of troops there besides the US, and they did a hell of a job there, i might add. The Vietcong and N. Viets were scared to death of them

      July 19, 2010 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tigresse

      We care because if you check your history correctly, no peace treaty was ever signed at the end of the Korean War. Technically, both N. and S. Korea are still at war after 57 years...that's why we should care. Also, living here as a foreigner in S. Korea for 4 years you get used to the political rhetoric – on both sides – but you're talking about the safety and lives of almost 80,000,000 people with the 2 Koreas. No one wants a war. Don't underestimate Kim Jong Il and how the western media portrays him. He's a shrewd man and one of his favorite tactics is to keep the West guessing on his next move. What he really wants is fuel and food aid, especially fuel aid. His land army has equipment that goes back to the early 70's and his aircraft and naval equipment are no match for the Americans and S. Koreans. That being said, it's a tense situation here but we all learn to live with it daily and try to get on with our lives.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • ALD

      North Korea isn't harmless. The sinking of the Cheonan should be evidence enough of that. And that's before you even begin to consider the nuclear extortion tactics that the North Koreans have been using for years, all to prop up a vile dictatorship.

      July 19, 2010 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      I agree Nick Kim Jong Ill is basically in war with himself. Nobody really gives a crap about him. He just craves attention. I really feel very bad about the people living in N. Korea. It's not their fault that their leader is a complete lunatic!

      July 20, 2010 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Elitesack

      of all the places that need freedom this one needs it the most

      July 20, 2010 at 6:14 am | Report abuse |
    • CP

      Well, beside being a dictatorship. The sinking of a S. Korean warship is not being harmless. They are sending missle tech out of the country and having a nuclear weapons program with such an unstable person in power he is just stupid enough to start a war.

      July 20, 2010 at 6:21 am | Report abuse |
    • SkyKing169

      Kim Jong Il is a lot of
      things, but not harmless.
      NK has been furtively
      manufacturing and selling
      missles and other weapons
      to anyone who wants to buy them,
      to attack the US or its allies.
      Go ahead, make my day.

      July 20, 2010 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
  5. JeremeFishel

    Who said a Democratic Congress beats around the bush? Extremism is not popular.

    July 19, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey D

      Jeremy is that you? Small world!

      July 20, 2010 at 3:03 am | Report abuse |
  6. Godfather

    WW III

    July 19, 2010 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Carla

    Really wondering how our country will afford ANOTHER WAR??? this country is literally starving to death as well, and we are spending billions in Iraq and Afghanastan, how can we afford to be at war in 3 countries?

    July 19, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Godfather

      and recently $7.5 billion to pakistan, can you imagine that?

      July 19, 2010 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      You should learn some basic economics and how government spending in military helps US get better economic wise.

      July 19, 2010 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Earlydawn

      Carla, if you think that this is either new, or will kick off a war, you're far too new to this topic to be commenting..

      July 19, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • helion

      Economics 101. The Dollar Standard!

      What is a dollar worth?
      A. 1 cheese burger.
      B. 2 Gum balls.
      C. As much as people are willing to trade for it, based on how many dollars are in circulation, and how much worth the dollar as a whole is given by the goods and services available in the U.S.

      If you answered C, congratulations, your correct! A dollar is nothing but an I.O.U. Before 1973, the United States government was Obligated to back up the U.S. dollar with Gold bullion. However, after the Bretton Woods agreement collapsed, the Gold standard was abondoned in favor of the Dollar Standard. It's a bit more complicated than that, but if you are really interested, do some research!
      The long and short of it is, the U.S. government and the Treasury department can in theory print as many dollars as they want. The more they print however, the less each individual dollar is worth. On a Federal level, taxes exist, not to provide the federal government with money, but to keep the dollar's worth approximately where the Treasury and government wants it.

      Educate yourselves People! Learn why the National Debt Clock is nothing but a political Scare Tactic! Learn the REAL reason the U.S. economy is in a bad way! Learn why Government spending is NOT a bad thing!

