Ex-staffers creating WikiLeaks spinoff site
December 10th, 2010
11:54 AM ET

Ex-staffers creating WikiLeaks spinoff site

Several of Julian Assange's ex-colleagues say they're launching a WikiLeaks-like site called OpenLeaks next week.

According to Forbes columnist Andy Greenberg, leakers will be able to submit information to the site, but the site won't publish it. Instead, the leakers will name who - such as specific media organizations or watchdog groups - can have access to the information, Forbes reported. Those users will make their own decisions about fact-checking, editing and publishing.

That will allow the exposure of the information without the same legal questions that WikiLeaks faces, one of OpenLeaks' founders, Daniel Domscheit-Berg, told Forbes.

The Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter said OpenLeaks' founders wanted to continue to expose secrets but were unhappy with Assange's methods.

"As a short-term goal, this is about completing the technical infrastructure and ensuring that the organization continues to be democratically governed by all its members, rather than limited to one group or individual," one anonymous staff member told the paper.

Assange, the Australian founder and editor of WikiLeaks, is being held in England over Swedish sex-crime allegations unrelated to the WikiLeaks controversy.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday he has authorized "significant" actions related to a criminal investigation of WikiLeaks.

soundoff (206 Responses)
  1. Daniel

    Let's just wish them success in their endeavor.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      Scam... this is setup by the US Government to catch leakers

      December 10, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • America

      you do that while the rest of us pray they're stopped before doing further damage. Shame on the media outlets for giving them attention, they should boycott accessing the site.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • IFellForIt

      I agree with America, The failure of big government to know what is worth classifying secret and the failure of big government to keep secret data off easily accessible machines is completely the fault of wikileaks and they should be punished. Heck of a job brownie!

      December 10, 2010 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • icreepin

      This is just a complete copout. Fact is everyone knows that the fonder of Wikileaks isnt the same person who downloaded the original information, Fact is the US government can claim they are going to charge and punish Julian Assange for releasing the information but there attempts are going to fall way short. Why? Here is the reason. If the US government charges Julian Assange with obtaining and publishing that information then they are going to have to do the same thing with everyone on wikileaks staff and everyone world wide forgien government officials and non alike with the same charges. Which cant be done. So what the US government is going to engange in select prosicution? In the USA that is a crime.

      There is nothing the US government can do to Julian Assange unless they are prepared to trample on every news orginzation and private and hobbiest journlest who gets a source and then releases the information that said source has given them.

      US got caught with there pants down, If I were them I would step up my network security and come up with better ways to protect the "cables".

      I am going to love this trial since it will be so public, and all of the information the US government is trying to keep quiet will be matter of public record and the info will still get out.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Deb

      Whatever happened to "Loose Lips Sink Ship"? If these same people were around during WWII, we'd all be speaking German!

      December 10, 2010 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • minionhunter

      When lies are told more lies must be construed to cover up the truth and perpetuate the original lie; and then more lies have to follow that. Then people are killed or have their lives ruined for trying to bring forth the truth. There is no way that mainstream media or governments or corporate greedmongers can be trusted to bring out the truth. There are such deep, tangled layers of this deception that it is out of control. No wonder there is such a panic to stop the truth from coming out. Perhaps it is time for a massive upheaval of the current systems of government. They are obviously not working.

      December 10, 2010 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • DS

      If this had happened in WWII, and they were releasing German secrets, would you be complaining?

      December 10, 2010 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Darrell

      What happened to OPEN GOVERNMENT. Secrecy cannot exist in a TRUE DEMOCRACY. The Amercian Military Industrial Complex has managed to completely unravel whatever democracy we had left. Duck and Cover folks.

      December 10, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      People keep thinking we live in a democracy... we don't and never have.
      A Democratic Republic is not a democracy in nature.
      Information is secret for a reason. Some good and some bad.
      The problem with WikiLeaks is they didn't care who got hurt so long as the U.S. government got hurt in the process.
      That is sloppy journalism.

      December 10, 2010 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • 20yrveteran

      I'm saddened by the government I fought for. I've always expressed the siprnet was too freely given access to too many but after many years complaining, I gave up and retired. My blood boils by how this country has ended up from my lineage of Josiah Bartlett (Declaration of Independence signer) to what short future is to come. Honesty is no more !

      December 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Harold Trainer, Prospect, KY

      We need a lot more transpaency like Wiki Leaks Whistleblowers. Our government is corrupt and an oligarchy. Vigilance is the price of freedom. Info is knowledge and knowledge is power and power gives you the ability to challenge our corrupt system.

      December 10, 2010 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • K

      This is such a sham to appease the public. Considering that most major news organizations have political ties and are no longer "neutral", I don't see how OpenLeak's cute way of bending over for the propaganda/dictatorship is going to help free speech and truth. The news organizations will just censure the stuff they don't want the public to know or are threatened not to share. The smaller news organizations who publish it anyway will be discredited and called conspiracy theorists. And if there is any hidden agenda by the government behind this, leakers will be quietly exposed, fired or prosecuted. Either way public = lose. Maybe if the government wasn't so wrapped up in self-interest, greed and lies, we wouldn't be having this issue to begin with.

