No, your zodiac sign hasn't changed
January 13th, 2011
10:11 PM ET

No, your zodiac sign hasn't changed

Tattoo parlor owners must be salivating. An assertion in a Minneapolis Star Tribune article that our understanding of the zodiac is off by about a month - and that therefore people have been identifying themselves with the wrong sign - caught fire on the internet Thursday, and many folks are in an absolute panic on social media.

"If my zodiac symbol has been changed to a Libra, what am I supposed to do with my Scorpio tattoo?!?!," read one tweet Thursday.

Some vowed to get their tats removed. Others groaned about losing the sign with which they’ve identified themselves for years. The zodiac and related terms - including Ophiuchus, said to be a 13th and neglected sign - were trending Twitter topics much of Thursday.

But before astrology fans scrape the ink from their arms because they think they're now a Virgo instead of a Libra, they should consider this: If they adhered to the tropical zodiac - which, if they're a Westerner, they probably did - absolutely nothing has changed for them.

That's worth rephrasing: If you considered yourself a Cancer under the tropical zodiac last week, you're still a Cancer under the same zodiac this week.

That's because the tropical zodiac - which is fixed to seasons, and which Western astrology adheres to - differs from the sidereal zodiac - which is fixed to constellations and is followed more in the East, and is the type of zodiac to which the Star Tribune article ultimately refers.

Two zodiacs. That's nothing new.

"This story is born periodically as if someone has discovered some truth. It's not news," said Jeff Jawer, astrologer with

The hubbub started with Sunday's Star Tribune article, which said the following: "The ancient Babylonians based zodiac signs on the constellation the sun was 'in' on the day a person was born. During the ensuing millenniums, the moon’s gravitational pull has made the Earth 'wobble' around its axis, creating about a one-month bump in the stars' alignment."

"When [astrologers] say that the sun is in Pisces, it’s really not in Pisces," Parke Kunkle, a board member of the Minnesota Planetarium Society, told the Star Tribune.

"Indeed," the article continued, "most horoscope readers who consider themselves Pisces are actually Aquarians." The article also asserts Scorpio's window lasts only seven days, and that a 13th constellation, Ophiuchus, used to be counted between Scorpio and Sagittarius but was discarded by the Babylonians because they wanted 12 signs per year.

True enough, Jawer says, the sun doesn't align with constellations at the same time of year that it did millennia ago. But that’s irrelevant for the tropical zodiac, codified for Western astrology by Ptolemy in the second century, he says.

In the tropical zodiac, the start of Aries is fixed to one equinox, and Libra the other.

"When we look at the astrology used in the Western world, the seasonally based astrology has not changed, was never oriented to the constellations, and stands as … has been stated for two millenniums," Jawer said.

People who put stock in astrology can ask whether they should adhere to the tropical zodiac or the sidereal zodiac. Jawer argues for the tropical.

"Astrology is geocentric. It relates life on Earth to the Earth’s environment, and seasons are the most dramatic effect, which is why we use the tropical zodiac," he said.

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  1. blah

    blah blah blah

    January 14, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Sara

    The signs have been changed for over a thousand years. Astrologers refuse to recognize this but astronomers have known and taught this for years. Whoever wrote this article is very unintelligent for telling people that it is false. The constellations they were based on so many years ago are in a different location now.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      I'm not sure the constellations are in a different place. I think the earth's alignment is different, creating a different vantage point.

      January 14, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elle

      There is no mention of astronomers in this article because they are talking about astrologers. If the subject is on astrologers, how can the writer of the article be unintelligent when they are talking about what an astrologer said? When did the author mention anything about what astronomers said? Didn't because the focus of the article was not on that profession.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • modchen

      actually, that's called the precession of the equinoxes. you can read more about it here:

      January 14, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      It's not the vantage point. The stars are all moving at incredible speeds, but for them to look as though they in different locations takes great lengths of time because of the vast distances involved. This has occurred over thousands of years and the constellations don't look quite like they used to. The science (doppler shift, paralax, etc.) exists to confirm this.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rashad

      Sara, did you even read the article? You seem to be misinformed on what the writer is actually saying.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • freeman

      Astrology has not changed. It is the same as its always been. Completely made up.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      Did you read the article? Do that, and then try again.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • shannon

      who cares, it has always been for as long as I know 12, why change it now.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • kyle

