November 10th, 2010
10:52 PM ET book defending pedophilia sparks boycott

A listing for 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure' is no longer on

[Updated at 10:52 p.m. ET] The title no longer appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers.

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] The listing for "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" is no longer available on The title still appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers at number 96, with 2,066 comments.

An e-book for sale on that appears to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulls the title.

Nearly 1,700 users who had commented on the title as of 9:40 p.m. ET deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the self-published title from the site. At least two Facebook  pages have been set up dedicated to boycotting Amazon because of the book.

The stated content appears to violate two of Amazon's content guidelines for digital publication. The company has not returned CNN's repeated requests for comment.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" said he published the controversial tome to address what he considers unfair portrayals of pedophiles in the media.

"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday.

When asked if the self-published e-book was a "how-to manual," he said, "there are certain parts that are advisory," which set out lines that should not be crossed.

"Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem," he said.

The Pueblo, Colorado, man told CNN that he has not had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but did when he was a teenager. He also said he "was introduced to oral sex when I was 7" by an older female but did not provide specifics.

In the title's product description, Greaves described it as "my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian [sic] rules for these adults to follow.

"I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught," he said.

Most users who commented on the title said they deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the title.

"It is ILLEGAL to molest children, and for Amazon to promote such is insane. I'm an abuse survivor, and am OUTRAGED Amazon would choose to promote this nonsense. I will not be purchasing anything from your website until this is removed," one user wrote in a comment echoed by others.

Others lamented they could not give the book less than "one star" in submitting their reviews, saying they would shop elsewhere during the holiday season.

"Cannot believe that Amazon is selling this. I was in the middle of placing my whole Christmas shopping order when I saw something about this. After reviewing it, I have canceled my order from Amazon and am encouraging all of my friends not to order from Amazon because they are choosing to sell this book. I will not be purchasing anything from Amazon until they agree to quit selling this book," another user said.

Amazon did not return CNN's requests for comment, but one user posted what it said was Amazon's response to an e-mail the person had sent.

"Let me assure you that does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."

" believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable."

The company's website provides content guidelines for titles sold through its Digital Text Platform Program. The guidelines say publishers are expected to conduct proper research to ensure that titles are in compliance with all local, state, national and international laws.

"If Amazon Digital Services, Inc. determines that the content of a Title is prohibited, we may summarily remove or alter it without returning any fees. Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to make judgments about whether or not content is appropriate," the guidelines state.

Pornography, offensive material and "titles which may lead to... illegal activity" are among the prohibited content listed in the guidelines.

What Amazon deems offensive, "is probably about what you would expect" the guidelines state, without elaboration, except to say that, "Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to determine the appropriateness of Titles sold on our site."

A few users defended the author's right to free speech, and a discussion on the site titled "Why Amazon is Right" delved into the constitutional implications of the controversy.

"While I think 99.9 percent of us object to pedophilia (even though I think this particular book was a publicity stunt/joke), I think we can all agree that we don't want someone else censoring a subject matter that we may be interested in. Religion, atheism, homosexuality, etc. are some subjects that spring to mind ... and they have been censored in the past until we realized that it's best to let all information in (even if we don't like some of it), rather than allow some authority or individual decide what we can and can't know about based on their own opinions or motivations," one user wrote.

The author has three other titles on under his name. They are available on the e-reader, Kindle, and all were published within the last week.

Greaves described himself as a former nurses' aid and in-home health care provider who is retired and on disability for "manic depression." He said he first began writing as a child and hopes to continue doing so full time.

But conspiracy theories over the book abound, with commenters citing it as a publicity stunt, a hoax, or perhaps a law enforcement sting.

"People... Relax... This book is obviously promoted by Amazon per request of FBI in order to track down and catch pedophiles. This book is obviously a bait for the sickos that are lurking around out there trying to prey on our children."

soundoff (568 Responses)
  1. Daniel

    I'm surprised so little has been said of Lolita. Surely this book could be taken in a different context other than the obvious. I'd imagine if would come accross as a grossly humorous book. Just as we are disgusted and yet intrigued by Humbert's thoughts and actions; perhaps this could prove the same? Maybe not a literary classic, but certainly worth more than an outburst of halfbrained hot headed people.

    November 11, 2010 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Neeneko

      Because any book that is old enough to be called a 'classic' is exempted in a lot of people's minds. People fear new things, not stuff that has been around for a while.... which is why even though the book is illegal (under US lolicon laws), no one raises a complaint because it is 'obviously' ok. Which is why common sense and similar garbage sucks.

      November 11, 2010 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      It's just a shame people don't come to their moderate senses; instead everything gets blown out of porportion before people even know what they are talking about...