      December 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Random Anonymous Blackmail

      I'll have to go with bob on this one, it reeks of a honey pot to catch flies

      December 10, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Emerson

      No way this is a scam, check this out... http://lnk.co/F5M2Q

      December 10, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diane

      It's like th Borg out of Star Trek! They are adapting!!

      December 10, 2010 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      Or maybe Bob is a government agent and he's trying to scam us

      December 10, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Totoro0101

      I can see the effect of this being more subtle, the information will probably seem to seep in from all directions instead of from one guy, front and center. I hope that they maintain a high enough profile as a group to not be invisible and therefore vulnerable.

      December 10, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Hey, what an awesome idea! This way ONLY those who are authorized to have access to the information to begin with, can access it! Yeah, that's what I call leaked information, DOH.

      December 10, 2010 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • PrivateBenjamins

      Loose lips make your wiki leak then you need to see the doctor. 🙁

      December 10, 2010 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • FedUp 1981

      I'm sure that after several days of sharing a jail cell with a guy named "Enormous Trevor" Mr. Assange has some new "leaks" to think about...

      I'm amazed at this guy's rabid defenders: all of you need to get out from behind the keyboard, wipe the Doritos stains off your fingers, and go out into the REAL world. It's NOT pretty, granted, but THAT's where change happens.

      How is taking down amazon.com or PayPal in ANY way even relevant? That's NOT protest, that's just imbecility. You guys should take a shower, change clothes, and try to find another source for your outrage: Assange is a self-important narcissist, nothing more. You're cyber-cowards, nothing more, all of you outraged Assange groupies!

      If you want to impress the rest of the world, get out there IN IT rather than doing the convenient and easy thing. REAL journalists are out there, why not WikkiLeaks? Because it's EASY and SAFE to hide in cyber space. WikkiLeaks is PATHETIC.

      December 10, 2010 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Cesar

    Smart move. They will legally cover their rear ends and still get the word out.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wrong

      I disagree. sending information off to third party news sites, to me, sounds like a weak stance. true it protects the site and its owners more. but who is to say that the news sites that the information is sent to would actually publish the information?

      December 10, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • F O

      This will make it even worst. Now you can leak docs unanimously and simply forward them to Al-quaida,,, at least Wikileak deny leakers from doing such an act, something I highly appreciates.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • James L

      This could be a flawed view point. It is like saying that all the carriers and relay stations in the drug and human trafficking business are innocent because they only passed things on. They did not create nor kidnap and only the people at the end of the pipeline have to be judged. What is wrong with this picture?????????

      December 10, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • GrammarGnatsie

      Dear lord, F O, your post is terrible!
      Worse
      Unanimously? I think you meant anonymously.
      Al-Queda.
      An ellipse uses three periods, but you should have used one period, anyway.
      The site is WikiLeaks.
      Appreciated.

      That's an impressive amount of grammatic errors. I won't lie.

      Now that that's out of my system, please consider the likelihood that members of Al-Queda already have access to the leaks. Their ability to learn of the contents of the released cables is no more difficult than any Middle Eastern citizen. You may as well choose to not get out of the pool because it's raining.

      December 10, 2010 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Rick from LA

    This is how Wikileaks Should of been. Not the Anti-American Cyber terrorism the Assange is running.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam9

      Really? You just choose not to understand what's going on? Wikileaks never hacked anything, the cables were given to them in order to be leaked. And the attacks on Mastercard and Paypal were done by hackers not associated with Wikileaks, although they took their actions because of how these companies treated Wikileaks. Get your facts right before you start typing...

      December 10, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lisa

      I agree with Rick.

      December 10, 2010 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • IFellForIt

      I agree, giving the information to the people directly is not a good idea, we need for it to go to the main stream media so they can make decisions for us about what should be seen and not seen.

      December 10, 2010 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Canadian Sam

      baaaaa, little sheep. Yes, you go ahead and trust Rupert to tell you the truth. If he had in the first place, Wikileaks won't have been created. Simple minded people in America I guess.

      December 10, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      IFellForIt, I really hope you are being sarcastic, if not, I can't believe you are not really capable of making a decision by yourself and need guidance from the media.

      December 10, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Plan9

      Adam9...Zip up! Your Hipocrosy is showing. Assange is leaking this info because he beleives it is right to do. Visa, MC, and PayPal are dropping him becuase they beleive its the right thing to do. You ask Rick to get his facts correct and then you hand-out baseless opinions about hackers. Do you know the hackers? Did you interview the hackers or subject them to a lie detector? Of course not, so you cannot make factual claims about their aims,motives or associations. All you can do is give an opinion based on articles written by others you've read. If you're going to hold Rick's feet to the fire, take off your own shoe's first.

      If we're going to stop the practice of mis-inforamtion, we have to stop using it ourselves.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • BubbaDSmith

      Adam9
      Where did the Rick from LA say that Wikileaks hacked anyone?

      Heck, the "hackers" "hacking" all the websites (visa, paypal, mastercard etc) in support of Wikileaks are an insult to true hackers. They are nothing but script-kiddies.

