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Scientists, telescope hunt massive hidden object in space
You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.
And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.
Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.
Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.
The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.
Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth, scientists say.
Brown dwarfs are cold "failed" stars; their dimness and lack of heat radiation can make them hard to detect. Gas giants are huge planets - like Saturn, Jupiter and Neptune - that are made up of gases and may lack a solid surface like Earth's.
Whitmire told The Independent that Tyche will probably be composed of hydrogen and helium and have colorful spots, bands and clouds like Jupiter.
"You'd also expect it to have moons," he said. "All the outer planets have them."
Tyche was first hypothesized in 1984 as Nemesis, a dark companion star to the sun. It's been the subject of astronomical research and debate ever since. In July, another Space.com article said the celestial evidence suggests Tyche could not possibly exist.
To distinguish it from the Nemesis star theory, Matese and Whitmire are calling their object Tyche, after the good sister of the goddess Nemesis in Greek mythology.
Their research is published in Icarus, the International Journal of Solar System Studies.
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We need to bring jebus and alahh to those godless planets.
Hark St. Germain, My good and faithful servant! And look not upon Me, neither try to respond to Me via email, for I am the Lord your G*d. Verily hast thou done My work in this vale of ignorance that is called the internets. Now I must command thee, look upon the sacred Keyboard that is the instrument of My will, and findeth thee the key marked "caps lock." And upon finding the key marked "caps lock," thou must press upon it with thine finger, which is a fine finger and most pleasing unto the Lord. And when thou has pressed upon it but once, press upon it not again, for if thou doest so I will be most wroth. Press upon it not twice, nor any even number of times. Thrice thou mayest press upon it, yea, verily, even five times mayest thou press, and any other odd number, but an even number mayest thou not press, for I am the Lord your G*d. Alternately, an infinite number of times mayest thou press the sacred button marked "caps lock," that thou mayest keep pressing the button marked "caps lock," and so on, so that thou needst not press ever any button, save the one marked "caps lock." thus I command thee, for I am the Lord your G*d.
Sorry for the caps I love GOD very Much I guess my despair shows alot. I love GOD very Much because he dwells from within and its pure LOVE the energy of LOVE and COMPASION is what keeps me going and and the belief that GOD exists.
It's mine, it's only a little black hole, nothing to be alarmed over.
Move along, nothing to see here.
A message to the common people of the world. Part1
Dear brothers and sister:
To those of you whom seek truth. I say to you. Seek and you shall find truth; it is not above any that can read or hear that which I write to comprehend that which is simple and straight forward.
I will write of many things, but none is more important then you know that truth is simple and that anyone who wishes can seek it out and find it.
Finding truth is a very personal process and requires that each and ever one of must be willing to examine information present to us.
It is a process of weighing all that we know; all that we have experienced in this short life that we experience on this planet.
All these things that we will and have examined are an expression of being human and living in the social structure that we call humanity.
We all need to know that we are not alone.
That with-in and with-out the known universe exists consciousness that is both below and beyond our own comprehension. But surly we are not alone.
In the short history of this planet, that which is the known history and that which has been with held from us.
A common theme reoccurs; the theme is not just of the rise and fall of nations or even civilizations, but the rise and fall of human consciousness. In the history of the planet there has been individuals whom have worked to raise us up and in the like lower us down.
These powerful leaders or guides have come to us, us the individuals through out history and have been powerful agents of change.
Each and every one of us needs to know that as individuals though difficult to believe we can empower ourselves. Every individual regardless of class or status has and will always have this power.
The empowerment I speak of does not suggest the rule of others, but the rule of self.
That each of us needs to get to know who we are or quite often who we are not.
So as simple as I can put it; truth is a highly individual concept, I can neither give an individual their truth, nor may I take away that which they believe to be truth.
That as individuals each and every act that we shall do, can work to perused others in some sort of direction. All of our individual actions and acts by example have the power to affect others. Regardless of the size of these action; whether we touch one or many these action affect the whole of humanity.
In a functional society groups and individuals work to define commonly held beliefs that are thought to be truths.
