November 10th, 2010
10:52 PM ET book defending pedophilia sparks boycott

A listing for 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure' is no longer on

[Updated at 10:52 p.m. ET] The title no longer appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers.

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] The listing for "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" is no longer available on The title still appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers at number 96, with 2,066 comments.

An e-book for sale on that appears to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulls the title.

Nearly 1,700 users who had commented on the title as of 9:40 p.m. ET deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the self-published title from the site. At least two Facebook  pages have been set up dedicated to boycotting Amazon because of the book.

The stated content appears to violate two of Amazon's content guidelines for digital publication. The company has not returned CNN's repeated requests for comment.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" said he published the controversial tome to address what he considers unfair portrayals of pedophiles in the media.

"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday.

When asked if the self-published e-book was a "how-to manual," he said, "there are certain parts that are advisory," which set out lines that should not be crossed.

"Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem," he said.

The Pueblo, Colorado, man told CNN that he has not had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but did when he was a teenager. He also said he "was introduced to oral sex when I was 7" by an older female but did not provide specifics.

In the title's product description, Greaves described it as "my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian [sic] rules for these adults to follow.

"I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught," he said.

Most users who commented on the title said they deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the title.

"It is ILLEGAL to molest children, and for Amazon to promote such is insane. I'm an abuse survivor, and am OUTRAGED Amazon would choose to promote this nonsense. I will not be purchasing anything from your website until this is removed," one user wrote in a comment echoed by others.

Others lamented they could not give the book less than "one star" in submitting their reviews, saying they would shop elsewhere during the holiday season.

"Cannot believe that Amazon is selling this. I was in the middle of placing my whole Christmas shopping order when I saw something about this. After reviewing it, I have canceled my order from Amazon and am encouraging all of my friends not to order from Amazon because they are choosing to sell this book. I will not be purchasing anything from Amazon until they agree to quit selling this book," another user said.

Amazon did not return CNN's requests for comment, but one user posted what it said was Amazon's response to an e-mail the person had sent.

"Let me assure you that does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."

" believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable."

The company's website provides content guidelines for titles sold through its Digital Text Platform Program. The guidelines say publishers are expected to conduct proper research to ensure that titles are in compliance with all local, state, national and international laws.

"If Amazon Digital Services, Inc. determines that the content of a Title is prohibited, we may summarily remove or alter it without returning any fees. Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to make judgments about whether or not content is appropriate," the guidelines state.

Pornography, offensive material and "titles which may lead to... illegal activity" are among the prohibited content listed in the guidelines.

What Amazon deems offensive, "is probably about what you would expect" the guidelines state, without elaboration, except to say that, "Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to determine the appropriateness of Titles sold on our site."

A few users defended the author's right to free speech, and a discussion on the site titled "Why Amazon is Right" delved into the constitutional implications of the controversy.

"While I think 99.9 percent of us object to pedophilia (even though I think this particular book was a publicity stunt/joke), I think we can all agree that we don't want someone else censoring a subject matter that we may be interested in. Religion, atheism, homosexuality, etc. are some subjects that spring to mind ... and they have been censored in the past until we realized that it's best to let all information in (even if we don't like some of it), rather than allow some authority or individual decide what we can and can't know about based on their own opinions or motivations," one user wrote.

The author has three other titles on under his name. They are available on the e-reader, Kindle, and all were published within the last week.

Greaves described himself as a former nurses' aid and in-home health care provider who is retired and on disability for "manic depression." He said he first began writing as a child and hopes to continue doing so full time.

But conspiracy theories over the book abound, with commenters citing it as a publicity stunt, a hoax, or perhaps a law enforcement sting.

"People... Relax... This book is obviously promoted by Amazon per request of FBI in order to track down and catch pedophiles. This book is obviously a bait for the sickos that are lurking around out there trying to prey on our children."

soundoff (568 Responses)
  1. snurfles

    I laugh at those of you who cry "freedom of speech" and then tell those of us who are offended by pedophiles that we have no right to boycott this book. Just like it's illegal to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre, this book is promoting illegal activity and the worst kind of illegal activity at that. Pedophiles are sick monsters who should all have their genitals cut off and be prohibited from being around any human being under 18 years of age. This is not about free speech people. This is about a criminal who is publishing a book about illegal activity on a site that is seen and used by millions around the world. If some of those people are offended by the author and subject matter of this book then they have every right to boycott it. So, don't tell me to shut up or that I'm what's "wrong with America" simply because I care about children.