      All Assange wants is to inflate his ego and bash the US.

      Wikileaks has done some good things in the past, but recently it's been all about Assange.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • IFellForIt

      Plan9, those are not "baseless opinions" they are the facts as we know them based on what the people at wikileaks are saying and based on what the people at 4chan are saying. Mastercard put out a libelous statement suggesting wikileaks is involved in illegal activity, I don't know if Visa was as stupid with their reasoning but Mastercards bumbling opens them up to a lawsuit.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • timber38

      man give your head a shake

      December 10, 2010 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Plan9

      Sorry IfellForIt but because people at WikiLeaks and 4Chan "Say things", to quote you, does not make them facts. You assume MC's statement is libelous. Heere are some facts:
      -wikiLeaks has published classified diplomatic cables. We can go online and read them.
      -publishing classified material IS illegal in the United States. We can go to a library and look up the Code of Law to see this.

      Neither of these contribute to whether Assange is right or wrong. Making a claim to either would be an opinion not a fact.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • IFellForIt

      Plan9, uh, you might want to google "New York Times Co. v. United States" before you start claiming things as facts that you know nothing about.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chalie

      Adam9...do you seriously think that Wikileaks didn't engage in hacking? Assange was convicted of hacking in Australia in 1992.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      I agree with you Rick. As an American I never asked for WikiLeaks and Assange to do what they are doing. If Assange thinks he's doing me a service he is sorely mistaken. He is HURTING my country. These cyberbullies hacking websites and denying service are no better than the so called 'tyrants' they are trying to bring down. If you disagree with them ...WATCH OUT..they will hack your life and try to ruin it just as suredly as a bullet to the head.

      December 10, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Translation

    In true free-market economic form, the need for more sites like Wikileaks created this spin-off. LOL!

    December 10, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      We already have govt leak site! They are call the office of special counsel, office of inspector general, FBI, you can leak even to your senators and house of rep....they can call for investigations...

      December 10, 2010 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Charlie

    Where are the hackers when you need them? DOWN WITH OPENLEAKS!!

    December 10, 2010 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andalf

      probably in jail where they belong.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  6. John Houston

    I think all people of the Earth should be concerned about secrets that can cause wars and create hardship to those of us who only want to live in peace.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • nepawoods

      I agree. And if you can't avoid a war, you should try to avoid being the loser.

      December 10, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joshua

      Since when was USA interested in peace? One of it's single largest industries and exports for decades has been arms. And they've also been great at producing/exporting war itself, for decades.

      December 10, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • antigoglin

      Um. How about keeping a secret which keeps a war from happening? Would that be ok. Transparency is not by nature rather a neutral thing. More of it may not make the world a better place.

      December 10, 2010 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
  7. great

    That`s great news. So even if the big goverments destroy wikileaks there will still be a new and even better Site to look at. 😀 Freedom of Speech will never die!!!!!!

    December 10, 2010 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
  8. James

    Assange is a terrorist that is trying to undermine U.S. interest here and abroad. He needs a 5×5 closet @ Hotel Cuba

    December 10, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • PraiseThLard

      Yes... a cell right next to Cheney...

      December 10, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Repeat after me - I Am Free

      How is Assange a terrorist?

      He has never employed violence to frighten or oppress anybody.

      All Lovers of Freedom, Liberty, and Democracy should be rising to the defense of Julian Assange and all the other free information heroes of the 21st century.

      December 10, 2010 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • PFCKyle

      A terrorist is someone who tries to strike fear into people of a community. He doesn't need to cause harm or kill anyone to be a terrorist.

      December 10, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Al

    It would truly be a shame if some of our top government officials are embarassed by this endeavour, I DON'T REALLY MEAN THAT,,,,,SCREW THEM.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Jim Morrison

    Who's to say "the word" is accurate, or even authentic? Let's see........ Who would I like to smear today..... ??? Or, now I can destroy anybody or any Government I want. Think I'll start with Congress, and several key Democrats...... Hmmmmmm. Oh, but that couldn't possibly happen, right?

    December 10, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Rachel

    I'm glad to hear this. I was disappointed with how wikileaks was operating. This is a much more professional way of getting the same point across.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  12. steve dent

    Hang them for treason.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Knucklehead61

      Treason against who? He's an Australian...

      December 10, 2010 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • cyg303

      Treason against who? He wasn't a U.S. citizen (Assange)

      December 10, 2010 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Lila

    Wikileaks used to be really good when it came out. Too bad they left it to that fame seeking jerk. Openleaks is what Wikileaks should have done. Obviously power corrupts anyone who has it.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Joe

    This is kinda dumb, the whole point of wikileaks is to submit info and it gets published openly so everyone can see it. Not send the leaks to controlled news outlets who can then publish what they want. If someone is going to leak something, it's going to wikileaks lol, not some stupid spinoff...

    December 10, 2010 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Gimmie Shelter

    When the lights of this whole episode are shut off, giving the information to the media will only accomplish what it did before WikiLeaks. Suppression of what the world populations need to make informed decisions and to know what their governments are up to.

    December 10, 2010 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
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