Hezbollah stages coup drills in Beirut as indictments loom, newspapers say
A pro-Hezbollah cleric spray paints his family name on a banner in Sidon supporting caretaker Prime Minister Saad Hariri.
January 19th, 2011
11:16 AM ET

Hezbollah stages coup drills in Beirut as indictments loom, newspapers say

Militants fanned out across Beirut and reportedly staged coup drills as political unrest continued to percolate in the country, Lebanese and Israeli media outlets reported.

Operatives from Hezbollah and Amal, both Shiite groups, gathered in groups of up to 30 at a dozen strategic points in the Lebanese capital Tuesday, The Jerusalem Post said.  Included were sea ports, the airport and entries to the city, the newspaper reported.

Though Ghaleb Abu Zeinab, a member of Hezbollah’s political bureau, told The Post he wasn’t aware of any such drills, parents pulled their children from school after seeing people dressed in black and carrying hand-held radios.

A mother of three picking up her children in the Hamra area of the capital said the school contacted her “because the security situation is not good,” The Daily Star in Beirut reported.

One gathering was about 400 yards from the Grand Serall, downtown Beirut’s government seat, forcing security officials to close the roads to the building, The Post said.  The men were unarmed and no trouble was reported, according to various media.

Sources told The Daily Star that the men appeared well-organized and were seen in west Beirut, downtown and in the southern suburb of Hadath.

The drill came as Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan sat down for talks with Lebanese politicians, including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, aimed at heading off sectarian strife in the country, The Daily Star reported.

Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad is also involved in the talks, and he met with Lebanese Army Gen. Jean Kahwaji to discuss a potential role for the Syrian army in achieving security and stability in Lebanon, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency said.

An earlier joint mediation effort by Syria and Saudi Arabia fell apart this week, and Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal told al-Arabiya that his nation abandoned its efforts because the situation was dangerous.

“If the situation reaches full separation and (regional) partition, this means the end of Lebanon as a state that has this model of peaceful cohabitation between religions and ethnicities,” al-Faisal told the station.

A coalition led by caretaker Prime Minister Saad Hariri viewed the drills as a rehearsal for what might happen if Hezbollah is accused of involvement in the bombing that killed Hariri’s father and 22 others in 2005, according to The Daily Star.

“The orchestrated gatherings carried out by members of Hezbollah and its allies for more than two hours … were aimed at sending a clear message to the Lebanese about preparations to stage riots and also a similar message to the Qatari and Turkish foreign ministers who are visiting Lebanon today,” Hariri’s Movement of the Future said in a statement.

The U.N.-backed Special Tribunal for Lebanon handed down a draft indictment that Israel’s Haaretz newspaper said indicts several Hezbollah members in the assassination. The International Court of Justice at The Hague, Netherlands, has not released specifics of the indictment for fear of provoking violence in Beirut.

The tribunal has no police force and relies on national authorities to arrest suspects, something Hezbollah has said it would never do, according to Haaretz.

Hezbollah has repeatedly denied involvement in the bombing and says the tribunal is an “American-Israeli tool” for stoking sectarian violence in Lebanon, The Daily Star reported.

A source close to Hezbollah further told the newspaper that Tuesday’s drills were “a small message to say that the time for talk is over.”

Other sources close to Hezbollah told The Jerusalem Post that the drills were “a real exercise to test the readiness of any such plan to take over Beirut and its periphery, including entries, the port, waters and the airport.”

The Post cited another source who said that Hezbollah wants to avoid a civil war like the one that killed tens of thousands in Lebanon between 1975 and 1990. Rather, the group would prefer to “deal directly with the U.N. and the International Court.”

The U.N. building in central Beirut could be one of Hezbollah’s future targets, a source told the newspaper.

Eleven members of Hariri’s 30-member Cabinet resigned last week as the prime minister was meeting U.S. President Barack Obama at the White House. The move brought down Lebanon’s unity government and prompted several mediation efforts.

Hezbollah, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department, had been pressuring the government to reject the tribunal’s investigation into the bombing that killed Hariri’s father, who resigned as prime minister the year before his death.

Hezbollah blames the bombing on Israel, while many Lebanese people have blamed Syria, which had immense influence in Lebanon at the time.

