White children in the minority in 10 states
April 6th, 2011
07:24 PM ET

White children in the minority in 10 states

White children are now in the minority among people under 18 in 10 U.S. states and 35 large metro areas, according to a Brookings analysis of 2010 Census data.

The number of white children in metro areas including Atlanta, Georgia; Dallas, Texas; Orlando, Florida; and Phoenix, Arizona, fell below that of other children in the last decade as the population of white children nationwide declined by 4.3 million, the report said.

The decline occurred as the number of children identified as "new minorities" - Hispanics, Asians and other racial groups apart from whites, blacks and American Indians - grew by 5.5 million, the report said.

Hispanics registered an increase of 4.8 million, which kept the nation's overall child population from declining, the report said. The findings reflect changes in the racial makeup of the overall U.S. population with Hispanics becoming the nation's largest and fastest growing minority group.

Hispanics now comprise 23% of children, up from 12% in 1990, while whites now comprise just 53% of youth, down from nearly 70%  in 1990.

The findings also underscore projections that the country will become "white minority" by 2042 as the race's median age keeps increasing. The child population stands to hit that mark in 2023.

"Slower growth among whites owes in part to their lower fertility rate - about 1.9 births per white woman, compared with 3.0 births per Hispanic woman - as well as a relatively low contribution to population growth from immigration" the report stated.

From 2000 to 2009, only 15% of growth in the immigrant population was attributable to whites, compared with 78% for Hispanics, Asians and other new minorities.

The report also said the aging white population contributes to a lower growth rate because proportionately, fewer white women are in their child-bearing years.

"The median age of whites is 41, compared to 27 for Hispanics, 35 for Asians, and a staggering 20 for the population of more than one race. As a further reflection of these age differences by race and ethnicity, just one-fifth of U.S. whites are under age 18, compared with one-third of all Hispanics."

The study also found that the decline in white children reduced the growth rate of the overall child population, from 13.7% in the 1990s to 2.6% in the 2000s. Though variation from state to state in child growth was considerable, on the whole, 46 states registered declines in their white child populations.

Not surprisingly, most of the states that experienced growth in populations of minority children are the ones where white children are in the minority: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi and Maryland.

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  1. C.Justice

    Neal, don't you know that white children have been getting a free ride for hundreds of years?

    April 7, 2011 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Krissy

      can you prove this?

      April 7, 2011 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
  2. FreshxWater

    CNN what is a "White Child"?

    April 7, 2011 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
  3. Weallhaveone

    Welcome to the real world.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
  4. Don

    When will reverse racism stop? We have a black president. Whites are in the minority. Equal opportunity as it is currently understood is out-dated.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Pedro

      Reverse racism will stop when whites stop their hatred and stereotyping of people of other races/ethnic groups. Look at many of these posts at CNN.com. They are all about Mexicans, Hispanics and they are very negative and full of hate. I am not saying all of the posts. From reading many of the posts on sites such as CNN and yahoo, it is obvious that racism is alive and well.

      April 7, 2011 at 3:27 am | Report abuse |
  5. Carl

    Why does CNN even allow comments on stories like this? They may as well say "ignorant xenophobes please post here!"

    April 7, 2011 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      @Carl, CNN has the last laugh...and it permitted your ignorant xenophobic post...

      April 7, 2011 at 2:15 am | Report abuse |
  6. Thinking out of the box

    This article is dumb. But I think white skin color mixed with any race color makes beautiful children. Whites being a minority is not such a bad thing, but I question the intent of this article. White people don't worry. I think eventually white people will become much darker with the Ozone layer becomming thinner and the sun getting closer.....But I love all people of color which includes the white color too!\

    April 7, 2011 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
    • patrick

      I like what you said.. thanks : D

      April 7, 2011 at 12:49 am | Report abuse |
  7. Chris

    Not that it really matters, but I'm just curious – are they saying whites will be the minority or just not the majority? Because a group can still be less than 50% of the population, but be a plurality. If they're grouping every other ethnic group together, then they're sort of misrepresenting the fact that whites would still be the largest group.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      I keep saying the same thing. Can every race be a minority?

