November 10th, 2010
10:52 PM ET book defending pedophilia sparks boycott

A listing for 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure' is no longer on

[Updated at 10:52 p.m. ET] The title no longer appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers.

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] The listing for "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" is no longer available on The title still appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers at number 96, with 2,066 comments.

An e-book for sale on that appears to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulls the title.

Nearly 1,700 users who had commented on the title as of 9:40 p.m. ET deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the self-published title from the site. At least two Facebook  pages have been set up dedicated to boycotting Amazon because of the book.

The stated content appears to violate two of Amazon's content guidelines for digital publication. The company has not returned CNN's repeated requests for comment.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" said he published the controversial tome to address what he considers unfair portrayals of pedophiles in the media.

"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday.

When asked if the self-published e-book was a "how-to manual," he said, "there are certain parts that are advisory," which set out lines that should not be crossed.

"Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem," he said.

The Pueblo, Colorado, man told CNN that he has not had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but did when he was a teenager. He also said he "was introduced to oral sex when I was 7" by an older female but did not provide specifics.

In the title's product description, Greaves described it as "my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian [sic] rules for these adults to follow.

"I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught," he said.

Most users who commented on the title said they deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the title.

"It is ILLEGAL to molest children, and for Amazon to promote such is insane. I'm an abuse survivor, and am OUTRAGED Amazon would choose to promote this nonsense. I will not be purchasing anything from your website until this is removed," one user wrote in a comment echoed by others.

Others lamented they could not give the book less than "one star" in submitting their reviews, saying they would shop elsewhere during the holiday season.

"Cannot believe that Amazon is selling this. I was in the middle of placing my whole Christmas shopping order when I saw something about this. After reviewing it, I have canceled my order from Amazon and am encouraging all of my friends not to order from Amazon because they are choosing to sell this book. I will not be purchasing anything from Amazon until they agree to quit selling this book," another user said.

Amazon did not return CNN's requests for comment, but one user posted what it said was Amazon's response to an e-mail the person had sent.

"Let me assure you that does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."

" believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable."

The company's website provides content guidelines for titles sold through its Digital Text Platform Program. The guidelines say publishers are expected to conduct proper research to ensure that titles are in compliance with all local, state, national and international laws.

"If Amazon Digital Services, Inc. determines that the content of a Title is prohibited, we may summarily remove or alter it without returning any fees. Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to make judgments about whether or not content is appropriate," the guidelines state.

Pornography, offensive material and "titles which may lead to... illegal activity" are among the prohibited content listed in the guidelines.

What Amazon deems offensive, "is probably about what you would expect" the guidelines state, without elaboration, except to say that, "Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to determine the appropriateness of Titles sold on our site."

A few users defended the author's right to free speech, and a discussion on the site titled "Why Amazon is Right" delved into the constitutional implications of the controversy.

"While I think 99.9 percent of us object to pedophilia (even though I think this particular book was a publicity stunt/joke), I think we can all agree that we don't want someone else censoring a subject matter that we may be interested in. Religion, atheism, homosexuality, etc. are some subjects that spring to mind ... and they have been censored in the past until we realized that it's best to let all information in (even if we don't like some of it), rather than allow some authority or individual decide what we can and can't know about based on their own opinions or motivations," one user wrote.

The author has three other titles on under his name. They are available on the e-reader, Kindle, and all were published within the last week.

Greaves described himself as a former nurses' aid and in-home health care provider who is retired and on disability for "manic depression." He said he first began writing as a child and hopes to continue doing so full time.

But conspiracy theories over the book abound, with commenters citing it as a publicity stunt, a hoax, or perhaps a law enforcement sting.

"People... Relax... This book is obviously promoted by Amazon per request of FBI in order to track down and catch pedophiles. This book is obviously a bait for the sickos that are lurking around out there trying to prey on our children."

soundoff (568 Responses)
  1. John Q. Public

    That book does not have a place on any shelf. I'm suprised some editor actually accepted to publish that. But Amazon accepting to distribute a guide to hurt our children? They also sell Mein Kampf. And perhaps tommorow, they will distribute "a terrorist guide to nuclear weapons and killing Americans".... why not, while were at it? Is this the american dream?

    November 10, 2010 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
  2. trixen

    "I may not agree with what you have to say but will defend to the death your right to say it." – Voltaire

    November 10, 2010 at 9:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lana Gee

      I wouldn't die to defend the "right"of potential child molester authors , in fact I believe they should be silenced

      November 11, 2010 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
  3. AntiIgnorant

    I think Halo birthday party goods are a symbol of what is truly dangerous to our kids – much more than some stupid book that somebody published to get a rise out of idiots.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
  4. People, people

    Amazon is a private company. They'll do with the book what they will and the law doesn't really make an entrance here. Talk with your bank account; if you don't like pedophilia (and I know none of us here do), don't buy it.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Think-about-it


    I knew it! I knew once society accepted gays as people being considered "normal" that they would eventually say that pedophiles are normal too. Yep...I can see it now....