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  1. EternalBliss

    Lebanon.. will be far better off with a majority Hezbollah government.... in practical terms.. Hezbollah has been the main form of government for most of the Lebanese ppl for a long time now.. also being that the majority of ppl in Lebanon are Shia.. it also seems like the democratic thing as well.. not to mention that the "official" government has been unstable simply because it is much more corrupt and fails at serving the ppls interests..

    January 19, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ghassan

      Unfortunately western countries/ Saudi would not prefer that as it interferes with their interests. For democracy to work in Lebanon they have to actually get rid of all sectarian barriers within the Lebanese government. Everything has time, things always work out. I just hope the Lebanese people don't fail to realize their enemy is it's southern neighbor and they should always be prepared for any Israeli aggression.

      January 19, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • jay

      @ concerned citizen

      Hezbollah is a terrorist organization is your eyes ....In others it is liberator of oppression

      Just because they do not follow your thought ideaology it does not mean they are wrong

      January 19, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Laffin

      Jay, I'm waiting for the day when they liberate the Lebanese people from military infrastructure within civilian areas. They're not liberators, they are subjugators... evidenced by this latest move and previous threats of a coup.

      January 19, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • sticksnstones

      Hezbo is cool; just a matter of time now until we can start throwing rocks at chick's heads popping out of the Lebanese sand, too.

      January 19, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • The_Mick

      There are still more Christians in Lebanon than there are Shiites. In fact, the nation used to be majority Christian until we began to turn our backs on them in the 60's.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • muhrvis

      Yes, there might be Shia majority, but armed militias rehearsing on the streets for a coup is not "Democratic."

      January 19, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matty13

      EternalBliss, you wrote, " Hezbollah has been the main form of government for most of the Lebanese ppl for a long time now.. also being that the majority of ppl in Lebanon are Shia." Hezbollah is NOT a form of Government. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization funded by Iran and Syria. The majority of ppl in Lebanon are NOT Shia. Lebanon is 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Sunni, and 1/3 Shia. I would not want Hezbollah legislating laws if I were a Christian or Sunni.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • cyrus

      I AGREE COMPLETELY. I LOVE LEBANON AND HEZBOLLAH IS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF LEBANON!

      January 19, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rod Venger

      Unless one is an Islamist, putting an extremist group in to lead a government is hardly practical, and calling oneself "EternalBliss" is an obscenity.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • deac

      The government has been corrupt because of Hezbollah. That's the reason they walked out of the government...because they have been implemented in the UN's investigation of the murder of Rafik

      January 19, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • mchport

      Arab Voice: This article is not about Israe., but maggots like you use every opportunity to spit zoological hatred at the only humane and moral society amidst stone age fanatical mob. Your mullah shoulod be proud of you.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Canada

      Only 30% of Lebanon is Shia, Another 30% is Sunni and another 30% is Maronite... do your research.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Darrell

      There is no majority in Lebanon. You folks need to learn to get along with your fellow countrymen. Religion is a topic for discussion at the family dinner table or at your house of worship. Do not take God out into the streets. You will find the Devil there instead. Anytime you feel hatred rise up, that is the Devil at work. Matters not your religion what matters is what is in your heart.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • 4Benji

      Like the" A pro-Hezbollah cleric spray paints his family name on a banner in Sidon supporting caretaker Prime Minister Saad Hariri." in the picture? His family name seems to be very messy! Hezbollah is a terrorist org. It is one of the fingers of Iran – It will have to be eliminated before any peace comes to Lebanon.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      That has got to be one of the fattest and oldest TAGGERS I have ever seen with my own eyes!

      January 19, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • GetOutOfMyCountry

      It's uneducated garbage like you that support these thugs that are destroying our country. Anywhere you find a high number of Shia you will find low levels of education, poverty, and disgustingly dirty neighborhood.
      We don't want you, your Hizbollah, or your Iran. Get out.
      You love them so much, pack your bags, and take off to Iran or Syria – All of you.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hilda Lebanese

      Lebanon is for all the Lebanese. I am Lebanese, I don't the people here putting comments. I lived through the civil war, there is no way the turmoil to end unless all parties come together and solve the problems and live in peace. Any party takes over the war will go on and on...such a sad sad day for me. I live in the US now, but couldn't stop crying all day. Only the people who lived through the horrors of the Lebanese war know what it means. Very sad. Hope the leaders there realize that war will not solve any problems. Taking over and defeating the other party will not make things betters.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • dalri

      According to Hezbollah's published ideology in the "Hizballah Program", the organization cannot tolerate governmental rule shared with those who do not adhere to sharia (islamic) law. The tempering of its views on women and democracy are due to its attempts to gain ground in Lebanon, with its written code still maintaining extremely oppressive rhetoric. Its ties to Iran will do not thing to bring about autonomy for the Lebanese people, and will bring it into further conflict with its neighbors.