      I feel bad for Amazon

      November 11, 2010 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  2. Jareddkingg

    Aww Man. I was about to buy this book. I guess I'll never know the true guide to Pedophilia. 🙁 Ughh....

    November 11, 2010 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
  3. termlimits

    I am a long time customer. Now I excercise MY right not to be a customer any longer. Simple ain't it!!

    November 11, 2010 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  4. Heidi

    So they've taken down this book, but they continue to be selling stuff that supports pedophilia -

    November 11, 2010 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  5. Jay In Florida

    Freedom of expression is defunct in the US. Now Iran can turn to us and tell us right up to our faces that we were also hunting down our own Salman Rushdie.

    November 11, 2010 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Yoda

      Apples and Oranges. Its not that black and white.

      November 11, 2010 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
  6. Daniel

    You know, I've been saying how I feel bad for amazon, but I just realized... most Americans have so short an attention span they'll have forgotten about their boycott by tomorrow, lol.

    November 11, 2010 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Yoda

      You are right as soon as the got an IPad up there at a great price, oh well on the pedophile book. This is why i think protest towards the creators of this nonsense is a better course of action.

      November 11, 2010 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Jana

      You say that myself and other parents are horrible for teaching our children to judge a book by its cover. Actually that is not the case. I do believe the author said himself in an interview that he wanted to teach pedophiles to not to do certian fondle & kiss instead. That's not judging...that's what the sick man said. . It is our responsibility as a parent to protect our children. Sad day for literature...Not. How about sad day for the innocent.

      November 11, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Damned Liberal

      The type of Americans who would have boycotted Amazon over this?

      They don't read anything but the headline scroll beneath Glenn Beck, anyway! I mean, how many times can you download The Holy Bible on your Kindle anyway?

      Kindle + Conservative = Freedom vs. Moral Majority (which is neither, btw).

      November 11, 2010 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • aammeee

      Time to wake up! The liberal left nut jobs have pushed politically correct so far it obscures common sense, justice and reality. I’m sure the leftist ACLU or those other civilization destroying lunatics will be defending this criminal. As for Amazon, simple, my dollar speaks, you’re fired! Free speech, is a privilege never to be abused by criminals or used by corporation in the interest of profits! Amazon is as guilty of being a pervert as this pervert himself.

      November 11, 2010 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Heh, tell that to Fox News

      November 11, 2010 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wow

      Isn't the real story that this was in the top 100 bestsellers?

      November 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angela

      I think this is just one of the most irresponsible things I have ever heard. Its sad that big bussiness thinks its ok to support the victimization of children. We, the moral majority should take them and any other company that think its ok to publish and sell things like this down!!!

      November 11, 2010 at 11:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      That is so true but if we all come together as parents that love and care for their children we would want to support the bond on this writer.

      November 12, 2010 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
  7. christi

    Amazon, Amazon, Amazon....why don't you boycott the company that published this book in the first place?!?! F the guy who wrote it, y'all just made his sick a@$ famous!!! As for pedophiles there is a place in hell for them & I would love to see them there sooner than later!

    November 11, 2010 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
    • PepsiAddict

      According to the article the book is self-published...there is no one to boycott other than the author.

      November 11, 2010 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Coco

      you go I agree on ur position on pedophiles and im sorry but if anyone thinks "kissing and fondling doesnt hurt the child" i can positively say as an abuse victim ANYTHING HURTS THE CHILD. IT'S NOT "LOVING" IT REALLY HURTS!!!!!!

      November 11, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jacqueline

      Amazon IS the publisher. They offer a service to aspiring writers to self-publish their material through That service, however, comes with terms and conditions. The author violated those terms and conditions. failed in their job to follow their own rules when they allowed it to be published. I will forever defend the First Amendment, but if chose to not offer this publication, they are not infringing upon the author's First Amendment Rights. Saying that their refusal to sell any material is legally wrong is like saying Wal-Mart is wrong when they choose not to sell Playboy magazine. They're a business and they have a choice on what to offer their customers. THAT is called the Right to Free Enterprise, which also gives consumers the right to boycott a business if they so choose.

      November 11, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • RH of WI

      Right you are!

      November 11, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • wiccankitten

      As someone who is a child molestation survivor,I couldn't agree more.There truly is a special place in Hell for those who harm children.

      November 13, 2010 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
  8. tiddle

    This is ridiculous. Free speech does not mean free-for-all. There are limits that you can't go there. Amazon just gives me another reason to go to my local bookstores for the upcoming holiday season. I'm gonna stay away from Amazon until and unless Amazon apologizes for giving these sicko a platform and voice.

    November 11, 2010 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Amazon has no reason to apologize. "Free speech does not mean free-for-all"? Tell that to Swift

      November 11, 2010 at 10:44 am | Report abuse |
    • rkp

      Really? Where does it say that we can say what we want when we want, so long as some puritanical maniac doesn't object? Where does it say that we MUST censor ourselves in order to make you feel better? WHERE?