    A pedophile gets on a NEAR FUTURE talk show network television program and cries about how people treat him differently (the crowd shows shock); how people discriminated against him (the crowd gasps); how he could not love whom he wanted (the crowd shows disgust); how the system was unfair (the crowd agrees); how his rights were violated (the crowd chants in agreement); how he was born that way (the crowd applauds); how society treats him as an outcast (the crowd shows support); how his behavior was once considered illegal and people were once arrested......SOUND FAMILIAR? Once gay people were treated like this and now society accepts them.

    Get ready for the future of America! Sick people beget sick behavior. You should be ashamed!

    November 10, 2010 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sausage

      It took me all of 10 seconds to " think about it" – and my conclusion is that you're an absolute moron.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Think-about-it

      Hey Sausage....Thanks for a deficient post without any factual or logical basis to support your objection. I am pleased that you are unable to dispute anything I said, except to throw childish insults. When you have something that factually changes the argument please post it.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oonai

      There is a HUGE difference between being gay and being a pedo. Come on people, don't be stupid. Being gay is about consentual relationships between adults. The whole "next there will be people marrying animals/pedo's will be accepted" is just crap! An animal or child CANNOT give informed consent.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bucks12965

      I don't mind if gays move in all around me. At least I wouldn't have to worry about one of my neighbors trying to molest my child.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Sister Carol

    It used to be ILLEGAL to be Gay, also. When will people learn you have to draw the line somewhere, or else NOWHERE. Next it'll be Moms having $ex with sons & daughters, dads and daughters and sons too. Then Animals & people, why not just screw anything and everything that exists?? Oh, but this is AMERICA, right? Anything is fair game now. If you are repulsed by this, well get over it !! Now you know how some of us straight people feel about being Gay.... Hope you enjoy it ....... We live with that same revulsion everyday we see it on tv or in the news. The degradation of America. Sickening, yet we get shouted down if we don't accept it. Maybe some people were BORN TO BE PEDOFILES..... THEY CANT HELP IT !!!! SOUND FAMILIAR ???

    November 10, 2010 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • steeve-o

      The huge difference is that being gay has no victims involved. People can be gay without hurting anyone.

      November 10, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oonai

      Adults can give consent – animals and children cannot. Your arguement is just rubbish!

      November 10, 2010 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
  7. McA

    @ The_Mick & those who will continue on w/Amazon – Hope you saved lots of $$$ and have a great Xmas!

    @Those who have been abused – you have my deepest sympathy. I can understand how upsetting this book must be for you.

    @ All others- Maybe this book would be informative in finding out what lines the peds use in order to forewarn the children that are out there.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
  8. steeve-o

    This illustrates the issue with faceless retailers like, where no one person could take responsibility for what is being sold. You wouldn't find this at your local book store, because the person stocking the shelves has morals, and knows they have to personally address any issues with what people find in their store.
    You know what I do? I look up the books I want on Amazon, find the ISBN number, and take that number to my local bookstore and order it from them.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
  9. candytree

    i bet anyone 100000 dollars that this is just a joke.
    i know there are books like that out there, but this is the most ham-handed attempt ever..maybe not so much since everyone is so riled up!! 😀

    November 10, 2010 at 9:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bucks12965

      OHH, I get it now. I'm still laughing! Funniest joke ever!

      November 10, 2010 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
  10. LA reader

    Amazon is a business, and not selling certain extreme materials would not be censorship (they are not a government). Amazon has also ignored requests not to sell books that advocate extreme physical punishments of children, for example, the books written by Michael and Debi Pearl which advocate hitting children virtually from birth, pulling the hair of nursing babies, etc. Barnes & Noble stopped selling these books after complaints.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bucks12965

      Your point is valid. Time will tell if they change their stance after enough people like me stop shopping their site.

      November 10, 2010 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Misstrixie

    Maybe Amazon is working with the FBI and every pervert that orders this book will get arrested.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Head Elf

      But then the republicans would lose their control of the House again. Do you want that to happen?

      November 10, 2010 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
  12. thinking

    As a parent the thought of this book is horrifying. But if it IS a how-to in a way reading it could put a person one step ahead of the predator?...if I guess one could stomach reading it.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
  13. A Davidson

    Come on people. If you're not interested in the book, don't buy it!!!

    November 10, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Burt

    If it was a rights thing, it would also be a legal thing and I am quite sure Amazon's lawyers have made or will make a determination about that. It's about brand. Amazon probably and of course has the right to sell that book, but it's up to Amazon to decide if it wants to be a brand that censors it's book selection or a brand that doesn't do that kind of thing. So, ask yourself, would you like to shop at a bookstore that censures it's selection? Slippery slopes are slippery, and the truth of it is, the people who griped and made this a national story, vastly increased this author's reach and this book's sales and influence.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
  15. eldono

    Don't go after Amazon. That's not the source. Those who want to go after Amazon are not seeing the bigger picture. Go after the author of the book. EXPOSE HIM, or THEM. Amazon isn't the source, THEY are.

    November 10, 2010 at 9:50 pm | Report abuse |
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