Witness: Arizona gunman 'was ready for war'
Law enforcement arrives Saturday outside a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Arizona, after several people were shot.
January 8th, 2011
10:30 PM ET

Witness: Arizona gunman 'was ready for war'

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[Updated at 10:30 p.m. ET] A man who helped subdue the gunman in Saturday's Arizona shooting spree said the man was trying to reload when he was tackled to the ground.

"He was ready for war. He was not playing around," Joe Zamudio told CNN. "He was going to keep shooting. It was not over. He had just ran out of bullets."

The gun, which another bystander had wrestled from the gunman, was empty and cocked open, and the shooter had another magazine at the ready, Zamudio said.

Zamudio pinned him to the ground until police showed up. The suspect, 22-year-old Jared Lee Loughner, is in custody of the Pima County Sheriff's Office, and authorities are obtaining search warrants for a residence and his vehicle. Authorities also are seeking a person of interest but his suspected connection to the incident is unclear.

Loughner is accused of shooting 18 people, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, a third-term Democrat who had organized the "Congress on Your Corner" meet and greet. Authorities believe the gunman had specifically targeted Giffords. She is in critical condition after undergoing surgery for a single gunshot wound to the head, but doctors said they are optimistic over her prospects for recovery.

Watch a timeline of events

Eleven others were wounded in the shooting and six are dead, among them U.S. District Court Judge John Rolls, a friend of Giffords' who had stopped by the event to say hello after attending Mass, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said.

Also killed was ÔĽŅGiffords staffer Gabe Zimmerman, director of community outreach who had coordinated the event to introduce Giffords to her constituents.

A 9-year-old girl also was killed.

The shooting sent shock waves through Washington, where Giffords was regarded as gracious and kind, a moderate Democrat known for her dedication to her constituents and willingness to work across party lines.

In light of the shootings, all legislation on the House schedule for the coming week has been postponed, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor announced in a statement.

Americans also struggled to come to terms with the event. Many of them showed up to a vigil at the Arizona State Capitol to pray together and share their thoughts.

In the Twitterverse, theories abounded as to the gunman's motivation. Meanwhile, while speaking to the press , the sheriff lamented "the vitriolic rhetoric" in American political discourse, suggesting it played a role in the shooting.

"This has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in and I think its time we do the soul-searching," he said.

"The anger, the hatred the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous and unfortunately, Arizona has become the capital. We have become the mecca of prejudice and bigotry."

[Updated at 10:00 p.m. ET] A House vote scheduled for Monday on whether to repeal health care legislation has been postponed after Saturday's shooting.

All legislation on the House schedule for the coming week has been postponed in a decision by leaders of both political parties in the House so "we can take whatever actions may be necessary in light of today's tragedy," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said in a statement.

Read more on CNN.com

[Updated at 9:13 p.m. ET] Some who knew Giffords and others who just wanted an outlet for emotions in the wake of the shooting rampage gathered on Capitol Hill Saturday night to honor the victims.

More than 50 marchers braved subfreezing temperatures and gusty winds to march to the Capitol and up the west steps to hold the vigil.

Read more on CNN.com

[Updated at 8:55 p.m. ET] A  law enforcement source familiar with the investigation says the Glock model 19 used in the shootings was purchased legally. The official did not have details at this time as to when and where the gun was purchased.

The gun was loaded with a 30-round magazine. The official said it is likely the extended magazine used in the shooting  was purchased separately and at a different time. The official said such a magazine does not automatically come with a weapons purchase and that it would be extremely rare for them to be sold together in one purchase.

The official said the suspect had purchased another gun a few years ago but this person did not know the details about what happened to that weapon and if the alleged shooter still owned it.

[Updated at 8:23 p.m. ET] Officials are not convinced that the suspected gunman acted alone, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik told reporters.

Law enforcement is actively searching for a "person of interest" who is a white male in his 50s believed to have assisted the suspect in a shooting, Dupnik said.

