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N.C. Republican calls gays 'fruitloops' in e-mail
Rep. Larry Brown is in hot water over a "fruitloops" e-mail.
A gay rights group is asking people to flood a North Carolina state representative's office with cereal after the Republican referred to gays as "queers" and "fruitloops" in an e-mail to other lawmakers.
Rep. Larry Brown, a Republican, was replying to an e-mail that state House Minority Leader Paul Stam sent to members of his caucus. That message, dated September 27, discussed Democratic House Speaker Joe Hackney receiving an award from Equality NC, according to Hackney spokesman Bill Holmes.
The e-mail string, which Holmes provided to CNN, had about 60 recipients. Brown's response consisted of two sentences: "I hope all the queers are thrilled to see him [Hackney]. I'm sure there will be a couple of legislative fruitloops there in the audience."
Messages left at Brown's legislative office were not returned Thursday morning. The cell number listed on his official state page is not working, and a message sent to Brown's e-mail address was not returned.
Brown is running unopposed for re-election this year.
The e-mail was made public recently when Equality NC Executive Director Ian Palmquist received a copy of it. "I was pretty shocked to see a legislator using that language," Palmquist said.
"Rep. Brown needs to apologize, but we haven't received any contact from him, not a word. It's offensive, but IÂ really don't think he reflects what most North Carolinians think about gay people."
Stam told News 14 North Carolina that Brown's language was inappropriate but that he was not "the speech police."
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just look at CNN's quick vote and you know 40% of the US is agreeing with this guy...
yeah but that means 60% is not
ya, but 60% of the US does not.
You could join Westboro Baptist Church. They appreciate your kind of support. Religious law vs Civil law FYI: The Taliban is absolute on religious law too, another place for you to go.
@PureCandor – actually, fruitcake has traditionally been used to indicate someone who isn't quite all there mentally. As in "nutty as a fruitcake"
Less than 40%. Even those who have a problem with gay orientations would expect a little more decorum from their elected officials.
Maybe in your job they encourge you to talk like a 12 year old, but not in mine.
I wonder how Larry Brown would feel if he was on the other end (being gay)? He probably would use all his legal and political power to change our laws on equality. Sad to hear and see people still living in the Victorian age. You think with his age, he would have grown up more maturely and had broadened his horizon and views of the world. Just sad.
Um... I'm quite sure that the "quick vote" is pretty inaccurate in representing what the US population thinks. Keep in mind what you're looking at and don't believe everything you see on the web.
And 10 years ago it would have been 50%. Progress has been made.
It doesn't matter if 98% of Americans agreed with this old fogey, the US is a nation that is suppose to pride itself on its freedoms for ALL, even the minorities we don't happen to like. That our LEGISLATOR says such things is reprehensible, and shows without question that he does not understand his position or why he was put there. It was NOT to pander to some made-up or so called "moral" majority. It was to protect ALL his people, even those he doesn't like.
So gays are "fruitloops" according to this pathetic, closeted old fart. I always thought fruitloops were things you put in your mouth and then swallowed. Is that right, Nick?
Nick: anyone who studies statistics can tell you something about quickvotes. If they are voluntary polls, they do not reflect the country as a whole. In ANY way. Simply put, only those with STRONG opinions tend to vote, and they usually vote multiple times. Based on this poll, I would infer that somewhere between 1% and 99% of the country agrees with this man.
Don't fill your head with nonsense. If you really want to know what the country is thinking, look at RELIABLE polls, not truly meaningless polls.
True enough...but 60% don't and that's a majority!
then we have 40% left to drag into the 21st century – what a backwoods, sister chasing, inbred moron he is – nice "christian" example.
Yeah because every single person in the USA answered this poll.
I'm betting if the number would have been more like 85% if they would ahve asked everybody.
I strongly believe that Rep. (used loosely) should resign his seat immediately. There should be no one in our legislative systems that should be running his mouth in that respect. People are people and should be respected. I believe because he was running unopposed is the reason he felt he could make that statment. I just wonder how he would feel if someone called his family a pack of gangsters or worse. Live and let live and make life as enjoyable as possible. I am a straight man and believe this is totally wrong and should not be made in his position. He can have all the thoughts he wants but should keep it out of politics.
Goodness, an ignorant comment and a slew of ignorant responses. Did anyone look at the poll? It says nothing about fruitloops nor can it be equated to agreeing or disagreeing with this legislator. 40% not agreeing with gay marriage may have either very positive or very negative views towards gays and should not be interpreted to suggest that the same 40% would call a gay a fruitloop.