      January 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Muhammad Aiye-Aish

      I don’t know if CNN will publish this, but my name is Muhammad, I am a Shia engineer who lives in Beirut, & the facts are that Hezbollah is totally guilty of Hariri’s murder, and of wanting to totally take Lebanon. They have no interest in peace, they are funded by Iran & Syria and wish to make all the middle east a Shia run fundamentalist way of life. My father is a backer of Hezbollah & would just as soon kill me publicly if he knew of my comments here today- the way of life is nothing but disaster. Hariri was killed because he was tired of their crap, lies, evilness & garbage. Let’s see Mr. Obama’s leadership now… If Hezbollah makes a war with the ‘Lebanese & Israel’ and Israel bombs Iran to protect itself, you’ll quickly see Russia & China get involved on the side of the Iranians… Where is this going? And for those who will insult my comments- do your homework… The Shia are crazy people, they’d rather die in the name of Islam then have peace any day of the week- please God help our small country of Lebanon…

      January 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • anopinion

      Hezbollah is a terrorist organization funded by Iran to control Lebanon. They use the money from Iran to for social projects as well as for terrorist activity. Hezbollah is not interested in what is best for Lebanon, but instead what is best for Iran. Furhtermore, they are a fundamentalist organization that wants to limit individual freedom and replace it with Islamic law.

      January 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • EJ

      Yes, by all means, hand the country over to the thugs and terrorists.

      January 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chimo

      Yeah right, Lebanon should be controlled by a bunch of Islamo Nazi Goose Stepping a%#holes who want to eradicate Israel and who also blame all theor problems on Israel just because it gets them mileage in the corrupt Islamic arab world. All the leftist maggots who always whine about how terrible Israel is, are satisfied to sit on their hands and do nothing as hezbollah slowly destroys Lebanon. Not one word of protest from the United Nations about the impending hezbollah coup. that's why Israel should ignore the europeans and never give the arabs any territory

      January 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • yre

      Hezballah is good for the Lebanese people as much as the taliban was good for the Afghani people. hezballah needs to coward back to Iran and wreak havoc on the iranian governement. They should let the Lebanese people have a break from war that they have experienced over the past 4 decades.

      One thing I still don't understand though . . . why is it that every country ruled by islamic law must turn back the clocks of time 40 or 50 years with respect to human rights, religious freedom and freedom of expression? If hezballah takes control of Lebanon, the Paris of the middle east will become a second Tehran. How wonderful that would be . . .

      January 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eric of Reseda

      Ooops! You lost me at "democratic". As we all know, there is no such thing as 'democracy' in the Muslim Middle East.

      January 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Brieske

      Arab Voice. You don't know what the fuk your talking about!! Israel did not lose The 34 Day War, the cowardly terrorist sponsoring baby killer Arab populations in countries like Egypt, Lebanon and Syria begged them to stop. Then Obama came in and he is the closest to a terrorist sympathizer we have ever had for a president.
      I wanted a total annihilation of Gaza. Had I gotten my way, everyone would have been killed in Gaza. Just to show the world this is what happens you refuse to quit firing rockets at a much more powerful country. You all die. Everyone is a fair target.
      You haven't a clue about anything. Your thinking is that of false prophet believing fool. Yes, Muhammed is fraud. How do I know? Because God (if you'd ever spoken with him) would never ever give permission for Muhammed to sleep with his nephew's wife Zaynab. Which is what Muhammad told his nephew God said.
      Muslims are brainwashed retards.
      jim

      January 19, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sittingbull

      HEZBOLLAH IS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF LEBANON!
      ============
      Only if you hate freedom

      January 19, 2011 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • phx doc

      to CNN.. the pic with the guy is nothing like a Hezbollah guy! better check your sources...
      all lebanese "unity" governments end up being a group of corrupt people anyhow so it might be better not to have an agreement on forming such a gvt for once in this poor country! might be better for it's people!!

