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Federal agents find another border drug tunnel
U.S. authorities say they have discovered another extensive drug tunnel that stretches from a home in Tijuana, Mexico, to San Diego, California.
The half-mile tunnel, discovered Thursday morning in a warehouse in the Otay Mesa area of San Diego, is close to a similar one federal agents found earlier this month, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency said.
In that case, authorities seized about 30 tons of marijuana in what federal agents say is one of the largest marijuana seizures in U.S. history.
Agents have made several arrests in connection with Thursday's tunnel discovery, said Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for the customs agency.
Federal agents with the San Diego Tunnel Task Force also seized an undetermined amount of marijuana from a tractor-trailer in the area and have found more of the drug in the tunnel, Kice said.
Authorities said they will release more details about the incident at a news conference Friday afternoon.
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More lost tax revenue for California. ...oh, wait, no. You fools failed to pass P19. Idiots. I don't smoke the stuff, nor do I care ..but given that it looks certain for Cali to default on their current debt within the next two years, I bet there are going to be a pile of bondholders wishing it *were* legal, just so they could numb themselves for a little while! First, California gets the 9th circuit and all the insane decisions they've rendered, next they give up essentially free tax money coupled with a decrease in crime and prison load. Totally. Sign me right up to move there.
You don't live there so you needn't be so concerned.
@KidColon – we shouldn't be concerned because we don't live there??? That makes no sense. Isn't Cali a part of the US?
Huge Fallacy...that legalizing and taxing pot is going to create an enormous revenue for the states. The reality is that if use of pot goes up, use of liquor will go down proportionately, and the gain on one side will be offset to a great extent by the loss on the other side. There will probably be some gain, but not much. The real issue here is CONTROL...who owns your body and can dictate what you put in it.
That's the problem with this country. Everyone is self-centered and has no feelings towards anyone else when something bad happens UNTIL it affects you THEN all of the sudden you care more than anyone else and wonder why nobody else cares about you.
Yeah, but when you start talking about drugs, you start talking about moralists vs. libertarians. The moralists, the 'legal' people, steadfastly maintain that All Drugs Are Bad, And Must Therefore Be Prohibited, Because Government Knows What's Best For You, Little Citizen(in most condescending tone possible). And then, you have the libertarian types, that say basically if you're doing something and you're not hurting anyone else, it's really not anyone else's business, including the government.
People get 'high' off a lot of things, daredevil thrill-seeking, prescription drugs, alcohol, and of course the cornucopia of illegal substances that somehow government can't quite manage to eradicate. Would legalization of things like marijuana
solve some problems? I think so. But, it might also put some people out of work, suddenly you've got criminal elements looking for a new source of support, and the people that used to be paid to chase and incarcerate them right behind em in the employment line, meanwhile the previous customer base has a pot plant on the front porch and there's no real fuss about whether you get high or not anymore. I say go for it! Legalize the stuff. People are smoking it anyway, even if it's illegal. Stop some taxpayer abuse, help stop organized crime in Mexico, and be more realistic about the whole situation.
If people want to get stoned, then let them get stoned. Maybe some people in government really don't like the idea, but the public doesn't like the idea of government trying to micromanage everyone's lives, either. We DO live in a free country, right? Ok, then.
But first, you're going to have to carve a lot of the nanny-statist socialists out of CA state government. They know what's best for you. And they'll make you do it. Even if it bankrupts the state. Why? Because they're a bunch of flat-out psychotic control freaks. And the thought of people just growing a pot plant in their own home, drying out the leaves, and smoking them, well, that just puts em in a lather.
Recall elections work, and if the citizens of the state of CA want pot to be legal, it'll happen. Other states have considered similar steps. For the people, by the people, of the people, not for the autocrat, by the autocrat, of the autocrat.
Don't you lovers of drug realize that there is tremendous cost in the treatment . . . if you would say no to treatment, then I will say yes to drugs. It is all part of being responsible for your own actions. But wait, liberals like to follow the Obama way and blame others.
Shut up! You're boring me!
Hey, try thetruth, A) your first sentence barely makes sense, and B) what treatment are you talking about that stems from marijuana? Clearly you're speaking without experience, research, or concern for anything but your daddy's opinions.
For all you right wingers out there. One of your past heros Newt Gingrich is all for legalizing marijuana. Why? The amount of money and jobs it would generate would be 2X the amount we spend on trying to fight it. You could build a wall along the US/Mexican border to keep out illegals with the income generated for one year. You would lower the amount of criminals in prison and their huge cost to taxpayers. Most idiots still believe that Marijuana is addictive, yet their precious alcohol and coffee are not, try to stop drinking coffee for a month, if you consume 3+ cups a day along with any other drinks that may have caffeine; Energy drinks, sodas( no wonder your kids run around like a chicken with its head cut off) and you will experience one of the worst weeklong headaches ever. Legalizing marijuana makes sense and that is why so many Americans are against it, they have no common sense.