@Reasonable: Agree. When my brother was in the Navy, he was taught "Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see."
When will that 40% finally get over the biggotary that is true out the bibel belt and stick with the strick teachings of Jesus to love one another. This is another example of the wayward teachings of the bible belt churches of the south.
Even if the stats were accurate, 40% "agree" does not result in 60% disagree. It just means 60% not "agree," which could include "no opinion," "disagree," or whatever other options they put in the poll.
I went to a family Christmas gathering in North Carolina once. I was out of my element with all of the praying before half the people unwrapped their new guns.
Enough time wasted talking about gays. Let's talk about Fruit Loops and how gaddamn awesomely tasty they are!
Yeah Nick, 60 % is a majority so that means we should allow gay marriage. Case closed.
False – 40% of those who are on CNN.com and decided to vote in the poll agree are against gay marriage. I am all for equal marriage, but a non-scientific CNN poll that you can vote multiple times on is not representative of how the entire country feels about gay marriage
Yeah,...but that is down from 80%.
I think the percentages are much higher than 40%. More like 80%
Captain Kangaroo was generally sweeter than this. He shaved his mustache and became evil.
I am pretty sure this fruitcake tried to pick me up in an airport stall.
40%? I will say 80%
gays are gays,but the media and the gays are trying to make us think gay is cool,I totally disagree.Whomever anyone sleeps with is their business,just don't push it off on others.
yeah it's a poll of people who visit CNN's website, slightly left of center...its probably closer to 50/50
Is it me or does that guy have a nice set of DSLs?
Since when do gays care about the moral majority? How many times do we have to vote down the gay rights BS? Even the Civil Rights dont cover that "Class" of people...I agree with the old guy....
The CNN poll is by no means a gauge against which to measure the sentiments of the US
Fruitloops are good.I also like Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Quaker Maple Brown Sugar Oatmeal.
what is right isn't democratic.
Ok so if 40% of people though we should have health care provided by the gov is that right? If 40% of people thought Rich should pay 90% of taxes is that right? hahah sometimes people can be wrong and those 40% are. We are free to date whomever we want, otherwise we are standing in the way of peoples pursuit of happiness...
The CNN poll does not show that ANYONE agrees with the guy in the above article. Just because some people believe that gay people should not get married does not mean that they would be disrespectful of them as human beings. Also it is time to give equal rights to everyone in the USA. We have become a backward thinking nation that is being left behind in comparison to the rest of the world. We may like to think that we are superior but unfortunately that is not the case. We must stop stamping on others so that we can live the so called 'American Dream' that is quickly becoming the AMerican Nightmare to many of our population.
Don't worry, most of them are old and will be dead soon. Generation X (slightly liberal) and the Millennials (slightly more moderate) are rapidly taking control from the crusty, old, dirtbags currently in power.
Rep Brown is just more proof that old people + technology don't mix.
I agree with him. If Westboro Church didn't exist and make ignorant remarks, more would agree. Their cause is making others thinking differently. They're still F ags though!!
Yes...and we should have a term for this guy in November...UNEMPLOYED.
......... which means 60% aren't. 60%; uh, that would be called a 'majority' .. no? Otherwise known as: DEMOCRACY.
I,n not Gay but think ofalll the votes he lost. Good luck.
60% times 300 million equals 180 million boxes of Fruit Loops. Mmmm..fruity.
That's not so bad.. Wake me when he calls the ACLU cocopuffs..
Thanks for fair and balanced news CNN.. riiiiight
That's okay. He's exercising his right to free speech. Just like I'm using mine when I call him Corn Pops, ancient old corn-fed hick that he is.
You must be white trash, just like this idiot in NC. I knew they were all inbred, this shows.
Make that 40% +1. Who the hell wants a poop packer around them.
And what would one expect from a state where they kept a racist like Jesse Helms in office? A good dose of education and a century of moderate democrats would solve their problem.
Why should you not have the freedom to express your displeasure or express your opinion on a bunch of peter puffers.Do you think it is normal for one male to take the penis of another male in his mouth.
Why should you not have the freedom to express your displeasure or express your opinion on a bunch of peter puffers.Do you think it is normal for one male to take the penis of another male in his mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
well, count me as one of them.
If it walks like a Duck, and smells like a Duck, and quacks like a Duck, then it's a Duck!
Not the kind of language I'd expect out of someone in his position. Play nice!
Larry Brown is stealing an Eddie Murphy line?