      January 19, 2011 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Brieske

      Just in case correction: It may not be called The 34 Day War . That may have been the war in Lebanon. It could be called the Gaza War. Can't remember for sure and too tired to find the definitive answer.
      jim

      January 19, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • J100409

      It is not clear what proportion of Lebanon is made up of any particular religious group as there has been a bloody civil war and massive emigration since the last census. The Shiites are probably the biggest group now, and very possibly the majority, but it is not at all clear, and the numbers change dramatically when one counts the Lebanese living abroad from fear of renewed civil war or a Hezbollah takeover.

      January 19, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gonri

      I wonder what is the involvement of Syria in this matter. In 1982 Assad ( the father of the current Assad – head of Syria) killed 20,000 Muslems in Alhamra, Syria. I wonder what his son plans now in Lebanon.

      January 19, 2011 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gonri

      I wonder what is the involvement of Syria in this matter. In 1982 Assad ( the father of the current Assad – head of Syria) killed 20,000 Muslems in Alhama, Syria. I wonder what his son plans now in Lebanon. For more info ceck "Hama massacre" in Wikipedia

      January 19, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • harrison Ford

      Hebullcrap can do anything they wish, One day is coming soon, wait moron, ........ Hezbollah hmmmm

      Scare tactics, and thats all you could come up with, your weapons are toys, wait and see. You really wish to see killing.

      When your civilian run for Syria next time, 1 million will DIE ON THE ROAD DIRTBAG, THEY WILL GET SLAUGHTERED and MASSACRED ......... HEY MORON don't PEE OFF! What goes around WILL COME AROUND, so shut your pir hole

      January 19, 2011 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Happyreaper5

      To the Jays of the world: You all sound like the old Black September murderers redefining the words terrorist and liberator which is just plain silly. By any objective standard, Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and should be wiped out just like every Al Qaeda pinhead still extant. I really think you folks are underestimating the capabilities of the U.S. and Israel. Cheerio!

      January 19, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gonri

      Hisbulah is hated by most Lebanoies because of the autrocities it brought on Lebanon during the last war against Israel. His leaders plan another war against israel which may hurt Israel but will destroy Lebanon infrastructure in totality. Most Lebanonies would like to make money, enjoy life and have peace. Hisbulah, on the other and serves the interests of Iran – not Lebanon. In addition Hisbulah was declared a terror organization by the US.

      January 19, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul

      Hezbollah doesn't care about the people of Lebanon, they care about themselves. They are terrorists. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not educated in the subject matter. Google or Wikipedia Hezbollah, look at their actions in the past, try to justify those please.

      January 19, 2011 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • FYI

      There are 10 million Lebanese outside Lebanon, the majority of which is not Shiite.

      January 19, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • KBinMN

      @ Jay – "Just because they do not follow your thought ideaology it does not mean they are wrong." The Nazi's also did follow my thought ideaology. Does that mean they also weren't wrong. Misunderstood perhaps? While we're at it maybe Stalin was just anti-social.

      January 19, 2011 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • KBinMN

      Oops! Make that the Nazi's did NOT follow my thought ideaology.

      January 19, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Small Business Dog Days

    @EternalBliss: Just because the people prefer Hezbollah does not mean they're the way to go. They are a terrorist organization according to the US State Department, and have attacked Israel with the sole intent of killing Jewish people. They believe Islam should dominate the world, and will not step their violence. Israel is going to wind up invading after they launch a 9/11 style attack on Israeli soil.

    The majority of Afghans were pro-Taliban. The majority of Germans were pro-Nazi. Sometimes the people are just dumb. Democracy only works when the people are stable, and can make smart choices.

    January 19, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • mark

      are you insane? show me a quote that says Hezbollah wants to take over the world and make everyone muslim. Show me a quote I dare you.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kraznodar

      You are incorrect – the Nazis never enjoyed more than 20% support in Germany, they just never had more than about 15% opposition. The Taliban was never overly popular in Afghanistan it was just that they were more stable than the Communists. History shows that it only takes about 20% active popular support to convince sufficient numbers of others to go along for the ride.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • TheHerald

      "http://www.standwithus.com/pdfs/flyers/hezbollah_program.pdf"

      January 19, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • MuddyBuddy

      The Taliban did not replace the communist in Afghanistan, they did not even exist then. They were formed to take control when the people who did drive the Russians out and overthrew the communists fell apart fighting. The Taliban never had majority support for anything than stopping the violence. Hezbollah might get the same thing, but they are the ones committing the violence.