    November 11, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Well unfortunately, you are what's wrong with America. You represent a small fraction of the irrationality lingering in our poplulation.

      November 11, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kat Nanton

      Actually, Daniel, you are what's wrong with America–pedophiles who believe it is their right to abuse our children and write a primer for other pedos to follow in techniques to abuse and how to avoid a lengthy jail sentence for your sick and unspeakable acts. You do represent a small fraction of parasitic beings in our population but a dangerous fraction, nonetheless.

      November 11, 2010 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      And this is more of the problem I'm talking about. I'm not defending pedophiles, I'm defending rational thought and allowing people a fair chance to examine a book fully before tearing it to shreds. Oh and I'm not a pedophile you jack ass

      November 11, 2010 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  2. GillenH20

    Usually, I would stand up for the anti-censorship, freedom of speech rights for even those I despise (Nazis, for example), but I am just not able to do so with this particularly depraved, evil group. These MAMBLA types are so sick and twisted that I just want them and all the absurd rhetoric that they have to share, to simply up and disappear from this planet. What sort of sicko would write such a horrid book? What sort of unethical oppurtunist would then publish this trash?

    November 11, 2010 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  3. KatyaKatya

    Several people said to others here "you are what's wrong with America".
    Now stop and think.

    November 11, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Try not to take ALL of it out of context. I was saying "you" as in the majority of irrational people now flooding America's voice.

      November 11, 2010 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Maggie

    I'm going to write a book on how to abuse, I mean "love" a pedophile and how to do it without getting caught or at least getting a "liter" sentence.

    November 11, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • WILnotCO

      Lucky for us, you have the right to do so!

      November 11, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • AJ

      You tell 'em maggie.....I Couldnt have said it better!

      November 11, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heather

      As someone who was abused as a child, I agree that the author of this book does deserve nothing but "love" as he disgustingly put it. I AM SURE THERE ARE SOME REAL NICE GUYS IN PRISON WHO COULD SHOW HIM THAT LOVE! I think everyone who has anything to do with this book should be punished as criminals

      November 11, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  5. WILnotCO

    Yeah Freedom of speech! .... except when ... and freedom of religion ... except for ... and all men are created equal ... except if they are ... LMAO! Ahh the land of the free, I mean majority! Careful which rights you eliminate, yours may be next!

    November 11, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Rich

    Hope the FBI has tagged Daniel's IP address. You have some issues!

    November 11, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Why? Because I've made countless valid points on how people are overreacting?

      Love how people are pointing fingers at me now... just goes to show how eager everyone is for any sort of witch hunt.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |

    "CNN welcomes a lively and courteous discussion as long as you follow the Rules of Conduct set forth in our Terms of Service" So why was my comment not posted? False advertising. CNN sucks. <- let's see if that makes it.

    November 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Tarheel1965

    We live in a society where freedom of speech is permitted (written and otherwise), but that doesn't mean that Amazon shouldn't take the moral high road and refuse to make trash such as this available for purchase through its website. Amazon you are nothing more than an enabler. I am most disappointed in Amazon and will need to carefully reconsider whether or not to make future purchase through them.

    November 11, 2010 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |

    hmmm... maybe the moderator thought that "obfuscation" was a bad word?

    November 11, 2010 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  10. SHRIKE

    Daniel your attempts to speak rationally to a bunch of one-track christian slot cars is in vain. I applaud the attempt however. Don't feel bad though, you have to remember that there is still a huge percentage of Americans who don't believe that evolution is real. So there's limited material to work with.

    November 11, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      I appreciate that. I have a bachelors in English Lit. so you might say I take it to heart when people start on book burning ventures. It's very disheartening when you mention things like Lolita and Swift which should trigger quite a number of reasons why this book could be taken differently, but of course no one here is generally educated enough on the subject to understand.