I live in California, and absolutely love it. However, I do also agree that a lot of people have their heads up their asses and have no foresight to understand that we're headed for an economic train wreck. It's really a pity. I think California has been a role model leading the way for the rest of the country in every respect except the most important one: fiscal matters.
What has busted California's economy, #1 a real estate market that is hyper inflated + all the bad loans given to people with no means to pay them back = no tax income from real estate taxes, businesses leaving California because they can't afford it, Is it coincidence that cities in California that had the highest amount of foreclosures are agricultural cities, people trying to make a quick buck by subdividing their farms and turning the land into sprawling suburbs of illegals. #2 California's wanting to be a bilingual state, think of the costs of making everything bilingual from Drivers exams to School books, then on top of that the need for interpreters in your courts and prisons. #3 One of California's largest industries is tourism, Californians just voted down P21 which would have increased their vehicle registration fee $18.00 that money would have been used only for the materials needed to repair the parks and their facilities, not for increasing wages. Think about it $18.00, most people spend that kind of money on soft drinks every week. Yet they would not put that money towards something that would benefit the states overall economy.
marijuana is not a drug, it is a plant, plain and simple. It should be de-criminalized, and the prospective taxes off of it could pay down our debt!
It has never caused a death by overdose, nor anything. It is an all-natural plant, nothing more than a plain, weed.
Wake up America, Use the new income off of the taxes, use it for healthcare for all I care.
LEGALIZE WEED!
"marijuana is not a....."
Your stupidity knows no bounds.
You don't see the bodies floating down the river do you? lose a load lose a life dip s#&t. Grow up.....
What makes you think "natural" means "causes no harm"? Have you never heard of Deadly Nightshade, Hemlock, or even Poison Ivy? Most of our drugs come from "natural" plants and fungi. I tried marijuana in my youth and wouldn't want to be driving a car when high on it or alcohol. Please educate yourself.
@texasborder – grow up?... his thoughts are very grown up... chasing pot down is a waste of time.... legalize pot and tunnels like that don't need to be made; "tunnel task forces" don't need to be created; jail space is freed for more violent offenders and illegal aliens... And here's a breakdown of the money – $14B in tax revenue per year in California alone + another $10B – $12B per year in California alone in reduced costs for police, task forces, litigation and jail amenities; job creation in marketing, design, packaging, logistics, and farming.... Not to mention reduced crime fighting a drug war we can't win without actually going to war = more American soldiers dead....
But yea, have fun with the border wars in Texas and the massive debt and job loss in California for smoking a plant... I suppose we'll see you on the picket lines for the tobacco and alcohol companies too, right?...
blogger, 15 billion is alot higher than even the most liberal estimates. I do agree 100 percent that it should be legalized, but I have to wonder, what do the drug dealers do once their pot work goes away? They're not going to go out and get jobs.
Randy, please don't make arguments based on facts and reason.
This is THE DEVIL'S WEED we are talking about here, the scourge of mankind, and the cause of everything un-american.
Marijuana is evil and bad because, well, our government says so. And shouldn't that simply be enough proof for any right-minded american? After all, we all know that our government is good and all-knowing and always acts in the best interest of the people. Get with it, Randy.
and with all those people in California on drugs, this should be a tax windfall for the state.
" what do the drug dealers do once their pot work goes away? They're not going to go out and get jobs."
they have jobs. this isn't a top down criminal controlled enterprise. selling pot is not a full time job with vacations and medical care. it's just users selling to users
So according to you if it's a plant it's harmless? Than why don't we just legalize opium and cocaine. Just because it's a plant or made from plant doesn't make it safe. If that was the case we could just eat any old mushroom or berry out there. Right Randy?
OK You are scheduled for brain surgery and your surgeon is outside smoking a joint right before he does the operation...Is that really who you want doing your surgery ?
luv2putt – That is an idiotic argument. Would you want your surgeon going out and having a beer right before he/she operated? That's legal, it doesn't mean it is acceptable at the workplace. What you do on your free time is completely separate from what you do on company time.
@texasblogger- let me guess? you have some sort of job that benefits from the illegality of marijuana? Either you are a grower of medical marijuana which brings you a pretty penny, or you are a seller of illegal marijuana which brings you an even prettier penny? Of course it could be that you are a builder of Prisons, or furnish their supplies?. Maybe you're employed by the DEA, or the local law enforcement agency. Then again you may be a lawyer that defends drug cartel members or rich celebrities caught with marijuana in their possession. Marijuana is not hazardous to your health. Next time you start crying about to much government, why don't you start by legalizing marijuana, that will eliminate a lot of federal and state bureaucracy.