      July 19, 2010 at 8:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • gadflie

      helion, you fail Eco 101. Even though you correctly noted that we are off the gold standard, you are still stuck on the idea of a dollar as an IOU. Since it is it's own standard, what exactly does anyone owe you if you bear one? Not a thing.
      A dollar (or any other form of money, including gold) is NOTHING but a way to keep score for bartering. It enables us to get away from direct trades and into indirect trades. Nothing else. Pretending otherwise is just that, pretending.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • moose

      really, we have people starving to death? I guess the super markets full of food that take food stamp are really not there. Go to some other countries if you want to see people starving. Americans are not starving they are just spoiled.

      July 20, 2010 at 3:53 am | Report abuse |
  8. Carla


    July 19, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Timbathy

      yeah...but China does not want to get involved. no matter what.

      July 19, 2010 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • tim

      China is strongly allied, but i believe that china knows it's in their best interest to stay out of it. the UN doesn't like nkorea, and siding with nkorea in a war and then losing (which would more than likely happen) would send them back to the stone age economically and politically.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      We would make short work out of N. Korea. We would have complete air supremecy in less than 6 hours and then begin to dismantle their large army from the air (that may take a little longer). If China gets involved, it will simply take a little longer; but, in the end, every man, woman and child in N. Korea will know beyond any doubt that they have been beaten.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • robert

      @Matt, "We would make short work out of N. Korea." are you kidding me? You can't even beat a bunch of insurgence with cold war weapons and homemade bombs, who ride pickup trucks and minivans into battle. You think you are going to make short work of one of the largest standing armies in the world? No wonder the US is in the shape it is, the people underestimate their adversaries will overestimating their own abilities.

      July 19, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • gadflie

      Matt, disable an army using only air power? Yea, right. Study military history and see how well that concept has worked out so far.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • mitchell

      your an idiot. your comparing a conventional war with a non conventional attack.. we dont go into full on battles with insurgents they sneak around in there home neighborhoods and take pot shots at us and ambush us constantly. no military can win against an ideology like that. if the north koreans roled into battle against us similar to the battles of world war 2 or korea they would stand no chance there entire military is so out dated i can see the rust from my house in iowa. also they may have a large standing army but its pathetically trained and soldiers who are forced into battle as they would be never fight well. just look at the second gulf war. most of the Iraqis just fled before we got to them..also its been observed that the NK often doesn't even have enough rifles for all of there troops... im not saying a war would be good or anything close to that i'm just saying your an ignorant bafoon who knows nothing about what he's talking about and should think before he speaks.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chuck

      Are you kidding? N. Korea has been like a nagging bunyon on China's foot for to long now. All China does is send them aid and gets nothing in return. China wouldn't do anything but use words to defend N. Korea and even that is starting to end. China loves it's return on exports and many Chinese are living good now(not the majority) off of foreign trade. China would not jeopordize that in any way if anything escalated.

      July 19, 2010 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • SOF

      China wont risk losing the gazzillion dollars that flow into their country daily from the US ... we buy too much crap from them for them to shut us down, they would go broke....

      July 20, 2010 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Elitesack

      The best thing china could do for themselves is stay out of the entire thing. They risk collapse from an increasingly better looking position in the world scheme should they interfere with the US if it decides to do anything. Remember, the US is still way more powerful than china, militarily. its like comparing a piece of lunch meat to a porter house steak.

      July 20, 2010 at 6:18 am | Report abuse |
    • repsycler

      China got involved in Vietnam. That's why Ho Chi Min could supply all his soldiers in that war. The US just couldn't win and finally brought it's soldiers home. We will be facing China again in Korea. China goes to bat for all Communist countries. Doesn't our government ever learn from it's mistakes? I think the submarine thing is just another reason to show off our war skills. Big Brother will KILL you!!!!!!l

      July 20, 2010 at 8:39 am | Report abuse |
  9. Smith in Oregon

    Is this a write off of well over 1 Million South Korean's in Seoul, S.Korea? 20 Million troops in North Korea, their artillery alone would absolutely level Seoul and some idiots in a Pentagon think tank bunker is what, hoping Korea lights up?

