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Scientists, telescope hunt massive hidden object in space
You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.
And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.
Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sunĀ than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.
Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.
The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.
Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth, scientists say.
Brown dwarfs are cold "failed" stars; their dimness and lack of heat radiation can make them hard to detect. Gas giants are huge planets - like Saturn, Jupiter and Neptune - that are made up of gases and may lack a solid surface like Earth's.
Whitmire told The Independent that Tyche will probably be composed of hydrogen and helium and have colorful spots, bands and clouds like Jupiter.
"You'd also expect it to have moons," he said. "All the outer planets have them."
Tyche was first hypothesized in 1984 as Nemesis, a dark companion star to the sun. It's been the subject of astronomical research and debate ever since. In July, another Space.com article said the celestial evidence suggests Tyche could not possibly exist.
To distinguish it from the Nemesis star theory, Matese and Whitmire are calling their object Tyche, after the good sister of the goddess Nemesis in Greek mythology.
Their research is published in Icarus, the International Journal of Solar System Studies.
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We found nibiru!
Unfortunately it exists! š
No, we didn't.
No, it doesn't.
Is it like in fifth element after every few thousands of years evil causes extinction on our planet.
I call dibs on playing Corbin Dallas!
I wanna be one of the techs smokin the gangja leaf under the ship while dropping in canisters of nuclear fuel.
I p00ped myself!
"It could have been carried by and African Swallow!"
No No the African Swallow is non-migratory....
"They could grab it by the husk"
The Hubble can't spot this?
Haha.
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
"What is the airspeed velocity of a Swallow?"
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"Depends, African or European?"
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"I don't know that! Argh!"
Listen, in order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings 43 times every second, right?
Put the lime in the coconut,
What, carried under the dorsal guiding feather?
its umbrella's research base. this where they created the t virus. the hive was only an extension of this place.come next year they will release their new and improved zombie creating virus. The end is nigh! get yourself a shot gun.
The Hubble cannot resolve a swallow – African or European – from that proposed distance. It would have to fly closer.
We are out of coffee!!! Run for your lives!!! aaaaaaah!!!!
They're just trying to hide the fact that the death star is on a course to destroy earth, unfortunately we have no x-wings at the moment so it looks like we're screwed... š oh well
Tyche? Has anyone seen Tycus, the 1998 movie with Dennis Hopper? Should we start building underground????
Thank you, my Monty Python friends, for the unexpected laugh!
hmmm wow this sounds familiar IRAS 1983.. i wonder if this is finally planet x (our binary companion) thank god the conditioning has begun and CNN is covering this, now all the sheep will finally listen.. thank you CNN for the warning, to bad people with a elementary education of physics and history would've realize that binary systems are very abundant.
-What, riddin on a horse?
-Yes
-You've got two empty halfs of coconut and you just banging them together.
No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.
Maybe all the Christians can kneel in prayer (they love kneeling and kneeling and kneeling, don't they?) and pray the Big Scary Bad Mystery Space Object away with the power of prayer and kneeling.
Galactus has is here... If it's a brown dwarf star it really doesn't produce light so you can can't really see it.
Except that most celestial bodies don't produce their own light, they simply reflect the light of the nearest star...
It will still emit infrared radiation, which can be "seen" by instruments.
fswaggard, which part of "star" in "brown dwarf star" was unclear to you? He was right brown dwarf star don't reflect light while other stars do.
@fandango smartypants: Brown Dwarfs don't emit visible light or enough heat to detect easily from very far... they do reflect light. Before you go spouting off your mouth, perhaps try to read first. A little grammar wouldn't hurt either.
they emit near-ir radiation and xrays, which can be detected, in case you wondered.
Fan ... when correcting other peoples mistakes, it's bad form to make your own.
Um...Fandango? Most stars *emit* light. Light is a byproduct of some of the basic processes that are necessary for them to be stars in the first place. Objects like brown dwarfs are actually failed stars in that regard. Though they will have other characteristics in common with what we consider stars, which means they can be detected by means other than direct observation.
Fandango, can you please go away? You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Lydia oh Lydia, that encyclopedia,
Oh Lydia the Queen of Tattoo.
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo.
Beside it the wreck of the Hesperus, too.