      Yea im afraid mark is right. You are the one who is unintelligent if you think the constellations have moved. This article was wrote to assure people you are who you thought you were. It's all about the Babylonians and that they based everything off where the sun was (the sun doesn't move we do) in comparison to the stars. Our system is only based from a few thousand years ago and when you were born, you were born under the sign the sun was in facing from the west not the east.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeremy

      Basically, the guy is saying astrology has nothing to do with the stars(other than the sun) or the shapes the star make, even though the term 'astro' would make you think that it does, but apparently it doesn't. They base their predictions on how many days you were born from the equinoxes. The equinox is based on the angle of the earth to the sun. If it based on the sun, shouldn't it be called solarlogy or something. Also, the sun doesn't make a bunch of different shapes that the zodiac signs use. From Earth, the sun makes one shape, which is a circle.

      In short, his answer is, we know it doesn't line up to your birthdate anymore or make sense at all, but we don't care.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Exactly. They changed with the alignment of the Earth and Sun in the solar system, to the best of my knowledge. At any rate, they've been constantly changing. Whomever perpetuated the rumor that we were just wrong and off by a month is an imbecile.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • B

      Actually, its is true that both the stars have moved and that the earth's axis has given us a different vantage point. Most stars are moving across space, and the motion of them can be measured with sensitive scientific instruments. However, the biggest reason the constellations are in a different place is because the earth's axis wobbles slightly. In the times the zodiac was developed, Polaris was not the north star. The night sky appeared to rotate around Thuban, a star in Draco. Which meant the constellations appeared furhter 'up' the sky than they do now. Since we no seem to rotate around Polaris, the constellations that the sun passes through are sightly different.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • ACAT

      Yes, that's the whole point of the article, the stars have changed, but the horoscope that we're accustomed to is not based on the constellations themselves.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dar

      Sara, you must have misread. This article is assuring most westerners who like/believe in astrology that the astrology they believe in has not changed at all, because, instead of being constellation-based, is based off of the equinoxes- and the seasons on Earth. The article did not refute anything that you just talked about. It also is not an astronomy article, but an astrology one. Though the subjects are related, they deal with entirely different things. Astrology is a pseudo-science, whereas astronomy is not.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dan W

    Proud non-believer here!
    To me astrology is like witchcraft or any other religion – BS!

    January 14, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Star

      how can you be a "proud non-believer"? Wouldn't that just mean you're a negative person? Christianity goes against all human happiness. maybe looking at the stars would be a healthy distraction from your sorry repression.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nic S

      Star, who ever said he was Christian? O.o

      January 14, 2011 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ana S.

      Christians have always spoken of any other religion as 'witchcraft.' It's common knowledge if you care to pay attention. I think all this hub bub about which Zodiac is real and which is a pretty stupid. It's all about the single, exact, day you -yourself- were born. Date, time, geographical all goes into what zodiac sign you are. Oh, and if you read (AND pay attention to) the correct horoscopes that are based upon scientific findings and not the writings of someone who knows nothing about this subject, you can always tell your a certain sign. Every sign is different but your sign fits you. Scorpios, your still a Scorpio. Same goes for all other signs.

      No offense meant, just thought I'd speak my own two cents worth cause apparently there isn't a lot of common sense being used around here in this infinitely smaller world we occupy.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • ryan

      *i doubt you could find a more blood stained religion the christianity.... judasim? lol
      *it all depends what the exact time and day you where born on.. the passage of time if a human convention on earth alone, if you were travelling faster"time" would be different infact time is different in orbit then it is on earth(in thousands of a second re atomic clock) so in effect time is just a convention that humans percieve to make life more convienant lol and the day time whatever doesnt have any influence on your person.
      god doesnt want organized religion he just wants people to do good, religion as a whole was only created because our minds demanding to know why things happen ie. earthquakes drought storms and its now the 21st century and we know better do to a new religion we have named science :p

      January 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Michael

    The Bible was a FORCED collection of books that some people put together and they decided in meetings what would be religious days and such matters. They didn't use all the books because they didn't like all of them. They just took the best sounding ones. I don't think "God" told the Caesar which books to put in the Bible and which to leave out, but to each his own. The Christmas that Christians celebrate began as a pagan holiday. Did you know that? Oh, and did you know Jesus could NOT have been born in Winter? It is common sense and anyone who knows history would know that if you read it, concerning the sheep I believe it is since I don't have a Bible on me in this hotel room (in Germany). Jesus would have been born during Summer in reality according to the information written.
    If something as simple as Christmas itself is a sham, then you gotta think what else is a sham? What about Easter? What about the entirety of the Bible itself? Hmmmmm.
    Believe in fairytales if you want, but i'm not going to be brainwashed nor bullied into believing in it. I guarantee you not even half of America REALLY believes in God. There is a large percentage who say they are to other people just to not be judged and belittled which Christians are oh so good at.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shari


      January 14, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brittney

      Michael- Please stop, you sound silly. You have no idea what you are talking about. You just sound like everyone else that claims they know something about Christ and the Bible and truely have no clue what they are saying.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Victoria

      What does this have to do with the article about zodiac signs?

