An Alaska Army National Guard helicopter trying to rescue people on Knik Glacier tipped over Tuesday after an icy landing, a Guard spokesman said.
The three crew members of the UH-60 Black Hawk were not injured, said Maj. Guy Hayes, spokesman for the Guard. Winds reaching 70 miles per hour, rain and overcast skies made the mission difficult.
Crews must now reach the three crew members and nine others the helicopter was trying to rescue.
Boneheads, did they forget how to hover? You never set down on ice and maintain at least a 3 foot hover, hopefully higher in gusty weather and use the winch. Oh well, there went about 2.5 million of my tax dollars.
Probably cost you much less than a penny. People like you always cry about tax dollars when there are people to be rescued. It is such a tired and petty claim every time I read it. Can't wait until you have a loved one that needs rescue for some reason - bet you wouldn't be making the same moronic statement then.
I agree with Michael, I really hate whining like this; I used to do a lot of climbing, the rescue teams and climbing communities are very close and often have trained together; folks like you have no idea, you just whine from your armchairs.
Bonehead, huh. I guess you know exactly what their situation was.
As a climber myself, I think there's nothing wrong with wining... there's a better use of tax money than bailing out people who knowingly take risks. I mean, if I were to play russian roulette and shot myself in the head, I see no reason why people should have to pay taxes to save my life, even if it's just a penny a person. With everyone in the world complaining about taxes in general, I'd rather see taxes being used to pay off foreign debt, or feed the homeless, or build schools.
Pilot Error, it is always pilot error. In this case 70mph winds were way too much... He should have provided supplies and abandoned waiting for better weather. There were 9 in trouble, now there are 12.
I totally agree with db. Next time db needs rescue, we'll withhold the helicopter out of respect for his/her wishes.
Jen, I agree. Although I doubt the helicopter was attempting an approach during 70MPH winds. That's a LOT to ask of a helicopter.
More likely 70MPH gusts, which are worse than prolonged winds.
But, in heavy weather, a supply drop and winch extraction is possible. Discouraged, but possible.
It's just fortunate the bird didn't drop on the people it was there to help!
db sez: "Boneheads, did they forget how to hover? You never set down on ice and maintain at least a 3 foot hover,"
Yeah, in 70 mile per hour winds. Just maintain your 3-foot hover there, db. It's easy to keep that XBox controller hovering over your gigantic stomach on the couch there when it's blowing 70 outside, isn't it?
Really ...because you've paid 2.5 million?..sure
Dam, i thought this article was going to give us, the american public, some tips or tricks to making a successfull helicopter landing on a glacier. Things that all good americans can use, or remember for future use,... wow... i am so bummed out... maybe i can find some nulclear bomb tips....I'm gonna keep on searching...
Like db has ever flown a helicopter... you are the bone-head for being so disrespectful to the people risking thier lives for other!
Thank you to those who risk their lives to rescue people who, for one reason or another, find themselves in dire straights.
i like turtles
Cooked right i'm sure they are tasty
How can anyone not like turtles. They are cute.
With or without salmonella?
Moron is right.
I ran over one the other day and it just broke my heart
Do you think there are glacial turtles?
GOD! The pilots should have the cost of that helicopter taken out of all future wages. The stupidity of these fools is amazing. My tax dollars being wasted all because some high school drop out got to fly a multi-million dollar machine. Idiots...
You sir, are an idiot that obviously knows absolutely nothing about aviation!
Wow...you are the idiot! First of all, if you call an Army helicopter used not only in search and rescue operations, but also to serve and protect our country a 'waste of your tax dollars' then you obviously know nothing about this topic. And on top of that, you must be an Officer in order to be a pilot in the US Military (which means a 4 year degree btw), so you little jab about this being a high school dropout flying is beyond moot.
Don't fee the trolls.........
Hope they can all be rescued. But I think they need to stop flying up there in alaska... there is always a accident.
wow how sad it is that some people can only think about money when people's lives are at stake... Seriously, you need to get a clue and learn what IS important in this freaking world, and it is NOT money! Human lives are freaking priceless morons!
No they are not... 4 billion people on this planet and they are all priceless??? What about that meth head wandering the streets. What about that crack addicted mom who forgets where her children are? Sorry, but it just is not true.
4 billion?! Did we have a massive plague lately?
Last count I saw was around 6.7 billion.
Regarding monetary worth of lives, Jen I'd say you're worth about $1.98. As scrap.
BUT, governments and corporations DO place a monetary value on human lives. Hence the cost of medicine, cost of health care, cost of preventative medicine and even the cost of an airplane ticket (reflected cost that reflects the costs of mitigating ALL possible risks versus expenses possible acquired by not mitigating EVERYTHING). In short, no airline would pay a billion dollars per aircraft to prevent ALL POSSIBLE accidents, the ticket price for an hour flight would be $100000. So, estimates are made on a cost/benefit analysis.
From flying and crashing whirly birds in 70 MPH winds to tasty turtles, I can't wait to see the faces on the idiots, who are cry'in over a loss of a 2.5 miiion dollar Black Hawk. Wait till the economy colapses in the next few years. You think health care payments a going to be a burden?
JJ, you do not rock. But, you are a moron.
Kronk it up !!!
If you knew anything about the military...you have to be an officer to fly a helicopter and therefor you have to have been to college and gottin a degree of some sort. A high school drop out would not have a college degree idiot. I thank the women and men who go out there everyday and risk there lives for other people. Thank You!
Come on folks, I work with the USAF Rescue and I know they go above and beyond "So that others may live". A few weeks ago we had a memorial for the 4 airmen we lost while they were trying to save others that were injured on the battlefield. They were shot down, @Aiden - you have no clue what these men and women go through, get a clue – look up CSAR. I am just thankful they are all still alive!
@everyone responding to Aiden and db....y'all do realize that obvious troll is obvious, don't you? These two posts are from the same ppl....and it looks as though he was successful.
Actually a drop-out could become a Helo Pilot.. Make a High Score on the ASFAB Test and Make it thru Basic Training with a high grade in all training exercises and classes, Graduate top of your class would be best. Then excel in all your duties, then ask go to Iraq or Afghanistan and gain rank, (You gain Rank Quicker while in a Theater of War, plus the Combat Pay) Survive all that then hopefully get recommended for OCS. Then Keep requesting to be a Helo pilot and worry the hell outta them, Send a request as many times as you can, everytime you can, till they accept you. Or I think in the Army a regular enlistee can become a Helo Pilot, I may be wrong though