The list of collateral effects of a potential government shutdown keeps growing and people are none too pleased about it. Here are just a few of the negative impacts that could arise if Congress and the White House fail to reach an agreement on the budget (click here to view in chart form):
- The lawmakers who hold the cards will still get paid. Their staffers might be furloughed, though. That has prompted a few lawmakers to announce they'll refuse shutdown pay,but even that has elicited critiques of political posturing.
- Roughly 800,000 federal workers won't get paid because they're considered nonessential and therefore, the first to be furloughed. That includes people who work in national parks because they'll be closed, ruining countless long family road trips. And it's not just the loss of income that hurts - for many, it's being labeled dispensable when they know their jobs are anything but nonessential.
- As the shutdown looms, some political leaders are taking the opportunity to fundraise and rally their supporters. The executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out an appeal asking for a minimum $5 donation saying the organization wants to raise $100,000 in the next 36 hours.
- You'll still get your Social Security checks but don't expect anyone to be around to answer your questions about benefits. The people who take questions on Social Security and Medicare questions will not be at work and most government websites will shut down or have limited functionality.
- Various agencies with the Department of Health and Human Services will operate in a patchwork fashion. The National Institutes of Health will not accept new patients or start new clinical trials. The Food and Drug Administration won't operate at full capacity but will have some inspectors on staff. As a result, all FDA inspections of food processing facilities and drug manufacturing plants will be prioritized by risk.
- Word is getting around that a government shutdown doesn't actually save taxpayers money. For one, it will cost the government money to ensure a smooth transition to a shutdown. Then there's the lost revenue from a variety of sources, from government services to gift shops in government-run attractions such as Yosemite National Park and DC's National Gallery of Art.
How would a government shutdown anger you?
You heard it here first folks. The tea-party is in favor of a shut-down, which will lead to direct hardship for military families as well as countless others. Thanks for doing the job of showing independent-minded people what you're all really about.
You mean when republican said 100 billion in cuts and dems said 10 billion and then republicans said no 100 billion and dems said ok 30 and then republicans said no 100 billion and dems said ok 70 billion and then republicans said no 100 billion? Now that's compromise!
I am a small business, gonna lose income, can't clean an empty federal building. Stupid.
Parks, cherry blossom festival???... How about CNN focuses on the how this shutdown will affect military families?....
I"m willing to put my life in harms way, for the freedom we're protecting. The idea that we won't get paid on time while Congress continues to get paid as usual goes to show where both parties priorities are. As the military wife on the CNN homepage so eloquently said, "go to your room and don't come out until your work is done!" Thank you Senator Hutchinson for supporting our troops!
If the government doesn't have a budget, then why should anyone pay taxes. wouldn't that be much easier to say we won't pay you anything until you tell us where the money is going. this way no one gets paid, see how long all debate goes on this lasts. if the budget doesn't pass then they shouldn't fund anything.
The politians. should NOW be no longer paid and thir benifits revoked
Ask the Republicans, who voted against the 2010 budget. No they are playing dumb on this. But the stopped the budget last year and blaming the democrats. Just the continuing mis information they give out.
The Government is running on a CR which means they're operating on last years budget. But that runs out in 24 hours and 3 minutes.
Rich,
What are you talking about? You mean to say that in 2010 the Democrat majority House, majority Senate and Democrat Executive branch couldn't pass a budget even though the exact same groups managed to somehow pass a healthcare bill Republicans didn't vote for? Democrats announced as early as June of 2010 that they wouldn't pass a budget in 2010 because they wanted to wait for the "bipartisan commission’s deficit-reduction plan" which Obama commissioned but completely ignored when it was released!
The Republicans are the ones attempting to SAVE the country from financial ruin. The Dems would rather put the military members in a horrible spot than give up their PET PROGRAMS.
Consider the effect of not paying the electric bill for NORAD. Is this really what you want?
RICH... didnt the Democrats have the majority in both house and senate last year? I haventt payed attention since Obama was elected as I expect a disaster every time a Democrat is elected. As for THIS budget, all the Democratic Party hacks have to do is stop obstructing the passage of a responsible budget. But ohhhhh noooo, they have to keep proposing one that does nothing constructive and voting no to any meaningful proposal.