      January 14, 2011 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rafael

      What Michael says is true. Brittney needs to go back to tweeting on her Crackberry.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • kergan

      Michael The Christian holidays are all adapped from the pagan celibrations. The church this to make it easer to convert non-christians. The Bible has no bearing on the holiday beyond giving them a story. This does not make them a sham.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jen

      I love this post. Christians do not, because it's threatening to them, to think that their life's beliefs are based on lies that were created by man, to make us behave. I will say to the crybabies who have responded negatively to the OP, the same thing I've said to all Christians in my personal life (including family): PROVE to me that "god" exists, and I will believe. Until then, stop forcing your opinions on everyone else. It's disrespectful to those who do not follow Christianity. It's basically saying all other religions, and essentially races, are incorrect for not agreeing with your idealist view of what happens after we die.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      I remember reading that biblical scholars concluded that Jesus' birthday was probably in March.

      To the uninformed: Christmas was placed at the time when all the pagan religions were celebrating their winter solstice festivals for the symbolism of the increasing sunlight in the Northern Hempishere. This made it easier for them to spread into non-Christian lands, who were still by and large pagan and animist. After making the claim that their religions were not so different, the indigenous people said "well, if our religions are so similar, why can't we keep our customs?"

      They were then MASSACRED. I took university courses dealing with the actual sociopolitcial structure behind the Bible and spread of Christianity, this is academically agreed upon, historical fact.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • jim

      At least Michael isn't clueless enough to believe Christian mythology.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Di

      Well said Michael. Did you know that the current bible was altered by Constantine the 300's AD to better align with the belief and political system of the time?

      January 14, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • AR377

      I don't really care if you believe in God, that's your choice, so therefore I have no desire to prove anything to you. And I always find it so funny how non-believers always want to put Christians on blast for supposedly "forcing their opinions" on them when non-believers do the same thing!

      January 14, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandy

      I agree with you michael. so many people just follow what they are told from infancy...never researching anything themselves. A HUGE majority of people don't even know about the dead sea scrolls either. Which I find extremely important. also a very large percentage of Christians have never even read the bible...they go to church, sit, and listen to a priest, preacher, minister etc...and go by his opinions never digging deeper. Pathetic.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lanfear

      Very well said!
      I'll take independant thinking any day, thank you!

      January 14, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kait

      Telling people why they are wrong for believing in something, is no better than them telling you why they are right.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • mandee

      YAY!! GO MICHAEL!!!

      January 14, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Infinite Fruit

      I agree with Michael. Hey, anyone remember the Crusades? In the name of God and stuff?

      January 14, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kilpatrick

      Awww...poor Michael and seems as if they may possibly share the same brain. Newsflash, Jen....I don't believe anyone attempted to force anything on you here – except for Michael and his ridiculous rant that had nothing to do with the topic. Also, some research...and think before ever speaking about anything.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul

      I'm afraid the OP is right (about the whole x-mas thing, not the abandon christianity part). Believe what you will but when you light up your house and tree, feast, and exchange gifts. You are actually celebrating a pagan holiday, yuletide, the return of the sun god. Well... sorta sun god, this guy oh ya, we know he doesnt actually exist, paganism is a metaphorical religion. He just represents all that is manly, like weapons, hunting, violence and such.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oh Lord

      Dear God, the IQ can't be much over 30 in this brain trust. Michael, if you don't know anything about the fatih, don't talk about it.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Casey

      December 25th is a day that man picked to celebrate the birth of Jesus. Not anywheres does it say Jesus was born that day TRUE and if you wanna be totaly true it was in the FALL not SUMMER. Just cause we celebrate that day doesnt mean he doesnt exist. I thank God for coming down in the flesh and making the true sacrifice for our sins and made a way for us buy dieing ont he cross.. Dont matter what sign you are or what sign they come up with you are still you and God is still God.....

