November 10th, 2010
10:52 PM ET book defending pedophilia sparks boycott

A listing for 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure' is no longer on

[Updated at 10:52 p.m. ET] The title no longer appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers.

[Updated at 10:47 p.m. ET] The listing for "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" is no longer available on The title still appears in Kindle's Top 100 Paid Bestsellers at number 96, with 2,066 comments.

An e-book for sale on that appears to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulls the title.

Nearly 1,700 users who had commented on the title as of 9:40 p.m. ET deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the self-published title from the site. At least two Facebook  pages have been set up dedicated to boycotting Amazon because of the book.

The stated content appears to violate two of Amazon's content guidelines for digital publication. The company has not returned CNN's repeated requests for comment.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct" said he published the controversial tome to address what he considers unfair portrayals of pedophiles in the media.

"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday.

When asked if the self-published e-book was a "how-to manual," he said, "there are certain parts that are advisory," which set out lines that should not be crossed.

"Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem," he said.

The Pueblo, Colorado, man told CNN that he has not had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but did when he was a teenager. He also said he "was introduced to oral sex when I was 7" by an older female but did not provide specifics.

In the title's product description, Greaves described it as "my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian [sic] rules for these adults to follow.

"I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter [sic] sentences should they ever be caught," he said.

Most users who commented on the title said they deplored its publication and vowed to boycott Amazon until it removes the title.

"It is ILLEGAL to molest children, and for Amazon to promote such is insane. I'm an abuse survivor, and am OUTRAGED Amazon would choose to promote this nonsense. I will not be purchasing anything from your website until this is removed," one user wrote in a comment echoed by others.

Others lamented they could not give the book less than "one star" in submitting their reviews, saying they would shop elsewhere during the holiday season.

"Cannot believe that Amazon is selling this. I was in the middle of placing my whole Christmas shopping order when I saw something about this. After reviewing it, I have canceled my order from Amazon and am encouraging all of my friends not to order from Amazon because they are choosing to sell this book. I will not be purchasing anything from Amazon until they agree to quit selling this book," another user said.

Amazon did not return CNN's requests for comment, but one user posted what it said was Amazon's response to an e-mail the person had sent.

"Let me assure you that does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."

" believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable."

The company's website provides content guidelines for titles sold through its Digital Text Platform Program. The guidelines say publishers are expected to conduct proper research to ensure that titles are in compliance with all local, state, national and international laws.

"If Amazon Digital Services, Inc. determines that the content of a Title is prohibited, we may summarily remove or alter it without returning any fees. Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to make judgments about whether or not content is appropriate," the guidelines state.

Pornography, offensive material and "titles which may lead to... illegal activity" are among the prohibited content listed in the guidelines.

What Amazon deems offensive, "is probably about what you would expect" the guidelines state, without elaboration, except to say that, "Amazon Digital Services, Inc. reserves the right to determine the appropriateness of Titles sold on our site."

A few users defended the author's right to free speech, and a discussion on the site titled "Why Amazon is Right" delved into the constitutional implications of the controversy.

"While I think 99.9 percent of us object to pedophilia (even though I think this particular book was a publicity stunt/joke), I think we can all agree that we don't want someone else censoring a subject matter that we may be interested in. Religion, atheism, homosexuality, etc. are some subjects that spring to mind ... and they have been censored in the past until we realized that it's best to let all information in (even if we don't like some of it), rather than allow some authority or individual decide what we can and can't know about based on their own opinions or motivations," one user wrote.

The author has three other titles on under his name. They are available on the e-reader, Kindle, and all were published within the last week.

Greaves described himself as a former nurses' aid and in-home health care provider who is retired and on disability for "manic depression." He said he first began writing as a child and hopes to continue doing so full time.

But conspiracy theories over the book abound, with commenters citing it as a publicity stunt, a hoax, or perhaps a law enforcement sting.

"People... Relax... This book is obviously promoted by Amazon per request of FBI in order to track down and catch pedophiles. This book is obviously a bait for the sickos that are lurking around out there trying to prey on our children."

soundoff (568 Responses)
  1. Kim J.

    This isn't a freedom of speech issue–freedom of speech deals with government censorship. I will boycott Amazon for their CHOICE to sell this book. Just as Amazon has the right to choose to sell this book...I have the right to boycott Amazon. Anyone else who disagrees with Amazon's choice to promote illegal behavior should do the same.

    Amazon CHOOSING not to sell this book wouldn't be censorship...any more than a radio station CHOOSING not to play a song would be censorship. Amazon has chosen wrong in my opinion, and I will express my opinion by taking my business elsewhere.

    Hurray, Freedom!!!

    November 10, 2010 at 10:40 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Kim J.

    Oh, and Amazon hasn't taken it down as of this post–I just viewed it on their website.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
  3. kelly

    Cracks me up that people will boycott amazon for selling a book, yet still go to Catholic mass every sunday.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
  4. mb

    as much as i love living in a country with free speech, i do believe it is taken too far when we allow all speech to be included with that. we have to take a stand and say that enough is enough. it might seem cool to be tolerant of anything, but it is really just an excuse for not having enough guts to draw the line in the sand.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Politicked

      It's not about being tolerant or accepting of what they say it's recognizing their right to say whatever they want.

      Do I believe people need to own assault weapons? No. But do I support their right to bare arms? Yep.

      I was in the Marines, and as much as I hated the idea of wack job nuts protesting military funerals, you have to understand that that kid died protecting their right to do so.

      November 10, 2010 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      Maybe that "line in the sand" should be about changing the Age of Consent.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:29 am | Report abuse |
  5. cecelia m. carmelo

    I am just hearing that Elizabeth Smart is holding up welll in her testimony........why in the world is she having to testiy out loud in court for any one? yes, I still live here! and would defend this country USA, from anyone....