      April 7, 2011 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Eder Castillo

      All they're saying is that whites will represent less than 50% around 2042, which doesn't mean they'll be a minority, but will still make significant differences in this nation's history.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott from NH

      yes, by CNN's definition of minority, every race will be a minority, however, there will still be more whites than other groups, except in Hawaii and a handful of towns. I could see 10 years from now a town being 25% white, 25% african american, 25% hispanic and 25% asian. singapore, toronto and sydney are kind of like that, and those are three of the nicest places i've been.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
    • lol

      Can you say apartheid? about time too before this county is ruined. Can’t even work out a budget.

      April 7, 2011 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Rex Remes

      The problem is not that whites will no longer be a majority. The problem is too many people. And the growth in population is mostly in the poor/undereducated demographics (regardless of race).

      April 7, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Epidi

      If you look at the bigger picture, worldwide, caucasians are a minority. There are more people of color (all colors) than whites. So what? If every flower looked the same, how boring the world would be!

      April 8, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • ITAnalyst

      When I was in college one of my professors told us that African Americans as a population would decline as we intermingled with other races and that we were roughly 20% of the population. He said eventually we would be like the native americans in the sense that everyone will have a little in them. At the time I thought he was just stating his opinion and became angry believing him to be racist. We are now 12.6% we have been as low as 9% (1930) .. so In short he was right about Blacks and going forward alot of us are choosing not to have as many kids, I figure our numbers will drop. But it's ok. Thats just the way populations work. Minority means (small in number) and if divided up by race and nationality there are still waaaaay more white than anything else but I don't think thats a bad thing. God bless Big Al he was a great teacher.

      April 11, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heidi

      Great point Chris!

      April 14, 2011 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elm Sonbig

      WHITES ARE THE MINORITY RACE ON PLANET EARTH, and we have been told for the last fifty years we must accept becoming minorities in everyone of our own countries as well, lest we be called a naziwhowanttokillsixmillionsjews.

      Why is the ongoing genocide of white children discussed so casually? Why is not the displacement, dispossession and assimilation of white children taken as a more serious subject for discussion? It seems the media are always talking about the continuing decline of white children in their own countries and every one seems ok with it?

      White children are only two percent of the world population. Diversity is a codeword for genocide of white children.

      Anti-racism is a codeword for anti-white.

      April 16, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
  8. DJ

    What I'd like to know..What's the breakdown of those born in to poverty? If they can afford it....rock on...otherwise, my taxes are going up...

    April 7, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Lea

      Amen! I live in Dallas, my kids can't get squat in way of financial aid, but the children of our explosive illegal population get....citizenship, free medical, free lunch, free university, free rent, and the rent goes on. While my taxes go up! Whether anyone wants to say or not these anchor babies are killing those of us who actually work.

      April 7, 2011 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Hal

      Free university? Are you crazy or just ignorant? If you really knew the college process, you'd know that any non-citizen who attends college, unless they're getting a private scholarship, is ineligible for federal grants, and federal grants are how I, a white guy, paid for college. You obviously didn't even try to get your kids into college. You'd have had to have had kids with the dedication and hard work to get there themselves, just like everybody else. College is for ambitious people, legal or not. Period. Everyone else will just flunk out anyway and potentially waste the government's investment in financial aid (like your lazy kids would).

      April 7, 2011 at 1:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Eder Castillo

      Hal couldn't have put it better. They receive extremely expensive tuition and are often abused (economically) by landlords and their employers. Ambition is key.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Krissy

      Lea is right. I am white and I tried to apply for financial aid and I got turned down twice! I even met all of the requirements! I can't even go to a trade school because they are filled with illeagals! Nobody speaks English!

      April 7, 2011 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott from NH

      The number of kids living in poverty is going to skyrocket, but not because of ethnicity, because we have a jobless recovery, an ever increasing disparity between rich and poor, a declining middle class, and we will soon have no other option than to cut the heart out of what little safety net we have left. Also, we will soon be forced to slash most of our military and that will create additional unemployment. The Republicans and Democrats aren't telling you how bad the budget crisis really is. We spend close to 40% more than we take in and the only way to fix it is massive cuts that will deeply hurt our elderly, poor and disabled, incredibly massive cuts to the military and very large tax increases.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:39 am | Report abuse |
    • fearlessdude

      Kids are made by untrained labor – no education is required. But the ruling class is doing its best to deny education to the masses hastening the process.

