August 21st, 2010
08:38 AM ET

Is Assange the target of a U.S. smear campaign?

[Update 11:30 a.m.] Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange is "no longer wanted" and "is not suspected of rape," Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne said in a statement published by the Swedish prosecutor's website Saturday.

[Original post] Reports of criminal accusations against  WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange brought instant suspicion of a U.S. government-led smear campaign.

Assange, a citizen of Australia, has been accused in Sweden of rape and molestation, or harassment, the Swedish tabloid Expressen reported.

Read a rough Google translation of the Expressen report.

WikiLeaks recently published tens of thousands of U.S. documents related to the war in Afghanistan and has said it is preparing to publish another batch of 15,000 documents soon.

"We were warned to expect 'dirty tricks.' Now we have the first one," WikiLeaks' Twitter page said Saturday.

Blogger Alexander Higgins said the U.S. government "has truly grown into an Orwellian Big Brother regime."

According to the London-based tech blog Thinq, Assange "has become the focus of a smear campaign in what appears to be [an] effort to pile pressure on the whistle-blower ahead of the expected publication of thousands more classified US military documents. The documents are likely to lift the lid on more atrocities committed by forces in Afghanistan in the polluted name of freedom."

The publication OneIndia called the report "a suspicious development that seems to be a smear campaign against Assange."

Twitter user Deanzoz remarked, "Assange charged with rape. Pretty unusual approach from the CIA – they usually just shoot people in the head."

However, some think the accusations could be legitimate.

A commenter called Chips on the Somethingawful forum wrote: "If it's a smear, it's a superb smear given how simple and compelling it is and how creepy Julian Assange is."

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  1. RamsesII we really believe this.....can you say "set up"?

    August 21, 2010 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Let's just see where the evidence leads instead of asuming we knowbeforehand what the truth is. Why do people like you need Wikileaks? You already know the truth...

      August 21, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • hollywoodmeme for more...

      August 21, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • tcaudilllg

      What's clear, Mike, is that you cannot think straight.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas H.

      The CIA still has its mindset in the 1950s if they think anyone is buying this conveniently timed nonsense....except Mike, this is.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • ali

      yup. set-up.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Chad

      This is the new, bulletless way to assassinate troublemakers.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • aatami

      Mike – Are you so shallow and vapid that you have forgotten the Nixon dirty tricks? I guess you need a tree to fall on you, well I don't. Wake up.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      USA is trying to create a fake smear campain but it won't stick because it's wayy to obvious. Also Europe and Europeans are way too smarter than Americans to smell the obvious set up so they will not believe it.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ane Celine LervĂĄg

      I'm not saying that wikileaks foundators are better persons than the rest of us, but it's quite strange that both girls, independently, claim that their reason for not filing a report on the allegeded offender, is his official position. Something smells, and it doens't smell good... While I'm writing this post, Norwegian newspapers report that the allogations are false and have been dropped by the Swedish law inforecement. So...

      August 21, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Clayton

      @Jim "Europe and Europeans are way too smarter than Americans"

      Sounds like you may want to invest into a college edumakayshun before you write anything on the internetz.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      CNN is quoting a poster from a GBS thread on somethingawful, i think news in the US just hit rock bottom.

      August 21, 2010 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • maria lopez

      when will the people realize that for past 30-40 yrs, our wars have been about profit; profit for the politicians, for their friends/family who get gov. contracts like haliburton, and for cos. who have ANY bus. at all that can be made to SEEM as if its in ANY way linked to the war. bush also wanted to prove to world he could do one thg right? sorry. the public wouldn't believe how much of our tax dollars are going into hands or crooks, U.S. and mid east, many who are in cohoots with eachother.

      August 21, 2010 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lars Sweden

      Hmmm USA just digging it´s hole deeper and deeper,to finally find out being viewed as the world of fools

      August 21, 2010 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |

      Maybe he was set up but to put our troops in harms way he should be shot for treason. To report facts yto the press is one thing but to get people killed it's another. What purpose did it serve ??