How dumb are you? Off the scale. Can you see beyond your little finger? do you care about how many lives would be disrupted, because of the way our government has become entwined in the lives of almost all citizens? elderly people would die in numbers that would make the deaths from Quadaffi's orders to murder protesters look like chump change. Grow up and read a book or two. This is not a video game. Life and civilization today are complicated. There are no 50 cent solutions to anything. Grow up and learn something. Read some early American history. Join the military. Get some sense of how our country works and what kind of chaos and ruin would be caused by your incredibly stupid idea. I'm 77 years old and this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard
Wow this has got me laughing right now. Responsible budget? Save us from financial ruin? Not a single Republican budget proposal has done any of that. Instead we get ill conceived and often absurd budgets and statements to go with it. Fixing the federal budget is not hard nor painful and shockingly requires none of these cuts to services and programs nor massive tax increases. Ive been over the figures and agency's a number of times myself we could be running every program we have in place now and have a budget surplus even counting a debt repayment plan being implemented. And yet the so called party of fiscal responsibility and budgets can't do it?
Make no mistake I don't hold the democrats high in this respect either but to declare that the Republicans are trying to create responsible budgets? That is by far the greatest joke Ive heard in years.
I work in a National Park. So I'll be out of work!!
WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!!!!!
I agree
I agree! It just might come to that...
I agree, our enemy is the Republican party, they are out to destroy the middle class and this country. We will lose the battle from within this nation if people don't push back. It is critical to saving our country.
I think it would be more like a civil war.
It's time for the DEMS & REPUBS to go, we need new leadership that actually speaks for the people!!!!
RICH YOU ARE A RETARD. It is the DEMS who refuse to fund the Military families because it is kicking a can down the road. WHAT UTTER NONSENSE.
Agreed straighten this country out
These are the exact issues that with the website HelpMeMrPresident.com. It for all of us to get our thoughts and ideas stated and get debates ad come up with solutions of the peoples collective voice to take to congress or the house or whoever has the power of decisions. The time is right for the people to come together. http://www.helpmemrpresident.com has the forum to do that. LETS MAKE CHANGES
We need education...not a revolution.
Rich says "the republican party wants to destroy the middle class"...likely by robbing us to give to the wealthy. I say the democrats want to destroy the middle class by robbing us to give to the poor. While we in the middle class argue over which side is destroying us more the destruction continues, unhindered and unchallenged.
Amazingly, Rich and FrustratedAmerican are right at the same time. Both of these parties create a lose-lose situation for us, the regular Americans. If you don't have the bullocks to start dragging Congress people out into the streets and letting the heads roll, you could at least vote for somebody who isn't affiliated with either party (keep in mind that the T-tards are GOP 2.1). Besides those three, it doesn't matter who you vote for, because they couldn't possibly make things any worse.
The revolution has already started ... much to the dismay of big unions and democrats.
Dennis
I believe that President Clinton gave President Bush, by-the-way a Republican, a great amount of surplus. Where was that surplus at the end of his first term. Do you know where it went
Agreed, we needa revolution, Our enemy is Government period, fire them all, build a wall around D.C. and leave them there. If they were anything but the cowards, liars and thieves that ALL of them are, demopubs and repubocrats alike, they would ALL forgo a paycheck until every last American has a job and can pay their bills.
As a gov employee, I am able to read and write.(Not right)I will not get paid for this free lesson or anything else but... You're means you are where as your signifies possession. The illiteracy of these comments is truly frightening.
Yeah!! And what makes it more scarey is they pay your salary.
Whereas is one word. Just sayin'.
Three cheers for literacy!
loser. you probably wrote that post while on the clock. government workers...
Not only can you read and write U kan tipe two.
That should be "are" truly frightening. So much for literacy.
Penny, Phoebe is right when she says "the illiteracy of these comments is truly frightening." "Is" is correct for this sentence since she is talking about illiteracy (singular) and not comments (plural). Using "are" would be correct is Phoebe said "these comments are frightening" since she is talking about "comments," which are plural. To all of you, if you want to get off the topic and start picking on grammar usage, get it right before you criticize. Otherwise, keep to the thread.
Closing national parks is a crime against the nation. Anybody who wants to do it are enemies of the people.
We'll see how easy it is to keep them open in 10 years...along with Social Security, healthcare, roads...when our government is bankrupt. It's hard to pay anyone, ever, when you're out of money.