A suspect who Dupnik would not name is in the custody of the Pima County Sheriff's Office, he said. The suspect has had previous contact with law enforcement "regarding threats" to kill, Dupnik said, and described him as having a "troubled past."

CNN has confirmed that the suspect's name is Jared Lee Loughner, 22, whose apparent online footprint professes an distrust of government and a fondness for books such as "Mein Kampf," "The Communist Manifesto," "Peter Pan" and "The Republic."

"There's reason to believe this individual has a mental issue and I think that people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol," he said.

"Vitriol" in public debate was a recurring theme in Dupnik's remarks as he blasted the media for "the vitriolic rhetoric" heard on television and radio.

[Updated at 7:57 p.m. ET] Gabe Zimmerman, director of community outreach for U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, was among those killed in Saturday's shooting at a constituents meeting outside a Tucson Safeway, Gifford press secretary CJ Karamargin said.

Zimmerman was the staff member who set up today’s event in Giffords’ district, Karamargin said. The Tucson native was engaged to be married.

[Updated at 7:43 p.m. ET] The Army said in a statement that the suspect in the shooting was never in the Army.

"He attempted to enlist in the Army but was rejected for service.  In accordance with the Privacy Act, we will not discuss why he was rejected," the Army said in a statement.

[Updated at 7:21 p.m. ET] Jared Lee Loughner, the suspect, had a limited presence on social-media sites, including YouTube and MySpace. Here's a sampling of some of the messages that CNN found on Loughner's pages:

MySpace

December 26, 2010: I'm not going to change the mistakes, you don't know – funny! (I think the CIA watches my-space)

December 30, 2010: I now understand a certain word - Cult!

YouTube

December 15, 2010: If I define terrorist then a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon.

I define terrorist.

Thus a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially
as a political weapon.

If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

You call me a terrorist.

Thus the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

December 15, 2010: The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America's Constitution.

You don't have to accept the federalist laws.

Nonetheless, read the United States of America's  Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws.

You're literate, listener?

Read more about Loughner's digital footprint on CNN.com

[Updated at 7:12 p.m. ET] The University of Arizona's men's basketball game against Stanford University has been postponed following the shootings.

"The University feels the game should be delayed with deep respect to the victims and families impacted by this tragedy," Arizona athletics director Greg Byrne said.

The game will be played at 12:30 p.m. MST Sunday.

[Updated at 6:48 p.m. ET] Saturday's deadly shootings at an Arizona constituency meeting outside a Tucson Safeway appear to have “no nexus to terrorism," a law enforcement official said.

This official did not know if there had been any recent threat against Rep Giffords but said there are frequent threats to various members of Congress, mostly via phone  calls or e-mails, or mailed threats.

[Updated at 6:30 p.m. ET] U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts released this statement on the death of U.S. District Court Chief Judge John Roll, who was killed in the shootings:

"Chief Judge John Roll was a wise jurist who selflessly served Arizona and the nation with great distinction, as attorney and judge, for more than 35 years.  I express my deepest condolences to his wife Maureen and his children, as well as the other victims and their families.  Chief Judge Roll’s death is a somber reminder of the importance of the rule of law and the sacrifices of those who work to secure it."

[Updated at 6:16 p.m. ET] The Tea Party released this statement regarding the shootings:

“We at the Tea Party Express are shocked and saddened to hear about the terrible tragedy that took place in Tucson today. It is appalling that anyone would commit such unthinkable violence against Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford, her staff, a sitting federal judge and the many other victims and families impacted.

"These heinous crimes have no place in America, and they are especially grievous when committed against our elected officials. Spirited debate is desirable in our country, but it only should be the clash of ideas.  An attack on anyone for political purposes, if that was a factor in this shooting, is an attack on the democratic process.  We join with everyone in vociferously condemning it."