No, they are usually more subtle. They usually just cast their anti-gay votes and then run back to their mistresses before they have to go home and face a frigid wife making Friday meatloaf under the constant gaze of a picture of Jesus.
Rep. Brown is more upto date says:
October 9, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Than you think…he lifted the term off a CNN blog debating a gay issue. The man apparently has his ear on the ground, to one of the major feeds of the rainbow coalition, CNN. Why condemn him? Gays are fruitloops…a rather nice term of endearment for crazy!
He tells butt-jokes!
All house representatives are fruitloops!
PAT, YOU HAVE A FRUITLOOP WITH A BIG LOOPHOLE FOR A BRAIN!! GOT IT??
WHAT'S THAT GUSTAVO???? WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU!!!!! YELL LOUDER!!!!!!!!
No that would be fruitcakes
Fruit loops do not contain fruit. So maybe he is saying they are NOT fruity.
@jay try eating the cereal, they are fruit-flavored cereal...very good brand of cereal, rainbow colored, shaped like cheerios. Rep Brown hijacked the term from CNN blog...so give it a rest...he owes no apology...a more positive pun!
I think he needs to look in the mirror. The GOP has become a Party of disgraceful politicians. He probably refers to Black people in similar ways.
"He probably refers to Black people in similar ways." As fruit loops?
calls them coco-puffs?
to termlimits – dont be stupid...unless you really dont get what jesus meant...in that case, I'm sorry for you
Wiz, I LMAO @ coco-puffs.
@wiz:
You know, I can see that being hate speech if used right but..... is it just me, or would we rather be called "black people" or "coco puffs?" I'm actually liking being a "coco puff person."
Lets do this. "Black people" is now the slur, "coco puff" is the proper usage.
"Coco puff" sounds like a derogatory term for a gay black person.
He might just call black folks "snowball". Would that be "hurtful" too? lol
Wym, i think the derogatory term is probably more like "coco poof".
coco puffs...frickin' hilarious man...
@wiz
I think I love you.
To kids and anyone who watches the commercial, coco-puff means CRAZY!
A good knda of crazy that you will do a good kinda of crazy to get your hands on it...you people have no childhood or you have forgotten it!
"White women love their coco-puffs" now to me that MIGHT be a derogatory statement and you won't know to you ASK THE QUESTION...
cause they may or may not be talking cereal
Callin' all call to Black men...pull out your T-shirts labeled "Coco-Puffs" and start wearing them out in the open...
THE SECRET IS OUT...it's not the blue pill that causes blindness...they kno' now it's the Coco-puff cereal.
do da' wheat-man: daily bowl of coco-puffs, works for you too! But jah must throw dem blue pills away: blue-pills with a bowl of coco-puff too much for da heart!
I doubt this guy uses the word black in private.
@E Elliot get your N-word azz out of the N-word gutter! Putta LID on yo garbage can BRAIN!
I thought it was pretty funny. What a great word for crazy gay people, fruitloops. Things are only offensive if you let them be. This guy is an idiot, true, but you probably are too. I'm not trying to be offensive, like I said, it's only offensive if you let it be. We need a stronger sense of humor and strength in ourselves. It's ok to call cheerleaders Cheerios on Glee, but we can't call gay people Fruitloops? Just laugh at this old man and move on.
Sorry Phil...didn't mean to respond to you with my comment 🙂
People could call us ANYTHING they want if we had EQUAL RIGHTS. But we don't. That's what's at issue. So please don't compare us to cheerleaders on Glee. Don't forget, we are real people, leading real lives, paying real taxes.
Belinda you are a hateful, ignorant pig. That is all you slimey bigot. No god. Only human.
Belinda, you don't have to support anything. Nobody's asking for your support. Gay people have been harassed, literally, to death, and treated like they don't belong in society. If you can't see what's wrong with that, why can't you internalize your hatred and move along? CNN is doing a good thing in response to some really bad things that have been happening. I don't agree with them most of the time, but this series of articles reaches out to people, especially teens, who need to know that they have worth.
Hmmmm . . . be called names and just move on. How about you remember that the next time someone says the "N" word. Gay people are not taking this stuff anymore. Understand? We will win – with intelligence. We hold our heads up and we are not the weak stereotype that people like to make us out to be. No more. We are tired.
it would be funny to simply laugh at the silly old man and move on...but there's that thing about him having legislative power and voting on issues and all – the reason its not funny is because he has the potential to impact what rights gays are prohibited from having...
to Mom – that is not gay behavior...that is incest and is a learned behavior. How many others in your family act incestually? The question you should be asking is which of yoru family taught him its ok..or which neglected to teach him its not ok?
