Wisconsin businessman: Havoc isn't 'what this process is about'
Dan Mulder of Madison says the political bickering is out of hand. "He who creates the most mayhem prevails in the day.”
February 19th, 2011
05:24 PM ET

Wisconsin businessman: Havoc isn't 'what this process is about'

Dan Mulder is staying away from the marching and chanting around the Capitol steps in Madison and staying put in his office and warehouse. But it’s not because he doesn’t have an opinion. Far from it.

Mulder is the general manager and chief executive officer of a local business employing 25 people. He’s seen costs skyrocket and health care insurance premiums continue to rise.

He describes himself as an independent — he did not vote for the recently inaugurated Gov. Scott Walker. These days, however, he says Walker’s plan on fixing the budget deficit, which includes removing public sector employees’ collective bargaining rights, is right on the mark.

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“I just think [Walker] deserves an Oscar for standing up,” Mulder said. “He’s got the resilience and the constitution to stand up and take on this issue.

“He fully realizes and understands that you can’t pay with what you don’t have, so he’s trying to live within his means. And that’s something that is completely foreign as a concept to most government sectors because if they need more money, they just raise taxes. The people who are paying those taxes are saying, ‘We can’t pay any more’.”

Mulder is a proponent of a civil and rational dialogue and exchange of ideas. He says the protests and chaos happening at the Capitol is not the way to go about getting things done.

“He who is loudest, he who is most vocal, he who creates the most mayhem prevails in the day,” Mulder said, shaking his head. “That should never be what this process is about."

“It’s really tragic because this is somewhat akin to the Civil War. Not that we’re at that level and hopefully we won’t be. But you’ve got brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor—that’s how driven this argument is.”

As far as the Democratic legislators fleeing the state to prevent a vote on the controversial bill, Mulder says they were elected to do a job - and not just when they feel like it.

“The last time I woke up, we were in a democratic society,” Mulder said, adding that the November elections — which put both a Republican governor and Republican legislature in place—were a clear mandate that it’s their turn to try some solutions.

“That Republican administration has been put in place by public mandate. And now that they’re exercising that mandate there's a minority of the population that doesn’t want to conform to that. Then it’s not a democracy anymore.”

He concluded by saying if people aren’t careful, the situation could eventually turn into anarchy.

“It’s tragic.”

soundoff (233 Responses)
  1. JD

    Go get the bill there: http://budget.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/0211walkerbudgetlrb.pdf

    There will be a test after you read it.

    February 19, 2011 at 10:12 pm | Report abuse |
  2. parkesrevan

    I have posted this already here before You guys should stop complaining because, one the health care we have now isnt as good as it was supposed to be. also the law has just been signed so give it some time. so if u want to say u have the right to choose tell that to ur congress men or state official. If you do not have insurance and need one You can find full medical coverage at the lowest price check search online for "Wise Health Insurance" If you have health insurance and do not care about cost just be happy about it and believe me you are not going to loose anything!

    February 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Cesar

    @DONALD DUCK: Would you like that taco to be chicken or beef, corn or flour tortilla??

    February 19, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  4. JD

    Its an interesting bill. Not much thought put into it. He believes that anyone in a union in one year would probably want out the next but might be afraid to ask, so he puts the weight of finding out on the shoulders of the union. Why doesn't Walker find out from those people on his own by having his staff contact each person in writing to get their opinions? Look at the jobs that would be created! Maybe they should try this same thing on elections of public officials to find out if the people are really satisfied with who they elected a year after the elections, and consider holding new elections if the people are in favor. ..and maybe they should have the politicians send out questionaires to decide if the people think they are doing a good enough job to give them a raise....or a cut. Or, better yet..... Walker could add a 20% pay cut to his bill as a compromise.....showing his leadership abilities....and also subject his fellow governing bodies to the same cuts.....we might be close to 14% after that, and we'd still have money to teach our children.

    February 19, 2011 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scottish Mama

      Maybe the only thought was busting unions. How come the unions are the only ones to give, shouldnt the other wiscon people who are coming to protest the protesters should give up 5% of their checks also. bigger pool to draw from?

      February 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Report abuse |
  5. JD


    Nick – You're a maroon!! The U.S. one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. Try to educate yourself before you go and spout your b.s.

    Maroon is derived from French marron ("chestnut"), which would make nick a, "Pretty Color." I would assume you meant for nick to be a "moron" which would mean you meant he was mildly retarded.