Read the full story on CNN.com

[Updated at 5:41 p.m. ET] ÔĽŅÔĽŅÔĽŅWho is Gabrielle Giffords? She's¬†a Democrat who¬†was first elected in 2006. She has served as chairwoman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and also holds seats on the House Science and Technology and Armed Services committees.

She won her third term in a closely contested race against a Tea Party-sponsored candidate and was one of three Democratic legislators who reported vandalism at their offices following the March vote on health care reform.

She is married to Navy Capt. Mark Kelly, a NASA astronaut who is scheduled to lead a space shuttle mission to the International Space Station. The two married in 2007, after meeting four years prior in China, as young leaders selected by the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations, Giffords told the New York Times in her wedding announcement.

The article described their courtship as a drawn-out affair between two deeply committed civic servants who slowly found their way to each other. When they met, Giffords was seeing someone and Kelly was married.

After Giffords split from her boyfriend, she invited Kelly to join her on a tour of the Arizona State Prison in Florence.

"I‚Äôd been working on legislation dealing with capital punishment. Mark is the son of police officers ‚ÄĒ well, he just really wanted to sit in ‚Äėthe chair,' " she told the newspaper.

The two married three years later, they married at an organic produce farm in Amado, Arizona, called Agua Linda. An avid recycler, Giffords wore a Vera Wang gown borrowed from a friend.

"To a bride who moves at a velocity that exceeds that of anyone else in Washington, and a groom who moves at a velocity that exceeds 17,000 miles per hour," a wedding guest said in a toast to the couple.

[Updated at 5:20 p.m. ET] Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer expressed condolences for the shooting victims - 6 are dead and 12 injured.

"I am just heartbroken. Gabby (Giffords) is more than just a colleague she is a friend. She has always been a noble public servant," an emotional Brewer said, pausing for composure.

"I ask the people of Arizona and the people of America to keep the victims and their families in their prayers, and pray for their recovery and pray that in Arizona we never have to experience a tragedy like this ever again."

Giffords publicized the "Congress on Your Corner" meet-up at the Safeway in her southern Arizona district on her Twitter account.

Judge John Roll, the chief judge on the U.S. District Court for Arizona, was among 6 people killed, along with a 9-year-old girl, officials said.

Witnesses said the gunman shot Giffords at point blank range through the head and then continued firing. The suspect, identified by law enforcement sources as Jared Lee Loughner, has been taken into custody.

[Updated at 4:52 p.m. ET] Chief Judge John Roll was among 6 people killed at an Arizona constituent meeting outside a Tucson grocery store Saturday.

[Updated at 4:30 p.m. ET] The suspect in a shooting at an Arizona constituent meeting outside a Tucson grocery story is a white male born in 1988, CNN's Jeanne Meserve has confirmed from a federal law enforcement source.

Six people have died, including a 9-year-old girl, and 12 were injured, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, authorities said.

[Updated at 4:07 p.m. ET] Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is in critical condition and a young child has died after a shooting at a political meeting at an Arizona grocery store, a hospital spokesman said Saturday.

Giffords, who was hosting the event, is under anesthesia after undergoing surgery for a single gunshot wound to the head "through and through," said Dr. Peter Rhee, Trauma Director at the University Medical Center in Tucson.

"The Congresswoman is not deceased. She is in critical condition," Rhee said in a press conference. "I am very optimistic about recovery."

Giffords publicized the "Congress on Your Corner" meet-up at the Safeway in her southern Arizona district on her Twitter account.

[Updated at 3:40 p.m. ET] Six people have died and 12 - including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords - were injured in a shooting at a political meeting at a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store Saturday, according to Rick Kastigar of the Pima County Sheriff's Department.

[Updated at 3:20 p.m. ET] A suspect is in custody in the shootings of at least 12 people, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, at a constituent meeting at an Arizona grocery store, the U.S. Capitol Police said in a statement.

"The suspect is in custody. No further details on the motive or other victims are available at this time," the statement said. "The U.S. Capitol Police are directly involved in this investigation. As more information is developed, it will be provided. In the interim, all Members and staff are advised to take reasonable and prudent precautions regarding their personal security."