Except that kids are killing themselves over name-calling like this. In our schools it is called "bullying". There is currently a campaign on CNN and elsewhere to control and prevent it within the school system. Where is the outcry against bullying by adults outside the schools? How can we hold children accountable when our public leaders are not? We should not "just laugh at this old man and move on". We should demand his resignation and a public apology to all gay and lesbian citizens and their families.
Belinda, if you keep your tinfoil hat on very very tight, you can keep the gay agenda from controlling your mind.
Absolutely right on the money Phil. Enough time wasted talking about gays. Let's talk about Fruit Loops and how gaddamn awesomely tasty they are!
Being a cheerleader is not an integral part of ones life-long being. I'm constantly amazed at the crazy analogies made regarding gay people.
Maybe he shoud have called the cry babies. Seems like thats all they do.
I would love to laugh at the guy and move on. Unfortunately the guy is in position to make laws for our country. We need to ensure he does not have our support and run him out of office. Then we can laugh at him.
Jinks and Phil, thank you.. right on the money! It seems as if more and more people are so preoccupied with being "offended" by the things others say or do these days to even give a second thought to more serious problems that effect even more people in the world today. Its a better idea to think about what we do have than dwell on what we don't yet have. Remember when you were 6 and your sibling or friend would tell on you because you said something naughty? That is what all this reminds me of. Sure we may not agree with the old guy but we aren't 6 years old anymore so get over it, grab a bowl of something delicious, find something better to do, and move on. The world will catch up one day, just be patient (though I know its hard sometimes). Cereal nicknames are fun, embrace it.
Hey its North Carolina – land of the STUPIE (trust me), the PIG PULL and the TURKEY SHOOT – you shouldn't be surprised that someone this stupid holds a public office (unopposed too) in that state – I left NC years ago because I couldn't stand the level of hypocracy and ignorance any more. Enough said?
Land of the STUPIE?
I am so glad you left NC and went up to RI, we dont need your kind of idiot here in NC.
You are trying to imply that a pig pull and a turkey shoot are things that they are not, you obviously know nothing about this state yet want people to think that you do. You are probably a self hater because you cant stand your own RI accent and I can certainly understand that, it is one of the worst to have.
You are the STUPIE one....LOL
When you left North Carolina, the average I.Q. for the state went up.Thanks for leaving.
LAND OF THE STUPIE? I think we're glad you left. There are idiots everywhere and bigots everywhere. NC is my home and I'm not a redneck and I have a master's degree. I'm not ignorant and I love our state. And last of all, I'm glad he's not MY representative.
Very well put, JeffID. FOR THE MOST PART, THE SOUTH IS IGNORANT AND VERY PASSIVE PEOPLE. They rarely vote to get clowns like him out of office. I know first hand I have cousins there.
@Cyd: If you know something first-hand, it means you lived there and have direct experience/knowledge. Having cousins who live there does not make it first hand. If only I lived in his district, this man would no longer be running unopposed.
Hey don't go bashing a Turkey shoot.
Or Fruit Loops! They are gawddamn tasty!
I live in NC and you are so right. There are a lot of good people in NC, but you venture out of the cities (especially into places like Asheboro, Ramseur, Montgomery County) and it's like you stepped back 60 years and 50 IQ points! The people are hypocritical bible thumpers at the worst, and the most judgmental bunch of folks you'll ever meet. This Representative sounds like he's bred from the same bunch of "mightier-than-thou" inbreds from the backwoods of NC!
First of all, as a native of NC, I am appalled by this legislator's views and behavior, and if he lived in my district, I would probably run for his office if for no other reason than to get him out of the House.
It is true that NC is a very conservative state, and I believe the views he expressed sadly do represent the majority of our voters. Even for them, however, I would hope that the fact that he would use such epithets in an email would demonstrate his severe lack of judgment. One can disagree respectfully with others, and his actions show that he does not grasp that. I worry what that means regarding his ability to create laws that are fair for all of the people in his district and not just people with whom he personally identifies.
As for Jeff, I'm sorry your experience in NC was not a good one. I, however, find it ironic that you are belittling an entire group of people (North Carolinians) in the same dismissive & offensive way that Rep. Brown did the gay community. And yet you accuse *us* of hypocrisy. Pot, meet kettle.
What an insult to a perfectly good cereal
I think your comment Mark is the only comment that makes sense.