    Is Secretary of State Hillary Clinton advising Pakistan on a likely military attack in Korea to try to offset an expected spread of the conflict thru Iran and many other country's across the Middle East? Clinton was reported to have dropped off yet another massive free American taxpayer pay-off to Pakistan on this trip, was she paying Pakistan to not get involved? That seems unlikely given their close relationship with the Taliban fighters. But Pakistan like Israel certainly wouldn't turn down hundreds of Billions of Free American taxpayer dollars when it is offered, even if they have no intention of actually doing what is expected of them if they accept that massive transfer of America's wealth.

    July 19, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Smith in Oregon

      Semolina pilchard, climbing up the Eiffel Tower.
      Elementary penguin singing Hari Krishna.
      Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allan Poe.
      I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
      I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.
      Goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob g'goo

      July 19, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |

      Your ignorance is appalling! The Seoul metropolitan area has almost 30,000,000 population. The North Korean population is around 23,000,000. How could they have an army of 20,000,000? Please reply!

      July 19, 2010 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • joe

      ekaddidleflopper you idiot....north korea forces pretty much all their citizens to serve...everyone is a soldier in that country; maybe a poor soldier, but a soldier nonetheless.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark C

      @joe, you're an imbecile. 20 million out of a 30 million population would require children and the elderly. Do the gene pool a huge favor and blow the dog sh1t that passes for your brains out now. The actual number of troops is a bit over a million. Saddam had more before the first Gulf War, and they were better equipped and trained (as poorly equipped and trained as they were). They were a paper army, and so is North Korea's.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark C

      *out of 23 million.

      I guess infants are "soldiers" in moron world, where you apparently spend a lot of time.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Winston

      Bush said Iraq will be done very soon. Yes, Hussen is long executed. But, we are still there fighting and dieing. Oh, Bush forgot the exit part. Start a war is easy. Exit is way more difficult.

      July 20, 2010 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
  10. natasha baranowska

    my brother is on this ship,be safe christian.x

    July 19, 2010 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nicks Mom

      My son is too...we will pray for them all....

      July 24, 2010 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
  11. hugejunk

    well, here we go. Be safe boys.

    July 19, 2010 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Joe

    Can you say Gulf of Tonkin ?

    July 19, 2010 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Gulf of Tonka
      Gulf of Tolken
      Golf of Tiger

      No, sorry, I can't say it.

      July 19, 2010 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vincent

      Heh, that's pretty funny, Dave.

      July 19, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • JIm

      Ok, "Gulf of Tonkin". What do I win?

      July 19, 2010 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • repsycler

      Yep, sounds like the same thing to me. Think we sent Israel to sink that South Korean ship like they did for the US in the Tonkin Gulf? All we need is a good excuse! Where were the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?

      July 20, 2010 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
  13. Random

    Nothing like exiting a losing war and entering a new one for the economy...

    July 19, 2010 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Boomhauer

    I really don't see how sending an aircraft carrier into Jong's face is a good idea. All your doing is holding a match within lighting distance of some seriously volatile fuel. Who benefits from this? No one.

    July 19, 2010 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fred

      What we should be doing is sending a bunch of those new stealth drones over there. Then things can "spontaneously" blow up in North Korea and we all be all like "What? What are you babbling on about now?"

      July 19, 2010 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark C

      No dummy, what you're doing is holding a loaded .357 magnum to his temple.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey

      Haha! Yeah and when they blame us we will pull the conspiracy card from the top of the deck where they left it! Great idea.

      July 19, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Gigu

    2012.. Everything gonna start slowly...

    July 19, 2010 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
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