Give me a break – of all the things listed (and 80% of them are minor) – shutting down the parks is nothing – who really cares? We have this nation tettering on the brink of a financial abyss by non-stop spending and you are worrked about access to the parks? If it affects the park employees -then that is sad and I am sorry for them – but big big things are at stake in this budget fight – and we MUST stop the spending spree of our tax dollars.
All they are was thing to provide jobs during the depression so it doesn't matter if they shut them down but it still provides jobs for a number of americans so it would be bad to shut them down otherwise we really don't need them
@Dean
Had the national park system not been developed, the wealthy (not you) would never have had access to those areas. Is that what you want the US to become? A place where only the wealthy get stuff...ALL the stuff?
You should read more.
I know what u mean and no the wealthy shouldn't get everything
If you have read up on the full impact. The cost to shut them down is extremely excessive. Also the usage fees and gift shop fees fund nearly 32 MILLION dollars per day toward running the economy. I am pretty sure we are not spending 32 MILLION dollars per day to keep the national parks running. Just sayin'
I'm going into Rocky Mountain, been planning a snowshoe hike there for a few weeks. I was planning on hiking 20 miles anyways so what is another 3 to the trailhead from outside the bounderies. The only way they will be able to catch me is if the rangers decide they want to hike 10 miles after me to give me a little ticket....horses and snowmobiles are not allowed on the trails so they had better be ready for some hiking. I just assume it will be a beatiful day without any tourists, doesn't get any better than that.
@Ted-calm down! You'll burst something. @TonyB-amen!
A government shutdown would not have much to do with me but I'm sure other retirees probably would feel a pinch. The government always has threatened shutdowns over the past 20 years and so far they vot e a stop gap to see to it that business is as usual. It would sho9ck me if it is shut down. Who would cook for the Obama's if that happens?
i made 102 k last year. i worked everyday of the year except 15 days and put in 186 (4 hour) overtimes. All this to get out of debt and have a new life. Oh ya when tax time came i had paid 39000 to taxes and got 1800 back 100k is not rich and if you dont own a house or have kids you get taxed to death. 100k working a bunch of 16 hour days on a 7 day a week work schedule isn't easy. Any one can make 100k if they spend all there time working. Stop complaining about being broke and go out and do something about it.
16 hours a day 7 days a week... Try living man... Must not have a girl or really hate your family... Sorry you're a slave man! Here's to a 40 hr work week!
According to the IRS website, you should owe $22,177 for a single with no dependents. Maybe you need a new accountant.
You're right about the taxes but I'd still rather make $102K/year then $30K.
Amen. That's the truth.
Strange, I happen to be an essential Guberment worker, filing as a D.I.N.K, with 116k income I paid about 21k between state and fed. Not sure where your math went awry
Suck it phoebe quit workin for the man
shut up everyone! im IN the military on active duty and because of congress i may not get paid! i have debt to pay on every 1st and 15th and because of this i will not be able to pay any of my bills. i put my life on the line every day working a dangerouse job and i get paid less than $25,000 a year as it is! congress members only care about padding their pocket, not about the country, its citizens, or the military that protects it. where is the secretary of treasury?!?! i have to report to duty with no pay, fall behind on bills, and have my credit ruined because some big wig in congress cant come to an aggreement yet they still get paid. if you want to do something dont let any people in congress get re-elected and cut their pay! they get a pay raise and we dont get paid.
Zachary all I want to say to you is Thank You!! Thank you for serving!!! Even though this country is going to hell in a hand basket, I am thankful for men and woman like you that put on the uniform and defend this country. Be safe and God bless.
Dude u chose to be in the military, deal with it...
Hang in there. They will do something. Maybe the CC company's will be kind for once and not charge a late fee. Oh this could be a way for the BIG BANKS to earn some extra money. Sarcasm but knowing who runs this country maybe not.
And being in the military isn't "defending". They are pawns playing offense or else they would be on our soil.
Isn't protecting your contry reward enough? You want them to pay you too? What a hypocrite.
Being in the military, you are trained with weapons right? I say show all levels of govt first hand what your training has taught you!!!