The entire current human civilization rest on these collections of shared concepts that the majority of us ether belief to be true or are comfortable with disagreeing with.
Depending on an individual status or to often class within society, individuals have the ability to persuade others ether directly or indirect through the event of history, and or through the dispensing of knowledge be that a mathematical concepts or theoretical models.
Regardless of the society that the individual presides in; it is solely up to the individual to ether embrace or refute all that is presented to the individual.
I will even go a step further; it is an individual’s responsibility to carefully examine all that is offer to both the individual and to that which is offer to the society, civilization that the individual finds himself a participant of.
The reality is in my opinion that all of us need to examine all that touches our lives directly or indirectly, so that the individual can not only form opinions but all so be in touch with those opinions.
That until an individual has accomplished a basis for his or her belief system that said individual is not a functional member of society. Even worse individuals whom fail to examine this life at detail fail not only themselves but society/civilization that they preside in.
In the world in which all of us currently preside in; too often it is presumed that the individuals are neither responsible nor capable of forming these simple core beliefs. But truly we are in fact indebted by our vary existence to take the time and thought energy to not only form these beliefs but to stay in touch with them so that these beliefs can be grown and nurtured.
It is the individuals responsibility to not simple embrace that which is offered by society or the civilization in which we find ourselves a part of, but instead to carefully, thoughtful examine all that is offered.
Too often the common man excuses him or her self from being capable of distinguishing between truth, fiction, fantasy, or other wise. But surely in our short history leadership has come forth from every known culture.
Leadership that has challenged humanity to examine what we call civil. Leaders that have help us the individuals to ask the right questions, questions that are simple absolutes necessary to form a functioning responsible civilization.
These simple absolute questions asked and answered are the basis of the human civilization. These absolute questions come from all cultures from a wide variety of sources be it philosophers to theologians. But each individual whom wish’s to participate in that which humanity calls civilization must not only examine these questions, concepts but also needs to embrace or refute them.
Until the bulk of humanity can embrace many of the basic truths that the individuals will identify as absolutes, all of us are stuck in the flux of the majority’s mind set.
Those of us that can embrace for example the wisdom of the Ten Commandments, or that all individuals should exhibit conduct themselves in a way in which they expect others to exhibit toward themselves.
Valery
Part2 will be released soon Ring Theory with Magnetic Mono-pole Moments. (RTM3)
Inversing fractal model that explains the micro and macro universe.
YOU ARE TOO SPACED OUT.
STFU
We could take my van to get there. I pity the star that gets in my way!
I love black holes. I've dated all types of women.
YOu sheeple are so brainwashed! I take it your all american? Funny how a government brainwashes his own sheeple as you fall for his lies. Good luck though and i hope america will soon learn.
This is how the conspiracy cult operates. They insult your intelligence, set up their own theories as the only rational conclusion, slander everyone who fights their cult as shills for the new world order, and when you ask for evidence, it's all emotionalism and interpretation of data instead of rational investigation, it's disgusting.
possible, yet fairly unlikely. The world should unite under one Flag though.
For what purpose? To what end?
The answer to the ultimate question is "42"
I don't, know why?
We can see stars that are way aways from our solar system at night, so why don't we see this one?
"The artical is retarded" is itself quite ironic.
I've just picked up a fault in the AE35 unit. It's going to go 100% failure in 72 hours.
open the pod bay doors.
You're looking through uranus.
brown dwarfs – too low-mass to sustain continuous hydrogen fusion, what makes em light up
It is a shame our public school system has failed you and so many others.
CAPTAIN KIRK-–THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DID NOT FAIL THE STUDENTS DID---WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WAS FORMED AND TEACHERS PAY WAS RAISED WHEN THEY EARNED A DOCTORATE IN EDUCATION. If the Educatyion departments wer worth a penney the best professors in college would be in the education department......the FACT IS THE MOST DULL CLASSES IN THE UNIVERSITY AND ELSE WHERE ARE TAUGHT BE EDUCATION PROFESSORS. TEACHERS SPEND ONE YEAR OF THE TO GET A COLLEGE DEGREE LEARNING HOW TO TEACH WHAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO LEARN
I've seen that movie many times and love it every time
I got 43, what did I do wrong?