      April 7, 2011 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Jack

      There are more whites living at or above the poverty level than any other race.

      April 7, 2011 at 4:06 am | Report abuse |
    • vence

      Too much hate man! Hispanics, whites,Asians, and blacks have the same struggles is just that we don't see eye to eye.

      April 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Noemi Hernandez

      Lea and Krissy are ignorant as hell!!! Like Hal mentioned no illegal person can be granted financial aid or a grant from the GOV of the USA!! Unless they are here legally they will have to pay for thier own college tution just like everyone else... if they are even allowed to enter college!! Plus Krissy just because people speak Spanish and not English doesn't mean they are in the USA illegally. Get educated girl. Although these immigrants do recieve a lot of help from the Gov, if they get any at all, isn't this land made up of immigrants?! Isn't the "American Dream" to move to a place where you can make something of yourself? I am tired of ppl thinking that America is soooo great... frankly its not that great honey. That's why I don't get why come here in the first place, but then again here they can be more "free" yeah right not with ppl with the kind of brain you and Lea racistly share. LMFAO!!!

      April 11, 2011 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Katja

      I know that here in Texas, children of illegal immigrants pay in-state tuition, which I find greatly annoying. Most of the grants and scholarships are geared toward those of Hispanic backgrounds. Most of the grant/scholarship list of the Uni I graduated from were geared towards Hispanics but there were a few that were geared towards non-Hispanics.

      April 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Havildar

      Lea get back to work Children of LEGAL immigrants are US Citizens. Burn your KKK robes and smell the Coffee.

      April 12, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      no one can speak English including you Krissy. Its spelled illegals. No wonder you didnt go to college, but keep on blaming the "ileagles" as you so eloquently put it.

      April 14, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • High School Teacher

      Sorry Ian, but if you are going to criticize someone for their english speaking abilities, you might want to be able to correctly use it yourself. The word english is only capitalized when you are speaking of people coming from England, the english language is not capitalized. Nice try though...

      April 14, 2011 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Tim

    If anyone doesn't see this as a problem then they need to. Forget the race aspect of it, the reason why certain people (lets call them white to make things easier) are not having that many kids is because kids are expensive. If you wanna provide your children with a quality life and education, 2 kids is just about right for the average middle class family. If culturally (an we won't name names here) you don't care about education, a good diet and giving your kids a quality life, then I see why you have no problem run through by 10 different day laborers each week and popping out 30 kids. From a cultural stand point, yeah the Mexican don't want to mix in with Americans. That's obvious but oh well. People can do what they want and if they want to hang on to their culture once they are here that is perfectly fine. But when you have a ton of kids and you don't take care of them (and how can you if you have 8 each) you are affecting more than yourself. Crime goes up, national debt goes up, taxes for those paying them goes up, public education goes down, etc. A lot of people like to talk about how our economy needs all the illegal immigration and more kids because we need more people to pick fruits and veggies and build homes cheap to keep the cost for the rest of us down. I don't know about you, but I'd pay twice as much for an orange so that I could send my kids to public school.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:25 am | Report abuse |
    • David

      Amen Brother!

      April 7, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Lisa Mitchell

      Well said~

      April 7, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
    • km

      you may be correct in some aspects but are forgeting one important thing if in fact the majority of those mothers are 1st generation immigrants then the education food and health care their kids are getting is vastly improved in comparison to what those same children would get from the countries those mothers came from. they are having so many kids because the quality of life their kids are able to get plus the "american dream" open to them. those mothers are having so many children because compared to where they came from they are prospering here.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Krissy


      April 7, 2011 at 1:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Emily

      I'd even pay three times the cost of an orange for that. Where I live, illegal aliens only pay in-state tuition for college but my nephews, who are U.S. citizens from a different state, have to pay out-of-state tuition to go to college here. I'm sick of paying for them to get everything we've worked for.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott from NH

      Wow, what an incredible load of racist crap. Singapore has very few white people and they have a higher per capita income and higher standard of living than us. Qatar is wealthier than us and is filled with brown Muslims. Brunei is also wealthier than us with a bunch of brown skinned Muslims. Moldova, one of the poorest nations in the world is filled with blond haired white people.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:48 am | Report abuse |
    • fearlessdude

      Whites are practicing birth control but denying birth control education to the poor. Maybe the plan is to put those people into the armed forces and send them to war?

