Tough times for men and women in blue
Law enforcement officials hug each other Monday before a memorial service for two slain Miami-Dade police officers.
January 24th, 2011
01:51 PM ET

Tough times for men and women in blue

As police in Florida prepared for the funeral of two Miami-Dade County police officers gunned down in the line of duty, shots rang out Monday in St. Petersburg, on the other side of the state. Two other officers fell dead and a federal marshal was wounded. Follow updates on CNN and affiliate WFTS-TV.

On any given day, such violence against police officers would be disturbing. But the fatalities capped a particularly violent 24 hours in the United States for the men and women in blue. Eleven police officers were shot.

“It is a very disturbing trend for all of us,” said Hal Johnson, general counsel for the Florida Police Benevolent Association. “Florida has never seen a streak like this. I don’t think anybody has.”

It is natural to search for answers, Johnson said, even if there aren’t any. The shootings do not appear to be related, and the motives may never be known. Declaring it to be open season against police officers seems dangerously simplistic, he added.

He sees the shootings more as acts of desperation.

“They are shooting at people they know have guns,” Johnson said. “I don’t know what’s going on out there, but I’ve never seen it like this. I do see the developing of a callousness. It’s almost as if shooting a police officer has lost its shock effect.”

Consider:

- On Sunday, four officers were shot in a Detroit police station by a man who walked in, firing randomly. Lamar Deshea Moore was shot to death by police so his motive may never be known, but local reports say a relative was awaiting sentencing for double murder. Two of the police officers remain hospitalized. For more, read CNN’s update and affiliate reports from the scene: WXYZ-TV and WDIV-TV.

- Two deputies were shot outside a Walmart in Port Orchard, Washington, near Seattle, on Sunday. Check out CNNKIRO-TV and KOMO-TV for the latest updates.

 - A police officer is in a coma and in critical condition after being shot during a traffic stop early Sunday in Indianapolis. Check out WTHR-TV and WISH-TV for updates.

- In Lincoln City, Oregon, a police officer was shot Sunday night during a traffic stop. The officer is in critical condition. Check out affiliate KOIN-TV for more information.

Although they do not appear to be related, the weekend shootings follow two other violent incidents last week involving police officers, including the Miami killings and a slaying in Lakewood, New Jersey.

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  1. George

    Cops are nothing but thugs the government uses to confiscate peoples' property and keep them obedient. Chasing after murderers, rapists, and thugs is a secondary goal.

    Good riddance.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • settino

      George, are you OK? Sure you don't need a drink or soemthing?

      January 24, 2011 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thought police

      Clearly you posted this to show what a complete moron you are. The problem with this world is too many people like you weren't aborted. Hopefully you stop at a red light and a trigger happy car thief decided he needs your broken down Hyundai for a joyride but decided to pop a bullet in your head just for the fun of it.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thank You

      We live in an artificial nightmare created by the courts and politicians. The police are just the tool used against us. A state endorsed gang that uses kidnapping, extortion, murder, intimidation, and violence to enforce maritime law on the land for the benefit of the wealthy. Many of these idiots want to strip us completely of any defense against it. Mao, Stalin, and Hitler were all strong proponents of gun control.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Shannon Cole

    Violence is happening all over and it so sad. These people put their lives on the line for us everyday. It's not the officers fault. But obviously something has to change & be done differently because we are running down a really bad path. Weather it be in Detroit Chicago or New York – its all the same. Law enforcement has to come up with something else because what they are doing now isn't working & more lives are being lost.

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    January 24, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
  3. annoyed

    Most of you are morons. Its not the punishment that needs to be harsher, the US has one of the toughest legal systems in the developed Western world. Its our society and gun laws that need to change. If you take guns away, they will NOT just be left for the bad guys. Eventually they will all disappear. Take a look around the world. In the UK, civilians can only own shotguns, and normal police don't carry weapons at all. Their crime rate overall remains similar to ours, but their violent crime rates and homicides by handguns are substantially lower. Same goes for every other country with stricter gun laws. No other country has the school shootings, the mass shootings, the gang violence, and the police homicide rate even CLOSE to that of America. Read a book, or a statistic for once and stop listening to the NRA and other hicks who think guns are cool. America's laws aren't the only way to do things, and they certainly aren't always the right way. If you still disagree, talk to Christina Taylor Green's family, maybe they'll be able to explain it better.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • George

      Too bad, because you aren't taking our guns away. Ever.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim NJ

      If what you say is correct "that guns would eventually all disappear with a ban"...then why is it that hard drugs like cocaine which have been banned for decades are still finding their way into our country? Which by the way are perishable (consumed by the buyer) whereas guns are non-perishable and already exist in the millions inside the US. You would have to search 310 million american's homes, confiscate the guns, destroy the guns, and then seal the border completely to prevent a black market from selling them into the US just like drugs. If i were you I would be careful about calling others "morons".....