      That being said, they need to allow the Shia's in the government through elections. That is assuming they are Lebanese and not refugees from elsewhere. In other words, if they want to vote, they have to become Lebanese permanently and be willing to put Lebanese concerns first, or in other words stop attacking your powerful, and very well armed neighbor.

      January 19, 2011 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • dalri

      Hezbollah, 1988: http://www.standwithus.com/pdfs/flyers/hezbollah_program.pdf

      January 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Ghassan

    "This is what happens when you let Islam, especially Islamic terrorists, into your country." You like to stereotype with your bs comment don't you? As long as Israeli aggression exists Hezbollah is needed as the Lebanese army is not fit for the job to defend Lebanon at this time. This so called "U.N.-backed Special Tribunal for Lebanon" is simply a farce fabricated by the Zionists to shift focus on what's happening to the Palestinians and to create division within Lebanon to destroy it. We know what they plan and don't worry Islam will prevail. Stop interfering in our countries and mind your damn business we will progress without you. Lebanon will soon be Hezbollahistan 😉

    January 19, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Momo

      Ghassan and Mo, or should I say Mohamed,??
      I like to drink the same cool-aid you are drinking.
      Which world are you living in? Hezbollah are one of the most terroristic group that exsit and back by the @#$#@ Iranian leaders.
      Lebanon is gone,,,,

      January 19, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • MidWestKev

      The UN setting up a puppet tribunal controlled by Israel? Wow, I though the UN hated Israel?

      January 19, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arab Voice

      I suppose the US and Israel care about this world, and democracy in the region? Hezbolla is a terrorist organisation by US and Israeli standards, not by the standards of the 300 million Arabs who live around it! And their sole purpose is to liberate Lebanon and Palestine and establish an Islamic state. What do you guys know about Islam? Have you engaged yourselves in understanding it or simply are repeating what you hear and see in the media? For your information the US declared Hezbolla a terrorist organisation when they were fighting the Israeli army in southern Lebanon trying to liberate it. They hadn't done a single attack on the Israelis outside Lebanon! THEY WERE FIGHTING ISRAELIS IN LEBANON when they declared it a terrorist organisation. Look at the Israeli track record of human rights, violations, torture, OCCUPATION, and look at how many times the US has vetoed every single attempt to passing a resolution (even a condemnation only) against the Israelis. You'll see why people are upset with the west. This double standard sickens most of us here.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • muhrvis

      Hezbollah needs to defend Lebanon from what? Are you saying that Israel would attack Lebanon if the Hezbollah were not present? Right... Israel wants to divide the Lebanese but I am sure Hezbollah wants to be go arm-in-arm with the Christians and share with everyone else. Please be honest.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arab Voice

      Israelis want a weak and corrupt Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt etc. And yes, they would do anything to maintain this dominance and have done so successfully may i add. But the people of the region are fed up with this. Hezbolla is comprised of those people who are fed up of Israeli occupation and US policies.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • iamrael

      Arab Voice – Then tell me why did Hezbollah cross into Israel in 2006 and kidnap and then kill 3 Israeli soldiers? Hezbollah is the aggressor, trying to make a name for itself at the expense of peace. It's an extremist religious and militant organization with no inteest in peace or democracy. Israel's only interest in Lebanon is to have a quiet northern border – that's all. Israel has no territorial ambitions in Lebanon and never has. The only reason Israel ever entered into Lebanon was to stop PLO and Hezbollah terrorists from attacking Israel. Israel has no interest in destabilization – to the contrary, they want stability and peace to continue to grow their economy and live in a free democracy – something maybe its Arab neighbors should try.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris210

      americans have no business sticking our nose in everything that goes on around the world! This world that we live in is cruel and ruthless, it always has been and always will be so why do we (USA) always try and get involved with other countries issues!? Let those people be, if they wanna blow themselves up on a daily basis then FINE so be it.....americans and jews fear muslims because of the lack of care that they have for their own lives and rightfully so....these people wanna be left alone on their "homeland" then let them be because they will never grow or prosper, they just wanna be left alone and continue to live in caves and mud huts SO LET THEM BE!!! We need to leave iraq and afghanistan ASAP because we have no business being over there! Americans wouldn't like it too much if hezbollah, taliban, or any other whacked out terrorist group came to our country so why should we be in theirs!?!

