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Army disciplines 9 for not flagging Fort Hood suspect
The secretary of the U.S. Army has disciplined nine officers for failing to warn of problems with Maj. Nidal Hasan - the officer accused of committing the 2009 Fort Hood shootings - before he was assigned to Fort Hood, Texas.
Secretary John McHugh's move comes after the service reviewed the circumstances leading up to the Fort Hood shootings, in which 13 people were killed and 43 others were wounded.
McHugh "initiated adverse administrative action against nine officers for administrative and leadership failures relating to the career" of Hasan, according to an Army statement released Thursday.
The officers were not identified. The Army statement said the severity of the discipline varied depending on the actions of each officer.
The Army report found no single factor led ultimately to the shooting but "certain officers clearly failed to meet the high standards expected of their profession."
In addition, the Army secretary has ordered a review of how evaluations of personnel are conducted and procedures for training and counseling
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So the army would of not let him in because he's crazy or a fanatic or whatever but the protocol is to let him loose back in society where he can get his own gun like Jared Loughner.
Either way, it would just be other people that die, but the army doesn't invest in civilians now do they!
Kid Canada, are you talking about someone ELSE or stupid or mixing facts or stupid or confused OR stupid. The guy ah, was in the ah ARMY!
Do you realize there are MORE DA (Department of the Army) Civillians than there are Army Soldiers......google it you will be amazed!
March 10, 2011 How do we know this is a fair decision by the miiitary? There's no details, no information to show why the decision to discipline officers was taken. Thus, how are we to recommend, or not recommend this action?
Way to show off those american reading comprehension skills there scotty. Great Job!
Armymedic,
There are not more DA civilians than soldiers. There are about 550,000 active duty soldiers and slightly more than that number of reservists and National Guard. There are about 700,000 total civilians across all of the Department of Defense, but that number covers DOD itself plus DA, DON (and USMC), and USAF.
well, beats a country where RCMP officers taser and kill a tourist in an international airport, and shoot and kill unarmed civilians, then get to go back out and have coffee and donuts and still kill some others like that corporal monty robinson.
I bet these were not high ranking officers. The high ranking officers wiggle out of the blame.
If there is any justice the Surgeon general of the Army must head the list. It was his system that failed so spectacularly and consequentially
So now they're shutting the barn door? That horse ran out long ago.
How about more preemption and less punishment-after-the fact.
You can't handle the truth! I gave the order for Code Red! Santiego was a weak soldier. We had to weed him out.
i hope youre not thinking you are quoting the movie a few good men exactly. you are way off. ive seen it 100 times. no sh1t.
Funny thing is Jack Nickelson reminds me of Cesar , no pun intended , like your style
Letter of Reprimand ending their careers is not strong enough for these officers. They put THEIR own careers ahead of the safety of fellow soldiers. SAME thing is being done by stupid OFFICERS about allowing females in "Infantry, Armor, Arty, Cav and Special Forces" ALL because THEY are not getting promoted! There are NO problems with promotions in the ENLISTED ranks due to gender or race. MOST of the problems are with getting enough Admirals and Generals WHICH are selected by CONGRESS! That should be EASY to fix because most all of the rats in Congress have never served and thus should be easily looking at OER's for outstanding Officers NOT just if they have served in a Combat Arms position. That said would you want a General deciding how to deploy ground forces in a Combat Zone that has spent their career moving equipment NOT soldiers on the battlefield.
NOW is not the time to put young kids in additional harm’s way by slowing them down or "decreasing" combat "effectiveness."
Hooah!!
The problem is letting a bunch of foreigners into the military. How did you morons not see this coming?
Brian,
The issue here isn't foreignors, having people of foreign birth in the Army dates back to the Revolutionary War and for the most part it has been a great asset to the Army. Tthe issue at hand is the stigma that would have been attached to those disciplined had they raised the alarm earlier. They would have been called paranoid bgots and sent packing because they dared call the kettle black. The Court Martial for Major Hasan needs to start tonight and should be over by tomorrow. Appeals done by Monday and the Rope stretched by Tuesday morning....
Nidal Hasan was born in Virginia so I'm not quite clear on where the foreign part come is...just wondering.
It's an Empire, what do you expect?? All imperial powers wind up with subject peoples. Look, you even got a black in the White House now! Yeah, yeah, he's no foreigner, but he definitely wouldn't have been considered All-American by polite society just fifty years ago.
He was Born and educated in Virginia. A Muslim yes, but not a foreigner.
Is this the best CNN news producers can do, or the first story with subsequent updates fleshed out as new and more information is developed?
For those of you who don't know anything about medical education let me inform you of how difficult it is to "fire" a trainee. The officer responsible for the training of this man identified a problem before he ever went to Ft. Hood. His superiors were afraid to dismiss the man for fear of accusations of racial discrimination. Ending the career of a young doctor is a hard step. Those of us in medical education concerned with the welfare of the public cannot be afraid to take that step...but it is a VERY painful and potentially litigious process for all concerned. This was all mentioned in previous new coverage. I feel very sorry for Hasan's Psychiatry program director. He recognized the potential issue and was not allowed to take appropriate steps.
Thanks for speaking up. It's an outrage, all the same, but I am really curious about exactly what the Army faults these folks for. I was definitely suspecting the racial discrimination angle and the lack of personnel angle, too, even.
Shouldn't they be disciplining 10 guys? How about the guy who pulled the trigger? Oh wait...he's innocent until proven guilty even though dozens of people show him do it. My bust.
Michael Raphael wrote:
March 10, 2011 How do we know this is a fair decision by the miiitary? There's no details, no information to show why the decision to discipline officers was taken. Thus, how are we to recommend, or not recommend this action?
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Michael, you don't get to learn of or judge personnel decisions. They're none of your business. Those involved have the option to appeal any actions they feel are unfair.
How many of these officers have the guts and morals to do as Denzel's character at the end of "Courage Under Fire?"
There are plenty of things that went wrong and poor leadership needed to be addressed. KidCanada...When Canada gets a military please feel free to respond, until then, keeping eating those pancakes and tossing maple bombs.
Hate to burst your American ego but Canada has one of the best militaries in the world, perhaps not the best and newest equipment but the best people. Stop being so ignorant and self-absorbed and do some research before making broad, uneducated comments.
Actually SueQ, your military sucks. I did manuevers with them and do speak from experience. I see that you were in the military? Have a coke and a smile.
Another unfortunate example of where being too PC in this country is going to get us
Has this creep stll been drawing Major's pay and allowances for these last two years? Any pay he gets should be contributed to the families of his numerous victims, or else the Red Cross. This bum is under arrest and charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and should not be receiving a single dime since pulling the trigger.
Why is he not addressed as 'the accused', or as 'detainee' instead of Major Hasan? He forfeited his respect, rank and benefits two years ago by pulling the trigger on his unarmed and helpless 'fellow soldiers'. Please don't tell me enlisted men, Lt's and Captains have to salute this sorry POS!
I know what went wrong. The nine officers involved, plus the secretary of the army, john john mcpewk, failed to rightfully understand the delicate and intricate feelings of a radical, hateful, terrorist, islamist pig like nidal hassan.
Hooah!