Will legalize weed actually lower drug related violence and crimes in California? It probably will not because drug cartels can easily re-concentrate their effort on other more deadly drug, although it definitely will increase California tax revenue.
My 2 cents...
The drug cartels will still have a cocaine and herion market so nothing will change with the cartels.
But there are far fewer idiots willing to try harder drugs such as cocaine etc.
Reminds me of the stories of moonshine runs from Canada during prohibition.
Legalize this chit – FINALLY
LEGALIZE CANNABIS in 2012!!! And there won't be anymore drug tunnels for cannabis. Problem solved.
so if they were religious they would be considered terrorists? and get the US to actually get serious about their neighbors... what if the real terrorists get wind of this? and start funding the cartels and sending over some RPG and such via mexico ....would that wake you up?
What makes you think they are not doing this already? Seems like the terrorists would be willing to use a system already in place to make entry into the US with their heavier weapons and explosives.It's not like the Mexican cartels have any qualms about promoting the use of violence and terror.
Isn't there some way to find these tunnels that is easier than looking through factories? Like Ground Penetrating Radar Systems.
There's a LOT of ground. Look outside.
that is probably how they know which factory to look at
The US probably has as many border tunnels as Israel does. The idea that border tunnels are used mainly for running drugs is laughable. If you have a problem with these tunnels, making drugs legal isn't the way to go about solving it.
Although cartels will have other drugs to market, legalizing weed will considerably reduce their income and ability to wage war against their government. Demonizing weed inhibits our ability to educate our kids about the very real dangers of truly harmful drugs like coke, meth, heroin, etc. If we're lying about the effects of weed, coke can't be that bad either; right?
Smoking weed is still bad for your health. Don't try to pass it off as being healthy. There are many health risks associated with it, just like smoking cigarettes.
Eating bacon everyday is bad for you. It should therefore be illegal.
hey, nobody gets out of here alive. if you are overweight, eat meat, smoke, drink or puff cigarettes, you got no standing to tell me how to run my life.
when PCP showed up, they said "all the things we said about marijuana are true about PCP and we regret that we exaggerated back then"
research Harry Anslinger and learn the truth about why pot is illegal
I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis based on my own personal experience, kids don't like being misinformed.
Hey kidkoala: A typical cigarette smoker goes through about a pack of cigarettes a day. Every day. Day after day after day. I think I would keel over dead halfway through one pack. But even on those rare occasions when I have a whole day to do nothing but chill, I MIGHT go through enough cannabis to make one or two cigarette-sized doobies. Probably not two. Yes, sometimes even that gives me a little congestion, so what do I do? I lay off of it for a while, which I can do because it's non-addictive. Ever seen a cigarette smoker just lay off of it for a while?
This is why "the fence" everyone asks for is a giant waste of tax dollars. It will never be high enough, deep enough, long enough or wide enough. The drug tunnels have been found in the past and I'm sure there will be more in the future. The drug deals are major organized crime with operators in Mexico and in the US.
this is another reason why i do drugs...now they ought to do something about these immigrants? now where is my weed damnit.
Exactly. Who was it who said we had to take life seriously anyway? Oh, yeah, it was the God people. Naturally. Why is it they seem to think that I have nothing better to do with my brief eyeblink of a life than to perform labor, procreate (within their guidelines, of course), pray, shop, and go to war? It seems to me that it's the God people who are truly "lost".
Looks like a border problem. Have jerry brown solve it.
Now now looney republican.......calm down!
Are most popies grown in Afghanistan?
Does this mean we have the ability to stop most heroin trade?
We probably already know the location of every cross border tunnel or should.
Probation not prohibition ! Why not set up a controlled period of legalization.say maybe 18 months.collect and analiyze the data and see how it shakes out.pardon the pun.
What would be the point? Such a probation would be a lose-lose situation for the prohibitionists. Besides, MILLIONS of people are already getting high, and 99.999 percent of the time, you never hear anything about it. That speaks more loudly than all the scientific studies combined.
Why cant feds be looking for more important things like murders so people did weed if you lock up everyone who does weed the populations going go down
doesnt make it bad for you either, as a matter of fact this plant has a lot of medical value to it as well, plus not one death from OD...now alcohol and cigarettes whole different story!!!! how bad does a drug have to be to be illegal? alcohol kills how many a day in the US? compare that to pot!!!