      January 14, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • nikki

      Wow..Jehovah's really ARE taking over..sad.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amber

      Yes "us christians" know that christmas was a pagan holiday but we also now have changed it so we celebrate the birth of christ, we dont exactly know when christ was born, but we celebrate his birth. There is eveidence everywhere of Gods existence. Its not a fairytale it is a reality. And no where does it say in ther bible that we cannot celebrate christs birth on an ex-pagan holiday. It may have started out as a pagan holiday but it is no longer a pagan holiday. Well at least for "us christians"

      January 14, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      Ok Michael,

      So what you're saying is that since something as simple as Christmas can't be true, surely Christianity and God must be false as well.

      Well... Columbus didn't land on America. Can you believe that! If something as simple as that isn't true... then America MUST NOT EXIST!!

      Michael you're a moron.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • John James Olliver V

      I thought we were talking about zodiac signs here.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      Everyone likes to know something and express opinions. Thats why there's a reply tab. But it shouldn't be about who's views are more correct than the next. Life should be approached to knowledge yourself on peoples belief that are on both sides of the spectrum in this world. Your last thoughts on this planet wont be about petty topics, it will be; Did i live right, was i happy, who do i love etc. The important part of living life is to attain knowledge and happiness. While also making connections with people that benefit both party's along the way.

      There's my insight

      I recommend a viewing of the film Zeitgeist. It has answers to many questions about many religions and the fact that opinions of people in history created a concrete belief in peoples brains today. Along with a couple other head scratching topics. I need to add that if you haven't learned about more than one religion, stop replying with your one sided beliefs please. Intelligence is far more enjoyable to read than an opinion.

      I liked your post Michael. very thought provoking...

      Good luck with the battle of the brains people. I'm going skiing and then jumping in a jacuzzi 🙂

      January 14, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Allie

      I agree, but how is it relevant to the article?

      January 14, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carole

      Christmas was created by the catholic church to coincide with a pagan holiday so their pagan converts would not "miss out" on celebrations. I wouldn't base my disbelief of Christianity on the fact that the catholic church made a lot of stupid mistakes in their time. I don't know that I've ever met anyone with a a good, tangible reason for disbelieving God, but make sure you weigh the evidence before you comment.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      You sounds freaking crazy! No one bullies, the bible doesn't brainwash you. You are crazy!

      January 14, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • stef

      I find it funny how everyone is so quick to bash Christianity... Have you ever stoped to think about what you believe? Most people believe that they are an accident, there is no god therefore we are not created. People want to prove that there is no reason why you are here; you are not special, you just exist so you can go through all the pain in life but have absolutely no real reason to live, because according to what you chose to believe you live just to die anyway... and people wonder why suicide is such a problem. Oh and by the way, any informed Christian knows Jesus was not born in Dec but actually in the middle of the Jewish feast of the tabernacle. Also the science you believe in does not prove that there is no god. In fact if you've ever taken biology you know even the most simple life form is far too complex to be an accident. Making your faith even more radical then mine.

      I do however agree with you on one point. Christians are far too judgemental and happen to be the main reason why people pull away from anything to do with god.
      My only plea is that you make an informed decision for yourself and not let the people who strap themselves to the bible push you away.
      The choice is yours. Do you believe in a science that says you mean nothing and live for no reason, and yet still hasn't proven that there's no god. Or do you chose to believe that you were made by a god who knew how many hairs were on your head before he created the world in which you live?

      The choice is yours.

      January 14, 2011 at 6:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackie

      Who cares about religion? Nobody. It's a matter of Scorpio or Libra? that's all. So take your religious babble to somewhere who wants to hear this crap.

      January 14, 2011 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • ryan

      @jen your a retard straight up lol proove to me you exsist? can you ? you could just be a figment of my imagination?? infact proove to me we arent in the matrix? can you? nope.... you cant proove a concept of god because lets see if "god" created the whole universe and we know .0000000000000000000000000000001% of what goes on in the universe to think we understand anything about god is pretty arogant. Maybe instead of bashing other peoples beliefs that illict love in their lives you should try to find some inner peace lol

      January 14, 2011 at 6:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim


      To answer your question... the relationship between science and religion has to be apparent. Science and Religion do not mesh. People believe in one or the other. As you can see by reading this thread. I personally am a science mind. I would never choose to believe anyones opinions (ie. religion). Science is based on fact. Religion is based on opinionated belief.

      I could get more detailed, but im preparing to forget, that i wasted my time on this silliness. believe what you need to. as long as your internally happy with your beliefs.