    November 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Glen

    if this book is protected under your first amendment, then maybe i'll write a book on how to commit mass murder of people and get away with it!!! this book that is the epitome of moral decay in your country. I am from Vancouver b.C Canada,
    where our government more or less uses comon sense in what we call allowable litterature , at least I hope so!

    November 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      "Allowable Literature?" Have you ever heard the word 'fascist?' This sounds like something straight out of George Orwell.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:27 am | Report abuse |
  7. elo123

    Why not sell a "How to Kill Americans" book..."How to kill pet dogs"...."How to terrorize the Massess"... see how Amazon likes that. How to be a Pedophile tops them all. DISGUST. How about "HOW TO KILL PEDOPHILES?"

    November 10, 2010 at 10:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • AJ

      Thank you, these people are sick and Amazon should be ashamed for giving this demon a platform to express his evil. @elo123: I think your alternative book suggestion is the best one yet!

      November 10, 2010 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      All of the hypothetical volumes you mention would be fine to publish. Just as with the pedobook, though, I would hope that somebody sues the pants off the author as soon as a crime is verified to have been caused by ideas endorsed by the book. I personally don't care what Amazon chooses to sell on their site, so long as it's legal. However, if you think it's that wrong for Amazon to publish these things, then I earnestly urge you to vote with your wallet and boycott them. Otherwise, it's all just a bunch of bloviating.

      November 11, 2010 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      @ Bimston: You were doing well there at first, touting American Freedom. Then you turned into the Thought Police from 1984. You can't have it both ways.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Bimston

      YBP: Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but it sounds like you're calling one citizen's right to sue another over perceived damages thoughtcrime. If you hadn't noticed, you can already do this in just about every free country. I hope the idea of financial damages isn't too foreign to you.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:42 am | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      Bim: Has anyone sued God lately for all the crimes He's inspired?

      November 11, 2010 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Minidow

      @YBP Billy Connoley

      November 11, 2010 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  8. Chance Barefoot

    At present, the book is not on Amazon's website – at least, I could not find it.

    I expect corporations to behave in a responsible way and to support and value the same things that most American's value. The safety of our children is very near the top of the list. It was irresponsible to create an outlet for material that could be used to harm our children.

    Amazon will do without my business until they can demonstrate that they are capable of being responsible. Removing the book, a public apology to the American people – especially to our children, and a generous contribution to the fight against the exploitation of children would be a good start to getting my respect and business back.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Liz

    Amazon is off my Christmas list. Free speech allows this trash to be written; but the publishers should know better than to promote it and Amazon should know better than to sell it–that was their choice and not buying from Amazon is my choice.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      That's American Freedom and American Capitalism that you're trashing, Miss Christian. You'd better think twice, or you're out of the Tea Party, and I mean it!

      November 11, 2010 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
  10. EC

    wow, was just about to order two books tonight from Amazon, going elsewhere

    November 10, 2010 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      Coloring books don't count. So go. And don't come back.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:21 am | Report abuse |
  11. Anne

    I just checked to see if they still advertised the book, and I couldn't bring it up. Thank goodness. Because if it was still on Amazon, I would have discontinued buying my books and music from Amazon. If that is considered free speech, then selling a book on Amazon on how to build bombs must be okay too. Are there no limits to free speech anymore?

    November 10, 2010 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      But Nazi books are OK, right?

      November 11, 2010 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
  12. Brad

    My question is.... how did they stumble upon a book like this in the first place? I don't think some of those Amazon shoppers are as innocent as they portray themselves to be.

    November 10, 2010 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heidi

      The book could have easily come up in a search a parent might have made trying to find guides on how to AVOID online predators. The search algorithms wouldn't know the difference.

      November 10, 2010 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Atchue

      This is EXACTLY what I was just thinking. Now people actually bought this book?

      November 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Sofa King Awesome

    by the have all these preachers touching lil kids(and for umpteen years before) and you idiots still stand behind them and still u give your moneyto these fake god loving ped's GO figure

    November 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Leslie G

      That's mainly in the Catholic church due to the stupid Catholic rulesw that don't allow men to get married...which by the way doesn't say it's forbidden in the bible.

      November 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • YBP

      @ Lesley: It's a problem in all churches, as well as in schools, the workplace, the military, politics, etc. Don't be so naive. Anytime and anywhere people are given power and influence over other people, there is abuse of this nature.

      November 11, 2010 at 2:19 am | Report abuse |
    • mom_of_3

      @leslie...that's not true.Its going on in all kinds of churches. Open your eyes. It's not to say that all preachers of all walks of life are doing this....Im just saying that it does happen in any church regardless of denomination. And how in heck is this being pointed to churches anyway???? We are talking about a book that a nasty pervert wrote,the nasty perverts who published it & amazon for selling it on their site.

      November 11, 2010 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  14. Mr. E.

    It looks like this book's already been taken down. Amazon, it's too late. You've already lost my business forever. This is not a real book. It's a guide to raping little kids. It's not important information. It's a guide on how to molest innocent children. Free speech? Give me a break. It's a step-by-step rapist's guide.

    November 10, 2010 at 11:07 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Carla Young

    Thank you for clarifying what all of us hoped was an internet rumor gone amuck.

    Besides being appalled, enraged and fearful for our children, I am struck how many people flinging muck at Amazon (and yes, they deserve it and then some) are failing to see the point: our best defense against these predators is knowledge.

    So the little I can do to help is share this amazing post by New York City Crown Prosecutor Jill Starishevsky and author of the book "My Body Belongs to Me" in hopes it gets the message out to parents everyone who are as shocked as I am about this story.

    (Full disclosure: MOMeo Magazine is published by me)

    November 10, 2010 at 11:14 pm | Report abuse |
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