A statement from President Obama confirmed that some people had died.

"This morning, in an unspeakable tragedy, a number of Americans were shot in Tucson, Arizona, at a constituent meeting with Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.  And while we are continuing to receive information, we know that some have passed away, and that Representative Giffords is gravely wounded," he said.

"We do not yet have all the answers.  What we do know is that such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society.  I ask all Americans to join me and Michelle in keeping Representative Giffords, the victims of this tragedy, and their families in our prayers."

[Updated at 3:00 p.m. ET] Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is currently undergoing surgery for a gunshot wound to the head, a spokeswoman for the University Medical Center in Tucson said.

Nine patients were brought to the hospital, including a child. All of them are in either serious or critical condition and are undergoing surgery, spokeswoman Darci Slaten said.

A federal judge was also among those shot, a law enforcement official said. It is not clear whether he was among those taken to the hospital.

[Updated at 2:43 p.m. ET] There were conflicting reports Saturday about the condition of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords following a shooting Saturday at a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store. Giffords' press secretary said the congresswoman remains in surgery for her injuries, disputing an earlier report from a law enforcement source saying she had died.

[Updated at 2:23 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords died Saturday after a gunman opened fire at a Tucson, Arizona grocery store, a law enforcement source said. Giffords, who had been holding a meeting with constituents, was among at least 12 people shot.

[Updated at 1:51 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was among at least 12 people shot at a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store, a Democratic source told CNN's Dana Bash. The source called her injuries "pretty serious."

[Updated at 1:41 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was meeting with constituents at a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Arizona, where at least 12 people were injured in a shooting shortly after 10 a.m. MST Saturday, a spokesman for the Pima County sheriff's Department said. It is unclear whether Giffords was among those hurt.

"Several" people were shot Saturday at a grocery store in Tucson,
Arizona, a spokesman for the Pima County Sheriff's Department said. No other details were immediately available.

soundoff (1,655 Responses)
  1. Yankee

    Mine money is too.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Lora

    Not all right wingers are whack jobs. I'm concerned that it is one myself but seriously not everyone who believes in liberty is crazy and violent.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      So by your comment we can infer that you mean only "right wingers' believe in liberty. That statement alone indicates your absolute ignorance of the founding tenets of our country. Please go back to England (although they don't want you either)

      January 8, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Sherri W.W.#1~ILLinois

    Some bloggers said the other day,that we need to be SURE th President and Vice President are very,very safe right now! I am telling all of you for a fact,that having John Boehner in there as 3rd in line to run this country is a TERRIBLE Idea~he could NOT handle it and the rest of the Repubs would literally run over him and finish this country off! BE CAREFUL REPUBS AN TEA PARTY~You might get a LOT more than you REALLY wish AND take us ALL down with you and your families. A very bad situation indeed!

    January 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • watzittooya

      WOW...are you blaming this on Boehner??

      January 8, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      Best thing about Boehner being #3,,,Nancy Pelosi is not.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Ellie

    I have NEVER heard Hannity, Beck, or any of the Tea Baggers as you call them, even hint at promoting violence. In fact, just the opposite. Dems were screaming throughout the Bush years to "Take the country back!' Were they inciting violence? I think not. Why anyone would suggest such an idea unless THEY want to promote violence. Sheesh people, get a grip!

    January 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • watzittooya

      I agree Ellie!!!!!

      January 8, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      Get a grip! You moron, a woman was just shot in the head. You get a grip – if someone shoots you in the head, I'll tell your family to get a grip.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      Incitement is just a step away from the violence. They are America's radical mullahs... who is next in the hate hunt?

      January 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • sgraham

      You didn't hear Sharon Angle (Tea Partier) talking about "second amendment remedies" during the last election? I bet the shooter did. Of course these idiots are responsible.