      That goes for everyone. Try learning from each other. Don't even bother proving what you believe is more right than the next person. When you do that, you prove your ignorance. Not one person in the entire planet knows the real story. it's all theory from every individual that ever existed on this planet. if you existed 4 billion years ago, im all ears!

      January 15, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      Also, if your a believer in a god (or a son of god), than god is a busy soul. How many planets are there? No one knows. Why would a so called god focus on planet earth? Just one planet. think about it before getting hot and bothered. Religion doesnt add up. Why did the all mighty only start working a some odd thousand years ago with humans? And how did Adam and Eve pass down the story of the birth of earth when they were written in a book billions of years after the planet was created? If any religious believer can answer just those few questions with concrete fact, i might take religion serious... but i have hundreds of more questions to ask before that will ever happen.

      January 15, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  5. MNJ11

    It doesn't matter what/who you believe in... just believe in something. Everyone has a right to believe what they choose freely. But be adult about it and learn to debate things properly. You don't need to call people names or ridicule what they do or don't believe in. Follow what you choose, and be a strong enough and mature enough person to believe in what you chose without having to defend it with childish remarks or snide comments. And by the same token, also be strong enough and mature enough to respect that everyone has a choice whether you agree with it or not. Calling people names or brainwashed or stupid isn't going to help you argue your point; you're just going to make people stop listening to you.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shazbot

      I believe in nachos.

      January 14, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • swedejane

      I believe I'll have another...

      January 14, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • MNJ11...

      If only internet comments ever worked like that haha. People will say whatever they want as long as they don't have to defend it face to face. Which is why the internet SUCKS. I'm going outside.

      January 14, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Billy

      I believe in Nachos too, one more and we can start a church and stop paying taxes and impose our Nacho beliefs on others!

      January 14, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • modchen


      let's go oppress people because they don't! in fact, let's burn some heretics at the stake! WOOHOOOOO!

      January 14, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandy

      actually it DOES matter what and who you believe in. And by calling some people names for what and who they believe in is my freedom of will/ speech. people should know the truth. They shouldn't be subject to lies, bullying, conspiracy,

      January 14, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Squirt08

      I would like Michael to prove to me that God does not exist and I will consider his argument. He sounds just as hypocritcal as those he is bashing!

      January 14, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Walter

      I once saw an image of Nacho on a slice of toast.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • razorspain

      Are reasonable people beginning to speak out on message boards. I believe the end of the world is nigh!

      January 14, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      to the OP – I make it a point /not/ to "believe" anything.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark C

      I do believe in something. I believe that people who believe in astrology are morons.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • SeanNJ

      I believe I'll refuse to believe in believing.

      January 14, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      can I sum it up for y'all? One man's conspiracy is another's dogma. The only way to tell which is which with any certainty is an unbiassed opinion when one is removed from the situation. Unfortunately, that "situation" is this world and by definition, we can't leave it and come back. Therefore we can never know the truth with absolute certainty. So please everyone stop calling your viewpoints the "truth" and see them for what they are, BELIEFS. I love beliefs, they get me through my day (I believe there will be a beer in he fridge and some nachos on th etable when I get home), or through my life (I believe that I should follow Christ's example to live a more just life to get the most out of this existance). To argue someones beliefs are incorrect is idiocy, as they are not facts and hence not subject to the rules of logic. Does that make them any less powerful though? RESOUNDING NO!!!!

      January 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  6. mercfan

    This is the biggest NON-News story of the week. What's next, an expose on how public toilets aren't clean enough?

    January 14, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diego

      On the contrary, they're CLEANER than ATM's:

      This is our news now. Accept it 😛

      January 14, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jon Jon

      Funny thing about public toilets....I saw a story on the news last night stating that ATM keypads are just as dirty with all the bacteria as are public toilets...actually not very funny at all..

      January 14, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • John footpenis

      The only reason this is huge "news" is because of idiots on social network sites complaining about how their beloved sign has changed. If they love it so damn bad then they should do some research on it so their not do hurt to find out something that's been known for so long. Retards shouldn't be Allowed in public so what makes the internet different?

      January 14, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  7. ara

    Song about this : Serpentarious Space Girl she's from Ophiucus!!

