November 10th, 2010
10:52 PM ET book defending pedophilia sparks boycott

A listing for 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure' is no longer on

[Updated at 10:52 p.m. ET] The title no longer appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers.

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] The listing for "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" is no longer available on The title still appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers at number 96, with 2,066 comments.

An e-book for sale on that appears to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulls the title.

Nearly 1,700 users who had commented on the title as of 9:40 p.m. ET deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the self-published title from the site. At least two Facebook  pages have been set up dedicated to boycotting Amazon because of the book.

The stated content appears to violate two of Amazon's content guidelines for digital publication. The company has not returned CNN's repeated requests for comment.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" said he published the controversial tome to address what he considers unfair portrayals of pedophiles in the media.

"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday.

When asked if the self-published e-book was a "how-to manual," he said, "there are certain parts that are advisory," which set out lines that should not be crossed.

"Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem," he said.

The Pueblo, Colorado, man told CNN that he has not had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but did when he was a teenager. He also said he "was introduced to oral sex when I was 7" by an older female but did not provide specifics.

In the title's product description, Greaves described it as "my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian [sic] rules for these adults to follow.

"I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught," he said.

Most users who commented on the title said they deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the title.

"It is ILLEGAL to molest children, and for Amazon to promote such is insane. I'm an abuse survivor, and am OUTRAGED Amazon would choose to promote this nonsense. I will not be purchasing anything from your website until this is removed," one user wrote in a comment echoed by others.

Others lamented they could not give the book less than "one star" in submitting their reviews, saying they would shop elsewhere during the holiday season.

"Cannot believe that Amazon is selling this. I was in the middle of placing my whole Christmas shopping order when I saw something about this. After reviewing it, I have canceled my order from Amazon and am encouraging all of my friends not to order from Amazon because they are choosing to sell this book. I will not be purchasing anything from Amazon until they agree to quit selling this book," another user said.

Amazon did not return CNN's requests for comment, but one user posted what it said was Amazon's response to an e-mail the person had sent.

"Let me assure you that does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."

" believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable."

The company's website provides content guidelines for titles sold through its Digital Text Platform Program. The guidelines say publishers are expected to conduct proper research to ensure that titles are in compliance with all local, state, national and international laws.

"If Amazon Digital Services, Inc. determines that the content of a Title is prohibited, we may summarily remove or alter it without returning any fees. Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to make judgments about whether or not content is appropriate," the guidelines state.

Pornography, offensive material and "titles which may lead to... illegal activity" are among the prohibited content listed in the guidelines.

What Amazon deems offensive, "is probably about what you would expect" the guidelines state, without elaboration, except to say that, "Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to determine the appropriateness of Titles sold on our site."

A few users defended the author's right to free speech, and a discussion on the site titled "Why Amazon is Right" delved into the constitutional implications of the controversy.

"While I think 99.9 percent of us object to pedophilia (even though I think this particular book was a publicity stunt/joke), I think we can all agree that we don't want someone else censoring a subject matter that we may be interested in. Religion, atheism, homosexuality, etc. are some subjects that spring to mind ... and they have been censored in the past until we realized that it's best to let all information in (even if we don't like some of it), rather than allow some authority or individual decide what we can and can't know about based on their own opinions or motivations," one user wrote.

The author has three other titles on under his name. They are available on the e-reader, Kindle, and all were published within the last week.

Greaves described himself as a former nurses' aid and in-home health care provider who is retired and on disability for "manic depression." He said he first began writing as a child and hopes to continue doing so full time.

But conspiracy theories over the book abound, with commenters citing it as a publicity stunt, a hoax, or perhaps a law enforcement sting.

"People... Relax... This book is obviously promoted by Amazon per request of FBI in order to track down and catch pedophiles. This book is obviously a bait for the sickos that are lurking around out there trying to prey on our children."

soundoff (568 Responses)
  1. CaptainObvious

    Speak with your wallets people. There are tons of Hollywood actors who don't think pedophilia is wrong either. You can Google Roman Polanski or Woody Allen's supporters and boycott them as well. Amazon will never see anymore of my money.

    November 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Really? Tons? You mentioned 2 obvious ones that everyone knows about, yet you say tons of Holloywood actors...moron

      November 10, 2010 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oh, you :T

      He mentioned two celebs who have purportedly engaged in the act, Dave. The list of celebs who have offered their public support for Polanski is much, much larger than two people.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Laura

      And if you were to sum the weight of Polanski supporters it would amount to tons. Perhaps the observation is a little overly-dramatic, but quite factually correct.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wolfen

      Technically, neither Woody Allen nor Roman Polanski were suspected of "pedophilia" as the objects of their attention were post-pubescent. Their issues were hebephilia or ephebophilia. The rest of your rant was stupid.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • KDW31

      Not to be pedantic, but I don't think Allen is necessarily a pedophile. The daughter of Farrow was 22 when she married Allen. Though there is no way to know when the relationship started. Also he was a father figure to her which makes it icky no matter how old she was.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Richard

      Woody Allen married an 18-year-old girl, that's not pedophilia. Poor taste to marry the adopted daughter of his ex-wife, but not pedophilia.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Richard

      Oops, I got it wrong! Soon-Yi was 22, and Woody Allen was her adopted mother's boyfriend, not husband.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anne

      Not my money either. BOYCOTT TO AMAZON, we don't need companies like that.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lawrence

      What's next, "Pedophilia for dummies?"