      Oh, that's right, it DOESN'T say that! That's right. People who find this objectionable (I among them) have as much right to tear it down, as he does to publish it.

      Yeah, that's right, sicko's and non sickos alike all breathe the same air, and can say what they want! So, why don't all of you come down off your high horses and take this issue to the source, not the messenger.

      Of course, I say this, but it doesn't matter, bigots, and idiots alike will say and do what they want thinking the laws are just for them and not for the source of their rage.

      Yeah, go America...

      November 11, 2010 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • KKKKKatie

      Just because we can say something, doesn't mean we should.

      November 11, 2010 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • johnjellymaine

      no no no tiddle is right here. we do have freedom of speech but this is a book tryin to say how to correctly be a pedophile. you got to be kidding me.... here's the right way to be a pedophile... go to your medicine cabnet (or drawer witch you have) find every pill you can in there and take them.. all..... then chase it with a fifth a vodca and you are the best pedophile i've ever heard of.

      November 11, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Judy Nelson

    This was sent to Amazon this AM: After the Anderson Cooper story it was my intention to end my service relationship with your company. First I looked to see if The Pedophiles Guide Too Love & Pleasure had been removed and that appears to be the case. While I totally respect freedom of speech, rights end when plots are promoted to harm and destroy our children. That is the difference. I trust this type of sickness will no longer be promoted by your company because I enjoy doing business with you. Thank you for removing the guide. Judy

    November 11, 2010 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Coco

      Judy I completely agree there should be a line because it's ridiculous that innocent children have to suffer and then dont get appropriate justice because hes teaching pedophiles to get lighter sentences because they didnt "penetrate or harm a child" it hurts no matter what is done and the lifelong damage it does is horrible and speaking as a victim who didnt get justice that hurts worse, knowing there out there and can hurt you or other children again. pedophiles get to light of a sentence as it is why should they get even lighter sentences while the victims suffer for life!

      November 11, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Capey

    Has anyone actually READ the book in question? If you haven't, then you're just as bad as people burning Harry Potter books without even reading them. I can't find any reviews online from someone who has actually READ this book. There might be some on Amazon's website but the site for the book has been taken down. Could someone please post a link to an intelligent, objective non-knee jerk reaction review of this book? I agree with Amazon's statement. They shouldn't be banning anything at all just because people don't like it. Crime novels are basically how to books for criminals. The only reason they don't get a bad wrap is because it presents the actual crime in a negative context. In other words, if this guy wrote a fiction novel that incorporated the beliefs in his "how to" book, it probably would not have raised the amount of controversy it's generating in its current form.

    November 11, 2010 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
    • level headed

      You sir are an idiot, plain and simple

      November 11, 2010 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Yoda

      Well its not a non-fiction book about Wizards. It could be the greatest written book of all time , that doesn't mean it is not in poor taste – to say the least

      November 11, 2010 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • COncerned

      You must be one of them, how can you even write this, if it involves hurting children or any one at all it needs to be taken out, how can you even try to encourage any one to read this garbage.?

      November 11, 2010 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Capey

      This is the problem. I believe people are of the opinion that if they read the book they will somehow become a lesser person or something or be associated with pedophiles.
      You won't be.
      You WOULD be a lesser person if you read it AND USED the information in the book to molest some kid. If you read the book and posted a review about it, positive or negative, you're making an informed, intelligent and positive contribution to society. This isn't about pedophilia. It could be about how to murder puppies for all I care. The fact that people are bashing something they haven't even read is what I have a problem with.

      November 11, 2010 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • forsafeworld

      Do you seriously not get that these people are enabled by something like this, because it makes them feel "normal"? They think it justifies their feelings, and gives them confidence to act. By patting each other on the back and encouraging each other, someone who otherwise might feel guilty, becomes emboldened to actually harm a child. A book like this gives them a sense of validation, and is dangerous.

      November 11, 2010 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Capey

      I definitely agree that a book like this could give someone a sense of validation for their actions. However, does that mean that society should determine whether or not the book should be available to that person or anyone else at all? There are people who would read this book who would be utterly disgusted by its content. There are other people who would (unfortunately) use the content to their advantage. Yet others would read the book from a completely objective point of view. It really depends on the person who reads it. People will take what they want from any information they receive and use it how they see fit, whether it be legal or illegal.
      Also, I'm guessing you might be able to control the information itself to save people from being abused, but I honestly doubt it. If someone writes something, it's going to get out somehow. Amazon selling the information just makes the information easier to obtain.
      Amazon also doesn't seem to think books on how to grow Marijuana are much of a problem. A search on marijuana growing yields over 400 results. If Amazon states that it does not sell books to enable illegal activity, then why are books with instructions on how to grow an illegal substance available?