      January 8, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • jack

      sorry but there has been far too much loose talk about taking back the government through second amendment rights, comparing our president to hitler, signs like that are commonly present at tea party gatherings, beck constantly talking about obama and naziism, it goes on and on truly sick

      January 8, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • alexander

      Congresswoman Gifford. Targetted for removal by Sarah, the riflewoman, Palin. Watch out what you wish for MOMMA GRIZZLY. PS Ellie how many innocent Iraqi's are dead because a Bush about WMD which never exisisted?????

      January 9, 2011 at 3:19 am | Report abuse |
  5. Kate

    Do Fox News and Frank Luntz finally have blood on their hands they can't casually dismiss?

    January 8, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kate

      Oh I'm so sorry, stanley, I forgot the tea-party taliban hates it when you insult their prophets.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • bill williams

      looks like it, and they continue to stir the pot..

      January 8, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      Exactly, blood on their hands and they will be held accountable. This is an act of war, civil war.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • DORIS CREWS

      I CAN SEE KATE YOU MUST ONLY WATCH YOUR LIBERAL, EDITED NON NEWS SHOWS. THE MODERATE DEMOCRATE WAS GAVE A GREAT FEED BACK ON FOX NEWS YESTERDAY MORNING WITH BRETT HUMMES. WERE SHE WAS AGAINST ALL THE LIBERATED IDEAS COMMING OUT OF THE OBAMA ADMINASTRATION. SHE IS A MODERATE DEMOCRATE, NOT A LIBERAL LIKE THE REST OF THEM. I AM A REPUBLICAN, BUT SHE DOES STAND FOR MOST ALL WE AGREE WITH ABOUT THE AZ BORDER AND CUTTING THE SALERIES ACROSS THE POLITICIANS. SO STOP WATCHIN LIBERAL TALK SHOWS.

      January 8, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  6. bri

    I fear that this is only the beginning of the craziness. Our great nation is in serious trouble, and the crazies exist on all sides of the fence. The fact of the matter is...this was wrong no matter who did it. Violence is certainly no way to express your views. I wouldn't wish something like this on anyone. Level heads in dire situations such as the economy and other issues with our country will prevail. Needless violence will not.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Veritas

    Strange that CNN is so behind. Gifford and five other are dead.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • myklds

      That was sad...

      But strange? it sounds like your first time here.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Sarah

    Totally agree. I guess with the Tea Partiers and other crazies in Arizona we all need to bear arms? When are we going to change gun laws in the USA? It's time: university shooting, hospital shootings, factory shootings, post office shootings, now this? When does it end and how? With all of us in fear?

    January 8, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • bill williams

      not a hunting accident...

      January 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve Lyons

      Before you threaten gun owners, why don't you clamp down on Congress first? Term limits. No retirement perks. Let's make Congress live no better than the average US Citizen.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Murray

      Not threatening gun owners, just believe that the ability to carry in public is asking for this kind of incident.

      January 8, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • LJC

      If someone wants to commit murder, I hardly think they're going to be stopped because carrying a weapon is against the law!

      January 8, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mitzie

      A Congressman did not commit this crime. How ridiculous we all sound. Are our politics really more important than the lives of the 12 people shot? Have we become that stupid in our conversations?

      January 8, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg K

      Politics are more important than 12 dead people when they decide to go to War and kill 5000 soldiers, 100,000s of Iraqis and millions of uninsured and thus untreated sick people. Remember that these are policies of the right.

      January 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marty

      gotta point there !

      January 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • rita

      boy are you right congress is not for us they are for themselves and i wish they could live on my income for one week,people need to wake up and stop this we need to vote them out,they are attacking the lower income first and working thier way to the top.i am sorry for the families involved in this issue i want the health care that they got and at thier price which is lower then i pay on social security,all they do is lie and cheat and dont have to worry how they are going to pay next months rent or utilities,this is a wake up call to all congressmen/women they better start helping the little person,and as far as jan brewer is concerned governer of az she better stop playing god,she pulled the transplant program today so people just have to wait for death,i am very angry about this.