      November 10, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • paulacvdw

      So, the capitalistic market is responding. Not only the "Nanny" Democrats.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lana Gee

      As a child, my American mom told me, go out and play and have fun, but be careful- there might be people in cars who try to grab children and do bad things to them- don't get in their car, and if they try to grab you kick em in the balls and run- Thanks Mom- She was right too- we don't need to encourage any pedophile club forming against our childrens lives and well being–Won't be shopping Amazon this holidy season !

      November 10, 2010 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • me

      yeah dont forget..Elvis P and Jerry Lee Lewis..they were ped's get your jaws off the floor and get over it

      November 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Mogwi

    Freedom of speech. If you do not like the book, then do not buy it. There are countless books that essentially explain how to make drugs, explosives, or commit fraud. I could go on and on. Hiding this issue does not make it go away. Keeping it in public will hopefully force us to speak about this issue and find more effective ways do deal with it.

    November 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Laurie

      I don't like the book either and would never in a million years buy it. However, I DO NOT believe in banning a book. Period. It is up to each individual to decide whether or not to buy the book. Don't like it? Then don't buy it. Very simple.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • c

      Freedom of speech is the blessing and curse of our country, in that I have to listen to your bad opinions and lack of understanding of what freedom of speech is, but on the other hand, you have to listen to mine calling you stupid.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kh4

      No freedom of speech here. This is wrong on so many levels. It encourages crimes against our children. Disgusting, immoral and should be illegal.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      The first amendment does not mean we have to give equal forum to every kind of speech. Amazon does not and should not give these kinds of "books" a forum. Just as CNN, Youtube, etc have moderators, Amazon needs to have a moderators. Amazon managment needs to get a clue.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Take action against Amazon

      Just as you cannot yell fire in a theater and call it free speech, you cannot disseminate information to destroy childrens lives. The thoughtless comments by people who claim this is free Speech know nothing of the depraved nature of the crime.

      WE the shoppers have the ability to put amazon out of business.

      Librarians, parents and communities do not permit books on bomb building in their libraries, as some suggest is a first amendment right. The majority of the people posting to repect the first ammendment comment here are probably on the Internet in prison right now for these crimes.

      I think Americans have the obligation to put amazon out of business, not merely refuse to shop until they get rid of this horrid material. Clearly they are willing to promote anything to make a buck, if they are willing to promote one of thee most heinous crimes on this planet.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • AJS

      It is Amazon's choice to offer the book just as it is my choice not to buy products from Amazon.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Misstrixie

      A guide to raping children is free speech??? You are one sick individual.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • whatnext

      I take it you have no problem with the less public material NAMBLA publishes.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ellie

      Why are you using "Freedom of Speech" as a shield? The pervert who wrote their book has their freedom of speech. Now those who are a part of Amazon are practicing their freedom and boycotting Amazon till the book has been removed. I too will not be purchasing from Amazon until this disgusting book is removed. There's no excuse in promoting this kind of behavior.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anne

      Freedom of speech? First comes the freedom of kids to not be abused.
      It is sick to think this is Freedom of speech.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Logical

      "Keeping it in public will hopefully force us to speak about this issue and find more effective ways do deal with it."

      Might dealing with it include not allowing the sale of pedophile instruction manuals? Moron....

      November 10, 2010 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • LP

      Legally, if that speech puts anyone in clear and present danger can be legally curtailed. I'd say that this meets that definition just fine- particularly the phrase about getting perverts a lighter sentence. If this was reported to the FBI, it would likely be removed.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Billy

    Hey Gizmo your freedom ends at my nose. Your freedom also ends at my kid's booty. Promoting criminal behavior always hides under the cloak of the first amendment. If people want to promote their twisted ideas then they should not be surprised when they are sued into poverty by a victim's family. Gizmo is a good name for a tool. Yes I'm aware of the band also.

    November 10, 2010 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      Quite right. It's important that we protect the first amendment, and equally important that we hold individuals accountable for their actions. If this book directly led to an act of pedophilia, then the author should be held liable in part for civil damages. We have the right to say whatever we want, but that's tempered with the responsibility of our actions.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      Correction: that should read "an act of pederasty". Pedophilia is, of course, the disorder while pederasty is the act. Apologies.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Rachel

    Phillip R. Greaves II must be a pseudonym- I can't remember the name of that guy in California a couple years ago who was a pedophile and took pictures of kids at playgrounds and such, creeping parents out. The story was front page everywhere– He was arrested once, but he hadn't committed a crime and had to be set free...He claimed that he was trying to promote positive pedophilia or something like that.... What was that sicko's name? I'll bet he's the author!

    November 10, 2010 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
  5. a

    that's sic and in should b pulled. it is illegal and they dont have a 'right' i will not support Amazon.