      January 24, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • sweet_genius

      Maybe you should talk to Suzanna Gratia Hupp. " On Wednesday, October 16, 1991, Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen. She had left her gun in her car to comply with Texas state law at the time, which forbade carrying a concealed weapon. When George Hennard drove his truck into the cafeteria and opened fire on the patrons, Hupp instinctively reached into her purse for her weapon, but it was in her vehicle. Her father, Al Gratia, tried to rush Hennard and was shot in the chest. As the gunman reloaded, Hupp escaped through a broken window and believed that her mother, Ursula Gratia, was behind her. Hennard put a gun to her mother's head as she cradled her mortally wounded husband. Hupp's mother and father were killed along with twenty-one other persons. Hennard also wounded some twenty others. As a survivor of the Luby's massacre, Hupp testified across the country in support of concealed-handgun laws. She said that had there been a second chance to prevent the slaughter, she would have violated the Texas law and carried the handgun inside her purse into the restaurant."

      January 24, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Nexus

    There are about 500,000 gun-related crimes annually in the United States. Further, Americans own roughly 250 million guns. Assuming a different gun is used in each of the 500,000 crimes, only 0.2% of guns are involved in crime each year. A ban on firearms would be 99.8% over inclusive.
    Washington banned handguns for 33 years; during some of those years the city was known as the nation's murder capital. Killers not deterred by laws against murder were not deterred by laws against owning guns. Moreover, anti-gun regulations did not address the deep-rooted causes of violent crime - illegitimacy, drugs, alcohol abuse and dysfunctional schools - much less mental instability.
    Experience indicates that gun restrictions have minimal effect on access to weapons by criminals and deranged people.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  5. at

    Ok 10 cops die in 24 hours. Now how about we do a study on how many citizens died that same 24 hour period? I guarantee its multiple times that... How come only police get the spotlight? why should we only care that police are dying...It's their job to be in those situations they chose it... when average citizens get gunned down.. they are VICTIMS who have no idea whats coming and cant opt out... Why does Media only like covering COP SHOT stories? No offenses here, just observations

    January 24, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jonny_wadd

      The same reason that only a congresswoman who was shot in the head gets coverage – Status and visibility. The average Joe is meaningless to the press.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  6. azman

    In mexico guns are illegal. I think that is a great example of what it is like when only the bad guys have guns.

    Everyone can complain about cops until they need their services!

    January 24, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • sweet_genius

      'Best comment of the Day Award' for you!

      January 24, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Jailer

    Will be thinking of the families who have been affected by these acts of violence.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Jonny_wadd

    So get rid of guns – you think you can then rid the country of police..... Only to find out that the bad guys still have guns.. You then need the military to come in to enforce laws and your safety... Isnt that known as a Martial law?

    January 24, 2011 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
  9. GJ

    Police do not have cloaks of invisibility. They are more of a target than anyone else. Some officers, more than others–are hated for various reasons. If you serve in a professional manner, with honesty and integrity you will be help prevent, but not always stop things like this from happening.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  10. The Bacon Chef

    Them pigs getting roasted out there hahaha #friedthepolice 🙂

    January 24, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  11. lftryagain

    Hey Mexico - we are starting to be like you!

    January 24, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seraphim0

      Wow... I had no idea cops went around executing children. I guess since we're speaking in generalities and blanket statements- since some bad people have shot at and tried to kill cops, I guess all citizens must be out to get them too. Maybe we should initiate shoot first, ask question later.

      Aren't generalities and blanket statements awesome?

      Get some perspective, Numb. And clue while you're at it.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sam

      You do realize that, excluding the past 4 years of a failed presidential strategy against drugs, the US has had far more shootings and killings than Mexico, right?

      January 24, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cliff Vegas

      Sam. Please make a stop at the baño before you post. You are full of it again.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      We are also have a larger population than Mexico, so you have to take all of that into account. What I constantly see throughout anti-gun arguments is a spoken statistic showing more deaths or acts of violence by the US. While this is true, people need to keep in mind that we a larger country than most other countries by a lot, so it is natural that our numbers are higher.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      BAN ALL THE GUNS !!!!!

      January 24, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobby

      America is still in the 18th century regarding guns..maybe if people started using bpmbs SOMETHING would be done about this community of violence that persists all over the country. We need something huge to bring us to our senses regarding guns and violence..it is really becoming a sick sick society

      January 24, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Numbaoneballa

      I'm happy to see the pigs get a taste of their own medicine. It's too bad it had to come to this, but the cops have had committed horrible atrocities. It's like an ss Gestapo Nazi getting killed.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ro

      At least we know where tha problem is: a Drug war, drugs that are being buy by americans.

