November 8th, 2010
04:15 PM ET

Michigan assistant AG fired after blogging against student

A Michigan assistant attorney general who started a blog against the University of Michigan's openly gay student body president has been fired, the state attorney general's office said Monday.

Michigan Assistant Attorney General Andrew Shirvell had taken a voluntary leave of absence earlier this fall after his blog garnered national media attention. Shirvell, a graduate of the university, took issue with what he called the student body president's "radical homosexual agenda."

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  1. Paula Parrish

    It's about time – what an embarrassment and what a horrible human being!

    November 8, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Michele

    I was wondering when that was going to happen. Good riddens!!!!!

    November 8, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Grammar Freak

      I believe the word you're looking for is "riddance." RIDDANCE not riddens.

      November 8, 2010 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Mr Whipple

    Seemed like a stupid thing to do. . .

    November 8, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Scout

    Why did this take so long?

    November 8, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
  5. jon

    Jason Jones did a nice piece on this guy a few weeks ago on the daily show. It was the only place that I saw the story. It was a funny piece, poking fun at the absurdity of the situation (the gold standard with regard to what becomes a televised piece) and it is refreshing to see that someone who would be so skewed in his thinking that he feels it is ok to be an asst. AG and take this position publicly, gets canned. Restoring sanity indeed. Crossfire, stupid Asst. AG-which irresponsible mouthpiece or civil servant is next? can't wait to see. Keep up the good work Daily Show

    November 8, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Simon C

      I saw the daily show piece, but I saw it on CNN first via a link from reddit a few weeks before daily show. The CNN guy was taking him to task as well. Any way I'm glad he got fired, it was pure cyber-bullying.

      November 8, 2010 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Splinter48708

    *SNARL* Get off the PC bandwagon. This guy was speaking his mind. If the target had a problem, he should have filed a slander suit.

    But, no, you guys want &^)(^(*%*^ blood! Say something that's not &)&^)(&^(%& PC and you scream "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!" Get over yourselves and let people say what they want to say and unless it DIRECTLY affects you...STAY OUT OF IT!

    You PC freaks hiss me off something bad, you know that??

    November 8, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scoot

      Actually, the man who was targeted did file several complaints with the AG office regarding Shirvell's conduct as a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct for the state of Michigan that every attorney must abide by.

      He deserved to lose his job and deserves to be disbarred. I'm just pretty surprised it took this long to fire him considering that he engaged in cyberbullying as well as stalking.

      November 8, 2010 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

      November 8, 2010 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • BackAtYa

      The more it upsets you the better "we" feel, don't you know that?!? We are speaking our minds, if you have a problem with it, GET OVER YOURSELF. Besides, why should we jump on your Anti-PC bandwagon??! Free speech rules... the lame dude spoke his mind and his employers let him go... sounds like win/win to me... Finally why in H-E-doubletoothpick should we take your advice when you don't abide by it either (i.e., stay out of it)

      November 8, 2010 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • dntbstpd1

      He wasn't just speaking his mind, he was slandering him, AND stalking him. The victim DID file complaints to the police, and also requested an order of protection against him BUT they were delayed by the perpetrators employer...the attorney general. Get ur facts straight before u make ur self look asinine.

      November 8, 2010 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the founders intended when they spoke of free speech. In this case it actually worked perfectly. Shirvell forgot that with free speech comes responsibility and consequences. In this case other people spoke up against HIM and his employer felt that he could not satisfactorily represent them. It's not as though he's going to jail, the government isn't leveling charges against him, so his rights have not been infringed upon in any way. All you seem to want is to be able to be as hateful as you like with zero consequences.

      Also, he was technically employed by the people since he held a government position. I think that gives the people the right to ask for his resignation if they collectively feel that he has acted inappropriately and cannot fulfill the duty he was employed to do. Since he is in the business of practicing law, his bias and hatred could easily compromise his ability to do his job.

      November 8, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Splinter48708

      Where's the "delete" key. I want to retract this and there's no delete option...Oh well...

      November 8, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Stefan

    He shall burn in his respective hell.

    November 8, 2010 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Lynn

    Bye Bye Wade!!! Glad to see you go. Jerry needs to hire another coach like Jimmy Johnson and stay off the field and at a distance. Let them do their job. WHAT THEY GET PAID FOR!!! They COWBOYS need to buck up and play ball, GET their act together!!! Thats what they get paid to do.

    November 8, 2010 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shelby C

      Wrong article, Lynn.

      November 8, 2010 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Ashley Fowlkes

    It's ashame that we live in a free country, and people still focus on the things that makes us our own person...Something as childish as starting a blog is going too far. I don't know what kind of attention that AG expected,but he got more than he bargained for.

    November 8, 2010 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Dale

    Splinter48708, it would actually be a libel suit. Slander is spoken, libel is written.

    That said, due to the man's position, it was inappropriate for him to be posting what he was. In effect he was stalking the student in addition to libeling him. That is inappropriate for a public official. His actions reflected poorly on his employer. These days many employers will terminate someone if what they do in their off time reflects badly on the company or organization.