    January 14, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Nikki

    I can clear all this useless chatter up. The article is about Astrology. Astrology has nothing to do with religion. There is always that one person who has to bring religion, race, or politics in where it doesn't belong. These people are pathetic. Lets get back to the articles topic.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • VICKI


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    • Bob

      Actually , religion is all based upon the zodiac, everything and it's a complete lie, there was literally thousands " son of god" in other religions well before Jesus. Look up jorus, the Egyptian god. Same story, Born miraculously dec 25, resurrected from the dead, the similarities continue.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • freeman

      Well, the militant anti-religious don't have anything else to do than to fabricate opportunities to tell those who believe in something greater than themselves that they're stupid.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Brian

    Astronomy is bull anyway.
    Here's a good take down of the subject:
    And if the link doesn't show up, just google "phil plait bad astrology" and you'll find the right stuff.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Raven

      Astronomy is the study of the stars, its not bull, look at the sky at night and you see stars. Astrology is about the zodiac. In other words here's your sign!

      January 14, 2011 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  10. the norse smithy

    i find it funny that one of the most talked about thing is Christianity here. constant disbelief doesn't prove that your point of view is right. why don't you find definitive proof that god absolutely cannot exist insted of using material that has never proven your point. i challenge you. god left his mark everywhere, but the proof you chose not to except. science changes constantly why would you want to put blind faith in something that relys on human interpretation.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carl W

      Can you prove that flying unicorns don't exist?

      January 14, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Terrapin

      I think its hilarious that you used the phrase "blind faith" to describe science...

      January 14, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • freeman

      What does any of that have to do with Astrology?

      January 14, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seraphim0

      Eh... the burden of proof is on the person proving something, not disproving something exists. That leaves a little problem in what you say. If I told you to prove that the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist, could you? No, the burden of proof would be on me or some pastafarian.

      Anyway... may Jormangandr munch on your bones.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • adh8511

      what is your proof that god's "markings" are everywhere?. a collection of stories written by human interpretation.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • sunsohot

      "why would you want to put blind faith in something that relys (sic) on human interpretation".....for instance, like the bible?
      Get back to the subject of the article – ASTROLOGY – it's not about anyone's god

      January 14, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
  11. ThemKitties

    Btw, just in case you missed the memo..astrology is completely and utter 100% wrong. It is not real. Kthnx

    January 14, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • ...

      u may think that butr not all do. Its suprizingly acurate most of the time from what i can tell. not with daily and mothly stuff but still. and no i dont really belive i just find it interesting

      January 14, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christovich

      According to? Give us a reference or something. I can type in a bunch of words too.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • ahaha

      Lol. u mad ThemKitties?

      January 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  12. casings

    Where does a belief in Creationism contradict any modern theories?

    January 14, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth: this contradicts science, which has shown us that Earth is about half the age of the universe.

      There are more, but if the first line in the whole book is off, you make a supposition about the rest.

      January 14, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • qmob

      Seriously? Ever heard of evolution?

      January 14, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark C

      Contradict any modern theories? Good god, you're an idiot. It contradicts every known observed FACT about biology, geology and physics for starters.

      January 14, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
  13. TK

    yes, I trust CNN completely -.-

    last time I checked, until today when CNN says "oh no no! we don't follow THAT kind of zodiac, we follow THIS KIND, don't worry!" the position of the zodiac in comparison with the sun and day of the year determined what you were. That's the way its always been. the seasonal aspect of it has to do with organization, if anything. try and equate the position of planets as well as the moon into Earth's seasons, if you want to get down to technical zodiac astrology.

    but thanks for the effort, CNN. It was a nice cushion to the blow of realizing I have to turn my virgo tramp stamp into a lion.

    January 14, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • jMO

      A lot of emotion and education here, about the Babylonians the sky, the EQUINOX, THANK YOU and ...Yes, this WAS about the "new zodiac sign"...At first I was skeptical, as it was abrupt to hear this, I would have figured we would have heard something of this before...(maybe I'm not looking at the right material)...when I think about the fact that our planets electromagnetic field is shifting, has been and will for a while...(due to the wobble?), and how the motion of planets, the moon, all activity in the sky affect human behavior...FULL MOON...I'm thinking it could be possible that something inside us may be shifting?? And the rare sign is part of the equation, balancing, signs shifting...I mean we ALL have an electromagnetic field...that is proven. Any one get this? Productive conversation please. : )

      January 14, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Benjamin Zhao

    From when CNN became so entertaining?

    January 14, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Nathan

    Yeah, all people born in January are like such and such, and this and that will happen to all of them...But if you're Asian, subtract one month...Simple!!

    January 14, 2011 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
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