      USA is fulll by crazy people that shots other people just because they don't like them, that's worse because inocent people is being killed.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • cloud380

      Police ask for this type of violence. When they go in homes and shoot innocent people. They shoot black people and get away with it. Just the other day in Utah swat teams went into a home and before they said get on the floor the cop shot the guy 3 times. Thiis is what happens when the public are scared of their own law enforcement.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • RB

      In reality these are more casualties in this "war" we are waging in America. It's supposed to be a war on drugs, crime or now the excuse is terror. Billions of dollars turning our police agencies in the most rural of locations into paramilitary forces. Perhaps if we had a little common sense gun control, revamped our criminal justice system, legalized marijuana, and examinded what type of policing we really need. Police used to "protect and serve" in the good old days now they are more interested in intimdation and control. Incarceration is out of control and then the system creates even worse criminals.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      I want a gun just because the world is crazy. Is any of this new, really? Talk about statistics, more people die in ten years due to homicide in America then U.S lives claimed in the Vietnam war. I think thats a problem as you don't get a combat patch for living in the U.S. How about a statement like one night you can be driving home with you family and boom a drunk driver pops the curb and your life is ruined. Lets face it, society is not engineered to be safe, and why should it be. As long as some ideas are immutable regardless of the horrors I guess the justification is the ends.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith D. Rudolph

      Please dont forget about the livonia, MI police that was kill in the line of duty Jan 17,2010. We need to find away to stop these type of things from happen to all of us. It is just so sad what is going on in this world today.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Just more evidence that everyone needs easier access to guns and ammo. Gun control? Nonsense! May as well throw in flame throwers and bazookas.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
  12. DSmith

    People need guns because they can't protect themselves with their hands. Cowards would rather kill a person who punches them in the nose, instead of fighting back. I cracked when I saw the guys carrying their guns during the political rallies, thinking to myself, they use to get their butts kicked growing up. I'm smart enough to know that people in rural areas handle guns from the crib to adulthood (they deal with different issues), but the suburban commando is the real joke here. They took any toughest away from their kids who now can't protect themselves, so they need a gun.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fred

      A coward with a gun is still 100 times stronger than you DSmith.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • LW

      Give people dangerous toys, and someone is going to get hurt. I'm appalled at how 'normal' it seems now to read about people being shot, from the recent tragedy here in AZ, to the news of what's going on around the country. It's almost expected to be in the day's headlines. It's disgusting.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyhouston

      So the coward is the gun with the gun who can't defend himself. Not the coward build like a brick house beating him up for fun eh?

      January 24, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      Having a gun doesn't make you strong Fred. Only a very weak person (mentally and/or physically) thinks that way.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • ant

      ide rather be the coward with the gun who shot the brave guy who steps into my house

      January 24, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oldschool

      Dsmith is correct.People in rural areas do grow up around guns, how many people/cops get shot in anger out in the sticks?
      I live in the sticks,just about everybody I know has a gun of some kind.Yet I can't remember any misuse of a gun in the last 40 years in my area.Maybe it's just the city people who shouldn't have guns.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      America has more guns than any other country (of the 8 million guns made worldwide every year, 4 million are sold in the US, every year) and more people in prison than any other country (one in one hundred of the adult population). 30,000 fatal shootings a year, from accidents to suicides to murders. If that was an act of terrorism, maybe somebody would do something about it. But nope – Americans still live in the 19th century.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • societyready

      DSmith, you sound like the bully that drove those "cowards" to carry guns. People with your views are forcing them into a fight or flight mentality. And when cornered, they'll fight. They'll pull out their guns and lay waste to anything they consider dangerous, with a "shoot first, ask questions later" plan of attack. We've all seen that evil manifest itself many times.

      I agree we don't need any more crazy folks to get guns. Virginia Tech and Tuscon should reinforce that viewpoint on everyone. But not all people who carry are crazy or cowards. It's the bully beating up on the helpless or weak, who is the coward.

      There are no issues that can't be talked out. Violence is never a good resolution, but in some cases of self-defense of one's self or family, it ends up being the resolution.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • LLBD

      No, people don't "Need" guns, they want guns. Seriously, when a gun is brought into the home, there's that off chance that a person who breaks into the home, will steal that gun and then use it on ... you? I gotta ask, since when do we need automatic weapons on our streets or ... hunting? Is that actually realistic??? Not in my book it isn't!