How many generations were there between the first Jew and the Torah made flesh?
Just ask the mice! Slarty may even have felt it.
Slarty may have designed it. With crkinkly-edged fjords.
now that's just a bunch of slartybartfast!
and u know it.
Which is why it's ok to ignore and/or laugh at them.
Andrew,
Thank you for posting some common sense here.
Of course your detractors will have long since disappeared when nothing happens....
I have challenged countless of these 2012 nuts to sell me there house at 25% value in cash & I will let them live there rent free until 2013 when of course it wont matter anymore. Strangely they don't take up my generous offer...... Wonder where the conviction goes.
I have been warned that the 2012 thing is quite real. There will be some serious disruptions of life as we know it.
Of course, the people who keep warning me also warned me that on Jan 1, 2000 all the computers in the world would crash, electric grids would fail, gangs would roam the streets freely slaughtering people to take their food and so on.
And the destruction of the entire Earth when the planets aligned in 1984.
And the asteroid the smashed New York in 1991.
What amazes me is that there are people who know they were wrong the last 5 or 6 times that they predicted cannibalism and zombies in the streets, yet buy right into the 2012 doom and gloom.
I'll take you up on your offer. In fact, I'll do you one better. Take over my house payment and it's yours!
I completely agree, I was just thinking the samething.
Andrew what pretty eyes you have...
You need to resolve your anger somewhere else. Perhaps you are talking to the very ignorant ones. The world is full of them. You may need to do your own research (not on the internet). You may just see that neither scientists nor religion have the answers.
Reminds me of the GOP.
True. Every logical fallacy in the book, and then some more, can be detected in their arguments.
Earth warming is not that at all, it is local warming taken to its logical geographic consequences. The abnormal degree of the melting of the northern polar ice cap is due to the widespread operation of nuclear power reactors on the northern coast of Russia, and in northern drainage basins such as the Ob-Irtysh basin. In one recent episode, a camp of ice fishermen were fishing on one of these northern Russian rivers, while at the same time, just upstream, a nuclear power plant released its warm water discharge into the same river. That was the end of the ice fishing camp. Warm water is many times denser than warm air, and certainly it is the warming of the Arctic coastal waters due to this nuclear energy factor (which may include nuclear submarine operations as well) which is significant in this context. I haven't seen any evidence of warming air temperatures on the polar ice cap which are significant enough to make a difference at all in this context – in fact, even if there were such temperature gradient differences, it would be difficult to link this to "global" warming – I would look for local warming first.
It is in the nature of ice that it does melt, and ice also evaporates at temperatures which are well below freezing. Whether ice melts because of warm air or water, or whether ice evaporates because of surface area factors such as higher winds, the result is the same for the ice – it tends to disappear.
Whenever you see the proponents of any scientific theory claiming that "most scientists support this", etc., or
"the credentials of these scientists are impeccable, blah, blah, blah," you know they are grasping at straws and avoiding logical rebuttals. Testimonial argument is a classic logical fallacy. The next step is to reach for endorsements by Hollywood stars and retired politicians. And we should retire a few of these politicians who have spent taxpayer dollars in support of these failed theories, and increased regulatory red tape and cost the American economy thousands of jobs – such as the jobs at Du Pont which were given the axe a few years ago because of the "ozone hole" fallacy.
ARE YOU SERIOUS????? Wow Sally, this is incredible news. Here all along we are thinking we had a global warming problem. I just need you to explain one thing to me. How is that warm water from the northern Russian nucleur power plants melting the glaciers in Greenland because I must have missed that physics class.
Sally you need to shut up! First off if you are going to comment on a page write in wording that the average american can understand. Second and I'm with Biff on this one, explain how nuclear power plants in russia are melting glaciers in Greenland! We have proven holes in the ozone layer, and if you are going to throw in politics you are on the wrong page. Stop trying to seem like you are the most intelligent person around...because obviously you aren't. So just stop...please...just stop...