And proudly above waves the Red, White, and Blue,
YOU CAN LEARN A LOT FROM LYDIA.
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How could the government have missed this? I bet if BUSH never became president THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENEND!
Clearly, this is a vast, right wing conspiracy that has blinded us oppressed Americans to this big what-ever-it-is.
No, in fact if everyone's attention hadn't been diverted to Iraq and weapons of mass destruction and mounting war cost triggering the massive deficit we now have...we would have found out about this a long time ago!
Are... you that pathetically inclined towards politics that you have to blame everything, even outside the reach of the sun on a single individual?
Put the lime in the coconut,
You will see!
GWB knew about it, but couldn't handle the possibility of something else being dimmer than him.
lol @ Of Course
Bush has never heard of planets and Palin thinks a brown dwarf star starred in Webster...
you do know that looking for something spesfic in space is like useing a hand held camra to sweep the ocean, it is vast, and the lens is small. it is very hard to pick up anything. thats why they tend to take sweeping pics and then put them all together. still, it is quite easy to miss stuff. science is not YET perfect
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This is not new news. What is new is they are now going to tell you about it, gradually, gently. This is the dwarf star that will pass in earth's orbit in 2012, that will upset the rotation of the earth. It will contribute to the tilt of the planet and polar shifts. This will be a cleansing on the earth, although it is unlikely most will survive this catastrophic event.
This is clearly the case. I mean i can say anything and it is true. In fact, the undisclosed body is actually going to impact the planet in 2012. Actually its going to hit our sun and combine, roasting the closest planets in 2013. Actually the planet will be arriving in 2015 and alien organisms will spread their spores all over earth. These are all nice theories but proof is good also.
What Chundancha said. Also, there's no way it could "pass in Earth's orbit"- it's a gaseous object larger than Jupiter that is 15,000 AU away. It's so far it can't even reflect any of the Sun's light for us to see it. Also, a year or two difference is not going to make any gravitational difference in our own orbit that might be affected by Tyche. What the article mentioned about mass extinctions is how this object might be helping to fling comets that are in the Oort Cloud our way in a pattern according to its own orbit.
Nemesis discovered – news report
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an article in our local Ukrainian newspaper talks about discovery of "Nemesis" – "an invisible Death Star", adding astonishing parralels with ZetaTalk!
and i qoute and translate:
"A planet discovered which can threaten Earth with global disaster. NASA has found previously unseen planet that is the part of Solar system – Nemesis, or Death Star, as it is also called. Scientists attribute cataclysms that Earth goes through each tens of million years to this space body.
Passing through the Oort cloud (hypothetical Solar system region which is a source of long periodic comets), Nemesis's gravitation directs flows of meteors and comets toward Earth. Why this space object, 5 times bigger than planet Jupiter, was not discovered earlier?
– The case is that such celestial bodies can be seen only in infrared spectrum, because Nemesis falls into brown dwarf category, – head of Space Research Lab of Uzhgorod Natl University, Vitaliy Yepishev explains. – Say, our Sun is yellow dwarf, and when it cools down it will become red dwarf, and yet later – brown dwarf. This is a burnt byproduct, remains of the star, which is very dense and doesnt emit almost any light. Thats why it cannot be seen via normal telescope. To detect brown dwarfs coronographers are used, sensory telescopes and special broad field scanners.
– Why wide scale disasters are tied with the Nemesis?
– If such a massive space body passes through the Oort cloud, then, according to the disturbance theory, it can alter meteor and comet trajectories. Thats why it is quite possible that large scale disasters of cosmic origin that happened in the past (meteor, asteroid and comet impacts) where connected with Nemesis. Thus, its worth to look closer at it".
Definitely not news – I had heard of it before this little CNN article, too.
It's 15,000 AU away. This thing would have to be going 79.5 million MPH to get here that fast. Holy man that thing is bookin' it.
...perhaps you feel you're being treated unfairly?
