November 12th, 2010
07:25 PM ET

PETA wants Amazon to stop selling guides to dogfighting

PETA wants Amazon.com to stop selling books such as 'The Art of Cockfighting.'

The animal rights group PETA wants Amazon.com to stop selling books about dogfighting and cockfighting, saying the books encourage an illegal and harmful activity the way a recently removed title promoted pedophilia.

PETA said it sent a letter Friday to Amazon.com President Jeffrey P. Bezos, asking him to to pull products from the site that promote animal cruelty in light of the online retailer's decision this week to stop selling an e-book that offered guidelines to pedophilia.

"The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure" was pulled from Amazon.com late Wednesday, after thousands of angry users posted reviews to the listing condemning its publication and vowing to boycott the site.

PETA pointed out two books on Amazon.com, "The Art Of Cockfighting—A Handbook for Beginners and Old Timers" and "Dogs of Velvet and Steel," as examples of titles that encourage people to participate in illegal animal fighting.

"These books encourage people to become involved in dogfighting and cockfighting— cruel and illegal activities that are rampant across the country," PETA executive vice president Tracy Reiman said in the letter to Bezos.

"Animals, like children, depend on us to protect them and put their best interests above profits. Please, don't be complicit in cruelty to animals: Do the right thing and stop selling products that promote criminal violence against living beings."

PETA said the controversy over "The Pedophile's Guide" created the ideal climate for them to highlight animal fighting - an issue that's always on their radar.

"At a time when Amazon is coming out very publicly against books on pedophilia, this is a prime time for Amazon to step up and stop selling books that promote other illegal activity, like dogfighting and cockfighting," PETA spokeswoman Lindsey Rajt told CNN.

In fact, the two issues are "interconnected," Rajt said

"Animal abuse is one of the first warning signs we see in people who turn and direct violence toward people," she said. "This is really important because the twisted whims of people who enjoy watching animals fight to the death is not something Amazon should be catering to. There are greater societal implications."

Amazon.com did not return calls for comment.

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  1. quest7710

    ban everything in sight

    November 13, 2010 at 5:52 am | Report abuse |
  2. dude

    Groups can ask amazon to do what ever they want. Amazon has to determine what happens to their business if they make a bad decision relative to the folks the provide their revenue

    November 13, 2010 at 5:53 am | Report abuse |
  3. Austin B

    I wonder if PETA happened to remember to tell amazon to ban the recently published (and avail. on Amazon...spaking outrage) over a how-to manual for didlers (ie child molesters)?
    I forgot though...Peta would save a pitbull from a house fire before saving a human being.....
    (Yes, I know dog-fighting is terrible, but this damn special-interest group sticks its noses into everything it shouldnt)....very annoying....seems like so often they place preference of animals over that of their own brothers and sisters....

    November 13, 2010 at 6:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      What's your problem? Were you molested by PETA members as a child? Why the heck are you questioning whether PETA was telling Amazon about the pedophile book? It's a moot point. I could just as well go around asking if the Red Cross or the United Nations or etc etc was telling Amazon about it.... so what? Most people didn't even know about it, and some spoke up, sure. But it's no particular person or organization's responsibility.

      "I forgot though...Peta would save a pitbull from a house fire before saving a human being....."

      Oh good Lord...here we go yet again. Get it through your thick head, caring about animals IN NO LOGICAL WAY says anything about the level of care about human beings. For crying out loud... name me one organization you are interested in that doesn't directly help suffering humans, and I'll go on a rant about how they care more about X than humans, just so we're being fair...

      Special interest group? Of f***!ng course! That's what any organization like that is! Including many you would care about. What, does every single private organization out there have to take the interestst of everyone and everything into account? Is it not acceptable that an organization devotes resources to one area of issues? What's wrong with you.

      "seems like so often they place preference of animals over that of their own brothers and sisters"

      ...lol....if you're just gonna stand around and make wildly untrue claims about stuff, then just gtfo.

