Congresswoman wants to end military's NASCAR sponsorships
The National Guard logo is displayed all over popular NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s car, cap and fire suit.
February 16th, 2011
08:24 AM ET

Congresswoman wants to end military's NASCAR sponsorships

A member of Congress wants to end the military's sponsorship of NASCAR race teams, saying it's a waste of taxpayers' money.

Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minnesota, is offering an amendment to the 2011 House budget bill to ban the sponsorships, which her office said has cost the military $100 million over the past 10 years, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

The National Guard sponsors Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s team, the Army sponsors Ryan Newman, and the Air Force sponsors AJ Allmendinger, according to HamptonRoads.com.

"I would challenge the Pentagon to give me one example of someone today in Iraq or Afghanistan who saw the Go Army car going around the racetrack and that's why they joined the Army," Bill Harper, McCollum's chief of staff, told HamptonRoads.com. "It may be the reason why they go to Home Depot but not necessarily Afghanistan."

McCollum is in her sixth term and serves on the House Appropriations and Budget committees.

"NASCAR fans are the kind of people who fight America's wars, which would put into question the wisdom of banning the military's ability to reach out to them," NASCAR spokesman Randy Poston said in the HamptonRoads report.

More than 400 amendments to the budget bill have been offered. To become part of the law, they must survive subcommittee and committee votes as well as passage by the full House and Senate, followed by the president's signature.

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  1. Rich

    2011 budget. That's right kids, still no budget passed for the fiscal year that began in Oct of 2010. What do we pay these people for?

    February 16, 2011 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
  2. Lee S

    10 million a year hah.What a waste of print. How about we cut billions by cutting our foreign aid by about 90 percent. These new "rising superpowers" can flip the bill for once.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • A.G.

      Oh so you're one of those people who thinks we spend giant amounts of money on foreign aid. Guess what, its roughly about 1/2 of 1% of our total budget. That still adds up but it goes to good use, a strong positive image in the world provides more security then the military could ever hope to.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • CHIGUY

      I totally agree!! It's about time to stop funding these "welfare baby" nations. I am sick of my tax dollars being wasted. In the economic times we are in now, we should be focusing on the United States, not some third world country.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dana

      AMEN!!!

      February 16, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • ysidero

      Most of the tax money that goes overseas is military aid of one sort or another-either direct payments or subsidies like weapons, stationing our troops in Europe (to protect against what?). Humanitarian foreign aid is one thing we can be proud of as a nation. But of course the mean wing of American politics thinks that aid and aid to our own poor ought to be cut before we tax the rich.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • UConn

      It's not how much we spend, AG, it's how useless it is in most cases. I'm pretty sure we can safely pull the bases out of Germany we've had there for fifty years.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  3. mobrule

    hey, don't ask them to think or look beyond their hate! this congresswoman probably needs funding for her bridge to nowhere.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • william

      Thank you Conservatives for adding to our deficit, just like you promised.

      February 16, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jtk812

      It's not just conservatives; liberals do it, too. Adding to the deficit knows no ideological bounds.

      February 16, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Rev

    Bravo, Betty McCollum. We have a Republican sponsored fiscal crisis and wasting our money putting logos on cars is an insipid waste of money. If NASCAR wants to sponsor the armed forces and put their logo on tanks, jeeps, planes or subs, I more than welcome them to give their dollars to the American people for this endeavor.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Amused

      I completely agree! I have nothing against NASCAR, but there is no reason to waste over 100 million taxdollars to support a sport that is certainly NOT HURTING for money !

      February 16, 2011 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      If you read the article, they military will still have the budget for marketing, which is what a sponosr is on the cars. It's advertising. NASCAR is a force when it comes to advertiscing. Ask and marketing executive.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Sue

    And should we stop singing the Star Spangled Banner and have fly-overs for the beginning of NASCAR races also? Many of our military are fans of NASCAR, and I think it's one small way the American people can show their support of the our guys' efforts! I'm willing for my tax dollars to be spent in this way πŸ™‚

    February 16, 2011 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Linton Dawson

      Yes, they should cancel the fly-overs as well. Remeber – it's the rednecks' and republicans' wars that they're so fond of that put us deeper in the economic depression hole.

      who gives a rat's behind if nascar nutjobs like to shoot and kill things – don't waste MY money on your little boy fun.