      January 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • jo

      its funny how ur ppl think the west is the bad guys and ur the good guys, then we think ur the bad guys and we're good . i have a good idea no one is good but were all evil and dumb living and god, allah is waiting to punish everyone that has hatred in them or fallows revenge for the past needlistly u cannot live a divin life with fighting and blood

      January 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chimo

      This is the exact reason why I don't blame Israel one bit for holding onto the settlements and also building houses for Jews in Eastern Jerusalem. I really used to be all for the peace process, and at one time was in favor of the "land for peace" formula, but jew haters like you who support Hezbollah and blame everything on "the zionist occupiers" which is a lie, since they are descendants of the original hebrews and arre the rightfull owners of the land. It's obvious that the islamic people of the middle east want to kill off Israel, so as far as I'm concerned, Israel has the right to take whatever it needs ofr security

      January 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • stopTheLie

      @ArabVoice – Hizbullah has never attacked Israel outside of Lebanon you say? How about Argentina, is it a Beirut neighborhood as well?

      http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/argentina.html

      January 19, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Mo

    @Small Business Dog Days: Educate yourself. Hezbollah does not think Islam should dominate the world nor do they attack Israel to kill jews. And just because the US State department says something, that doesn't make it so.

    January 19, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • JEff B

      MOron

      January 19, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Csinaco

      I hope they all kill each other off and save the rest of the planet from their constant "drama"... no civilized person CARES about these idiots that fail to intellectually evolve along with the rest of the human race. These simpletons are perfectly at home living in the Middle Ages, except for C4, mobile phones and TV's, of course..

      January 19, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arab Voice

      civilised people should not interfere in other countries' . If you're civil you'd leave us alone. but for almost 100 years you've been carving our countries up, supporting dictators, and occupying our countries. So please don't give a damn if we kill each other. So leave us alone. you see where the problem is? its in your so called democratic governments who won't leave others (5000 kilometers away) alone.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kraznodar

      Between France, Germany and the UK as well as the USA, Western nations have been mucking around in the Mideast for over 200 years. Before that you have the whole Eastern Roman Empire thing going on as well. The simple fact is that empire building is human nature. I find it odd that a non-democracy such as Syria is one of the most tolerant in the world. Lebanon used to be the same. I don't know why it fell apart but I wish Lebanon the best in the future. As for blaming Israel for wanting to exist, I have found a number of incidents where the Israelis tried to partner with the Palestinians for a 2 party state and the Palestinians turned them down. There is enough blame on both sides.

      When organizations that presume to represent Palestinians start hunting other Palestinians as if they were dogs, such as we have seen with Hamas, it removes any legitimacy from claims of Palestinian sovereignty.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Laffin

    Hezbollah wasn't defending Lebanon against Israel when they attacked Israel a few years ago. But they certainly brought hell down upon Lebanon by kidnapping those Israeli soldiers, refusing to release them, and firing rockets into Israel.

    Anyone who thinks that this demonstration by Hezbollah is laudable, is insane. This is a show of power and an outright demonstration of a guilty conscience.

    January 19, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arab Voice

      Laffin...please tell the correct story or ask someone who knows about it before you make your judgment. Look at where it started. Israelis occupy areas of southern lebanon, occupy Palestine, hold 11,000 prisoners (plenty of torture). If it was your country wouldn't you want it liberated? Do you know how many children are living in Israeli prisons? Would you accept it if your country was occupied, your people (some relatives even) tortured and imprisoned, your land confiscated, forced to live in tents for 50 years?

      January 19, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      @Arab Voice: Where was the violent retaliation during Syria's occupation? Also, you are simply choosing to look one step farther back. Do you know WHY Israeli ever occupied foreign lands in the first place? Because they were violent. Does the Arab attack on Israel in 1948 ring a bell? PLO violence from Lebanon that brought Israel in to occupy the south? Also, do YOU know how many "children" are held in Israeli prisons? Or is this just a line you repeat over and over because it sounds sensational? You really have no idea. There could be 1000. There could be 0. And what would you call "children"? Your so-called "heroes" like Samir Kuntar, a 15 year old kid who took a boat to Israel and killed a policeman, a civilian man, and his 4 year old daughter? It's no wonder places like Lebanon have such violent radicals. Look at the people you idolize.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kraznodar

      Arab Voice – No, if the nations surrounding me declared that my nation mush be wiped from the face of the Earth I would not sit idle. I would invade Lebanon exactly as Israel did when Lebanon supported Syrian and Palestinian forces trying to massacre the Israelis. You made a good point – the Arabs are to blame for trying to exterminate the Jews. The original Israel was pretty tiny but each time the Muslim world attacked them they expanded to build a much bigger buffer zone. It makes sense militarily. Too bad the Israelis didn't go in for the whole extra taxes and persecution thing that Islam promotes. Since Palestinians are active in Israeli politics and sit in the Israeli government, I'm wondering where the matching example of tolerance is from the Hezbollah side. Can you find one?