      August 21, 2010 at 7:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith1952

      Clayton – be nice, did you understand what he was trying to communicate? If you did you are an a$$, if you didn't maybe you need the education.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • wholetruth

      Chicago style character assassination. Obama has staked all his marbles on this 'tar baby' of a war in Afghanistan and anything that casts a negative light on this conflict during his tenure (especially before November elections) is unacceptable. Someone in the Administration is making the call on this, Left wing media has it's talking points and will probably try and blame the whole thing on Bush.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • NSturtevant

      All of you who automatically blame the USA for something for which there is no evidence, against a guy who hates the US, should consider living somewhere else. We, the US are the greatest force for good that has ever existed, and you don't get that. Please, go somewhere else, and have a good life.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • IsotopeSoap

      @Joe, yup. Goons might be amusing (to themselves, mostly), but the vast majority of what one reads in GBS is just that, General Bulls***. That CNN actually looked for such a quote is an example of from how low they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for their CIA-sponsored news items. THIS IS A SMEAR JOB, WITHOUT WARRANT.

      August 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Martin

    Of course Assange is a target of manufactured charges. The US government is furious over his exposure of American war crimes and will do anything they can to shut him down. There is no doubt in my mind that the Swedish charges are nothing but fraud by the Swedish prosecutor. The US government is applying intense pressure to put Wikileaks out of business.

    August 21, 2010 at 8:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Hugo

      Martin, I'm lost. Mr. Assange is a very smart man. Smart men understand that they could get "hit by a bus" at any moment. Thus, I'd be dumbfounded if WikiLeaks doesn't have a succession plan already in place. How does the CIA making up charges actually help the CIA? If anything, wouldn't a martyr make WikiLeaks all that much stronger? (Now, were you to argue that perhaps a rogue division set him up or that the CIA is run by idiots, you'd add a lot of validity to your argument. But then I'd like you to defend that point. Not saying I wouldn't believe your point. I just want to see you make a defense.)

      August 21, 2010 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Sam Lowry

      Hugo wrote to Martin: "How does the CIA making up charges actually help the CIA?"

      The purpose of the accusations is not to remove Assange from his role as head of WikiLeaks. The purpose of the accusations is to provide a news headline to displace actual news about the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan. And clearly they have succeeded.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • tcaudilllg

      Hugo you're reading too much into it. A good person would make that argument, sure. An evil person would not because it would be too much effort, particularly a right wing evil person. And you can bet there are no left wingers involved here.

      This is a set-up, pure and simple.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
    • aatami

      Hugo – Here's a defense that you can believe in and it comes in one word. Nixon. Remember? So if you are saying that you couldn't possibly believe that this might be a set up to discredit and smear Assange, then I suggest you do a little reading.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
    • War crimes? Hah

      The problem wasn't war crimes. If they wanted to expose war crimes they could have singled them out and released them instead of releasing all that information about the war effort.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Lee Kee

    rough google translation? omg you're CNN for god sake, don't y'all have someone where who can speak swedish?

    August 21, 2010 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      Don't worry, half their 'sources' are random bloggers and twitter users. I think this 'article' is just a smear campain against the US government.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
    • mmkk007

      @Matt: Or unsmear campaign - US is already smeared by wikileaks.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas H.

      Matt...A smear campaign against the U.S. government? Wouldn't that be incredibly pointless? The bureaucracy of the U.S. government is practically self-smearing. It would be like scattering water over the oceans to make sure they stayed wet.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Errol

      This is hardly an impartial story. On top of the translation issue, this story refers to Expressen – one of Sweden's two biggest newspapers – as a "tabloid". That's akin to calling CNN an "international gossip channel".

      August 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • To be fair...

      CNN basically is a low-brow tabloid. I mean, have you looked at the website lately?

      August 22, 2010 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
  4. Pablo Ricardo

    Gee, d'ya think?

    August 21, 2010 at 9:01 am | Report abuse |
  5. Carl

    Even if some or all the charges against Assange are true, doesn't make the information released by WikiLeaks invalid.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Hugo

      Very good point.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
  6. Avi Shlomo

    These charges are brought you by the same goverment that manufacured excuses to invade iraq.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      A Swedish prosecutor manufacured excuses to invade iraq?

      August 21, 2010 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Josh Frith

      The charges were brought by Sweden...not the US.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Dustin h

      Read the UN resolutions that ended the Persian Gulf War with respect to weapons inspectors. Hussein signed off on it as a surrender agreement. One stipulation was that he must allow UN weapon inspectors in for 10 years. The only reason the US needed to resume the campaign was the ousting of weapons inspectors. Not WMDs.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Have you ever been to Iraq? Perhaps Iraq is just a story made up by the CIA...