      Here's an idea – if you rednecks are so fond of the military – why don't you pool your money and pay for the advertising yourself? Oh, but that would mean you would actaully have to follow through on your stated convictions....can't have that, now can we?

      February 16, 2011 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      You are probably willing to have your tax dollars spent that way because you get every penny of it back come tax return time and then some, thus, not your tax money.

      February 16, 2011 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • leeintulsa

      @Doug – you do realize (though it seems many are oblivious to this obvious fact) that while people who make less than around 50k don't pay income tax, they pay sales tax, sin tax, gas tax, utility taxes, every other tax. EVERYONE who pays for ANYTHING pays taxes.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeff

      Well, I'm, not willing to spend my tax dollars on sponsoring a sport. I think we should cut military ads in TV as well. People don't join the military because they saw an ad – they join because they are poor and need the money for college. Any high school senior knows that if he/she can't afford college that signing up for the armed services is a way to go. Cut spending in the defense department first!

      February 16, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sheogre

      @Jeff
      I find your remark about people joining the armed forces because they are poor or want to pay for college very offensive, as I have several friends who joined because they wanted to serve our country! One is serving in Afghanistan at this very moment, and another was in Iraq, one of the only units who actually went after the idiots who ambushed the road convoys! DO I NEED TO GO ON!!!??? They serve because they wanted to serve, like a great deal of the men and women in our armed services, it's not all about the money!

      February 16, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  6. C130vet

    The only people I'm aware of that refer to stock car racing as an exclusively "redneck" sport are the NASCAR haters. Where, for example, do you think improved better-performing auto parts come from? They were developed for auto racing first, then modified for street cars. Military sponsorship of racing teams has been an effective recruitment tool, as anyone would know who actually looked at the data. Racing sponsorship is expensive, and if it stopped being a cost-effective recruitment method you can be sure the Pentagon would cancel the program.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Linton Dawson

      By ALL MEANS! I mean when has the Pentagon ever been guilty of overpaying for things, right???!!!! $500 for a toilet seat seems fair to the Pentagon – so by all means, we best not doubt those honorable folks!

      February 16, 2011 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Amused

      Oh yes, I see your point – the pentagon WOULD NEVER WASTE TAXPAYERS MONEY, would they? !!! Oh PLEASE give me a break! I suppose you are wondering why people have such a negative impression of NASCAR fans? ...Hmmm

      February 16, 2011 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Kathy

      Yup, that sure is a good recruitment tool for NASCAR fans now that they dropped the education requirement drastically to get into the armed forces. YEEAWW!! Gonna get me a gun and kill for Jebus!!!!

      February 16, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Really?

      Wow, this is one of the weakest arguments ever.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • mhr

      I joined the military 18 years ago – first enlisted Marines, then officer track in the Army. I don't give a fig about NASCAR. The idiot who said that people who watch NASCAR are the same people who are in the Army is clearly misinformed and knows nothing about the military or its composition.

      February 16, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Linton Dawson

    Nice language by the nascar fan base.

    After you make an attempt to grow up it'd be nice to hear from you again.

    These people are entertained by bright shiney objects going around in circles......like a baby's toys!

    100 million to advertise to rednecks? Heck, they have no alternatives BUT to join the armed services....they know they can't cut college.

    And Republicans say they want to cut wasteful spending.....sheeesh.

    If NASCAR is so enamoured with killing people, perhaps they should put the dorky Army logo on their cars for free! I bet they're not THAT "patriototic"! NASCAR – an Army of money-grubbing rednecks!!!

    February 16, 2011 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Nik

      I agree with you, Nascar is bad enough killing the Eco system. I thought the Democrats had it bad, Republicans are worse, the same, nothing but the same. My point is I get flyovers in my Neighborhood. I think their should be no flyovers at all end of story. NASCAR could support protecting the Eco system. I would make a car that goes only by solar power. So Just save our taxpayer dollars by spending it on Math and Science so we can regain our number one position in the world. Math is where nascar should put its money, that includes Pentagon too.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      Rednecks? Are you that stupid? These race teams are lead by staffs of engineers! NASCAR doesn't care who sponsors cars. They just regulate the cars and tracks. Every major company in the US sponsors a race team and spend millions. Why? It's called marketing and NASCAR does a great job of putting the sponors name out there. Try opening up your mind instead of being a snot nosed know it all.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      Nic, NASCAR killing the eco system? Are you kidding me? What's causing all the traffic jams in NY, Chicago, LA and so forth? Bikes?

