Four Israelis were killed near Hebron in the West Bank on Tuesday, Israeli medical sources said, and one of those killed was pregnant.
The army said the incident occurred near Bani Naim junction.
Wiping Hebron its not an option since its not the main problem and the poor palestinian civilians do not deserve to be murdered by one's act . Last time Israel was assertive it was in december 2008 and the Hamas knew it so he deployed attacks from The residence of Gaza's civilians Deliberately and since then many delegitamize israel due to that " assertive " behaviour . We must not let the Hamas ploy to succeed if we are to reach an agreement soon .
Dont generelize palestinians , just denounce Hamas , he wants only hate to spread , not peace .
The settlers can be controlloed by democracy and security forces , Hamas cant be , for now .
Good point. Yes, killing innocents is never an option. I do disagree when you say that only Hamas refuses peace. It's much more widespread than this (Fatah, and all the other terrorist groups are in the same situation even if they appear less vocal). I dare say that the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world is not OK with Israel being a Jewish state. And OK they are not all terrorists....but very likely: sympathizers
Fatah are lppets by the PLO , the big forces of terror are mostly hezbollah and hamas supported by iran ,
they are the the main reason for the current situation more than anything else .
Im tired of that CNN propaganda,TELL THE TRUTH!
I think that Pres. Bush paid off the IDF to kill these poor Israelis to blame the Innocent Muslims. When will the USA ever learn. The Great Satan will fall.
All – please let's not forget that 4 innocent people lost their lives at the hand of murderers today. It's not a game.
KILLED???!!! They were MURDERED by Arab-muslim terrorists!!!
There are sensible Jews, Muslims, and Christian trying to stand against extremism in both sides. They are not many in numbers now but they will prevail. They are the hope for peace in the wholly land.
Correction: there are plenty of non-extremists in the Jewish and Christian camp. In the Muslim camp, they are the lone voice
Typical Palistinian crap. How's those peace talks workin out?
The mere fact that the world even wants to sit down with those primitive Palestinian thugs makes me sick
Fundalmentalists only doing what is fundamental to Islam. Murdering infadels and Jews.
Are you kidding me, CNN?
Those four civillians were not merely "killed" by some unknown force – they were shot dead by Hammas terrorists.
Hammas has already taken responsibility for this attack, and they're real proud of it, too.
Obvoiusly, they're trying to derail the upcoming peace talks between Netanyahu and Abbas.
But shouldn't YOU be providing such commentary? Stop being biased, that's just unprofessional.
Here's the real issue:
Both sides feel that they have god on their side. And not just god – but different gods. So long as both sides seek religious or holy or divine justification for their actions, there will never be peace. I don't have a problem with anyone believing in any religion they want. But religion should be a private thing. Until people start trying to solve their issues seccularly, they will never meet in the middle and there will be no peace.
I challenge you on this: I say that if everyone recognize that we all have the same God and with minimal, tolerant rules the entire world will know peace. We know what secular based morals can lead to....the nazis saw themselves as very moral indeed – an guess what, in their made up rules they really thought they were...so it is very dangerous. same goes for the romans, or the greeks, etc....and guess who the only ones that are still alive are? The Jews.
To my knowledge, Judaism in the ONLY religion that says that everyone has a place in the world to come no matter what their religion is (Did you all know this??). No conversion necessary, no sharia to follow, no sword that will fall down on your neck should you refuse a specific way. But 99% of the people ignore this because in their experience it has not been like this.....I suggest you look up the noachide laws....
Partially disagree with entropicSG – whether you use religion or secular thought you can justify bad behavior either way – with one exception: in Judaism you will never be able to justify murder of people that don't attack you or that don't believe in what you believe. While it is very conservative, it is the most liberal religion of all since it posits that people of all faiths have a place in "paradise". Do you know of ANY other religion that thinks like this? And guess what the implication is? You can have non-Jews on Jewish land as citizen. Now, do you think that the other side has the same tolerance? Do you think the world at large is tolerant like this?
I partially agree with you, however, I'm not sure that religion is the only cause for war in this region, as many both in Israel and in the Palestinian territories are relatively secular. It's more a nationalist problem, than it is a religious one. The religious issue comes up only in Jerusalem, and even then – two Israeli governments have offered to divide Jerusalem between the two people, but the Palestinians refused.
Personally, I would have agreed to move anywhere in the world that has reasonable climate and in which I wouldn't be an ethnic minority (although most Israelis feel very connected to their land). The thing is this – It's kind of like a game of musical chairs – the music stopped a long time ago, and us, the Jews, remained without a chair, cause the Romans kicked us off our chair and it passed on between different empires... Israel is our "chair" because it's the only land that was ever really "ours" in history. Anywhere else is taken... No matter where we go, there will always be "natives" to consider. Israel is the only place where we can call ourselves "natives" and clain some sort of right over. So, people can criticize us all they want, but until someone actually comes up with a better idea (again, we will NOT be a minority. That equals death to us), I urge you to try to understarnd our predicament.
Check out why peace will always be very precarious until Palestinians stop inculcating hate to their kids: http://www.palwatch.org/
while not able to feel the entirty of the jewish plight, I do feel like I undestand as much as a non-jew can. I believe that israel absoltely does have a right to exist. and I do believe that much (if not most of the conflict in the area is more seccular and national and economic dressed up in religous themes.
so there are those that blame the palestines or islam or whomever because jewish law says that no jew would ever "start it"
But if you ask the palestines, no doubt they will claim the opposite, that it was in fact the jews who started things.
So what exactly is the point of figuing out the answer to this chicken or the egg question? so long as both sides feel justified in the name of their god, theire
will always be conflict.
Unfortunentely, you are right, and historic debates are usually not so productive, since each side will continue on believing whatever his own historic narrative says. It is generally important to know some historic facts, only to understarnd that this conflict is very complex and not at all trivial or easy to resolve (nor is it so elementary to point blaming fingers at either side – we're both right at least some of the time).
I personally am worried about increasing religious affiliations of people from both sides, but there isn't really much to do about it (though not all religious groups are violent or unwilling to compromise). I've said that I'm not willing to live as an ethnic minority – well, I still prefer it to living in a religious state (and that's exactly what somel people, including our minister of justice, have in mind for Israel). I guess we'll see...
that's what they get.
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