      August 21, 2010 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Dustin h

      Now we're getting somewhere.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      Dustin: Persian Gulf war ended Feb 28, 1991. Second Gulf War started March 20, 2003. Count the years?

      August 21, 2010 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas H.

      @Dustin...Saddam Hussein never signed any surrender agreement. He withdrew his forces from Kuwait and George Bush declared victory....leaving Saddam in power. A cease-fire was agreed to by both sides with the stipulation that a no-fly zone be implemented over the Kurdish areas after Saddam began slaughtering the Kurds for helping the coalition. The goal of Dessert Storm was to liberate Kuwait, not to overthrow Iraq. Stop rewriting history.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • digginestdogg

      We all know the US is behind the accusations and probably pressured sweden–but the Swedes were cautious and the plan fell apart in the light of day. Why do we just know the US is behind it? 1. The US government has a history of lies and distortion: WMD, progress in Afghanistan, body counts in Vietnam, Saddam and Al Qaeda, putting the Shah of Iran and Savak in place of a democratic leader, the orchestrated grass root election protests in Iran, the lies about Pat Tillman's death–the list goes on and on. 2. The US government has very good reason to try and intimidate Wikileaks given there are many more revelations pending. The sad thing is that all their lies and dirty tricks wouldn't be necessary nor would Wikileaks releases be necessary if we never got into that pointless un-winalbe war in the first place. then we could focus on real threats like a Islamist nuclear Pakistan, China's global rise, and North Korea instead of frittering aways our treasury on the mountains of Afghanistan and the deserts of Iraq.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Avi Shlomo

      The foold who were commenting on my post should have read the news that followed that the swedish proscuotr dropped the charges. I was insinuating that the US behind it and as we all know some how pressured the swedes. I know where is Iraq and I know all the lies that resulted in the biggest atrocity this centiry. It brought all mayhem to everyone and including innocent iraqis. Those who were still living in the fantasy that Saddam had WMD should look into my country Israel for posseing them. Apparntly you did not hear of the festivities of candles over Gaza last year and further more should read the interview with Tariq Aziz that Appeared in the Guardian few weeks ago.
      They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up."

      August 21, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Patrick

    It's pretty damn sad when our government can't even properly run a smear campaign. Didn't anyone ever tell this idiots that revenge is a dish to be served cold? These malicious charges just serve to prove what people have been saying about the United States government; they're trying to police the world. At this point, even if he's convicted nobody will ever believe he's guilty.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:06 am | Report abuse |
  8. Jan Tervonen

    According to Mr. Assange is still in Sweden as is on his way to the police.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:06 am | Report abuse |
  9. Jan Tervonen

    August 21, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Awesome

      Not everyone can read Swedish. I know; we're so ignorant.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ane Celine LervĂĄg

      In English: Assange says the allogations are false, and he is prepared to give him self in to the Swedish authorities to prove his innosence. (Short version)

      August 21, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • A

      Not everyone can google translate, forgive us ignorant.

      August 22, 2010 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  10. TomColt

    Okay, I know he's an absolute saint, but let's hear the evidence.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Tari Torch Sweeney - Shaker Heights, OH

      You won't ever hear the "evidence" least the true evidence. Anyone can be paid to manufacture evidence. Does anyone see where this is going? You don't have to believe in the situation, or like Assange....but you DO have to look at the "coincidence" and timing of this whole thing. Come on. Get serious. The guy's a the creek without a paddle. Hope he has a good hiding place....forever.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
  11. Dustin h

    Put our soldiers and our allies in harms way and we'll put a bullet in your head. USA!

    August 21, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Agrajag

      Why is Bush still alive?

      August 21, 2010 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Dustin h

      One might lack the intellect to differentiate between a Commander in Chief and an enemy of the state.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Paul

      Your government is doing that for you!!! Wake up people!

      August 21, 2010 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Dustin h

      I'd agree that they may be one in the same now but in this case I'd have to say that Julian Assange is an enemy of the state.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Lance

      You are what's wrong with the US.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Dustin h

      You are what's wrong with the rest of the world. "come and take it!"

      August 21, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • steve

      What a stupid comment. This childish GI Joe patriotism doesn't change the facts, pal. Neither do the inevitable smear campaign. As to the "enemy of the state" charge against Assange, in my opinion he's a hero for putting his life on the line to let the world know of the atrocities committed by US troops as they mindlessly carry out the Republican agenda of war, murder & theft.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Sam Lowry

      Sorry Steve, Afghanistan is Obama's war just as much as it was Bush's.

