Canada's House of Commons has approved a no-confidence resolution in the Conservative government by a 156-145 vote. The move will trigger the dissolution of Parliament and national elections to select a new government.
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WOW! What started all that?
Budget
Hey!Maybe we should do that.
As far as I know, we have no process for that. Besides, what's the difference between one group of power-mad self-important criminals and the next? Government made all the trouble we have. I'd say it's time to abandon the concept of government entirely. Let the chips fall as they may.
I would second that motion. I finnally believe our government has lost it's ability to readjust itself. It has become the single reason that nothing gets done. We are strangling ourselves just to get someone in that is in for there own self importance. Untill regular people get into office and send the others packing (including lobbyist) we are doomed to follow the rich white boys laws.
When I'm here ppl say how good things are in Canada.
Now can anyone answer David?
To answer David:
Im a canadian so obviously this is all weve been hearing about recently,
In the canadian parlimentry system, there is the ruling party and the opposition. When the Budget is released the opposition can call a vote of non confidence in the ruling party (the conservatives in this case). The vote was passed because the ruling party does not hold a majority government and the opposition was able to forge alliance with 2 smaller parties in order to get more votes then the conservatives.
There were many problems that the opposition had with the budget, but it is usually a tactic used to force an election. this will be election number 4 in 7 years.
The problem for the ruling party is that they do not hold a majority, if so this vote may not have happen as the opposition would have had to rely on conservatives turning on their own party.
The problem is calling an election now may look like a slick idea for the opposition but it could result in the ruling party stealing a majority government, not likely but certainly a possiblity.
This is suppose to be used as a last resort a failsafe for the people, but lately its only been happening because no one has be able to gain a majority.\\Hope this helps.
In Canada we have a parliamentary system of government (simiilar to the UK).
Because the government did not have a majority of the 308 seats in Parliament (it had 156) and 3 other parties had the rest of the seats, the government fell because the other 3 parties passed a non confidence motion in the government because it was in contempt of parliament for not sharing financial information about plans it was making to buy fighter jets and build prisons, amongst other things i.e. the government did not have enough votes to stay in power.
As long as the government made an attempt to get along with the other parties, it would have stayed in power. The governing party did not do that. Hence, an election.
well put
Actually, the Conservatives have 143 seats – not 156. 156 is the number of MP's that voted to agree with the findings of the parliamentary committee saying that the Conservatives were in contempt of Parliament, and that they have lost the confidence in the government.
Just for everyone's information purposes the current makeup of the Canadian House of Commons is:
Conservatives: 143
Liberals: 77
Bloc Quebecois: 49
New Democratic Party: 36
Independent: 1
Independent Conservative: 1
The house also has 3 seats that are vacant.
The vote today was 156-145. So that would be 156 (Liberals + Bloc + NDP) and 145 (Conservatives + Independent + Independent Conservative)
Hmmm. Soo when the minority party wants a majority they make back room deals to force another election in order to make an attempt at getting the majority? 4 elections in 7 years you say? Isn't that costly and/or inefficient? You could take any issue and raise a stink about it publicly while behind closed doors you're scheming to gain more seats and thus more influence/power. Sounds kinda stupid and I'm one of the people in America whom like Canada.
That can only happen in cases where there is a minority government. This is traditionally very rare. If you look back on the history of Canadian governments there have only been 13 minority governments and some have lasted less than a year (i.e. an election was called and a majority government was voted in).
There are actually some interesting positives to minority governments. First, since there is no clear majority, the leading party must be far more diplomatic when interacting with the minority (i.e. you have to please everyone). The irony is that at times some of the best legislation has been passed during minority governments, because if the leading party leans to far right from the minorities, they run the risk of a vote of no confidence. They are in a sense forced to be moderates.
The negative side is that governments could be toppled in cases where either the majority or minority fail to compromise. BUT, there is a dangerous side to this for the parties forming a coalition. The Canadian people typically have only so much patience for multiple elections. It can be tremendously unpopular to topple a government without a good justification for doing so, and the minorities could end up losing the balance of power in the next election.
In the end I like having the option of the occasional minority government. It clearly indicates to them that the people are not suitably impressed with parties on either side to form a majority, so they better get their act together. Obviously, it wouldn't be efficient to have them all the time though.
What is really positive about being able to topple the government at anytime is that although it is costly it means that if the government is not fullfilling its mandate, or if it is abusing its power, you can dissolve government. The Alternative is being stuck with a government regardless of if it is doing its job or not. It really makes the government responsible to its people. Very little cost for government accountability.
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They're spending the poor canadians fortune on war in libya, fired em! Any govt engaged in war anywhere should be fired. Washing's next, only if we had bigger balls here in the states! Millionaires and politricians steals billions and congress sent em on private jet vacation while at the sametime the fed build prisons more then schools to send our children in jail for taking a donut. Sad democracy!
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@Microbial: They have been having them all the time there (4 in 7 years). That would happen every few weeks here in the states, although I like the idea of forcing people to meet in the center on issues. Here in America they just buy votes with the promise of federal dollars going to someone's home state.
I love the minority situation. Here in Canada a lot of power rests in the PM's office, and our parties tend to keep a 'big book of what we didn't tell you we were going to do" hidden until they get a majority.
Some very big issues that would have swayed voters "usually negatively" are not discussed during election time, and then SURPRISE about midterm they hit us with a new tax, a wonky social engineering law, or other item to please there grassroots.
When it's a minority they cannot usually go radical in any direction, when they do have a majority, they really can do pretty much anything they want.
Unlike in the u.s the parties almost never vote against eachother, and the vote is always whipped.
In a majority, the only pressure on the p.m is from his party. They can still remove a sitting pm and elect another leader, and that person would becomes the new pm. Don't think it has ever happened, but this pressure makes them often come up with half baked ideas that have percolated up from the loonies at the grassroots.
Tunisia, egypt, now canada. I'm glad the canadians are finally free 🙂
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WOW! You moved me, I think i'll give .50 cents to a homeless person today.
Egypt, I can understand, BUT Canada
I guess so.