      February 16, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      You sound like a 3rd grader. I was actually starting to enjoy the comments because although they differed most mad a point unlike reading the Arizona paper. I don't like NASCAR but I do think it is a good return on advertising dollars, just like watching the promo for the National Guard/Army before a movie. And yes, I do think it gets people to look at the services. So just to bring the conversation down to your level, "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?"

      February 16, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  8. wha

    "NASCAR fans are the kind of people who fight America's wars..."?
    No, they're just the ones that go enlisted. The smarter ones become officers.

    Jeez what a dumb statement.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • hop damn

      you could not have made a more incorrect statement. Being an officer means that you have a college degree, but by no means does that make that individual more intelligent, or even necessarily better fit to lead. Quite often, the opposite is found to be true. College level courses like anthropology or basket-weaving really don't help out anyone on the battlefield anyways.

      February 16, 2011 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      The smart ones become officer's? Do you even realize the roles and responsibilities that the "stupid" enlisted you refer to have? I can assure you that they probably have more responsibility at their fingertips at age 20 than you do now. What do you do for a living anyway? It can't be that important, because your ignorance wreaks.

      February 16, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Linton Dawson

      Good point, wha.

      hop damn is just anti-intelligence.......no suprise form the nascar nutjobs! S/he (?) couldn't even pass basket weaving! S/he could not make the cut for college – so s/he disparages education. Same old same old from the right.....

      February 16, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Prior enlisted guy

      Typical response from an individual with absolutely no knowledge of the military other than what he or she has been feed. As a prior enlisted Army soldier I did not watch (or still watch) NASCAR, but to claim enlisted are some how less intelligent is simply a lame statement. I joined to help pay for my college, didn't ask mommy and daddy to help pay much as many of the haters on here probably have done. I now have a degree in electrical engineering making very good money. Apparently you know how to add to dumb statements.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amused

      To Hop Damn – Both Anthropology and Basket-Weaving would INDEED be quite helpful on today's battlefields of third world cultures and subsistance farming communities! Both subjects would greatly improve an officer's insight into local customs and trades! You are obviously NOT very educated are you? ...

      February 16, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Linton Dawson

      Oh, John – give us a break – they kill people....not exaclty a demanding job requirring intelligence.

      Of course, throwing puppies over a cliff and raping and murdering Iraqi families for fun – now they MUST have been smart to carry that off, huh?

      Oh, and chopping off fingers and other body parts is Ok if you're a US soldier....afterall, God is on our side, right?!

      February 16, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      What...officers dont fight in wars??

      February 16, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      @Linton Dawson, Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Ever done any research other than what you see in the news? All the military does is shoot people and cut off limbs. Hmmm, talk about a moronic uneducated statement

      "Oh, John – give us a break – they kill people....not exaclty a demanding job requirring intelligence.

      Of course, throwing puppies over a cliff and raping and murdering Iraqi families for fun – now they MUST have been smart to carry that off, huh?

      Oh, and chopping off fingers and other body parts is Ok if you're a US soldier....afterall, God is on our side, right?!"

      That's funny, I spent 7 years in the service without killing a single person. Though I did repair and keep working several squadrons of multi-million dollar aircraft. Not to mention having to wear a dosimetery meter for when I was doing work in the carriers reactor area (snipe country) . No education required there right? I'm just an uneducated hick that likes to kill things.
      might as well delete every post you made, obviously written by a fool that somehow learned what a keyboard does.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • hop damn

      LintonDawson and A. goodwin.- I was an active duty, enlited soldier for 4 years... and used the G.I. Bill to pay for undergrad after I came home. I am now a first year law student. just thought you might want some facts before you spout off more ignorance.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • hop damn

      Amused.... nicely done. guess i should have chosen better majors to pick on. But I am a college educated veteran for the record.

      and jim – of course officers fight too, my statements were not designed to take anything away from officers, but instead to point out the ignorance in putting down "dumb enlisted folk".