      November 13, 2010 at 6:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Quincy9

      "I forgot though...Peta would save a pitbull from a house fire before saving a human being"? Yes, of course they would because the organization deals strictly with animal welfare. We have other agencies to aid children in crisis. That was an ill-thought little rant. Remember kids, don't drink and type.

      November 13, 2010 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
  4. Quincy9

    I completely understand PETA's concerns and objections and agree to an extent. Problem is that if outcry from a group can get the pedo book 'banned' (OK, I think that we're all in agreement with that banning) or dog fight books off of the virtual shelves then it becomes the epitome of the proverbial 'slippery slope'. I know that it sounds a bit reactionary, but globally and throughout history a great many intellectual atrocities have grown from the very same seed. A society of free thinkers must be free to make choices whether they be moral, intellectual, political or spiritual. When it comes down to the wire this isn't such an easy issue.

    November 13, 2010 at 6:32 am | Report abuse |
  5. Tanzi

    Slippery slope, yeah I've heard, but I don't care. Kids and animals trump free speech for me when it comes to "how to" guides or entertainment videos about things that involve anyone other than consenting adults.

    November 13, 2010 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
  6. mimibo

    I applaud PETA for taking this step forward. This is part of their mission. PETA, the animals needs more organizations like you.

    November 13, 2010 at 6:45 am | Report abuse |
    • JRT

      Are you freaking nuts? PETA would save the pitbull from the fire just so they could euthanize it rather than find it a new home after. They kill THOUSANDS of domestics pets each year because it's CHEAPER to kill them than it is to re-home them.

      Since 1998, PETA has opted to “put down” 23,640 adoptable dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens instead of finding homes for them.

      PETA’s “Animal Record” report for 2009, filed with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, shows that the animal rights group killed 97 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year. During all of 2009, PETA found adoptive homes for just eight pets.

      Just eight animals - out of the 2,366 it took in. PETA just broke its own record.
      http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

      November 13, 2010 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
  7. Dave

    PETA consists of a bunch of crazies. They want to ban a book about dogs but mention nothing about the book condoning pedophilia Amazon had for sale last Thursday. Excuse me, go to go, my very butchered streak is burning on the BBQ..

    November 13, 2010 at 7:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Quincy9

      Wow! People really don't listen or think. PETA's mission is NOT the welfare of children. Any caring, thinking and feeling person would never want to hear of a child harmed and we have Federal, State and Local Government agencies that work to protect kids. You can't expect PETA comment on the subject anymore than you could expect them to comment on the housing market. THEY DEAL WITH ANIMAL WELFARE....NOT CHILDREN!

      November 13, 2010 at 7:45 am | Report abuse |
  8. SIH

    While I agree with the sentiment to ban pedophilia and animal cruelty books, the act itself sets a dangerous precedent. This should be obvious Amazon pulls one product, and sets the precedent that they will self censor, now pressure is being placed on them to expand this practice. Anyone who thinks it will stop here is naive, anyone who thinks it will stop "when it's logical" is also naive. Free speech does not just protect legal speech it protects all speech, even that which is illegal amoral and disgusting. The reason for this is simple, who do you want to draw the line between what is illegal but railing against an unjust law vs illegal and amoral?

    November 13, 2010 at 7:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Quincy9

      Believe I just said that 4 comments up.

      November 13, 2010 at 7:39 am | Report abuse |
  9. K.B.

    i really think pedo are viewed in a wrong matter as the book stated 99% of anyone related would never harm a child. Its a shame that amazon did decide to pull the book. Most men or women will not gree that they had or have thoughts of someone under the age of 18 without acting on them. whats wrong with haveing a class or club of people who have a hobbie of looking at "fine art"? your neigbor, bus driver and even law eforcement are mostly closet pedo fans. and they will never admit that they thought about it atleast onece in there life.

    November 13, 2010 at 7:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Quincy9

      Please tell me that you don't live within 10 miles of a school or any place that children might congregate.