      January 19, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Laffin

      The correct story is that in 1982, the PLO was attacking Israel from Lebanon and had been for YEARS. Israel entered Lebanon to stop the PLO. Hezbollah formed that SAME YEAR. So, it's not as though they formed to fight some longstanding occupation.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • anopinion

      @Arab Voice. Your comments show that you don;t care at all about Lebanon, but only want to impose fundamentalist Islamic laws on Lebanon, and turn it into an arm of Iran. Why should Lebanon care about the Palestinians? Why should Lebanon care about Hezbollah prisoners held by Israel? They shouldn't. They are a democracy, and Hezbollah is fed up that they don't have enough influence to turn the democracy to their own agenda, by using money from Iran to bribe the citizens into electing them into positions of power. So now they're trying to take over by force. I know you don't care about Lebanon, Arab Voice. You only care about spreading Islamic propaganda to try to create and maintain Islamic states in that region of the world. If you really cared about the Palestinians, you would be blaming Egypt, Syria, Iran, etc. for abandoning those people, and using them as pawns in their war against Israel.

      January 19, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • J100409

      @Arab_voice: Even the UN thinks that the Shebaa Farms are part of Israel. According to the internationally agreed blue-line, Israel is no longer occupying any of Lebanon, and hasn't been for many years.

      January 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Happyreaper5

      Geez, the Arab countries and Iran are a mess and have always been so. Just a bunch of screwed up people ruled by screwed up dictators. My money's on the IDF if the bad guys try anything, which they probably will. Best to position a U.S. carrier group off Lebanon's coast and wait for the order.

      January 19, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • crawbar

      Arab voice, you are a real Arab voice not differing from other Arab voices – obnoxiously lying voice.

      January 19, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
  6. seth

    if you have a religion that you will neglect science and reason and compassion of fellow human beings for...then it sounds like the progress of mankind has failed. islam judaism christianity...all are farces to give hopelessly unimaginative ppl the belief that they kno the answers of life and the universe. fun fact, no one does

    January 19, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Radu

      The best sollution for Lebanon is that each community live by its own and the common state dissappear. I think their system for chunking the political power by religious lines is absolutely childish, not to say idiotic. It is an international experiment that miserably failed by killing so many peoples. Unfortunately it seems to be implemented also in Iraq today and it follows the same path. Wake up. Sometimes if you live with a partner that hates you you should better separate.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  7. sabine

    Ghassan- Really? Hizboullah is a Zionist creation? have you lived in Lebanon in the last 30 years? have you seen the bullet hioes in our buildings? the dead men, women , children? have you seen Rafik Hariri blow up to pieces? What does any of this have to do with the Israelis? what they do in Palestine is their problem, don't shift focus let's focus on Lebanon!!! you really want people pulling their kids from school, men in black walking everywhere, downtown Beirut loosing all its peace, people being scared again, bomb exploding??? really!!!!! How about Hizboullah is being funded by Iran because they can't stand the unity of different religions, educated people and our border to the meditterenian in Lebanon!!! Israel is not innocent but I can guarantee they are not funding these Islamist morons!!!!

    January 19, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
  8. TheHerald

    Lebanon's enemy is not Israel. It is instead the destabilizing forces of Syria, Iran and other Arab countries as well as the strident militarism of Islamists represented by Hezbollah. In some ways Lebanon has brought it on themselves by failing to treat Palestinians within her borders with dignity. The same mistreatment is true in Syria, Jordan, Kuwait, Egypt and other countries. You reap what you sow.