      Oh well though, I tried. It's becoming more and more dissappointing the further muffled our voices or rationality are becoming.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maggie

      I'm not a Christian. I believe in spirituality, but not religious at all. I'm about as far left as you can get, but just as the author has a right to write this POS, I along with MANY others, have the right to protest. The majority did so in the most impactful hurting the bottom line and hurting a giant's brand image. Amazon did the right thing by pulling this book. One day, Daniel, I hope you have children and have a change of perspective. Not taking about changing your mind altogether, but a change in perspective that puts our children FIRST. Our children today need more protection than ever due to the ever-evolving criminals out there. We don't need anymore victims.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yoda

      I am Atheist and the notion that this book is the next Lolita is ridiculous. Just because they are both in controversy does not make them the same situation.

      The author is not even leaving the door open that there is a deeper meaning to the book.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      I'm sorry Yoda, but you missed my point. I wasn't suggesting they both be grouped as literary masterpieces. I've merely suggested that they both could provide similar insights; I was simply using Lolita as a parallel reference.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yoda

      Right , but it is just a poor parallel. There is no ambiguity as to where the story came form or if the main character is actually the author when the author states: "Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem,"

      The biggest problem I have is along with your poor example , you have insulted everyone that disagrees with you. I have wanted to, oh boy i have, call you an idiot or moron as well

      November 11, 2010 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maggie

      Thank you, Yoda! Daniel is clearly trying to flex his literary muscle but not doing such a good job. And, bashing and getting frustrated over the literary parallels of certain books does not make you sound intelligent or educated. Really, please, get over yourself and let's just agree to disagree. Go buy and read the book if it so interests you. We, the so-called uneducated, will keep advocating for children, no matter how stupid we seem to you.

      November 11, 2010 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yoda

      Nabokov is rolling in his grave saying: "Please Daniel do not lump me in the same category as the NAMBLA handbook author."

      November 11, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • SHRIKE

      Children are over rated. And I don't recall Daniel ever saying that he didn't advocate for the safety of children.

      November 11, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maggie

      He may not have said that, but he just can't seem to rationalize why so many are upset by this and why it's wrong. Shrike: I hope you never have children, and, if you do, best of luck to THEM, not you. THEY will need it.

      November 11, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • SHRIKE

      @Maggie. Very judgemental. you must be christian.

      November 11, 2010 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Daniel, a bachelors, and in english lit?? And that makes you a superiorly educated and rational man? I'd bet almost everyone posting here has a bachelors degree.

      November 11, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • SciGuy

      Agreed. Daniel thanks for fighting the good fight. I understood where you were going with your argument.

      I got a kick out of all the people who immeadiately branded you a pedophile during your argument against censorship. Reading comprehension goes a long way people.

      November 12, 2010 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
  11. JustAGirl

    Well I just shared this with my mother and she will no longer be purchasing anything from Amazon (though she had previously planned on doing some Christmas shopping on their site).

    November 11, 2010 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  12. SHRIKE

    I will still buy from Amazon. Just not the pedophile book, because that is my right as a consumer. I fail to understand why I should be making moral judgements about a company that sells stuff. If you don't like, don't buy it.

    November 11, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Doyareelycare

    While we have freedom of speech it is not limitless nor 1-sided. There are limitations to speech (any form) when it conflicts with others rights or values. There is the harm principle that sets limits on what is expressed (any form) especially when the expression is offensive or even when it expressly contains instructions that could cause harm to citizens. Apparently no one cares what happens to children anymore because this book and amazon is clearly promoting pedophilia. If amazon cared about anything other than a few dollars "not principle or good business sense". I don't get why this guy or amazon haven't been served because they are both offensive and uncivil for promoting pedophila.

    November 11, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Yoda

    Freedom of Speech was granted when he wrote his little handbook.

    Now we are having the freedom to speak that we care not see the NAMBLA handbook sold on Amazon.

    And just because Amazon does or doesn't want to sell it, this is not infringing on the authors freedom of speech.

    November 11, 2010 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Margo Treat

    I canceled orders with Amazon. Got a curt reply. One book was already shipped so "just return it and we will refund within a month." Since our selections show a conservative view I think they are glad to be rid of our "ilk"..Was customer for 10 or more yrs.

    November 11, 2010 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • SHRIKE

      I was just going to ignore your post as egotistical ignorance. But the fact that you sound sincere in your belief that out of Amazon's millions of customers, that they wasted even a moment of thought on your conservative preferences or your cancelled order I find hilarious. [unqualified sense of self-importance]

      November 11, 2010 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
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