This message board is proof that ignorance is alive and well and perfectly willing to push a teenager over the edge with no reservations whatsoever.
Chuck! you ignorant Fcuk! Don't you see what's going on here? This entire story is designed to lead you away from something productive and into the realm of nonsense, distraction and misdirection! It's what the media does to all of us.
I for one am a proponent of abandoning this macaroon 'newsy' agency in favor of a giant bowl of Fruit Loops. They are so gaddamn tasty I can't help myself.
Jinks the Cat --They have an employment opening for you in the Senators office. Seems you meet all of the qualifications.
Sarah with an H you are right on the money! Only in office could I champion the true bipartisan healing and strength that can only come from a GIANT bowl of tasty Fruit Loops! You are an incredibly intelligent person. I can tell by the H. Would you consider being my campaign manager? Free Fruit Loops are waiting if you say Yes!
I'm sorry but I can't take bribes from corrupt politicians or anyone else.
I see that you get it. And you are clearly trimmed from high moral fiber too! More so than 99.9% of the fools who waste time on these diversionary comment screens. Well done Sarah with an H, well done. Join me for some Fruit Loops before I depart this thread and seek the next bit of digital lunacy. I'm buying.
Fly away my friend and spare us your senatorial vulgarities.
Of fruitloops???
Which means that he is probably gay....
Most people who are strongly anti-gay are either secretly gay or afraid they are, IMO.
Agreed. He sure looks gay. What a pathetic comment.
Notice how much he looks like fellow Republican Larry Craig.
But does he have a "wide stance"??
Yet again a republican is caught using a computer paid for by all tax payers to spread hate. Not surprising since all republicans are hate mongers and bigots.
Possibly most, but not all. At least, one can hope there are a few good ones.
...about as intolerant as Democrats. From your generalization of one Republican, I can draw a generalization about you. Right?
Stereotype much?
Funny, we Republicans think the same thing about you democrats, you are hate mongers and bigots. It is YOUR policies that have enslaved the poor in this country for the last 50 years.
Pot meet kettle....
Mark – that's pretty danged funny. Is it opposite day?
All of you screaming hate toward this guy, need to take a step back and notice you are no different than him because your doing the same thing... so much for you tricking yourselves into thinking your a better person.
Marky Mark, you are a macaroon. Stop spreading your senseless moronacysm and embrace the power of healing through the tastiness of Fruit Loops!
Ray, that was completely uncalled for. You are leaving out such a large group of people with your narrow comment. The truth is ALL POLITICIANS are hate mongers and use tax payer dollars to spread hate...come on now! Get it right! 🙂
@mark, Finally someone with a little since to them... Thank-You!!
I remember people giggling at comments like that, just not after 7th grade. He's running unopposed? Tell us the rest of the story about his district, is it inbreeding or lead poisoning?
I use the term 'fruit loops' not as a gay identifier but meaning a 'silly or crazy person'. I cant recall hearing it used for the designation either. Noone has ever corrected me so I guess Im in the clear......
I use it to describe those who cannot function on an adult level also. One should be very careful with words, particularly if one is in public office. Nothing said will go unreported. He should apologize and then hide in a corner.
I find it FUNNY, COMEDY at its highest. I find it equally halarious that you would mail Rep. Brown boxes of fruitloops to his office. It is a positive pun for those who are in disagreement with the lifestyle and the LGTB agenda, for anybody who eats the cereal loves fruitloops; it means gays are crazy: hate the sin, yes they are crazy, but love the sinner!
P.S. I think it would make nice confetti at the next gay-sponsored Decadence Parade!(not)
because they are crunchy and sweet? How does he know that?
He likes em both in his mouth. Oh well, personally, Iike to use the words, especially to these people. Had a guy running for state office show up Sunday while doing yard work and hand me his flier, and there it was in bold print about not promoting a deviant lifestyle, so Iasked him after he was done with the F@@@@ts, was he going to do something abou the blacks and jewish folks (using the n and J words for effect). At first he was excited, thinking I was like him, until my neighbor, a good friend and black, started laughing at him. Then he proceeded to call me names, that is until he realized that I and my husband could both now beat the daylights out of him, at which point he jumped into his big shiny red truck and drive away. Funny, I have a word for him now too, you know, same as a cat.....
Anyone who speaks against something this strong in religion is most likely doing it themselves.
MOBADTHANGOOD is another one, along with Jack–probably closet cases
aww, poor little "fruitloop" got his feelings hurt.
Don't cry. Maybe one of your daddys can make it better tonite when he(they) tuck you in.