    Whether people like it or not, when you are in a public position there are and should be higher standards for your conduct. Shirvell was in a position where he is supposed to uphold the laws of the state, not violate them.

    He got what he deserved. He is free to go into private practice and see if he can get any clients. As a private citizen he can spout off as much as he wants.

    November 8, 2010 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • dntbstpd1

      I think it could be argued that he is/was slandering AND libeling him considering his many on air TV interviews where he was agreeing with their news reports showing the slanderous statements etc. But very good point on the difference between the 2 and the technical truth of which he could be charged with, etc.

      November 8, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      Absolutely agree. He is indeed able to speak his mind, but the thing about free speech is that it carries consequences. That is the balance that usually helps keep people responsible when speaking. In this case the consequence was that he was fired, that was his employer exercising THEIR rights.

      November 8, 2010 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Splinter48708

      *snarl* People, you aren't getting it. What would you do if the President...whoever he is at the time...says something that's not PC. You gonna scream and cry that he be impeached because his actions aren't PC. If Jay Leno, Conan, Dave, or George Lopez says something that's offensive, are you going to demand his immediate firing? Carlin said non-PC stuff all the time during his life...We laughed at the jokes, overlooked his peppering of jokes with the F bomb, even tolerated his constant put downs of God all in the name of comedy, right?

      But, anyone else and he's crucified for it. Why don't we just to as the Roman, then, and erect crosses, nail those accused of not being politically correct to them and watch them die. Oh, let's not forget the "crime" being posted for all to see. "Gay Bashing", or, "Offensive to [insert group offended here]", or, "Failing to adhere to Political Correctness standards". WE MIGHT AS WELL DO THAT!!!

      Yet, another person CRUCIFIED for his opinions, made on his own time and off the clock!!! How many others are going to be CRUCIFIED because someone feelings got hurt?! Five more, 500 more. Or the entire country is at risk.

      What happened to taking care of the problem like men? What happened to "Sir, I do not agree with what you are saying...but I will DEFEND TO THE DEATH your RIGHT to say it?" It doesn't exist anymore! We've forgotton that in favors of "You offend me and I'll crucify you for it!"

      I'm actually near tears because of this. I'm so enraged at yet someone crucified this way and no one gives a care. You all want BLOOD and as soon as you smell it in the water, you're worse than sharks in a feeding frenzy.

      You demand immediate firings because you're feelings are hurt. You try to silence opinions that you don't share. And you're blinded by the PC million candlepower light shining in your faces. ANd you don't care that someone loses their jobs and paycheck in the process.

      You all need to hang your heads in utter shame.

      November 8, 2010 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Splinter, sincerely, you are a dimwitted idiot.

      November 8, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • SB

      Of course everyone has the ability to speak freely, but you have to understand that there will be consequences. Being an attorney general demands professionalism, which is where this situation went wrong. If I were to make an offensive comment, I would have to deal with the appropriate reaction of being rejected by the people I had offended. If someone makes a comment that offends you, you, at the very least, disconnect from them. That's a consequence of making the comment. There's also a difference between making a rude generalization and attacking someone specifically. Also, yes, we have freedom of speech but not the freedom to stalk and harass others. As with all of our rights and freedoms, they still have restrictions, as much as we don't want to believe it. For the most part, these are obvious and tend to go without saying, but are there to prevent loopholes. Things would run a lot more smoothly if people would use their best judgement consistently.

      December 22, 2010 at 3:03 am | Report abuse |
  11. Shelby

    what an enbarassment to Michigan...

    November 8, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  12. greg

    I'm sure he's way in the closet. if you're not coming out don't make life miserable for those of us who do.

    November 8, 2010 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Greg

    He shouldn't have been fired for stating his opinion. What a nanny state we live in where if you font like someone else's opinion we call for them to be fired. What happened to the time when Americans were American and handled problems instead of hiding behind the veil of PC and legal action?

    November 8, 2010 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      You don't understand, he used state resources to defame this guy and he deserves to be fired. It went beyond an opinion and into the realm of harassment. Have you read the full story Greg?

      November 8, 2010 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      There's a difference between stating your opinion about how you don't like what a person is doing and stalking them, taking pictures outside of their house, following them around on campus so much that you get banned from the premises, posting pictures of them with swastikas drawn on their face, etc.

      November 8, 2010 at 8:50 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Tyler

    This was just a segment on the daily show

    November 8, 2010 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  15. WhiteKong78

    There's a difference between speaking your view about gay influence on a university campus and using your position as assistant AG to protect your borderline criminal behavior. This has nothing to do with PC running rampant. If anyone set up a website devoted to where I keep my sausage then I'd press charges and sue everyone involved. I often wonder why supposedly straight men are so fixated on other men's junk. I'm straight and even this bothers me. Sue Mike Cox too while you're at it. I hope that entire staff gets put out on the street.

    November 8, 2010 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
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