Tyler ~ You are ignorant and just one of the many idiots in this country that our men and women in uniform has chosen to serve and protect. Yes...it was their choice to join the military. What have you done with your life? What have you done for the good of our fellow Americans? You're worthless...yet, they choose to put their lives on the line for you and make numerous other sacrifices every day...for you. And do you know what happens when we don't "play offense"? Terrorists fly planes into buildings and kill thousands of Americans.
Thanks for your service
To Tyler u can go to Hell... I'm also a soldier and I joined to provide for my family. I leave for afganistan in less than 45 days and I'm spoke to take leave to go see my family in a week and a half. Without gettin paid I won't be able to do that... unless you are going through this you don't know how hard it is to know that because of some people that sit behind a desk all-day can't make their minds up you can't go see your family before you go to a country that is killing Americans everyday. Yea in America we have violence but you don't see anyone getting blown up!!! And its very ignorant for anyone to say you joined the army it was your choice, well hey I love my country to death but I have a wife and 2 kids to support so I ain't join this for free... nobody said this would happen
Thank you for protecting our civil liberties and "plush lifestyle", BUT YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB. You made your cot, now grab your sheet and lay in it!
In regard to comment about people signing up for the military "not expecting this"(referencing the war) to happen...are you kidding me? It's the military that's like me becoming a teacher and expecting never to see a classroom!
This is going to affect about 1% of Americans. CNN is working hard to panic America but trust me, we won't all die if the government shuts down. You'll still be able to go to the doctor if you're on Medicare. You'll still get your Social Security check. Even the federal employees getting furloughed will get their back pay, just like they did in 1995. This is no big deal.
And you budget is going to affect .0009 percent of the deficit...
I will be one of them, and it's millions of people, so I'm not sure where you're getting your information.
I guess i'm 1% then. I'm in the processing of closong on my first home with an FHA loan. Closing was supposed to be on May 5th. It's a big deal.
It will affect everyone due to the negative impact on economy. Oh yes...no big deal..i'm just the 1% affected people – possibly. As a contractor I have no idea if the department of defense is actually going to pay me for my work! Wait...no big deal...it's ok to lose house or health insurance as long as it does not affect you. You have to realize that 1% of people is hundreds of thousands of people. Try telling your "no big deal" to them!
federal workers will NOT get their back pay.
Really? No big deal? Perhaps you would like it if your paycheck doesn't come on time, your bills don't get paid, your credit gets damaged because of it, and the very real possibility that your family gets evicted because they had to make a choice of paying for food, or paying their rent and other bills?
Our Men and Women in the Military will be putting their lives on the line, while not being paid on time. Their families will be suffering accordingly. I am sorry, but, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for our elected officials being unable to pass a budget other than political posturing and religious ideology that has NO PLACE IN GOVERNMENT.
It is a big deal. My husband is military and I am a federal contractor. This could create more a disaster than you realize, obviously.
Yes it is a big deal. I am a federal worker with a child to take care of and a mortgage to pay. Speak for yourself. Maybe you aren't affected but me and many others are. It is not a guarantee that we will get paid......it's up to congress to decide if non essential workers will get back pay.
I work in the mtg business & if you have a mortgage & you are active military or even have someone living in your home who's active military you wont get foreclosed on. At least that's the way it is @ the bank I work at
I agree. The mainstream media is trying to mold opinions by panicing people. Most people will not even notice the shutdown. But the media will make sure you panic before it happens. I have 2 sons who are active duty and they WILL MAKE IT somehow – our landlords and mortgage holders are understanding of the situation as we have already contacted them to warn them what may happen. We just have to stop the insane spending that has gone on.
I am one of the 1% I guess. Not only that, but I manage a grant that federally funds hundred of State Employees so they are part of the 1% as well. Not to mention, the delays in repaying our vouchers (or not paying them at all) to Federal government means that our agency is strapped for cash and may not make payroll since they front the money we spend. I guess that is a couple thousand people that are also in teh 1% then. Do you have any idea how many state programs rely on Federal funds and how many people are affected by each and every one of those programs?
You might be right, since 1% of 311 million Americans is 3.11 million people that will be affected. Not a problem for me or you, but for over 3 million people, it will be a problem.The government is stupid, it's two parties fighting against each other simply because they are another political party. They work against each other and try and win, instead of getting together to just do common sense, basic stuff to better the country. Both parties suck.