      "Presidents don't have power; their job is to draw attention away from it." - Ford Prefect

      August 21, 2010 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Andrew

      Dustin, the real enemies of the state are morons like you, whose obtuse thinking and easily manipulated peanut sized brains continue to support manufactured wars, republican lies, and right wing clowns on Radio an TV whose only intent is to make tons of money by winding you up and spewing hatred and intolerance towards any and all groups who don't fit their vision of the "Real America." You and the likes of you are the ones who put our soldiers in harms way, you and your right wing-nuts are the ones who are tearing this country apart, obstructing any common sense policies or programs to get us out of the mess your minions created in the first place. You are the ones who want the president to fail just to score political points...well guess what like him or not he is the president of this country and if he fails so does this country. So ask yourself how patriotic is that? Hypocrites!

      August 21, 2010 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • DecentDiscourse

      This kind of comment is precisely why it is scary to put force at the disposal of Americans.There are too many people who see only in binary. Yes/No, On/Off, Black/White. Grey areas, possibilities inbetween drastic alternatives don't exist for people like this.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Ralphie

      Then have our soldiers stay out of other countries. Why do we need 10 jillion bases around the world? The sun WILL set on the American Empire one day, just as it did on the British and all the others.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Hutt

    Seems pretty darn obvious

    August 21, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
  13. Chester

    Looks like dear Obama is NOT the President we thought him to be, I thought he was all for honestly and openness.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
    • red zora

      The public is lied to every day by the President, by his spokespeople, by his officers. If you can’t handle the thought that the President lies to the public for all kinds of reasons, you couldn’t stay in the government at that level, or you’re made aware of it, a week. … The fact is Presidents rarely say the whole truth—essentially, never say the whole truth—of what they expect and what they’re doing and what they believe and why they’re doing it and rarely refrain from lying, actually, about these matters. -Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers

      August 21, 2010 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Lori Lincoln

      President Obama does not have any real power. The Senate and House are calling the shoots. The President is just a puppet. He pretty much does what others tell him to do. Most of the advice is wrong and misguided yet it is like the President has to wait on the Senate and House members to draft these over thousand page plus worthless bill with a lot of crap(like the excessive pork, earmarks, catering to the lobbyists-special interest groups) in the particular bill that has nothing to do with its original purpose ( too much special interest, too much compromises, to much under the table and back room dealing, to much lying to the people, too much stalling, too much filibusters abuse which results in nothing getting done for the people). This game that is being played by the “Party of Hell No” has gotten very old and we the people progress-independent must make sure there is going to be some changes in the Fall Election. Heck, there is the biggest crises of unemployment, yet the GOPs members are constantly come up with crap in the media to distract you individuals from working with the Democrats and President Obama. We don’t want the finger point crap we want plans, solutions, and action. You people in the Senate and House as members should really be ashamed of yourselves for the in action and poor jobs that they doing in the name of big business while saying in the next breath screw the middle class people who are being hurt daily with the constant game playing (ex the mess in the media daily about for example the construction of a proposed mosque and Muslim cultural center near the site of ground zero which the media is pushing to no end, instead of asking the questions each one of you about where are your plans and solutions to address the many crises that are impacting some many people lives today). Do not tell us that you have many ideal but the Democrats and the President will not include your in the discussion; yet we have not heard not one. If you really had these great plans why not share them in front of the media that use so well to criticized the other colleges the across the aisle. I sorry to tell you foolish individuals that includes both sides that the people who are hurting right now want you to knock the crap off, stop telling us that Washington is broken, instead of getting the people’s work done and stop the smoke screen, l stop the lying, cheating and pretending that you are representing us while really you are all in the hip pockets of big business who are paying you off to represent their interest and not ours- the American people (middle class). So most of you who are constantly come in front of the media a stating that you are representing us need to stop with the lies, we are not stupid (oh by the way you know who are that are playing these games). This why I pray that in the fall this year that the American people who can see through the games being played by both side, see the lack of in actions on your behalf, abuse of the filibuster tools to hurt rather than work with the President address and resolve the crises before the country right now; it is time to clean house of all you slackers in Washington who continue to go there and do nothing other than fight across the table-aisle like little kids, while the few independent-progressive congressional members who rally want to do the right thing voices are being suppressed of drowned out. I know there a few Republicans members especially who would like to break rank and do the right thing for the people yet they have been manipulated, lied to, given the same talking points, threaten to stick with the pack or else suffer the negative consequences of Mc Connell John Boehner and other Republican members who do not give a darn about the middle class people who are hurting. I appears you only plans are to get control of both the house and senate so they can really make sure the continue with this obstructive and devise behavior against President Obama and the Democrats. Therefore, as an independent voter I would be the first in support of some real plans, solutions from the Republican members if your party member were not so eager to repeat the same failed terribly policies that they used 8 years ago that has ran the country into ground and toward another Great Depression. While we the people keep hearing this bunch of mess or you so call answer is more and more out sourcing to third world countries that can do the manufacturing of good cheaper-at slave =wages, lower taxes for big corporation to help with jobs creation- another big fat lie because you know big business do not pay taxes they have the write off that the average individual does not have the privilege(s) of using or writing off, higher taxes are job killers for small business-another lie being stated everyday, let the markets run free and wild, no regulations for businesses of any kind, no transparency for bad business behavior, lets just allow the big business do what ever the heck they want while you guys are doing these dirty deals in the back-board rooms with you special interest friends, exchanging of large sums of money for those business who donate into your PAC and honor the many favors that you must keep when you go went to Washington, lets allow the big corporations to self regulate, forget about the safety, and oh by the way lets kill the union because they represent those little people (oh you mean the fools who we tricked again to get elected and re-elected because you told us what we wanted to hear and expected you to do the right thing all of these concepts which were implemented and supported by 90% of the Republicans in the past and what happen to the country? Republicans and Democrats members just to let you know that you that you are not fooling some of us again on trying to sell us on failed plans or to return to past failed policies which you know those plans or solutions did not work before and we do not want to see if they will work again (it is like you trying to sell us a wooden nickel that you really have some new and/or improved version of the above mention solutions). It is really time to move on and try something different now and not return to the old game of business as usual. Because really what you doing are crating a two class system of the rich and the poor while destroying the middle class people.