      January 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • NewsOrGossip

      The most intelligent recommendations, that I've seen on this blog yet!

      January 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Please explain to me how gun laws will reduce crime. Show me facts, figures, data......proof. I can show plenty that proves gun control equals more violent crime.

      The anti-gun crowd is illogical. Criminals, by their very nature, don't obey laws.

      January 8, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • snoop

      exactly! gangs in the ghettos purchase the guns off the st, not legally!

      January 8, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      Okay, I'll bite. Please show me your "plenty" of proof that gun control equals more violent crime. I'm especially interested in how you will show that the U.S. has less violent crime than say, Canada or Europe. Please make sure to provide references for your evidence, so I can see for myself. Thanks.

      January 8, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fran Irwin

      Brian – you want proof, come visit us in Canada OR make a trip across the pond to Brittain – gun control on every level works!

      January 8, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • jam

      what a crocked and illogical statement ... u want facts and data ? I lived in a country that strictly enforced gun control. Guess what ? I hardly had any news of any criminals shooting anyone. Heck!... the criminals here are so afraid to hold a gun, because discharging it in a crime scene will definitely be like reading the last rites ... enjoy your gun freedom son, just hope that your loved ones are not on the end of it.

      January 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • colin

      Illogical? Why is it then that countries where citizens have LESS guns also have LESS crime? You tea-baggers keep insisting that if we all just own more guns there would be no crime. We would all just walk around like we are in some Chuck Norris movie with holsters and guns, kind of like the wild west when of course there was no crime right? I mean no one ever shot anyone back in those days right? It was just the rule of law and everyone was civilized....

      January 9, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
    • rebeverett

      If they ban guns then that is when everyone can start living in fear.
      Right now the only ones living in fear is those of you who don't own guns and have to rely on law enforcement that will arrive 10 or 15 minutes after the crime is committed.

      January 8, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kynsie

      rebeverett
      Exactly right.

      January 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diane

      I completly agree with you. I was in fear until my husband talked me into purchasing a gun and educating myself about it.

      January 8, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • CJ

      I don't understand blaming gun laws for this. The gun didn't pull it's own trigger and I for one don't want only the government and criminals to have guns. Seems like theres some good history against taking guns away from law abiding citizens. If memory serves, making guns illegal was one of the last things the Nazi's did before taking total control.

      January 8, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • DT

      Okay...then the logic follows for drugs. Drugs are fine, its the people taking the drugs that are the problem. If you know how to handle drugs, nucleur weapons, automatic weapons, missiles, etc...and belong to an association for it, and take a class now and again, then all should be available. Because, eveyone is trusted with a gun...right, home of the brave. Rediculous...wake up.

      January 8, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandra

      YOU HAVE A HELL OF A POINT!!!

      January 8, 2011 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • hotepk

      I used to be in favor of banning guns-however the gun culture in America is far too entrenched to dislodge-the ensuing bloodbath of gun advocates fighting to the death any mass confiscation of weapons would make it counter-productive...we just have to accept an armed citizenry as a fact of life and deal w/ it best we can...I personally fear the government using a disarmed citizenry to enact martial law than the lone deranged gunman.

      January 8, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • WakeUpAmerica

      ...Police homicides, armed robberies, whack jobs killing people at political rallies. The only people who are scared are those without guns. The police can't, won't, and aren't required to protect you. I guess you failed notice that a civilian bystander accosted the suspect. Where were the police???

      Law abiding gun owners with legal firearms rarely are responsible for this kind of tragedy.

      January 8, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • E

      Please remember that the soldier who bears arms that gave you your freedom. More people die in automobile accidents every day in fact according to Allstate Insurance 90% of at fault accidents in Colorado are illegal immigrants. I don't see anyone trying to get rid of a real menace... people in cars. In fact more people die in car accidents nationwide than of all cancers combined.... the answer is people making stupid decision kill people if you own a car you are your more of a threat to the public than a person with a firearm

      January 8, 2011 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Do you honestly believe that "gun laws" would have stopped this person from acquiring a gun and carrying out this act? We already have strict laws against murder and assault with a deadly weapon, and those laws didn't stop him, did they? So what possible dillusion makes you think that gun laws are going to have a greater impact?