Yah, I think you are on to something. I don't think those who are criticsl thinkers are all conspiracy nuts because there are a lot of bad things happening by groups of people who stand to benefit from them who want to keep it hush hush. However, I'm more than a little cynical when it comes to the professional conspiracy people who cash in on people's paranoia.
That cant be true, I have a very nice telescope from walmart and I have never seen it, typical liberal crap.
lol, walmart=crapy chineese goods made by children
You would love my husband....he refuses to shot at Wal-Mart
well, i for one am glad for that christy....
there's already enough people being shot at walmart.....they just don't need anymore.....it's not the big consumer attraction they were hoping it would be when they first tried that marketing tactic!
Very liberal of you to shop at Wal-Mart!
do you even know what liberal means? Obviously not!
And I thought Armageddon was religious right wingnut crap......
Did you read the instructions manual first??
I assume you're joking. It's sad that I have to question that in society though.
What telescope do you have?
This is because it is in the infared spectrum, brown dwarfs cannot be seen with a reg lens on a telescope at its distance I believe.
Check out this link, that why you can't see it yet. It can be seen only from the south pole observatory!!!!!
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hercolobus/esp_hercolobus_63.htm
check each picture box and it will explain.
Whaaaaaat?
Lol, basically, its the end of the world.
But its ok, becasue chuck noris will stop the sun from destroying us, so you can sleep ok in bed tonight.
it's true about Chuck Norris saving us. I once saw him kick a $1 bill into 20 nickels!!! Chuck for President!
At least make sure you spell your own name correctly.
Huh? What are you on about?
I get it...your name...ha! ha!
"your" ??? I take it YOU'RE not as educated as should be required to leave a comment.
Grammar, my dear. Grammar. Must be the brainwashed part of me that thinks you must go back to the first grade, or some level of primary school. Go on now. Back you go.
It is too late to hide the truth. It is too late to hide anywhere.
What was once a myth, it is now slowly coming to surface as terrifying destiny.
Holy @#$%!! what the %$#@ is that! Man I knew we shoulda used some windex on the telescope!
Will my insurance cover that?
I just don't understand why Tyche would orbit the sun if Tyche's mass is greater than the sun's. I thought that whatever had the greatest mass was the center because it's gravity pulled other objects toward it, thus causing an orbit. I don't know. I just like to watch Star trek. I'm not a scientist.
It says Tyche is only 4 times the size of Jupiter, still quite a bit smaller than the Sun.
@sow, you have misread. The hypothetical body would be more massive than Jupiter, but that is still far, far less massive than even our relatively little star.
And to the OP and all the other loonies out in force today... even if there is a body orbiting way out there, that's not the same thing as the magic alien planet your crazy cult leader was babbling about on the radio a few years ago. Leave the nonsense out of this.
' sowgoodseeds ' dude ...try re-reading the article, you missed some key details.....thanks from all of us
I suggest we all commit suicide at the stroke of midnight on 12/21/2012. Who's with me?
A star this close is impossible... think about it. We can see stars at night that are light years away, so why can't we one so close?
F-– moron. I wish judgement day DID arrive just so I could watch all the morons, the gullible FOOLS die horrible deaths..I'd play Darwin and CHEER!
Oort cloud obscures a lot of what we can see. Theres also the fact that we can only see from our tiny vantage point depending on our orbit around the sun. A lot of the stuff we discover isn't from direct observation but effects of its gravity on other celestial bodies.
@This artical is retarded –
It doesn't work that way. Just because it has a classification of "star" does not mean it emits light. It has to have a large enough mass to have stable hydrogen fusion. If the mass is too small, there will be no light, leaving you with something that is effectively a large version of Jupiter, as described in the article.
save us all from the terrifying destiny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Currently in this comments section: Lunatics and nutters.
No kidding!
You forgot to mention the whiners; you know, the people who just complain that there aren't any good comments or that the story wasn't worth reading/talking about.
I'm not crazy. Just creative.
Yep. And there's no cure for stupid.
you forgot lurkers like you who have nothing to say about the article itself....