      April 7, 2011 at 2:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Mad Cow

      I don't care what race, color or religion a person is. I have seen cases of abuse from all walks of people.
      My plan –
      1. Make tubal ligation mandatory before giving out government aid. No exceptions. Give the father a $200 check for getting a vasectomy.
      2. Give two child tax deductions per year only. Those with large families will be required to pay school taxes to offset the increased cost of their family to society. No vouchers. No socialism for the mass breeders of poverty and religion.

      April 7, 2011 at 2:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Joel

      I know a white custodian... soon we will start celebrating white history month, and you will cry about it.

      April 7, 2011 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • lol

      Ummm about that white history month…maybe you should avoid that.

      April 7, 2011 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
    • Christina

      I pay over 5000 dollars a year for my kids to go to private school, because the public schools are so horrid here. I would glady pay, like Tim said, 5.00 for an orange, if I didn't have to spend so much money for my kids to get a quality education. I know 5000 dollars a year doesn't sound like much to some people, but that is just tuition it does not include lunches, school uniforms, and anything else they might need.

      April 7, 2011 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marv

      Just out of curiosity, I wonder what would happen to our national crime rate if we were to ship out every hispanic and black person indiscriminately to another place (like Greenland for instance).

      April 8, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Benny

      "Marv-Just out of curiosity, I wonder what would happen to our national crime rate if we were to ship out every hispanic and black person indiscriminately to another place (like Greenland for instance)."... Might be a bit extreem.

      I think we would all settle for "ship(ping) out every illegal to another place (like wherever they came from). I'd happily pay $5.00 per orange for that. Hell. I'd donate for it.

      April 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • ITAnalyst

      When I was in college one of my professor told us that African Americans as a population would decline as we intermingled with other races and that we were roughly 20% of the population. He said eventually we would be like the native americans in the sense that everyone will have a little in them. At the time I thought he was just stating his opinion and became angry believing him to be racist. We are now 12.6% we have been as low as 9% (1930) .. so In short he was right about Blacks and going forward alot of us are choosing not to have as many kids, I figure our numbers will drop. But it's ok. Thats just the way populations work. Minority means (small in number) and if divided up by race and nationality there are still waaaaay more white than anything else but I don't think thats a bad thing. God bless Big Al he was a great teacher.

      April 11, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Janice

      AMEN!!! However,we want to be careful and not move towards the way s of hina where they legally limit the number of children you can have. I truly don't care what color your skin is, where you were born. This is the USA, English needs to be our legal language. If you CHOOSE to immigrate here, learn the language, come in legally and PAY your way in life just like the rest of us. That means if you are going to parktake in any government benefits, you need to be paying your share of the taxes. Now, lets address the lazy US citizens sitting on welfare and sucking my tax dollars. We need to have a limit on the numerb of children welfare pays for. When a high school student aspires to "have babies and go on welfare like my momma" we have a problem. We have created a generation of lazy degenerates! They think they are too good to pick fruit. Malarky, get off your butts and get to work. If welfare recipients were reuired to pass a drug test to receive their benefits, I wonder how much moeny we would save in just the first 6 months!

      April 12, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
  10. patrick

    As a Latina, I agree with Nelson. Whites are constantly putting other races down. Look at the way they treated African-Americans. They continue to discriminate openly against them. Whites killed off Native Americans. Remember, part of America belonged to Mexico. But white Americans stole it from us. Personally, I think things will calm down and improve if whites are no longer the majority. Tead your history. They have caused everything from world wars to global warming.
    Remember, the biggest racist was Adolf Hitler. He was 100% white.