      January 24, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oldschool

      @LLBD No, automatic rifles are NOT for hunting, least not in my neck of the woods.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • BadMojo

      I use an M1 carbine semi auto to hunt rabits with.

      It's fairly light, it is great for up to large rabbits & I have a 30 round magazine for when we go plinking.(that's a term most non-gun owners wouldn't know. That's when you just go out target shooting, normally off in the woods or a creek bed that has a high wall to catch the bullets) I use a 5 round clip when hunting

      So see some "assault rifles" can be used to hunt. My buddy used to hunt prairie dogs with an AR-15 which is the semi auto version of the M-16.

      It's all in how you use them. All around me there are gun owners. We know that & maybe that's what helps get along.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • TomJoseyWalkes

      DSmith, it's pretty unrealistic and unfair to call a 120-pound female who carries a gun in her purse in case she needs to ward off a gang of attackers a "coward." Besides, not everyone wants to get drug through the criminal courts for assault if they win the fist fight. In many cases, displaying a gun is deterrent.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  13. TH Goodie

    @J I can really tell you dont listen to rap music because now every rap song is about parting and spending money. But I know that rock music is filled with hate, devil worship and telling people to kill. God some of you people are stupid as hell!!

    January 24, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyhouston

      Really? I can list the rap songs off, never heard any heavy metal from the USA about hate or devil worship... onlyu hate metal i heard was from Germany and they make nazi nsuery rhymes there.

      Devil worship heavy metal is made up yo, not a single person can find me a song that says it, it's all "I think, it sounds like it, it could be."

      Flat out rap says get a glock a cap someone for looking at you funny heck i can grab about 5 cds off my shelf with that in them with no question about the meaning behind the words.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • GetCultured

      @TyHouston

      Group:
      Dope

      Album:
      Life

      Track:
      6

      January 24, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • LLBD

      You might say there are tunes out there full of hate, killing etc, but then there are the other tunes out there that are full of love, helping others, doing the right thing, but more love than anything else. The anger is from teenagers who haven't got a clue. Wake up dude! We are not stupid – but I sure don't like rap.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      There might be some satanic (heavy metal) rock groups, but most rock music has nothing to do with hate or devil-worship. Wake up to reality sometime, will you?

      January 24, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • sonny

      well if you think it's so bad what are they doing on your shelf? So since you listened to so much rap maybe you're prone to kill huh. Maybe we should lock you up before you do something stupid. What do you think about that?

      January 24, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
  14. sidney

    the taliban would be proud of american's obsession with guns and violence.

    January 24, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • sburg

      I'm sure they would be the difference however is we accept that their should be civility and recognize that corruption is not part of your everyday life. terrorist are people just uneducated ignorant people who don't like US.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Nexus

    If any of you gun control nuts meets one of these psycho killers when they snap..... YOU'LL WISH YOU HAD A GUN TO DEFEND YOURSELF... Cuz the police will only get there in time to write the report... They don't need guns either, just a pen will do...

    January 24, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul

      no, I'd wish gun control had taken place sooner. No need to have a gunfight in the street, with stray bullets killing everyone.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • True Dat

      I agree with Paul!

      January 24, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • sburg

      why would anybody choose to disarm themselves by giving up their guns? even a criminal would tell u your an idiot. its not a perfect world and it never will be so i will always have my guns. i don't care if atf comes and tries to take them. I'm human and that is my basic right. not because I'm American because I'm human.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      No I wish I was it in a country with a gun-control like UK where these kind of things happen 100 times less often,

      January 24, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cliff Vegas

      As a proud supporter (lifetime member) of the NRA and a proponent of CC laws, I agree with your sentiment, but STFU with the "nutcase with a gun" routine. All you do is feed into the impression that pro-gun is supported by a bunch of clueless fruitcakes. Second Amend stands by itself – period. No explanation. No other discussion.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lex

      No Paul u would be dead.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lex

      @ Alex: MOVE! Be an ex Pat millions do it.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • True Dat

      Sticter gun control does not equal "taking away your guns." It just helps make sure that the people buying guns are in the right mind to do so and can't just on impulse, walk into a walmart and buy a gun all in a day. If people are the responsible gun owners they claim to be then they should have no problem waiting a week or two to clear a proper background check to buy their guns.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      No matter what the laws are criminals will always have guns. So why would you take the law abiding citizen's gun away?? Do you think the criminals wont have access to guys even if it is illligal smh how do you think other illigal things get in (drugs, immigrants, ...etc). Concetrate on why but not what they used as a tool. Just like if someone decided to drive a car and hit as many people as they can. Then its like saying cars are the problem lol. If there is the distruction desire there is always a way. So work on why not how!!!!!!!!!

      January 24, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
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