      January 8, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve Lyons

      When will we reign in our federal government? We do NOT need more laws, we need more liberty, and yes that means we need lower taxes and LESS federal government.

      January 8, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve Lyons

      When politicians draw this much hatred towards themselves, they are doing something wrong. Very wrong.

      January 8, 2011 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • MusicNeverSleeps

      Did you honestly just blame the victims for this? That would seem to bring hate upon you, should you then be eliminated?

      January 9, 2011 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      Isn't it ironic that mass shootings happen at "gun free zones" like hospitals, schools, and post offices? What that sign says to criminals is that there is nobody here that can stop me from carrying out my murderous plan. Why? Because law abiding gun carrying citizens obey signs like that. That's why we are allowed, by law, to carry guns in certain places. The kid who killed those people broke those gun laws that were already in place. Criminals by definition DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW! There is no law current or some day laws that would have prevented this tragedy from happening.
      If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words.

      January 8, 2011 at 10:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Think before you speak

      This was not a gun free zone. This shooting took place in Arizona at a strip mall. Arizona allows almost anybody to cary a loaded gun. Get educated before you speak.

      January 9, 2011 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
    • jon

      Great, let's all start carrying guns like at the OK Corral. 30,000 people are killed with handguns in the U.S. every year. Why are we worried about terrorists??? WE ARE the terrorists!

      January 9, 2011 at 1:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Mason

      Considering well over half of those are suicides, and almost 20 percent criminals who were shot by police I'm not troubled by those numbers in a nation of over 300,000,000 people.

      January 9, 2011 at 5:08 am | Report abuse |
    • conoclast

      I'm hardly an apologist for guns but fact is firearms have been such a vital tool in America's history they're in our cultural DNA. Obama knows this and is wise not to confront the NRA. Not much of a solution here but at least we know what we're up against in passing gun legislation.

      January 9, 2011 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
    • ***^^^***

      we actually get funding for mental health?

      January 9, 2011 at 2:15 am | Report abuse |
  9. Veritas

    This country is getting scarier by the day with people like you in it...

    January 8, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Byron

    instead of blamming the right or the left why don't we pray for the people that were shot!!! some of them are already dead.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Veritas

      ...because prayer is a meaningless mythological act and utter waste of time

      January 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  11. YRaj

    this was a planned hit.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  12. bill williams

    I'll second that, once again a gun voted...

    January 8, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ron

      Stupid thing to say Bill. I hope you were drunk or high when you wrote that statement. If not, I feel sorry for you and your life....

      January 8, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Quinn.

      Ha, that's funny, Gun voting.

      Okay, I'm only 16, But I'm mature enough to know no one BUT Jared is to be blamed for this. Please, Realize this. It literally scares the hell out of me to see that adults around me are ripping the Country I was born into shreds. Remember It will one day be my generations planet, STOP SCREWING IT UP!!

      stop acting like 3rd graders Blaming everything that goes wrong on one thing. The one person to actually BLAME is the guy pulling the trigger of that gun, JARED LEE LOUGHNER!!.

      I mean no, don't get me wrong, What Sarah Palin did wasn't the right thing to do, But it's not like SHE fired the gun.
      Come on people, GROW UP!

      January 10, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
  13. SB

    Assuredly you are NOT threatening the President of the United States.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  14. glacialspeed

    Gotta be one of those Tea Party rednecks.

    January 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim50

      Really? Why? Just because you are totally irrational and hate them? I'd sure like to see your PROOF before you start defaming people.

      January 8, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  15. duke

    If she died and the tea-drinkers lies were the cause then we the people should storm the capital and force out all who believe in conservatism!!

    January 8, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
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