    i am not sure how old you are , but hopefuly you are old enogh to think for yourself . The color of someones skin, does not make it so simple that all people who look like them think the same. Evil people have been on this earth since the begining of time. You seem too stereotype based on personal experiences maybe you had. thats being ignorant. What if I said based my watching TV and what I see looking out my window that every mexican I see is Illegal and should be jailed? these things in history where done by white skin people , true but are you trying to say if mexicans or blacks were the majority nothing like this or anything bad would of never happened? come on wake up , you do dont have to go through your life , poisened with thoughts that all white people are evil . not true. racism is a strong word and like welfare holds back generations of people and is being used in schools , tv, news and movies to keep people from all races separated from each other. I am white and my wife is hispanic born here in america. My son is now half and half , should I be like you and teach him to hate people of different color skin and race or tell him he should hate his irish ansestry? people should be judged by their character not the color of their skin. Is this article right here not discriminating against whites openly? It is evil what is being done in this world to the minds of people like yourself. Give respect and get respect is the only thing left for civilization.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Eric

      Umm sounds like you are racist yourself there ya big bigot. Grouping all whites into your projection of our culture.... tisk tisk you should know better. In all honesty though as has been said time and time again we will still be the majority for a long time. This article is misleading as it groups all other races into one group which isn't really an accurate portrayal.

      As an aside in my experience, working in the ghetto, non-whites have far more children they can't afford which is just wrong in so many ways. Frankly most of them do it for stamps and welfare and couldn't give a damn about the kids from what I can tell. Then when the kid grows up they are indoctrinated into thinking the man kept them down when in fact their parents poor choices and lack of drive held their child down at least in part. Also as another black culture needs to get their act together and stop the one mother families that keep the cycle going.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:08 am | Report abuse |
    • rkt210

      Mexico is being run exclusively by Mexicans. Is Mexico your idea of how things will "calm down and improve"? No thanks.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Ladita

      "The color of someones skin, does not make it so simple that all people who look like them think the same." AND this next quote by the same person "Whites are constantly putting other races down. Look at the way they treated African-Americans. Remember, the biggest racist was Adolf Hitler. He was 100% white." REALLY?! You are seriously not helping your fellow Hispanics by writing stupid things. Word of advice, don't announce you are a Latina. You are dumb and not bc of your race, because YOU are.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Medellino

      Umbra you clearly have no idea of what you are talking about, see that is a problem, people who are lazy and decided not to educate themselves but spew ignorant hate. Ok, I will give you a hand- google latino medal of honor winners (I know its tough for you), and you will find a list of latinos dating back to the civil war that received the medal of honor (one of the greatest honors this country can bestow), then do some research and google latinos in science, etc. In your ignorance and in your own little world I bet you did not even try. The biggest problem this country has are ignorant buffoons like you.

      April 7, 2011 at 5:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Danny_Boy

      It was the hispanics that almost wiped out the North American natives...

      April 7, 2011 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
    • toxictown

      Um...no, that would be the Spanish – from Spain. Hispanic refers to the mixed race offspring of the invaders, their slaves and the conquered natives localized in Central & So. America and the Carribean.

      April 7, 2011 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Bookworm

      Ok it seems as if history has taken a backseat in this forum. Let's review;

      1. Whites enslaved blacks – yes. Who sold/traded the blacks to the whites? Answer: blacks
      2. America's borders encompass Mexican land – yes. Stolen? no. Won through war against an inferior opponent.
      3. Whites stole land from Native Americans – no. It was won through war against an inferior opponent... then some of it was given back because we felt so bad.
      4. There are immigration laws in the U.S.? yes. Do illegals adhere to them? no. Are they criminals? yes
      5. Do people take advantage of welfare, social security, and other freebies? yes... all colors and races.
      6. Do people work hard to provide for their families without aid? yes... all colors and races.

      So what have we learned today? We've learned that it doesn't matter what color or race you are. All that matters is that you work hard, take care of yourself and your family without assistance, and fight for the betterment of your country and stay out of legal trouble.

      For those that cannot do this... please leave.

      For those that do... thank you for being a true American.

      Now... let's all quit posting comments and GET TO WORK!

      April 8, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • thinkitthrough

      @ Bookworm if i used your reasoning that slavery was ok b/c blacks sold other blacks to white... then i suppose that if someone sold me drugs then they are in the wrong while i am innocent. i am sure a lot of people in jail would like to use this a defense.