      February 16, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Palin 2012

    This people crying about cutting the budget are the same ones saying we need to fund this. Heck with the economy so "good" we don't need to spend much on recruiting for the military(a job). People are signing up for these jobs and the military is meeting all of their recruitment goals. Save the money and cut it from the budget.siged a Democrat d-man it!

    February 16, 2011 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
  10. Mom In MA

    Sorry but despite what good they do, and plenty of groups help those in need, the government has no business using our tax dollars to sponsor Nascar or any other sport. Nascar makes plenty of money all on it's own and you know it, to say the government support of the sport allows that sport to then help our soldiers is foolish. Period.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
    • JB

      NASCAR still prays before every race – – and usually remembers out loud those that serve so bravely

      February 16, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sagebrush Shorty

      And they know the words to the National Anthem, unlike the NFL.

      February 16, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • stickyd

      so by your logic, they shouldn't pay to send recruiters to schools and such? The sponsorship is part of marketing. Do you people not understand what marketing is? Go to a race and you see recruiters everywhere, and hundreds of thousands of people wearing and supporting those divisions. There are way too many other events and sports our military sponsors, so if you're going to end one, you have to end them all!

      February 16, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vietnam&IraqVet

      Again, the money is part of the recruiting budget. Let it go.

      February 17, 2011 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      What's the difference in advertising in NASCAR than it is the Super Bowl or any other TV commercial? Can you tell me that one?

      March 5, 2011 at 12:34 am | Report abuse |
  11. hop damn

    how about we cut out all the handouts for the lazy welfare crowd.... that'll save some loot

    February 16, 2011 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Linton Dawson

      you mean the rednecks that stand at the end of highway ramps? yep – we should cut them off!

      February 16, 2011 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Really?

      You mean like Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and all the rest of the NASCAR states that contribute less to the Federal Government than they receive? I'm all for it.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • A. Goodwin

      hop damn – So, education is worthless and all the people on welfare are just waiting for a handout. Yes, because in 2008 millions of Americans just had a mass attack of laziness. Oh and we should just all tell our kids to FORGET about school, because hey – doesn't matter. You are also of the ilk who wants to get rid of the Department of Education – you know, the branch of our government who provides funding to most schools in America. People like you scare me as it seems you want a dumb, uncivilized nation of people. My guess is that you probably never attended college, never served in the military, and probably are one paycheck away from joining the millons of other American's who have had to claim unemployement or because of financial status receive welfare payments.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kathy

      Yup:
      Traits of families on AFDC Aid for Dependant Children –
      Race:
      White 38.8%
      Black 37.2
      Hispanic 17.8
      Asian 2.8
      Other 3.4

      Myth: People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.

      Fact: Most welfare recipients are non-black, adult and on welfare less than two years at a time.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kathy

      Social Security is the nation's largest welfare program, although many Whites prefer to call it a retirement plan. The government writes retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. The reason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is six years shorter than that of Whites, meaning Black workers spend years paying into a retirement system only to have White retirees reap the benefits for a longer time. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • PRGMGR

      Kathy,

      What you don't mention is that the U.S. population consists of 65% White, 12.4% Black, 9.8% Hispanic, and 4.5% Asian.

      Your argument does not hold water if you compare ratio of welfare recipients by race. Using statistics in the manner you have is misleading – at best.

      February 16, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Donna

    NASCAR supports the armed forces and with NASCAR being such a part of the USofA what a better way for kids, teens and young adults to see GO ARMY or the National Guard car, then while watching NASCAR! I bet not one soldier would agree with this congress woman. She needs to put her sights on things that aren't offensive to support of the armed services like NASCAR does and find a real objective.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Julibear

      "support the armed services like NASCAR does" I hope you understand that it is the other way around in this case. Armed Services are supporting NASCAR, a sport that is not hurting for cash, by paying the driving teams to put the Army logo on cars.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • A. Goodwin

      Donna – Let me guess, you are oh so happy to pay for NASCAR, but so willing to go with the GOP proposed spending cuts that limit USDA, FDA, agriculture programs, totally gets rid of the Department of Education (the nations largest source of funding for schools), programs for energy and water....but hey, as long as we have NASCAR, we can all be fruitful and multiple...Wow, just wow.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
  13. The Truth

    As a former Naval Officer I agree with stopping sponsorships. As Chief Engineer I was always frustrated that I had to beg and borrow funds for repair parts to keep the ship seaworthy let alone combat ready while seeing the Navy and other Armed Services spend money so a civilian race car can go straight and make the occasional left turn.

