Wisconsin businessman: Havoc isn't 'what this process is about'
Dan Mulder of Madison says the political bickering is out of hand. "He who creates the most mayhem prevails in the day.”
February 19th, 2011
05:24 PM ET

Wisconsin businessman: Havoc isn't 'what this process is about'

Dan Mulder is staying away from the marching and chanting around the Capitol steps in Madison and staying put in his office and warehouse. But it’s not because he doesn’t have an opinion. Far from it.

Mulder is the general manager and chief executive officer of a local business employing 25 people. He’s seen costs skyrocket and health care insurance premiums continue to rise.

He describes himself as an independent — he did not vote for the recently inaugurated Gov. Scott Walker. These days, however, he says Walker’s plan on fixing the budget deficit, which includes removing public sector employees’ collective bargaining rights, is right on the mark.

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“I just think [Walker] deserves an Oscar for standing up,” Mulder said. “He’s got the resilience and the constitution to stand up and take on this issue.

“He fully realizes and understands that you can’t pay with what you don’t have, so he’s trying to live within his means. And that’s something that is completely foreign as a concept to most government sectors because if they need more money, they just raise taxes. The people who are paying those taxes are saying, ‘We can’t pay any more’.”

Mulder is a proponent of a civil and rational dialogue and exchange of ideas. He says the protests and chaos happening at the Capitol is not the way to go about getting things done.

“He who is loudest, he who is most vocal, he who creates the most mayhem prevails in the day,” Mulder said, shaking his head. “That should never be what this process is about."

“It’s really tragic because this is somewhat akin to the Civil War. Not that we’re at that level and hopefully we won’t be. But you’ve got brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor—that’s how driven this argument is.”

As far as the Democratic legislators fleeing the state to prevent a vote on the controversial bill, Mulder says they were elected to do a job - and not just when they feel like it.

“The last time I woke up, we were in a democratic society,” Mulder said, adding that the November elections — which put both a Republican governor and Republican legislature in place—were a clear mandate that it’s their turn to try some solutions.

“That Republican administration has been put in place by public mandate. And now that they’re exercising that mandate there's a minority of the population that doesn’t want to conform to that. Then it’s not a democracy anymore.”

He concluded by saying if people aren’t careful, the situation could eventually turn into anarchy.

“It’s tragic.”

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  1. ameritianity


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    "A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

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    February 21, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeff

      HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You've just got to love this morons rhetoric! Why don't you just go play paint ball with the rest of your boyfriends.

      February 21, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Patty

    Secret S. Here is 101 politics. Since 1848 thru 2011 6 democrats as Gov of Wisconson. HMMMM..
    NOTE: Wisconson has no term limits. HMMM
    Gov Walker defeated Jim Doyle who was Gov for 8 years.2003-20010 When Gov Doyle took office he had a deficit of3.2 billion.in 2007 it was 2.5 billion. He lobbyed the repubs for taxes on oil companies " 270" Mill they said no
    He tried again in 2009 They said no again.Gov Doyle then Laid off 700 state workers and then another 400. Then he taxed cigarettes .75 cents. For more info go to HOW IS YOUR GOVERNOR DOING. Its the national review.

    By the way 35 states have mandatory collective bargaining , 11 states permitt CB and, 5 states do not allow it.
    During Gov Scott tenure in his position as County Executive he increased spending by 35 percent.There is more on Walker U should read about. The one thing that has no transparancy is the Budget. HMMM.
    In this budget there are hundreds of amendments for spending that we cannot see. The people should shout out show us the budget!!! REAL LOUD!

    Hope this has been informative. I should be CNN news reporter a radical one because we have to keep the pols honest with much more transparancy on where our tax dollars R spent.GOOD NIGHT and GOOD LUCK!

    February 21, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Patty

    Hey Deadguy!!

    U must be dead to think the last administration spent ouur $$ to keep us safe!!! Duh!! Do your homework or at least get your facts straight. Who U think got us in this mess? OBAMA ROCKS!!

    February 21, 2011 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
  4. secretsquirrel

    I am trying to figure out what the difference is between the state taking money away from people and the people taking money away from the... oh wait, that's you and me! This is little different than those crying for higher taxes for the "rich." While people are trying to make this a David and Goliath issue, it's really not. It's Joe Average not being able to pay Joe Aboveaverage what Jo Aboveaverage feels he is worth.
    I agree that there is a need and a place for unions. I also agree that government has gotten too large and inefficient. By protecting government jobs, pensions and wages that we can no longer afford, how is it to the average citizen's benefit to bankrupt the government? People are looking to government to create jobs and the single biggest thing that can create jobs is consumer activity. Investers are hanging on to their cash because no one is buying anything. People are not buying anything because they either can't afford it or they are afraid to part with their cash.
    If investors don't invest and consumers don't spent, what is the government supposed to do about that? Create" jobs? The only way government can do that is to spend more money that we don't have. In other words, they need to create more debt. It's pretty close to being that simple. Yes, jobs have gone overseas and actually, there is a number of expats that have done the same. Most of us do not have that option. If nothing else, I would suggest that a moratorium be placed on collective bargaining in the government sector for five years and a freeze on wages for two years with a cap of 2% in the first year that those wages are up for review
    Further, I would suggest that all government wages be held to a maximum % over the average wages paid for comparable positions in the private sector. There is no reasonable explanation for pubic employees being able to negotiate 4 – 6 – 10% wage/benefit increase while the rest of the country is receiving 0 – 2%.

    February 25, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Jay

    The GOP has been selling out the USA for years... Start checking out the "Security and Prosperity Partnership" GW Bush sold us out in 2005, and now they have plans to build a super highway from Mexico to Canada. Did you ever wonder why GW Bush didn't want a real fence? Google "Connie Fogal" from Canada and you will see protests that have been going on for years, but you never heard a word. Search "A Special Message from Congressman Tancredo" on you tube. Google "Mexican Military Helicopters Crossing The U.S. Border Congressmen Poe Burton" Who would ever allow that that wanted a fence up?

    February 27, 2011 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
  6. factsonlyplease

    Dan Mulder sounds like one of the few sane people with an opinion on this issue. I wholeheartedly agree with pretty much everything he said. It's absolutely frightening how the Left has allowed themselves to be whipped up into a frenzy of demonization for everything and everyone who disagrees with them on fiscal policy. I'm glad I left the Democratic party to be a moderate independent. We need more people willing to understand the other side rather than vilify them.

    March 2, 2011 at 4:36 am | Report abuse |
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