      April 13, 2011 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
    • srdool

      Your drug use and penilty has nothing to do with what BOOKWORM had stated.

      April 15, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • srdool

      I agree.

      April 15, 2011 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Dolly O.

    As I sit here reading all 228 comments it saddened me to see the segragation among our Human Race. Why would such a headline enrage so many? I gather behind the scene is a wonderful Human Being. I stand with all of YOU. ¶ I AGREE THERE IS A PROBLEM...but must "WE" destroy each other in this arena? I can only imagine other counties reading this posts..some perhaps wondering if they should westernise, others laughiing..& saying .."We don't have to destroy them..they're doing it themselves" ¶As a nation "WE AS A PEOPLE" should UNITE as ONE & take it to the pole if need be..That's what Democracy is about. ¶ As United States American Citizens & than some Non Citizen whom loved this county FOUGHT TOGATHER IN WARS & HELD YOUR BROTHER'S/SISTER'S HAND WHILE IN WAR..NOT CARING OF RACE? ¶ WE must think before we speak. Take care & God Bless The HUMAN RACE.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
    • g

      Seems like someone is angry at the GOV't. Whites Built America and have will also be the ones that ultimately destroy it on it's own. Whites have done a lot for the world but take 2 steps back every step forward. For example, industrialization great for American economy until greedy CEO's etc. wanted to ship jobs overseas and lower wages in turn for higher profits. Europeans and American's constantly involving themselves in other countries affairs to assimilate countries. You mention Africa, yes it is not like America, but Euros and Americans have had their hand in settling in those lands and forcefully assimilating the natives. You want to blame minorities for everything but you seem to forget minorities don't make the rules, heck the majority don't either just a certain handful of powerful people. Those powerful people are the reason you are complaining about america being destroyed for they do not care about you me, or the country, just their pocketbooks.

      April 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • longtime reader

      Believe it or not, people look down and discriminate in other countries, too. This is not something you will only find here in the United States. I'm sure anyone reading from England or Germany can relate. I know this firsthand. Like most have said, this is a socio-economic problem that drives our racial disharmony. If everyone did their best and restrained theirselves, waited until they were married to have children or at least financially stable, I'm sure we could all get past which group was bringing the whole country down. So, don't worry too much about how the world sees us, or how this sounds. It's good we all have a place to discuss. I don't understand why in this day and age, birth control is not used, and the Catholic Church does allow it now... so that's no longer an excuse. I also agree there are people of all colors, like another poster stated, growing up and simply cranking 1 or 2 out to get on public assistance, AND applying for Pell grants, enrolling in an online school, and using the grant money for whatever... not paying the school. (This is a white girl I know of, in particular, and for what it matters, I am white, too.) It makes me sick, no matter what the color. It'd just be nice if we could all do our best, and become prosperous again, and that would be more likely if the ultra-rich weren't so greedy – but that's a whole 'nother story.

      April 14, 2011 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
  12. NPhxAz

    Maybe it is time for America to lay down and let these hard working Latins pay for OUR welfare.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Medellino

      They are, that is what most people dont get. When they work with someones elses SS number they contribute to the pool, but will not be able to draw from it.

      April 7, 2011 at 5:34 am | Report abuse |
  13. hendeeze

    who cares, we are (well most of us anyways) all Americans.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      I care. If I broke into your house and took your food, your medicines, your textbooks, your money, your clothes and your job, demanded that you only speak my language in your home, then called you lazy and worthless, I would still not be a member of your family. People who sneak in or overstay their visas here, take everything they can get from us and then demand even more, are not Americans.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott from NH

      Take everything they can get from us???? You are talking about people who do come here illegally, and then work for low wages with no benefits in the only first world nation without national health. If they get a brain tumor or cancer they aren't going to get free medical care, they are going to die. Almost all of them use fake green cards paying billions into social security they will never collect on. They take care of our grandmothers, and keep our farms and factories running. Malaysia kicked out all their illegals a few years ago and within months their economy nearly ground to a halt and they had to beg to get them back. If we threw out all our illegals every farm would close, every John Deere dealer would close, all the banks, apartments, restaurants in places like the San Joaquin valley would close, our produce would all come from Chile, we would have tens of thousands of bankrupt landlords, and most of our factories would go away.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Rv41

      Exactly, Scott. That is the mess we got ourselves into. White people used to (and still) do ALL those jobs. If we did kick out all the illegals, (not happening, but theoretically if we did) there would be a period of contraction, but we would recover.