    I do however support advertising for recruiting, they just need to use common and fiscal sense when doing it. Fly overs and other military displays are needed. For many civilians it is the only time they see or interact with the military. Also pilots are required so many hours to maintain their qualifications. So anytime they are flying those hours count so it is not just a public display but also counts for training.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Linton Dawson

      And you make the assumption that interacting with the military is a good thing....

      I'm really tired of all the soldiers who are nothing but murderers in uniforms being sentenced for their out of contrtol behavior. How about the military spend some time and money on rooting out the criminals in thier ranks?

      Military flyovers are notihing but Jingoistic displays of arrogance.

      February 16, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Nik

      I live in San Diego, CA a real Naval town and those Fly overs disturb the Eco system, but I see you point. Why can't they just keep the shut down for the night, and let civilians sleep peacefully at night? I am used to Eco system and protecting wildlife. I hope that someday, someone should show how much damage to the Eco system sir.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      They have studied it, Nik. The answer is it DOESN'T affect "the Eco". But you're free to believe what you wish.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Truth

      Nik, the answer is simple you need to train as you would fight and we fight in the day as well as night. It would be harder to explain to the Nation why a unit was over run and massacred at night because we didn't have anyone trained to conduct night air support missions rather than explain to a community why their beauty sleep is being disturbed. I'm sorry for the inconvience but I lived my entire military life under the same conditions, most of it only a couple of inches away from the flight deck. Freedom is not free and what you are hearing is the sound of freedom.

      February 16, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Dan

    This isn't a question of whether a person likes NASCAR or not. It's a question of how our government needs to cut expenses. Whether or not our Armed Forces advertise on race cars will not impact the health of NASCAR, but it does affect the national budget. Is this the only cut neede? Of course not. Will many other areas feel pain in the coming months and years as programs get reduced or cut? Absolutely. We need to take a look at all of our expenses, including Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Defense and discretionary spending. We can do this together or we can sit back, call each other names, and watch the problem get bigger. It's our choice.

    February 16, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Julibear

      Dan is the man! Voice of sanity, thank you!

      February 16, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Linton Dawson

    OK, we can ad racists to rednecks in describing the little boys who like to watch shiny objects go around in circles..... thanks for filling out the picture for us

    February 16, 2011 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      I bet you weren't so critical when the "racists and rednecks" were voting democrat pre-1980.
      Hypocrite.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom McCormick

      They aren't voting Democratic now. Connect A to B and you will see that not cutting this out of the budget is wasteful spending. Wasteful spending is what the Conservatives, Republicans, and former Southern Democrats (the majority of whom who have died since leaving the party, BTW) want. So, you can't rail on social programs as the only form of wasteful spending if you are a true conservative. We need massive cuts in the military budget – MASSIVE – compared to the ones the so called conservatives are offering. They want to preserve BILLIONS for weapons systems declared obsolete just so they can put a check in a defense contractor's pocket, so said defense contractor can send them maximum contributions at election time. Think about it.

      I am a Republican, but I am not blind. Open your eyes people: we could do without about 20% of our current military spending. Cut it to the bone.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Former Marine

      I beg to differ,
      Being a Marine, good on you, but there were a lot of Marines that I served with that don't deserve to wear that uniform.
      As for those who did not serve, they're contribution do NOT hold more or the same as my own. Being a combat Marine, and a person who sits on a computer all day and spits on American Serving IS a difference.

      I can be humble, but I can also be assertive.
      I agree with you, when it comes to cutting back on the spending, I actually agree with the idea's that you bring to light, but now I am NOT agreeing with your statements towards myself, and how you can turn your back by defending people who bring down your military.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe Blow

      Seriously tom? Lets cut our military's budget to the bone, but when something happens and we are not ready due to the massive cutbacks then i will remember you! You as one of the people that pushed to lessen the military's budget so that the people abusing welfare, and medicare could go on spending good peoples tax dollars.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • freedom4all

      Yeah because not funding the Nascar races poses a real national security threat.