    Just making sure, because I saw your assessment of the use of the word "your" vs. "You're. Like CNN says.... Keeping you honest!

    February 19, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeadGuy

      Why, thank you JD, but actually I meant exactly what I wrote...

      Fortunately or unfortunately, I had the opportunity to grow up with a mandatory weekly exposure, usually on a Saturday morning, to that most extraordinary of philosophers, Bugs Bunny...

      While its use may not be commonplace, it is found in a dictionary; actually placed as the first definition.


      1. maroon
      A term of derision often uttered by Bugs Bunny when referring to an interaction with a dopey adversary. It is a mispronunciation of the word "Moron"
      "What a Maroon!" "Will ya get a load of this maroon"

      5. maroon
      A malapropism and favorite expression of Bugs Bunny, after outwitting Elmer Fudd. Usually uttered by Bugs this while walking away and wiping his hands in satisfaction. The joke of course is that Bugs mispronounces "moron."
      Bugs: "What a maroon."

      See, I even have a sense of humor.

      February 19, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |
  6. JD


    February 19, 2011 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
  7. JD

    I just got wind of a story that 7000 national guardmen from 4 surrounding states are enroute to Madison.

    February 19, 2011 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Madtown guy

      From who?

      February 19, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeadGuy

      Hey JD... Still haven't seen anything in the news about those National Guard folks. Got any links? Thanks.


      February 20, 2011 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
  8. monte

    walker and mulder are a couple of dirty cheese eating rats!

    February 19, 2011 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |

      i hate chucky cheese.. that dirty rat makes the worst pizza

      February 19, 2011 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      ...and it's juvie customers, germ monkeys, spread e coli and urine every where...

      February 20, 2011 at 12:49 am | Report abuse |
  9. John

    Walker was elected by 33% of the voting population of Wisconsin, Barrett received 29%, and the majority of Wisconsin's eligible voters the remaining 38% are not being asked what they think of Governor Walker's Budget Repair Bill. I think it is about time somebody finds out who is really supporting this bill.

    February 20, 2011 at 1:01 am | Report abuse |
  10. Patty

    The november election were won because of the mandate of the tea party. Mr. Walker is a tea party member and he has to do whatthey told him to do if he wanted to be Gov. GET IT!!!!
    Listen to the other states won by the tea party they R doing the same thing. Obama simply made changes nothing radical. This was his platform when he ran for office. Hope. U folks understand politics if not go take a course in Politcal science.GOOD LUCK and GOOD Night!!

    February 20, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
  11. Patty

    PS.. The budget does have to be balanced until of this year. So stop giving tax breaks to big business especially those that contributed lots of $$$ toward his election.Mr. Walker needs to hear the people or else recall him. IT CAN BE DONE! I Live in beautiful sunny Florida and if this crooked Gov Scott tries this crap here we will be ready for him.. He was also elected by the tea party. GOOD LUCK and GOOD NIGHT!!!

    February 20, 2011 at 1:36 am | Report abuse |
  12. Patty

    Sorry, Budget has until June of this year!!!

    February 20, 2011 at 1:38 am | Report abuse |
  13. timmy

    wisconsin is the new china...

    February 20, 2011 at 2:03 am | Report abuse |
  14. Patty

    GUYS!! There is nothing funny about what is happening in Wisconson and other states.JD made a lot of good points. We as americans have to stick together and support our fellow americans. Politicians that really care Are hard to find. Most of them have their own agenda and R in it for face time on TV and a free ride to more money.Some these Pols R old and should retire. If we vote without research then, we deserve what we get.

    February 20, 2011 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
  15. Patty

    I would like to know what budget mess Gov Walker inherited. Please spell out exactly what he found when
    he took office,
    give me details.

    When elections come around again and before U vote approach it as if U R buying a car. Ask about the performance of the car, where it came from, how is it rated and will it accommodate your friends and family. Research the candidate as if U were buying a car which, to most people a big investmentand if after 4 to 5 years its still performing well U keep it. If a politician erforms well and is good for their state or country then, we reelect him or her.
    In other words do your homework next and we not have to see what is going in this country. GOOD NIGHT and GOOD LUCK!!

    February 20, 2011 at 2:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      Turn the tables and impeach gov walker out of his employment. The state is an employer, you unions should be filing charges instead of just mouthing...

      February 20, 2011 at 7:30 am | Report abuse |
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