      November 13, 2010 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      Whether you approve or not, pedo is still illegal. In this case, it's not like looking at fine art, it's like enjoying an afternoon smoking weed with your friends. You may not think it hurts anyone, but it's still against the law, and Amazon's policy dictates they couldn't sell a guide to that either.

      November 13, 2010 at 8:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      John. .Did you seriously liken pedo crimes to smoking pot with your friends?? You are the dumbest pos in a long time. And if you took a moment to notice ,Amazon does sell books promoting the ganja. You sir should hang yourself

      November 13, 2010 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      No, I compared a harmless legal activity to a harmless illegal activity (fine art watching vs. smoking weed... or, in the eyes of K.B., pedo). The point is that Amazon's policy will let you read about art all day, but if you want to learn how to do something illegal, you've got to find another bookstore.

      November 13, 2010 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Quincy9

      John, I, for one, get your analogy. Joe, there's really no reason or justification to attack someone for expressing their opinion as this is an open forum of ideas and ideals. You were pretty harsh.

      November 13, 2010 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      You are wrong, and all you needed to do to not be wrong was to search amazon and see that they do sell items that encourage and promote marijuana( thank god). You seem to be speaking on something( quite fervently ) that you have no idea of

      November 13, 2010 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Oh sorry I thought we were Talking about the freedom to express ones self. Sorry you don't like what I say. Take it or leave it , but honestly if I were in a room with someone that compared touching kids to smoking pot , I would feed them their teeth

      November 13, 2010 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Quincy9

      Joe, no need to 'take a tone'. The freedom that you rightfully profess is wonderful, but it can be exercised in a forum without belittling others.

      November 13, 2010 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
    • K.B.

      even if i did live within 10 miles of scools or kids im not or never been convicited of any crime. Not even a driving violition. My point was not all pedo (people who like underage art) are convicts or bad people. their have been statues made of young adults and teen and children for centries though out history. So why is it a problem now? You guys act like everyone whos into anyone under 18 is going to break the law. When in fact 99% of us dont and most of you are in denial. Everyone no matter what race what culture has hidden thoughts and members who belive the same thing i do. Is it scary? maybe but when you look behind you back just remember you bother, sister, neighbor, co-worker secritly likes fine art too!

      November 14, 2010 at 12:31 am | Report abuse |
  10. vizi

    first PETA publish what have you done good for society in last 10 yrs , how many animals did you actually take care of

    need to know how the money is spent for funding this organization , instead of going headless pointing fingers at websites

    November 13, 2010 at 7:38 am | Report abuse |
  11. James

    Here goes the slippery slope. First the abhorrent pedophile book now the dog fighting book, what's next? If you don't like the subject, DON"T READ IT!

    November 13, 2010 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
  12. John

    A bookstore deciding not to sell a book is not tantamount to an outright ban of a book. If you really want it, go find it somewhere else. When a company as large as Amazon decides to very publicly enforce a policy to not sell books promoting illegal activity, they put themselves into a very vulnerable position. PETA is simply seizing the opportunity to promote their (in this case) worthwhile cause. Amazon will likely have to acquiesce to their request due to the negative publicity that would come if they decide to sell some books that promote illegal activities but not others. Besides, it would make for very bad business to have someone calling you a puppy killer during the holiday shopping season.

    November 13, 2010 at 8:00 am | Report abuse |
  13. Joe America

    wow, what an anomaly!!! Reading all the blogs about this article.....so many "Liberals" disagreeing with so many "Liberals".

    November 13, 2010 at 8:01 am | Report abuse |
  14. Bruce

    This is EXACTLY why Amazon was so scared about pulling the Pedophile book. Their argument was that while this book made them sick (me too), yet once you cross over the line of free speech you open the door for pandoras box.

    November 13, 2010 at 8:11 am | Report abuse |
  15. Joe

    Well, the herd gets what the herd wants. Moo on a$$?oles the end is near

    November 13, 2010 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
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