      February 17, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
    • John C

      IT has not been 90 days since the repulicans threatened to stop all voting unless congress approved $700 Billion dollar in defecit spending to be given to the richest 2% at a time when they are thriving and and the rest of the country is hurting from thier failed idiology. Repulcians are using debt as a campaing tool and nothing more. This is all they know, same old promises of cutting spending and smaller government they have been talking about for 50 years and never once have they actually done it. "there's an old saying in Texas, Fool me once.....uhnn ahhnnn I mean,,, uhmm well ah, won't get fooled again"

      February 16, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • JeepOnRock

      Seriously? Show me a single check that was "given" to the "richest 2%" in the $700B give-away you speak of.

      Or is it that you can't find a way to distinguish between allowing someone to keep something that they EARNED and someone getting a check. You probably think that the "Earned Income Tax Credit" is earned income.

      Just a little reality check for you... allowing people to KEEP money they earned is NOT spending. Giving people money that they DIDN'T earn IS spending. We need to stop handing out money to the looter class and let people from the productive class keep their money.

      Just another example of Democrats failing to use logic and reason in their arguments.

      February 17, 2011 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • a

      Yeah. Contractors get paid an unholy amount of money.

      February 16, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick F

      Oh yeah? Where is it??? I'm waiting for mine. In the mean time, I wonder why it takes THREE GOVERNMENT GS-15s at $150K a year to do the work that a single contractor could do in half the time. The reason is that you can't fire the government people! And before anyone spouts off about my comments here, I spent a career in the military as enlisted then an officer and now a contractor. I've given the last 40 years of my life to the government and that 3 x $150K a year waste has been around for DECADES. It's Obama's fault, Bush's fault, Clinton's fault, the other Bush's fault and so on. OUR GOVERNMENT IS BLOATED!!!!!! And every new program that gets started means another new layer of bureaucracy to supervise it. Pay for healthcare by getting rid of half the jobs in Washington. Fewer bureaucrats means fewer people to lobby and consequently fewr lobbyists.

      February 16, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • AGeek

      Amen!

      February 17, 2011 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
    • WHAT?

      So what we really need is just a couple dozen RickF's running around and they could fire the whole government. Feeling a little self important this morning are we?

      February 17, 2011 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Anna

      I am a democrat with literally hundreds of years of family military service in the USA and I completely agree with you. Your statement is well reasoned and well presented. Nice to hear a voice of sanity coming out of the internet. Thank you.

      February 17, 2011 at 9:45 am | Report abuse |
    • A Veteran

      Tom you are so wrong in stating that you want to cut our military to the bone. I bet you would want them go back to fighting with bows and arrows. Well just remember why you are able to make statements like this! It is our military that keeps us safe from the Islamic extremists and countries like Iran that hate us. Next time you go to the store to buy something or to a movie, remember why you are able to do this!

      February 17, 2011 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Joey Brewer

      So, according to you, every NASCAR fan is a racist redneck who likes nothing more than to sit around watching cars go by really fast? Thats probably the dumbest comment I have read on here. You know what, I'm a redneck, and I say things occasionally that could be considered racist, so does that mean that I watch NASCAR?

      February 16, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey Brewer

      Sorry, my previous comment is directed to Linton Dawson.

      February 16, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      There is a reply option. lol

      February 16, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey Brewer

      It didn't work the first time.

      February 16, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • AmishAirline

      Judging by the fact that you are commenting on this article? Yes. Next question.

      February 16, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pimp

      Yes it does.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Super Gus

      What a hypocrite!

      February 16, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • amazed @ the duplicitousness

      You sure do seem to like to throw the word racist around......

      Kettle?...the Pot is calling you....

      February 16, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sheogre

      Well, I can assure you that not all NASCAR fans are completely redneck, or racist, or ignorant, with the smarts to look at both sides of the fence in a debate, but still argue my point. Hope you don't think ALL of us are bad...

      February 16, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sheogre

      Sorry, this was supposed to be a reply to Linton Dawson

      February 16, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
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