      April 7, 2011 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
    • toxictown

      Listen to Scott – he knows what he is talking about.

      April 7, 2011 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • lftryagain

      Scott of NH guess that is New Hampshire? Unless you live in a border town/state you really can't understand the economical impact of illegal immigrants. First, they don't ONLY do jobs like farming. They have taken over many construction jobs that were once "Skilled" labor jobs that many Americans did. Secondly, the presence and availability of cheap labor, although illegal, keeps the wages depressed in these areas. In the Yankee states you might scoff at working for minimum wage, where in many areas like El Paso, you are lucky to get a job that pays minimum wage. You also talk about no insurance, well, guess what, in Texas there are many areas where you don't get insurance, you don't get paid sick days, and no vacation and it AFFECTS the Americans who live in these areas. Whether the Americans are Mexican Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, etc. Only difference is, the Latinos are always hired first because they speak Spanish. Even if they can't read and write English.

      April 8, 2011 at 10:43 am | Report abuse |
  14. stu-y

    Wow, you're a dick, eh?

    April 7, 2011 at 12:49 am | Report abuse |
  15. h3m1z0rz

    Just imagine a country run by fleeing mexicans in such a large number.. Most have no education and don't understand a government and what it's purpose is. Of course they will have kids in large numbers and live in poverty or a criminal life to get by. Our government can't stop it or doesn't care because they would have done something by now. I am not a racist by any means but you have to draw the line somewhere. Take a look at all the drug cartels, look at all the mexican gangs in LA. Do you honestly think that it won't eventually happen in your own town eventually? Where you going to move to?
    White people (not all but most) will not have kids unless they are financially strapped to do it. I myself am almost 30yrs old and am scared to have a baby if I MYSELF can't take care of it LEGALLY on my own! I do not depend on the government to back me up and rely on them. It's bull that our government gives like over 1k dollars a month to women that have kids... just think if you had 7. Nice little paycheck each month now isn't it. Lets go buy a mercedes and let our kids run around in the streets and grow up to be criminals.
    I can't even beleive that the human mind is so vunerable to be so dumb and beleive everything the government says. I pray for you guys. Tell you the truth, I don't even want to have kids to live in this declining country, I don't want them to see what this country comes to.

    April 7, 2011 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
    • MostlyAmused

      Except no one gets paid to have seven kids and what is paid out is NOT $1000/kid. It is about half that and only covers two kids. It is also only paid for four years. After that, maybe food stamps and subsidized housing... But no check.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
    • helloignorance

      The ignorance of your comment astounds me that I have to reply. I am a HISPANIC girl who is graduating from UT-Austin and going to law school soon. Stereotyping a whole race won't do anyone any good. People like you are just making the rest of the world think that we, Americans, are horrible and racist human beings.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      @helloignorance, you define yourself as Hispanic while accepting our education and the other benefits of our country, then you dare to call us racist? Hispanic isn't a race; it's a culture. If you don't like our culture, go home. If you are here illegally, go home anyway.

      April 7, 2011 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Medellino

      Joe – our culture is a mix of cultures, and that is what benefits this nation, the intermingling of culture, the freedom of expression and how you want to be seen. If you dont like that maybe you should live in Iran or North Korea, where the government limits who and how someone can express themselves. The reality is this country is already the 2nd largest spanish speaking country in the world, and latin culture is already intertwined and will become more so. If you don't like the ride then get out of the car. You might be happier living in Iran, North Korea or Libya where people are used to having governments tell them what to do and they can kill others who they feel are different.

      April 7, 2011 at 5:38 am | Report abuse |
    • Joel

      Not that it makes much of a difference at this point but there are plenty of whites living off the government and popping out kids they can't take care of. See it in walmart all the time...

      April 7, 2011 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
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