I wish they would elaborate more about the pattern of mass extinctions that they mentioned
This would not be the first time, or even a rare time that NASA, the scientific community, and the government has formerly declared something as impossible just to later find out that it is fully possible. I'm not into those Nibiru theories, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this brown dwarf exists as suggested. Remember, we're only allowed to know about things that the government approves of. Never trust people care about preventing panics and outrage, because just about every major discovery that is beyond current comprehension or that may present danger will be blocked from becoming accepted public knowledge. Global warming is different though, that can make the government money if people believe that man-made global warming is destroying the Earth.... so why not tell everyone about it? Even though man-made global warming is clearly a lie... and that the warming is caused by natural and astronomical influences.
A brown dwarf sitting outside the Oort Cloud is an interesting possibility. A brown dwarf sitting outside the Oort Cloud in order to serve as a herald for the destruction of the world upon its discovery is the domain of the mentally disturbed.
Dude, shut up. That's exactly what I was thinking. Forget all that hard evidence the the chemicals and toxins that humans are dumping into the atmosphere is having a profound impact on climate patterns, that's just silly. How could anything foreign and man made possibly do any damage? It's not like nuclear bombs are that bad, or even h-bombs, that's just hogwash. How can humans have an impact on anything?? This african-solarian little star is quite interesting though, a harbinger of doom that shall wipe us out at a time when none of this will even be recognized as having existed. AWESOME!
If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right but if he says that it is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
"cactus jack" – didn't Randy Quaid play you in the movie?
Conversely,
Many is the time the science community or government has had to eat their own words.
I tried to click reply, but I clicked Report Abuse. Sorry...
well said cactus jack!
@cactus and geriomo...How have you guys managed to eat without choking on your fork and killing yourself? Better question, how have you managed to survive without someone killing you because they could no longer endure your stupidity?
I agree with Cactus Jack. A lot of this stuff that many people dismiss as myths from ancient civilizations who we think were clueless about science, is now being proven by science. The ancient civilizations had more knowledge than we can imagine.
Nibiru is not a theorie, it's ancient knowledge. Wake up!
I agree optimus, just grrrr, grrrr, wah, wah.
I don't, becasue its impossible to have a star that close and not see it.
Look at the night sky! those stars are very very far away...
Looks like "This article" needs to read the F... article before commenting.
@this artical: Not all stars are bright. Try to educate yourself a little. Until then: sit down, shut up, and stop pretending you're smarter than anyone else.
...just because you can't see it doesn't make it real!!! Come on Now!!! What about Santa, and the Tooth Fairy? sheesh! you think you would've learned something by now!
Interesting little article, even if lacking in facts. Conjecture is always fun, though! What really cracks me up are the comments appended hereto...wow! Definitely some of those "NOTW" window lickers present. I remember my late Mother, a crazy Southern Baptist woman, trying to tell me that dinosaur bones were planted by Satan to mislead humans! Wonder what she'd think of the world today...
I had a roommate in college who said the same thing, and that light from distant stars was sent on ahead just to deceive us.
heres some conjecture, if said star comes closer to the solar system every x years, then why are the planets in such stable orbits around the sun?
I can believe stuff might be out there, but I seriously doubt it has a comet's orbit, especially when talking about the laws of gravity, if a brown dwarf did come close to the solar system, it would launch planets out of orbit and into empty space. seein as the nibiru people believe this star has done this before, well again, why are the planets still here?
you posters are morons and your posts reflect it
Takes one to know one.
@ Uber....LOL GREAT reply!!!!
Juan, "takes one to know one" is the stupidest and most plainly fallacious expression to ever make it into the American English vernacular. You're a dolt for clapping.
@Mike: DENNIS: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up, will you. Shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
I think that the aliens are very small. Dust size maybe, or nano scale. They control everything but not like we think you know building pyramids and such. They control everything from the inside. With a wink they can give you cancer, see. Their spaceships are huge though. We call the ships fireflies. They appear come out mostly in July to see our fireworks!
You must be a Scientologist.
No, hes just stupid
...and this coming from the person who has posted dozens of times with Article being misspelled.
... don't bogart it dude!!! pass it on!
Lets wait and see if its true.
lol, thats alot of waiting. I don't think thats that smart.