There is no way that the object will pass earths orbit by 2012, BUT the gravity well of the object could of already thrown comets out of that cloud, say, 2,000 years ago when the solar system passed through the center plane of the galaxy (yes, we passed through the center plane of the galaxy 2,000 years ago) and thrown comets out of the cloud, and it roughly takes slow moving objects that long to reach the center system. Voyager, a fast moving object (very fast) takes only around 30 years. Back on topic, we might have a barrage of comets coming soon, and NASA said they will be sending out a satalight to determine this 'age of comets' comming, if at all.
just my 2 cents
come on now.....don't ya remember when 2000 rolled around? all the mayhem? The Mayans were an ancient civilization...maybe they just got tired of tracking the future....
You guys are legit retarded.
We know now that the year of doom is 20120 not 2012. Turns out the Myans who were so good at prophesying were not so good at decimal placement.
It's good to be retarded, the world seems better that way.
ALL of you who commented on the first post who want to devalue my words, listen closely....check your suppressed fear....it is gleaming in your comments that you do not even see. Your life is over. Get used to it.
Fantastic discovery
Not a "fantastic discovery". They didn't discover anything. It's an interesting theory, nothing more.
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Is it Arnold from different strokes?
Now *that's* just wrong.
Funny as anything, but wrong...
No, it's Bushwick Bill.
What you talking about bobbber
haha... Very funny
Someone else posted that it is another sun gathering up fuel in the Oort Cloud until it gathers enough mass to ignite. Yikes!
Let's say we survive the initial flash from that event.....do we now live in a planet that will have 2 sunrises, for approximately 25 of every 27 million years? (Need to account for the time it would be behind our original sun.)
Astronomical objects don't "ignite" like a campfire- whatever fuel this thing had started running out a long time ago (we're talking billions of years). It barely has enough mass to collapse in on itself.
The end is nigh! The end is nigh!
Should this flash bang ignition occur, the entire vastness of space will go up in one giant fireball. All are doomed! Your only salvation is to buy fire retardent clothing and extinguishers from Sutler's Safety Supplies and Surplus. Act now, while our supply lasts!
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Andrew is the most ignorant poster on this thread.
I saw this in the news a few weeks ago. Read below for the info. that CNN is now giving us only little bits of.
Nemesis discovered – news report
Suggest Pin Quote [+]
an article in our local Ukrainian newspaper talks about discovery of "Nemesis" – "an invisible Death Star", adding astonishing parralels with ZetaTalk!
and i qoute and translate:
"A planet discovered which can threaten Earth with global disaster. NASA has found previously unseen planet that is the part of Solar system – Nemesis, or Death Star, as it is also called. Scientists attribute cataclysms that Earth goes through each tens of million years to this space body.
Passing through the Oort cloud (hypothetical Solar system region which is a source of long periodic comets), Nemesis's gravitation directs flows of meteors and comets toward Earth. Why this space object, 5 times bigger than planet Jupiter, was not discovered earlier?
– The case is that such celestial bodies can be seen only in infrared spectrum, because Nemesis falls into brown dwarf category, – head of Space Research Lab of Uzhgorod Natl University, Vitaliy Yepishev explains. – Say, our Sun is yellow dwarf, and when it cools down it will become red dwarf, and yet later – brown dwarf. This is a burnt byproduct, remains of the star, which is very dense and doesnt emit almost any light. Thats why it cannot be seen via normal telescope. To detect brown dwarfs coronographers are used, sensory telescopes and special broad field scanners.
– Why wide scale disasters are tied with the Nemesis?
– If such a massive space body passes through the Oort cloud, then, according to the disturbance theory, it can alter meteor and comet trajectories. Thats why it is quite possible that large scale disasters of cosmic origin that happened in the past (meteor, asteroid and comet impacts) where connected with Nemesis. Thus, its worth to look closer at it".
I thought there was a "Brown Giant" and a "White Dwarf" not a brown dwarf
Actually there are seven dwarfs and none of them are brown.
You was wrong then š
Actually, our sun will eventually become a white dwarf, not a brown dwarf, but none of us will be around to say, "See? I told you so."
There's a green giant, an iron giant, and a red dwarf, but that one's always lying shipwrecked and comatose drinking mango juice. I wouldn't bother him.
This is just a test from the new world order. They want to see how the masses react to this news. This discovery has been out there for several years and is now coming to a head and they need to find a way to explain it and debunk it. Just read the article again. Just remember they have somewhere to go while we all suffer.
Uh huh, they's the lizard people too... *sigh* take your meds >.<
Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.