    November 10, 2010 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Takara

      Writing a book about an unpopular subject is not illegal. Plain and simple. Hell, even being a pedophile in and of itself isn't illegal. You can think all you want. Last I checked, thinking isn't against the law. It's only until you ACT on something like that. THEN it's illegal. Yes, it's an insane subject matter, but regardless, it's all fair.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
  6. mike m.

    just started on my new book"101 Ways To Kill A Pedophile & Not Get Caught." guess who will have it in stock?

    November 10, 2010 at 7:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • SBBlair

      Mike, I'll take a copy. Might even be able to help you get it to 150 ways. I have 40 acres with a pond, creek, well and a big pile of lime. Do the math.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • afsoc

      Mike, Im on board and I think I can add a few for your book,..!

      November 10, 2010 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bucks12965

      I like it! Tell me where & when it's available & I'll buy a copy.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jessica S

      Sounds like a good read to me Mike!

      November 11, 2010 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
  7. Yaara

    You can also buy Mein Kampf and a bunch of other horrible stuff from Amazon. That doesn't make Amazon evil. Nor does it make everyone who buys that stuff evil. Heck, I read Mein Kampf for a course on the psychology of prejudice. I'm not defending the pedo book or its author, but I certainly support Amazon for continuing to sell books regardless of their content.

    Now, if it's a how-to book, it then becomes criminal and ought to be pulled.

    November 10, 2010 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan Townsend

      The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" ...sounds like a "how-to" to me.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Poolchick

    I don't care if they remove the book or not. I will never purchase another book from them. Who ever accepted that book for Amazon to sell, should be fired. I understand freedom of speech however, this is a sensitive subject and a very serious problem. They should be ashamed of themselves for having a book like this and really should think about how wrong they are.

    November 10, 2010 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joel

      True it is a bad thing. But its the way the person is. They need help this book is written to help pedophiles to understand there desires. and how to act legally with the situation.
      I agree it is sensitive topic. But it is much more easy to get then a councilor to help them deal with pedophilia. So thats why it was allowed to be published.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • MorningStar

      Joel said: "They need help this book is written to help pedophiles to understand there desires. and how to act legally with the situation. I agree it is sensitive topic. But it is much more easy to get then a councilor to help them deal with pedophilia. So thats why it was allowed to be published."

      Joel, you are either a moron, or you don't pay attention well. This book is not an academic book that aims to understand the psychology of a pedophile and tries to help them deal with it (legally). It's a book that promotoes pedophilia and teaches pedophiles how to engage in the act, which is illegal (and sick). Reports on the book have said that he describes how to use make-shift condoms on boys who cannot wear a standard sized condom, and that he tells pedophiles that if the pedophile and child are both "disease-free" that they don't even need to worry about condoms. Are you telling me this is ok? Giving pedophiles tips is ok????? I'm nauseated, disgusted, and outraged. Freedom of speech should not cover a how-to manual on anything that harms others, especially children!

      November 11, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joel

      Sorry miss read the article. I thought it was about how to deal with the issue. Not how to pursue the issue. Now I completely agree the book is bad.

      November 11, 2010 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |

    @mike m now that sounds like a good book.

    to bad they don't publish a list of who buys the books.

    November 10, 2010 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • SBBlair

      Hopefully some really good hackers read your comment and took it as a challenge. We can always hope, right?

      November 10, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
  10. SBBlair

    @Amazon – I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but what the he!! are you thinking?!

    November 10, 2010 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Kevin

    Free speech is free speech...if you don't like it...don't buy the book....but don't try and tell me I cannot read it simply because you don't like it.

    November 10, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ellie

      We live in a country that practices capitalism. Just like you believe this pervert has the freedom to publish this twisted book, the people have the right to demand standards from a private company. Using a boycott to get Amazon to remove this book from it's stock is another freedom we the people have.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
  12. BooksAreCool

    There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all.
    -Oscar Wilde

    November 10, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oscar

      using a quote from a twisted author to talk about another twisted author, interesting logic, logic from Saturn

      November 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Joe

    This is just another example of how people do not really understand freedom of speech. Amazon can sell this as long as it's not illegal (ie showing pictures of pedophilic acts, etc), and you have the freedom fo speech to boycott them. You have the freedom of speech to hate them, you have the freedom of speech to start rallies against them, etc. I will not buy anything from Amazon until they take this down, but I do not believe they should be forced to. It's their freedom.

    November 10, 2010 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
  14. pkfops

    Phillip R. Greaves must be the pen name for the pope.

    November 10, 2010 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • claliengirl

      Awesome comment dude! Not only does he have the right to free speech. He is apparently also above the law! The only high-profile pedophile who still walks on water in the eyes of millions.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Adam

    I will now go buy something from Amazon to counter all the idiots claiming they won't buy from Amazon over this.

    Grow up.

    November 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lisa

      It's not an issue of "growing up". We simply choose not to do business with them. There are plenty of other retailers to choose from without supporting one selling trash such as that.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • DVS

      Yeah go ahead, buy the book itself. Seems like you're interested in the subject.

      November 10, 2010 at 8:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • UchihaMadara

      yeah Adam, anyone who is appalled at raping children should "grow up." /sarcasm

      I'll bet you typed that from prison.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Webster

      What a rebel you are.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
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