      August 21, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith1952

      It was quite a long rant but all true. Until people wake up and realize that there is no difference between the Republicans and Democrats there will be no change.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jan Tervonen

    To suggest that the Swedish prosecutor trumped up the charges is simply absurd. To suggest that the females made it up, well, that remains to be seen. However, I wouldn't go so far to allege that they are women "hired" by the American government etc.

    August 21, 2010 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Tari Torch Sweeney - Shaker Heights, OH

      I'm sorry....tell me again that the Swedish government is any different than the USA when they make these things up? Come on. You are living on fantasy island. Please. I am NOT defending the US government, either...I'm saying that, when confronted with these types of situations, most governments turn inward to protect themselves. US was probably totally bothering Swedish government and talked them into this. bet is that they are trumped up charges.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Michael Bloom

      Like these charges would have been filed had wikileaks not published its story?

      August 21, 2010 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  15. Jean-Claude

    oldest and sleaziest tactic in the world.....try living in America to see how it works (express anti-Government views in local newspaper, only to have your home illegally entered, be fraudulently pulled over by police, etc. – in the case of arrest for remaining outspoken, you will be rushed throuygh their corrupt judicial system, where at trial the final abomination takes place as the judge asks if you under stand your rights prior to passing sentence. My God, America's stench fills the world).

    August 21, 2010 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Dustin h

      I do it everyday and have an M-16 flag just underneath my American flag that says "come and take it". Living quite well!

      August 21, 2010 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
    • drsolo

      Actually, Jean-Claude is quite close to the truth. A friend of mine was elected to local office after years of service to her inner city and underserved community. Because she didnt accept contributions over $20 she wasnt owned and operated by any big interest on either side. She made serious waves and within a very short time the FEDS came after her with trumped up charges and as usual they bloated the number of charges to make it look like she would go away for life and also went after her two daughters (one in the army). She had nobody to back her with big bucks to fight the charges, the lawyer she could afford was an idiot so she knuckled under, did a no contest and served a year or so. If they WANT you they WILL find something or somebody to accuse you of something and you better be Gates or Getty or Winfrey to be able to fight it.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
    • I just bought an M16 flag

      Before I just had my M16 hanging below my 5 American flags with a sign that just said "Try and take it" and then SOMEONE DID. The flag is working much better although I no longer have an M16 to take.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • william watson

      I have and still am expeirancing all you describe. Can you believe the lynch mob that came out when the charges were announced.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
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