      November 11, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • kat

      You are an idot, and problely sick yourself people who hurt a child in any form should be hung on stoned to death and maybe we would see less of this. Going to jail for a few yrs is not enough. If you cant see the problems with that book you need help.

      November 11, 2010 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maggie

      You sir are an idiot! Plain and simple no kidding!!

      November 12, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Margie

      You must be the pedophile grand wizard. Who else do you hate besides children?

      November 12, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Capt. Obvious

      I agree. When "Lolita" was published, it was about a pedophile and his relationship with his stepdaughter, and how he married the girl's mother just to be close to Lolita. It was a 'how to.' And you're right, every CSI, SVU, Law and Order, is a how-to for criminals.
      Also, there are lots of things that are distasteful yet are condoned in the most widely read and published book in the world child-marriage, murder, incest and slavery – most of these can be found in the Bible and are written about either as a 'how to' or in a positive light.
      Just because something is distasteful, or even illegal, does not mean it should forever be hidden and censored from public view. We have the right to say hateful things about and defame the author, yet we deny the author the ability and platform to discuss an issue which we all want to either ignore and pretend isn't happening, or completely overreact to even the mention of the problem.

      November 12, 2010 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diane

      One does not have to be sprayed by a skunk to know one stinks. In other words one does not have to read such trash to be informed enough about it if reliable sources have told one what is in it.

      December 29, 2010 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Jana

    May God help us all. Everything has become acceptable in this world. Yes we have freedom of speech but this is not freedom of speech here. There is something very wrong with an individual that would write a book about the do & don't of molesting an innocent child. Frankly there is something wrong with the Editor, Publisher, Retailer and any buyer of such a book. You can't teach a pedophile how to not hurt a child. Any child that is molested is scarred for life...period. I am not a victim myself but I am a mother. Any parent out here knows that that is your worst fear. This is sick and I am appalled. Amazon should be ashamed of themselves.

    I will never buy anything else from Amazon

    November 11, 2010 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      The bible says my slave is alright; Swift suggests I eat my child; Nabokov agrees of Socrates. Maybe we should just burn em all?

      Anyone boycotting Amazon over this is an idiot and is no worse than the person at the end of their finger. Few have read it, yet so many despise it? All of you are losers incapable of understanding (or atleast attempting to understand) social context.

      And those defending their unwaranted nature due to them "being parents?" You are horrible parents teaching your children to literally judge a book by its cover–especially in such a dramatic manner.

      It's a sad day for literature

      November 11, 2010 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Coco

      Jana I am so glad you've never had to go through that pain! I was not so lucky i had to face my abuser everyday and it was horrible and when i tried to tell nobody believed me so i had to see that person every day for 3 quarters of a school year with him knowing i told! it was horrible i blocked most of it out! I Pray to God that your children Never experience that pain or any children but thats to optimistic! The statistics say 1 in 4 girls are abused in their lifetime and i think its like 1 in 8 boys are abused in their lifetime.I pray this book doesnt change those statistics for the worse!

      November 11, 2010 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Youaregettingwarmer

      Daniel, stop using Swift as an example. His essay was SATIRE, and is in no way comparable to the abomination being discussed here.

      November 11, 2010 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • kat

      Jana I agree with you 100% we need tougher laws like hanging them in public, or cut there hands off sounds sick but they deserve it . Ours laws is they go to jail for a few yrs. oh and register . This sick stuff is not going to stop with out severe laws

      November 11, 2010 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Margie

      You must be a pedophile too.

      November 12, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Pete

    I do think this was a type of sting operation. It also coincides with the busiest time of the year in terms of shopping. Hopefully it weeds out some offenders.

    November 11, 2010 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  13. TxCowgirl

    Why doesnt that author come to Texas, we dont need books to tell us how to deal with people like that!!!

    November 11, 2010 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      You guys don't need books?

      November 11, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Damned Liberal

      Yeah, we string 'em up, murder 'em, and then wait to find out - oops, we got the wrong one, pardner! Nuthin' like Tejas Justice to make sure everyone but the deserving guilty (that would be the Cowgirls who like to string 'em up high) "get the treatment" eh? Pathetic!

      November 11, 2010 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Skylar

    too little too late.....i will never buy anything from Amazon again......i totally believe in free speech, but this is not free speech this is disgusting and illegal instructions.....shame on you

    November 11, 2010 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Yeah...

      Did you read the book, or are you just assuming that there are illegal instructions inside?

      November 11, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Adam

    Most importantly, where can I find this book now?

    November 11, 2010 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Kat Nanton

      Why are you a pedophile and molester of little kiddies?

      November 11, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
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