    January 19, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • jack sheet

      Amen. Speaking as a Lebanese who loves Lebanon, you are right.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • TheHerald

      Thank you Jack. That means a lot to me.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      True. If you want to see mistreatment and neglect of Palestinians, Palestine's Arab neighbours earn a lot of the blame that they throw on Israel. Though with Lebanon, keep in mind that the PLO didn't exactly make the Palestinians a welcome group in Lebanon. They were the ones who brought an Israeli invasion in the first place with their extremist violence. They forced their violent plight onto the people of Lebanon (granted Lebanon had been involved in previous wars with Israel, but only to a minor extent).

      January 19, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  9. I am

    All for religion, for someone or something we only hear and read about, from a book or a preachers mouth, all words and phrases that came from someone else and someone else and someone else and so on. Over the days, over the weeks and years, over the centuries. All for religion and belief. All with different interpretations.
    (just thought I'd get it off my chest after reading all the terrorists issues)

    January 19, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Richard

    If Hezbollah ever dares to try to take over the Lebanese government they will face a people's revolt against them just like what happened in Tunisia! The truth is Hezbollah has lost respect of the Lebanese people during the last war with Israel. They will fall and fall hard.

    January 19, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • jack sheet

      Hate to say it but wishful thinking. If they are powerful enough to challenge the world's 4th most powerful military (Israel), who in Lebanon will be able to stand up to them? Don't forget, the Lebanese army is majority Shiite and will automatically move over to be a part of Hizballah. Lebanon is doomed. Old saying: "A house divided will never stand".

      January 19, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arab Voice

      good point Jack Sheet on the strength of hezbolla. I'd like to add that Lebanon is 30% shiite with full support to Hezbolla. At least half of the other 70% is in support of Hezbolla so that makes it 65% of the population supporting them. As for Lebanon doomed, well, when you got 65% of the population supporting it i would say Lebanon is saved and stronger. Islam for your information is a great religion. Talk to some Islamic scholars to understand it and get your hands on some reliable sources instead of hearing about it from the western media.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • jack sheet

      Arab Voice – my comment about the strength of Hizballa was not meant as a compliment so please do not feel flattered. They are powerful because Iran has spent a substantial part of its petro dollars on making them its proxy army in the heart of the Sunni Arab world. As to their fight with Israel, everyone knows (even the Iranians) that they will never win. But Iran is satisfied because they now have a thorn in the heart of Sunni Islam. If Islam is such a great religion, why can Moslems not be friendly even with each other?

      January 19, 2011 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Adam

    It's Jason Seigel!

    January 19, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  12. khalid

    You should read about islam befor making commets and listining to most medias that wants to mislead you about islam , so dont be ignorent and keep saying islam and terrorists islam means peace , how come you dont say about a guy that shoots a state offical a terrorist or some one that starts shooting in a school fulll of kids terrorist. dont be ignorent and start using your brain instead of just using your imotions .

    January 19, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Canada

      Kids who shoot up schools or insane people who shoot government officials, don't do it in the name of a "Peaceful" religion, they do not have a cause..this is the difference.

      January 19, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • bleh

      great religion? by teaching people to suicide bomb? and kill those who oppose them? yah right...

      January 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • crawbar

      khalid, something in what you say does not go together with reality. Arab countries fought with one another fiercely through the whole history of Islam, sunni kill shia, shia kill sunni, the hatred between them is terrible. Islamists commit murders and terrorist acts all around the world, the muslim husbands kill their wifes and daughters per Islam instructions. Muslim children are taught in schools to hate other people and commit terrorist acts...What peacefulness you are talking about?

      January 19, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Anon

    I laugh my ass off when people think Hezbolla or Hamas or Al-queda ...etc wants their own country. You guys do know they are all no better or worse than each other right?
    The world needs to be rid of these 3 evil, murdering groups of hate.

    January 19, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  14. mark

    khalid, It does not help your case when you mis-spell the words to ignorant

    January 19, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arab Voice

      Mark...is that all you've got to say? lets hear you speak Arabic, English and French? I suppose the world should speak english and spell it right...you're sick and naive.

      January 19, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kraznodar

      Points: Arab Voice 1, Mark 0

      January 19, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • MuddyBuddy

      Well its an English language forum, so you should spell correctly, however that does not mean you are wrong on your basic point.

      January 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  15. logicmaster

    all muslim extremists must die.

    January 19, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kraznodar

      Why stop at Muslim extremists? How about Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Atheistic and just plain confused extremists?

      January 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • MuddyBuddy

      The confused extremists should only get 20 years in jail

      January 19, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
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